No Fighting in the War Room or Dr. Strangelove and the Nuclear Threat
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2014
- Featurette about the making and historical context of Stanley Kubrick's "Dr. Strangelove", the 1964 classic Cold War satire film.
NOTE: a scene was removed from this featurette, of General Ripper's speech, at around 10:33, to avoid copyright infringement. Transcription below.
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[General Ripper]
Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war?
[Captain Mandrake]
No, I don't think I do, sir.
[General Ripper]
He said war was too important to be left to the generals.
When he said that 50 years ago, he might have been right.
But today, war is too important to be left to politicians.
They have neither the time, the training nor the inclination for strategic thought.
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
[end scene] 
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Well, movie-wise, Peter Sellers is (I think) the acknowledged superstar of Dr S. But I feel like pointing out how amazingly hilarious George C Scott was. Perfect comic timing, of course, and no doubt realized by the amazing directorial skills of Stanley Kubrick.
Too conveniently point out monogamous would be a casualty... "We must NOT have a MINE SHAFT GAP!" ... had me rolling!!
Scott was severely miffed at Kubrick using what he had been told were only improvised 'practice takes.'
Sort of it was realized by Kubrick, but he just let George c Scott riff and a lot of what you see is him going way over the top and trying whatever they think might work. As much of a control freak as Stanley Kubrick was as a director, this was one of the films where he really let his actors explore.
Yeah George c chomping on his cigar!
I was told that Slim Pickens (Major Kong) was a rodeo clown in his younger years. So that "yahoo!" riding on the bomb came quite naturally to him!
ruclips.net/video/1iHlXYZD6hU/видео.html Peter Sellers refused the part
Slim Pickens was a legit cowboy as being a rodeo clown requires knowing the thinking and moves of rodeo livestock well enough to distract them away from a fallen rider, putting themselves in the greatest risk of harm instead of the rider. He showed up for Blazing Saddles with his own horse and camped out at the set while other actors and crew stayed in regular accommodations. He was a great actor who appeared in many classics, including the original Ocean's Eleven with the Rat Pack.
@@ricfax nice
He was a real cowboy and a long time western actor.
My Dad was a career nuclear submariner. He was an FBM (Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarine), executive officer and a commander. All through the 1960's and early 1970's. It was, and is a very serious mission to be on those patrols. This was the main arm of the Nuclear Triad that included airborne bombers, land based missile silos and the Navyl's submarine force. Although SAC (Strategic Air Command) is long gone, the submarine arm of the Triad is still actively involved in nuclear deterrence. Great movie with a poignant message. Mr. Kubrick at his finest.
--The Strategic Command . . . isn't gone, however.
The bombers and missiles are still there. Granted shadows of their former selves. But the Minuteman missiles are still on 24 hour Alerts
@@amkrause2004 As they should be. Or you wanna roll over? Does not really matter if you get kiilled by a bullet or nuke, you're still dead, all the same. And rolling over is not security either, because people you roll over to, they are not really stable or predictable kind, they are criminals, essentially. Biggest delusion of all, is to take security for granted, in any shape or form. You could get killed 5K years ago, you can still get killed now. So can the human race.
As a kid living in Colorado Springs, with Norad just a few miles away, we practiced duck and cover at Cheyenne Elementary. Norad was a primary Command and Control target for the Soviets, who will have bombed it multiple times . . . . but we had nothing to worry about, since we could hide under our desks. HA!
Yeah it was a blessing in disguise though because if there was an attack you would have been vaporized instantly and suffered not at all
An interjection from a kid who was born mid-year, 1960, with a ‘similar’ take on things from my 3rd grade elementary school, Miami, about 1965 (why it was not earlier, I’ll only put down to memory, and/or lack thereof). We were instructed to ‘duck & cover’ ‘under’ our paltry, standard, metal and wood desks, but not for a nuclear attack, as that was never mentioned, at all, but rather, as a ‘protection’ against hurricanes! I kid you not. And, Hurricane Betsy, with wind gusts at an estimated peak of 160 mph, was damned-close to experiencing something like a ‘pretend,’ ie, Fairy Tale, nuclear attack, especially given the destruction that would be likely in, and around, South Florida. I’ll suppose this d&c ‘oddity’ was because Miami was a principle ‘target,’ for both nukes, and, hurricanes.
@@thorn262 my mom was born in 51 and she has very similar stories about the nuclear attack duck and cover tactics in her elementary school. Hilarious
I was at forbs AFB not only a bomber base it was ringed with ten ICBMs dad said I would see his rocket fly and two minutes later i could expect to be turned into a gaseous state of matter
The "hide under your desk" thing was probably more to protect you from shards of glass from shattered windows from the blast than the "device" itself.
Jack D Ripper as a name for a murderous madman. Nice.
This was the single greatest line of the entire movie.
Watching this in 2022, it looks pretty actual to me. Same plot, nations and weapons, but with different main characters.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity.” - Albert Einstein
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"- Bullet Tooth Tony
Agreed.
".....And Im not sure about the first one." is the rest of that quote. Einstein also stated, "I know not with what weapons world war III will be fought with, but world war IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
Also, if you think the people we entrust to physically interact with our nuclear devices and delivery systems could qualify as 'stupid' you have been drinking FAR to much of the koolade..... Get out of the scaremongering echo chamber, man.
Did a nuclear war happen in 2022 that I am unaware of?
TRUE CLASSIC.ONE OF MY ALL-TIME FAVORITES SINCE CHILDHOOD---
yea spike lee like you were old enough to remember those times!
Macnamera was one of the few people ever to get that close to power and then talk about it honestly.
Except he's a liar. He is a coward and a drooling psychopath and he is self-consciously lying about the strategic thinking and the W Berlin story.
I think it’s amazing that they got Robert S. McNamara to be in this documentary. Stranger than fiction: what does the “S” in Robert S. McNamara’s middle name stand for? Look it up. Look it up! Coincidence?
How Strange :)
@@chriper77 thanks for saving me a Google search
@@geofreycrow9663 haha, no worries. For the record, I had to google it
"Fog of War" is the actual documentary from which the McNamara interview occurred.
Deterance made perfect sense - even Dr Who agreed 👍 with the war of Daleks and other robots on a computer standoff.
It is indeed horribly sobering that such a thing needs to exist. But I have one question for any too far to the left pie in the sky doe eyed philosophizers out there that think they can pontificate on instant disarmament..... Why do the police carry guns/truncheons? Its really a simple question. And when they can answer it honestly without their echo chamber regurgitant, then maybe, just maybe, they'll have the mental capacity to understand MAD. Because its not 'if you launch we launch.' Its much, MUCH, darker. MAD implies 'if anyone launches, everyone launches. At everything.' There will be no world left to rule. There will be no one left to rule it. Everything you hold dear, anywhere, will melt in nuclear fire. So, as the Doctor said, before we light the fireworks hows about we all grow the fuck up, gather around the table, and "do what we were all going to do from the beginning, SIT. DOWN. AND. TALK."
Regulation and rules will not prevent shitty behavior. Humanity needs an evolution of morals. No matter your creed or faith, do not kill, do not rape, do not steal are codes of conduct we can all agree with. The moment we all agree to simply stop being dicks to each other, our species will be headed towards a much brighter future. One not illuminated by a mushroom cloud......
Funny how McNamara, JFK, RFK and the other civilians during the cuban missile crisis never mentioned their fears about being at nuclear midnight to anybody in the military. That, according to Gen.Maxwell Taylor. This whole thing about staring into the abyss was PR.
Agreed. Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf wrote about how early in his career there was training and doctrines for operating in "the nuclear battlefield" that he participated in as a young officer. It was apparently before we realized troops wouldn't survive long enough to win a war with repeated doses of extreme radiation.
I for one am happy that they cut the pie fight at the end, it just wouldn't have been the movie it became with it.
Much respect.
McNamara: "What President would ever have acted in a way that yielded that result?" We have one now …
biden?
@@glowiever He's referring to Trump. Too much time wasted watching MSNBC and CNN. Now we have pregnant man emojis. WTF
Trump started a nuclear war? Must have missed that one somehow.
I suspect climbing under our desks in school in the early sixties waiting to die had something of a psychological effect on all of us at the time. Oh well, in the late sixties we smoked some weed, dropped some acid, and got over it.
Yeah it was about 10 years ago that I realized how weird down in the basement it was and how it altered my life I'm 64 and grew up hiding under the desk at school the town fallout shelter was at my school also I remember they had tons of supplies down in the basement
I don't blame my addiction on anything else but me but when you think you're about to die it's easier to just got high and say f*** it
And we're still paying for it! You had all those environmental ideas and now businesspeople have stripped it all away and then some!
I would contend being raised in that atmosphere of having a dire and immediate enemy led many from the generation to now believing in an evil, all-managing, multinational democratic super cabal that the nation must be defended against
Heck the rise of 'the communists' is still an alarm bell rang by many news outlets
2000 above ground tests. 10 nuclear submarines with warheads sunk. Lost hydrogen bombs. Chernobyl. Fukajima. 3-mile island. Superfund sites. Decaying Russian nuclear subs at their piers. Marshall Islanders downwind. Cities vaporized. Cancer rates. If I missed anything, sorry.
Yes, you missed a few things. But those that you did highlight were enough.
Nuclear technology is the worse thing to ever happen to our planet.
Your statement misses.
You missed the concept of humor.
I grew up with duck and cover. Now we have Huddle in Place. Go on lockdown....
Good video.
I played next to Anthony Munoz and he was the best ever. Before each game he would eat a big plate of refried beans and then shit on himself. His steaming logs would keep the defenders away and made him slippery.
Is the McNamara footage presented from "The Fog of War" I've seen it but it's been a long time ago.
Don't forget to say your prayers.
And sacrifice a goat to Baal.
I grew up on Air Force bases, went to DOD schools in that era. We didn't drill! Why? I've always wondered.
They knew better.
@@JK360noscope Because an Air Force Base or a DoD installation is, in a nuke fight, 100% likely to be directly hit. Drilling about duck and cover would have been a waste of time. Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD) would have a hard time standing up to a 500 kt ground burst, much less a bunker under the barracks.
We did at McGuire AFB in 1962-64
You got McNamara in a room? You need to water board that dude and find out what happened to Kennedy
Well done! Thank you. (Why remove Ripper'speech but allow other extracts from the film?)So.rry about Roger Ebert's cancer.
The weapon just changed into an invisible bioweapon ,just as scary with zero infrastructure damage.
And Dr. Strangelove is Dr. Fauci.
@@brucknerian9664 "Imagine a weapon that could kill an entire population and leave its wealth intact." -Someone
I wonder if the "Custard Pie Fight" footage exists anywhere I would love to see it. -and Ebert is right, I think it does not belong in the movie.
If I recall, it does but it hasn't been shown since 1999 at a film festival
There are stills on the Internet.
God could Woodward be a bigger dork?
our longest war.
Always/never
It makes me sad that JFK never got to see this
Thanks to JFK and a few others, WE got to see this classic !!!
Like the main character from a clockwork orange,the neocons should have their eyes wired open,and forced to watch Dr Strangelove ad nauseam.
I love this movie in my top 10 .....I wish there were moviesn like this,,,,,pre david Lynch perhaps better
Fighting in the war room was tantamount to fighting in church. Desecration of hallowed ground?
I think you kinda missed the wordplay in that line.
Lots of footage here was pulled - without attribution, I think - from THE ATOMIC CAFE.
And here's Spike Lee to throw nothing into the discussion but insults directed at a former president and his racist undertones. That really added something to the video.
Spike pulled his weight. Funny you choose the only black person in the video to criticize. A total coincidence, I'm sure.
John Lawson Lee was the only one to direct an insult to a specific person...Bush. Funny, the only person talking about race is a racist who sticks up for a loser like Lee.
We can take em sir!
Our corpses are still alive.
ANY 'credibility' this may have had explodes @ 24:37
Really? So you think our adventures in Iraq were justified and successful?
What a knee-jerk comment. This was made in 2004
Why is spike lee , on this video ?
@documentarydetectiveiii5217 True, indoctrination.
Right this has nothing to do with race. Spike is just a race baiting brainwashed leftist
A throwaway line that was all right for a passing laugh, and it didn't deserve to be left out of the movie, but Woodward loves it so much that he pointlessly has to explicate it as though anyone could be so dull as not to see it. Somehow one can tell from the way he relates this that his adolescence seems like yesterday to him. As always he is instantly tedious and annoying.
I don't understand. You seem irritated, possibly by Woodwards book on Trump.
@@stephenmolohosky1198 Was that supposed to be 'irritated'? If so, no. Are you?
It is your statement. You serm to not like Woodward.
@@stephenmolohosky1198 He made a book about Trump? Who cares?
@@LordVader1094 oh look the armchair educated folks are arguing.....again....(rolls eyes)
What was the name of the movie based onnthe same novel that Kubrick sued in order to get Dr S. out before? Failsafe? Dr. S. without the laughs...
And where are you in the movie Spike?
Robert McManamara wasn't in the movie either. Nor was Roger Ebert? But I won't hold your idiotic trolling against you. A moron can't help but spout crap.
@@jamesmason4855 Yes, the moronic brain dead liberal remarks from spike lee is PROOF that the arrogant, ignorant and GOD-less leftists have absolutely lost their minds and are completely INSANE!! liberals should be driven out of all public life and have NO say in governmental affairs!
@@jephrokimbo9050 partisan nutjob.
@@guysmiley8567 Godless liberal facist communist full of hate, vinegar, immorality and completely void of all ethical enlightenment. you have my PITY!
just a movie....
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2 Timothy 4:1-5 states "You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. People will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control. They will be cruel and hate what is good. They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that!"
Nuclear combat toe to toe with the Ruskis
Love that line! I quote this movie all the time and very, vary rarely does anyone catch the references
Nuc-u-ler. It's pronounced Nuc-u-ler. -Homer S.
Wing Attack Plan R
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I'm just wondering what is the current US policy of useage nuclear weapon agains "soviet union"... I'm affraid that US won't defend Europe for any cost, especially with the help of nuclear weapons.
US policy today is suppose to protect NATO countries by treaty. But we and our leaders are so messed up , I don’t think we will risk even one American life to save Europe. You are on your own. UK and France have nuclear capabilities so it’s up to them.
hiding under the desk was always intended to instill fear in the children so that they would grow up to support huge military budgets and the military industrial complex.
Spike Lee is a tool 😠
Well I know understand that we the baby bummer's of the late 50's and early 60's were in more denger of been vaporized instantly than today ( we still are )... know I will said jajaja...Yes Duck and cover ( something we were obligated to practice in school )...the only way that you Will be save was 50' in a onther ground bunker and no radiation get to you...( Vaporized will be better ) ...but we all sorvive the 50's ,60's and draft of the 70's what a Loko's time we live....we hope that the Generation's X, Milenium and Z learn and don't do are mistakes 😟...well now is are time to party and travel whit are retament $$$.. before some one take us back to the Scarry 50's and 60's and get vaporized instantly
No, the threat is greater today.
But don’t lose any sleep over it.
@@politicalpartyagnostic268 yes we don't lose are time thinking on this most of the baby bummer's are over 60 and we know that we may not live over 80 or 90 and whit some good health maybe 100....we learn to take one day at the time and make the best of it.....
oh Robert you big liar!
the Soviets never threatened to occupy West Berlin. what they asked was for ALL (including Soviet) troops withdraw from Berlin. what was so wrong about that?
what funny is that the same thing is happenning today
no more than ten..twenty million killed TOPS! err depending on the breaks!
Look at what’s happening in Ukraine today
You had me interested until that scammer Woodward.
And that idiot racist Lee
Although this piece is from 9 years ago, Spike's sanctimonious, typically liberal comments turn out incredibly prophetic when related to the current administration. Who are the war mongers today Spike, who are the killers that seem to care nothing for the life of others, but their own? Get a clue dude, it is not a political condition or affiliation, it is a human condition and has been true as long as man has walked this earth. Now we just see the powers that be perfecting it from the half-hearted efforts of the past.
Kids these days are all stressed and whiny about climate change, which may effect their children decades from now. They don't know what stress is. Their (grand)parents lived with the possibility that they could be vaporized tomorrow. To this they say, "OK, Boomer." To them I say let's force you onto a bus, subject you to 6 weeks of intense physical training, then we'll fly you halfway around the world, put a machine gun in your hands, and tell you to kill those guys before they kill you. That's stress, and there was no "safe space."
And here we are again in 2022 with our current president sabre-rattling about a nuclear response in Ukr@ine. 😖
The addition of Spike Lee adds nothing, even detracts from the featurette. Lee is a racist.
Somebody around here is racist, but it's not Spike.
The movie should be shown to some of our warmongering congressmen, as well as to the moronic military "specialists" ie, generals, in the Pentagon. Sorry, I was assuming they are intelligent and capable of thinking.
Now, it's 2021. Nobody is intelligent. Or capable of thinking.
What makes you assume they haven't seen it? Politicians are a uniquely awful species, but they haven't started a nuclear war yet.
Spike Lee is a joke.
Spike Lee...gimme a break !! Who let him in on this??? All he needs is loose shoes and a warm place to shit....Jeez...!!
Sorry SPIKE, it's not Bush who we should have worried about, it's president Brandon and his merry band of military industrialists, who talked lightly abour the Ukranians wagíng nuclear war against the Russians that is the problem, as well as people like YOU (and all your smugness) who wouĺd JUSTIFY and DEFEND such an action, simply because it was the Democrats' idea.
The more I see about nuclear weapons the more I understand about how fake they are, this movie is amazing, but is propaganda fear mongering...
List of close calls: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls
And there were more, much more, if you count for every single false "missile start", you come into the thousands. Imagine the good things you could've done with that money, work, ingenuity - this could've been a different world, wouldn't it not been for the old stone heads full of greed. And that's what they will say about our time, too, in the furture, and so on. Change it, little by little, care for your neighbors, try to avoid the worst products, be a little less cynical, help each other, don't fall for the hate-propaganda, trust your own human sense - just for all who didn't get the message. And care for your bodily fluids.