Have I Found The Ultimate Chisel?
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Can't believe this set is so inexpensive! Very high quality from what I can tell. Will definitely be looking into these chisels for myself!
Good video. I like that Irwin is making an affordable set of chisels. Thanks for sharing.
Agreed. Great Job!
Yeah these Irwin Chisels really surprised me too, but it's nice to know there's something out there for the budget minded individual!
I can't agree more. It seems there is an affordable option to introduce my son and I to woodworking.
S. M. Sparks Irwin makes very good products now
I purchased an 8 pcs set from houbor freight. Paid $10. They came with plastic handles. I am working on a handle on a lathe to replace the plastic ones. I want to learn more about hand tools. These are very useful. Thanks again.
Robert Wilson. Learn to sharpen them to perfection, so sharp you can shave with them. You can get them much much sharper than when you buy them. This is the absolute most important feature of any chisel. I'd much rather have a properly sharpened $2 chisel than an improperly sharpened $100 chisel.
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Hazard Freight
@@davidmarzolino7159 well, that goes for pretty much anything with a cutting edge lol
Cody,
The direct comparison between the Stanley and the Irwin chisels is exactly what I like to see as a buyer. I think these kinds of videos are so valuable, especially to young guys like me who are still assembling our tool sets/shop are want to purchase properly so we don't waste our money. Thanks for sharing as always,
Brad
I was given a set of these a couple of years back and immediately moved and haven't unpacked them yet... Finally getting the shop together and looking forward to breaking them out!
Irwin, who'd of thunk!! I'll have to check them out at Lowe's.
It's amazing how the price jumps when you make a recommendation. Classic supply and demand.
Buying cheap tools is always a gamble. This video series is much appreciated for a guy on a budget like myself.
You are right. The box a company uses adds so much to their product. Especially tools.
The original Marples with the shatterproof handles are far superior to the Stanley chisels. They also came with a no quibble lifetime warrenty.
You can get the shatterproof Marples blunt second hand for peanuts and just re sharpen good as new and like the old Stanley plane they last for ever the in the UK the old Sheffield steel ones are fantastic. The ones I have must be fifty plus years old.
@@philipnorthfield Have to agree. My Marples are all from Sheffield, England. MUCH more expensive as new old stock because they're out of production but they're Sheffield steel.
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Impressed by the quality I didn't think a big box store chisel could ever touch the sweethearts but I was wrong. Looking forward to the next video
I'm so glad you introduced the stone into the kit. I've been looking for a good all purpose stone lately and that one may just do the trick.
So I have not even seen the video and I yelled at my wife THE VIDEO IS UP THE VIDEO IS UP lol. She was like ok hun ok lol. I think I am bit over board lol.. Back to the video..
yankey4 I didn't yell it to my wife, but I definitely screamed it in my head, lol
I am about the same. Wife is not impressed.
yankey4 - The new phone books are here! The new phone books are here!
Haha this was me to my fiance, he was not too impressed I was clapping while it was starting because I was excited the series was continuing haha
Marple's were recognised as the best chisels in the world. It is a great pity that the name was sold to Irwin (or was it Record). Another great name and icon of quality lost to the mass produced second rate status.
The Irwin chisels are pretty decent tools to be fair, I use them daily. I also use my proper Marples and Sorby chisels every day. The difference between my brand new 3/4" Irwin Marples and my 60+ year old 3/4" Marples and sons (Sheffield) is staggering! I will take old Sheffield metal all day!
@@tombaker86 and you can buy them blunt second hand for peanuts. Give them a sharpen and good as new. Last for ever.
@@philipnorthfield Keep it down mate! We don't want everyone knowing about that?! That's a bit of a hobby/obsession of mine.
I love the fact that the chisels are heavy, feels way better in the hands than the thinner lighter tools.
I just sharpened my first chisel last night on my Norton stone which just came in the mail because of your video. Scary sharp and what a difference to use. I never knew. Thanks so much.
Nice chisels, nice video. And you were right, I didn't like the plastic case. I have seen too many of those collapse over the years.
Saw neat video the other day. If you carefully fill the back of the tray with spray foam, and then trim it to sit flat in the box. Improves the durability greatly.
Joe Jarvis Can you reply the link to the foam filling video please
I can't post a link, but Rick Perry is the RUclipsr and foam filling tool trays is the title a youtube or google search should get you there.
The Poker. Use the chisels to make a proper wooden box.
I love how thorough your reviews are. I was wondering as I was watching though, how can you tell what the grit is on a stone that is unmarked and doesnt have it's original packaging to identify it? Is there a good way?
I know this is a pretty unsatisfying answer (especially for having waited 4 years for it) but I'd say it doesn't matter at all. You can judge how rough stones are relative to each other by touch and sight, start with a rougher stone just to see if it is removing material at the rate you want, and move up and down accordingly. Of course you won't have a scale, but after some experience with stones you'll be able to look at another one and associate it with a level of sharpness, besides the numbers are pretty arbitrary (to the user) anyway.
so basically, you can't tell, there is no standardisation, and no reference, and that doesn't matter.
I never really understood the value or use for a chisel until I watched your channel. Thanks for helping a novice find the light.
I like chisels. And I'm a big fan of "If it's not broken, don't fix it". It's not a really complicated tool. Doesn't need frills, bells and whistles.
thanks for the vid. have always been impressed with what irwin puts out. love my irwin stepper bits over the more expensive and less wear resistant greenlee stepper bits.
im in the market for a step bit, thanks for the tip
I just purchased the stone and oil!
Bobby Stanley what kind of oil is it? How can I find it?
Each day I have seen more and more positive feedbacks about Irwin's tools in general. Looks like this company really cares about a high quality products...
Thank you for the excellent review. I was in the market for a new set of jobbing chisels when I stumbled upon your review. I was looking at the Irwin Marples soft grip chisel set with four chisels for just 29 pounds Sterling.
Anyway, I'm in Scotland and I saw the chisels you reviewed - a set of six actually - for just 34 pounds. 6mm up to 32mm. Well, I did purchase a set of Knock off Narex chisels from Lidl for just £7 about four years ago, and, whilst they are a wee bit soft - like the Blue Stanleys - they take a good edge and are easy to sharpen onsite with sandpaper or a basic stone. I should add that I used them on a job where I had to chop out over 70 mahogany lock keeps and only had to hone them a couple of times.
Up until our recent difficulties, I travelled to Japan once a year, and have always brought back a few items including saws and chisels. The saws I love, but the chisels and planes are a pain to hone, so I don't use them as much as my horny old English Stanley planes and European Chisels.
Anyway, thank you for the insight into how they perform. Looked so good for the money - and I wouldn't be broken hearted if they were pinched on a job - that I went ahead and made the purchase.
Much obliged!
I wonder who makes the decisions for IRWIN and why the IRWIN chisels appear closer to the originals than the Stanleys. Doesn't Stanley own Irwin? Is IRWIN now the higher brand?
Black and decker owns Dewalt too
hartless now look what they charge for the tools the yellow must cost them a lot to make
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David Kirkpatrick get the chisels while they are still decent then.
Nothing like a little less competition..... After Irwin bought "Something" tool works in England there product quality went up big time. I guess with Stanley buying Irwin. Irwin will now be their premium brand. Snicker Snicker...
Wranglerstar, you have talk a lot about FSC can you do a video on that. Benefits of the program and how it has help you with your tree stand? I live in the northwest and thinking about joining and want to know how it has worked out for you. Thanks for all you do.
Can't wait to start woodworking in our new shop. Gonna refinish some old furniture, then build some new pieces.
dear mr&mrs wranglerstar, first off, i love all of your vids and they have helped me a lot with loads of things the last 1.5/2 years. i have gotten more into axes, thanks to you i know how to sharpen them better and keep them good. and i started doing a lot of stuff in my own shed, like make a new wood place, restore my old shed and make it into a woodshop/allround shop all thanks to you! the only problem is i dont have much good tools, i have a couple decent saws and some basic stuff but no good chisels, planes, stuff like that.
i am a 18 year old dude from the netherlands and i have learned so much from.your vids. and i would love to have such luck to win this toolbox! it would really complete my woodshop.
thanks again for all the great vids and how much you have helped with not only the things i already said, but also with getting through some rough times in my life. im really greatfull for that.
cheers, Wesley Krol
Nice set, but I'm not finding the $37 price tag you're talking about, the link you share, and a search of Amazon only turns up a $48 price. Still a decent tool, but pretty pricey and not in stock, ready to ship . . . which is a bit of a turn off. I did add them to my wish list . . .
Joe Holman -they sold out. Happens almost every time because of his large audience.
Or you can get 4 chisels without the mallet for $36.50 better deal in my opinion
they're 37 without the case. 48 with
The price was constant until yesterday. The store on Amazon raised the price after the uptick in traffic.
anything tends to go up with good review from a good youtuber it goes way better the adds you can anywere else
In spain the same kit is 5€
liar
Each and every one of your videos are absolutely a joy to watch
I love that you are adding a sharpening stone with the kit
OK. But this seems more about shopping than about chisels.
he's peddling his amazon affiliate links. lol.
Would a dead-blow hammer work as well on a chisel as a hardwood mallet?
I wonder if a rubber mallet would be easier on your wrists ?
A double faced hammer is the best. Yellow hard polymer face, not the black softer face
I use a lead shot filled dead blow anytime I hit on my chisels, knocking all day with a wooden mallet makes me grumpy
I thought the dead blow evened out the impact over time, rather than transferring more power into the work?
The most popular of all time is a about a foot of 2x4 doug fir with a handle cut into one end. Nothing gives better feel and control. For some reason it pisses people off when they can't spend more for something that works better. A chisel is all about sharpness, not the mallet.
You can’t beat a Good British Made tool!!! Not that I’m a Brit?!!!! Hehe 😂God Bless. My dad was a joiner and he’s lots of chisels. I told you before , I think??? When he died, I has a look at his tools. But when I bought my home, he gave me his bit and brace, that he used during his apprenticeship. He’s got some nice things. So I’m going to have to start some restorations. I can’t wait. 👍😉😄😜💕🙏
I really want to get into wood working and start making gifts for birthdays, Christmas ect, not only to hone my skill but also so my gifts hold more weight and meaning behind them, things that will last the years and have a story.
do you think the USA will try to invade his hair it has enough oil.
but why Possibly once his barber is assassinated at the request of the U.K. for opposing B.P.'s interests in his front scalp.
Decent joke, however, please explain to me how the US invades other countries for oil? I think Iraq is only making up for 5% of US oil imports. All of these left wing conspiracy theories that claim the US is a war mongering state that only invades countries for resources is simply false. We did not take oil from Iraq. We did not take oil from Afghanistan. So really you're just perpetuating horse manure. This is when you go and look up my claims only to realize I'm not lying and you've been lied to about the intentions of US foreign policy. You return and say "Dude it was only a joke...."
Maybe his is using Brylcreem.
www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/is-the-fight-over-a-gas-pipeline-fuelling-the-worlds-bloodiest-conflict/news-story/74efcba9554c10bd35e280b63a9afb74
lmao
the sweeds make the best
The Turnips are good too
Nobody on youtube is better at getting me to spend money haha. I know that's not your goal, but every time I watch you talk about a given tool, I just feel like I've got to have it and I find it on my doorstep a few days later haha!
I have struggled a little with using my cheap chisels. It is good to hear that a decent cheap set can work. I suspect I just need to rewatch one of your sharpening videos to try again.
This is a commercial guys.
Is this vid paid for by Irwin?
Even if it was they are still really nice chisels, i have a set and they keap a sharp edge that lasts
these chiseles are unbelievable from what I've seen. the wooden mallet is such a great plus. these great tools are becoming more and more affordable
This tool kit is going to help someone tremendously. Thanks for what you're doing
buck bros..... cheaper price tag and made in the USA I have both brands and the buck bros hold an edge longer IMO . for those wondering the buck bros. at the most expensive( 2" ) 15$ when I last checked. I say all this to say I love wranglerstar but don't understand if you are going to show "cheap" tools why not support a cheap American made products.
Ryan Diprima buck better than Irwin junk by far!
Irwin is much more available to most people. Also, chisels are more about tuning and sharpening rather than just getting the one that is the “best” or hardest. I heard these need the backs flattened. The best chisels are the ones that hold an edge reasonably which fitting well into your hands. Anyhow, my cheap Cambodian Tire chisels are absolutely excellent and great to use.
@@MintStiles the buck bros took me forever to flatten the backs of too. all chisels need some flattening of the back. but a veritas is a few quick, literally damn near single digit strokes. marples really aren't so bad, i'm not sure why anyone who hate on them. especially if you get an older style when they were made in england. even the newer ones aren't so bad though. it's like a decent entry level chisel. then you can look at some woodrivers and what not, sweethearts, and then obviously veritas. maybe a bancho in between. problem with a norton india is that you're not going to get the finish you want to get. most norton's are upwards of a DMT diamond set. And if y ou're going to be flattening buck or marples, lol spend the money on a diamond stone set.
DC Romo people hate on things because they can. Most modern tools may not be the quality of old, but they are sufficient. Tuning is more important than initial quality. While I am certainly not suggesting anyone buy cheap tools, but look anywhere on RUclips and you will see guys sharpening stamped knives into tomato shaving weapons :). There is a trade-off. But the elitists often have problems with just getting things started while the rest of us are already home having dinner.
So you think American products are better than British, Let me tell you Marples were the best chisels you could get at one time not so now that Irwin took over. Don't forget your history your carpentry knowledge comes from us British so show a bit of respect, oh and by the way we don't cut Rabbits we cut rebates .
This guy admits he is an amateur in woodworking yet he thinks his own judgment is good enough. Taking advice from a professional maybe had given another outcome. The club looks like a toy and most of us recognize this as a beginners’ kit to give children for Christmas. Has he instead found the ultimate sponsor?
Kadzjing, we have a winner :D ... he doesn't know the slightest bit about woodworking, let alone sharpening and still thinks of himself as the next Paul Sellers :D PS Those chissels just looked awfully dull after his "sharpening"
cfen matisse Paul uses 10 pounds chisels lol, nothing fancy as he says
Yep exactly, the big difference is Paul actually knows how to use and sharpen them ..... "lol" !
Could not agree with you guys more..an amateur who thinks he's a Pro ...it's all about making ..money..too bad..
i like how you guy's are professional enough to berate this guy for being amateur and completely miss the point that this kit is for the average person that doesn't want to spend more than 20$ on any given item because they're going to use thum a handful of times.
Tool kit is really coming together nicely. I have generally followed the adage that the most expensive tool to buy is a cheap one, soon needing replaced. But, as you are proving, there is a happy median between expensive and cheap tools. Perfectly suitable, quality tools that don't break the bank but still will get the job done and should give years of use. Thank you for making these videos Cody. Also for the info concerning trueing up a newly acquired tool, even brand new tools.
Very, impressed that you are humble enough to admit when you find something that's better than what you have previously purchased. Really enjoying this series.
my list grows after every video keep doing these this is really helping me understand the importance of good tools
Those chisels look like really good ones. They look like they are quality ones for a great price.
I like that little mallet...the perfect addition to those chisels.
Before doing any research I picked up one 3/4" Irwin chisels frankly because it was the cheapest one on the shelf. I didn't really appreciate the tool until I purchased another of a different junk garbage trash brand. The difference is unreal. Hats off to Irwin!
I've been very impressed with Irwin lately. I bought an Irwin wire stripper and wire cutter, and was quite impressed with the steel. They just work.
Just bought these today at WoodCraft. The backs needed ground down; I used 400 grit wet sanding and it took about 15-20 minutes to line them up. I’ll mirror them with 1000 and 6000 later tonight. I look forward to learning how to dovetail with them.
As someone who is just putting their toe in the wood workin pond. I have been curious in witch of the newer chisel sets where good. I see videos and it seems like everyone has the "my dad gave me" set or the "I got lucky at a flee market cause I know what I'm looking for" set. From someone who doesn't have ether and is self learning. This video series is awesome and a great help!
Being a 40 year carpenter I have three sets of chisels. The old miss used set that was and still is used for anything, from whacking knots to concrete. Then my better set which is a Stanley set for general wood working. Like framing, rough finish work. Then I have a wood handle chisel set I bought from a old German carpenter. These chisels would produce 5 grand if I wanted to sell them. But I use them for fine finish and furniture work.
Glad to see that Irwin tools are still such good quality. Hope this continues after they have been purchased by Stanley.
Irwin is seriously impressive for the price on all of their tools. My cheap chisels will not stay sharp, so time to try out these.
I couldn't agree more about the quality of the boxes that tools (especially) come in. Look at nice machinists tools and the quality of the packaging they use. I've seen Starrett boxes that have seen heavy use survive for 50 years or more protecting their valuable contents. It's the little details that separate the quality tools from those of lesser quality, and these chisels look to be a good value. I look forward to seeing part 2 and how they turn out.
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Wow,I never thought that you can get usable Chisels for this price! Very nice and thank you for sharing.
Glad to hear that Irwin still makes a good product. I may have to check them out.
These are the very same chisels I use. I bought the 4 pack of 1/4" to 1" without a mallet and paid $19.99. I have some vintage chisels and find these better. They are defiantly better then any chisel I have ever bought. Out of the package they were sharper then any chisel I already have. (that includes just after a fresh sharpening) They sharpen easy and I would highly recommend.
Literally transitioning into building guitars from scratch. No room for
power tools as I work out of my loft. Almost every item on this series
is on my list. Such a coincidence and, rest assured, I will put them
to honest, good work...pick me!
I have been watching for over a year now, btw I love the videos. I am a fourteen year old boy that likes woodworking, but I don't have enough money to buy a stable kit. This kit would definitely help me out to grow my skill level.
I like watching you work with chisels, thanks for sharing your favs.
I have used the sharpening technique that Mr W has shown and I must say that it works beautifully. To do it cheap and accurately just buy 1 marble tile and put a sheet of wet/dry sandpaper on it. Then use the strop as suggested.
I appreciate you showing how to do the sharpening. I have some Stanleys that need some attention! Thanks for making this.
I like the chisels with the mallet. One factual comment, Diesel is the same as fuel oil, not kerosene.
Looking forward to the next video!
I am so jealous. My stanley chisel set didnt come with a nice mallet like that. It did come with a nice leather wrap. Excited to see the finished common man toolbox! Great little tool kit for a entry level wood worker like myself.
Hey man. Oil is okay for manufactured sharpening stones. When using a natural "whet" sharpening stone, I highly recommend using ONLY saliva. If you use oil or even water on a natural sharpening stone you're going to eventually polish the surface of the stone. A sharpening stone with a polished surface can't sharpen anything. I use only saliva on natural sharpening stones because saliva is slightly acidic. That slight acidity keeps the surface of a natural sharpening stone "etched". You could also use white vinegar but that might corrode the surface or your tool unless you clean the tool immediately. Use saliva while sharpening and clean the natural stone with white vinegar afterwards. I hope this helps!! Brothers and Sisters...be well!!
The little smile in the picture for the video is so cute
Watched this video yesterday, and flattened the back of some chisels for the first time today. Just never occurred to me to do that. Sharpened two a little bit ago, and they'll both take hair off of my arm now. Can hardly wait to try them out! Thanks for the tip!
Cody, Irwin makes a 6 piece kit like this which includes a sharpening kit with stone, oil bottle, and angle adjuster for about $5 more. No mallet though.
Hi Wranglerstar, best video in the series so far! Thanks, keep them rocking!
Something about sharpening stones! So satisfying!
I have a set of these, some Stanley's and a number of antique chisels bought at flea markets, garage/estate sales and antique marts. Most clean up well and get lots of use. The Marple's are good for GP use although the mallet is way light for most use. I just use two handmade ones. What is missing are a couple of good mortising chisels. I have a 1/4" and 1/2" and they handle my mortising needs well. As far as sharpening, I chose a Trend 300/600 grit Diamond Credit Card. 300 seems to work super well on the HSS tools like chisels and lathe tools and the 600 for the carbide lathes tools, router bits and saw blades.
definitely some tips i did not know. very helpful
I have been a carpenter for 24 years and have always used a buck brother's 1 in. Chisel but I will definitely give those Irwin Chisels a look I wouldn't mind having a longer Chisel to reach deep
That is a nice set; it even comes with the mallet! Looks like a great deal.
I am glad to see there are chisels in this price range.
These chisels look great! Thanks for finding them!
Just ordered mine...could not be happier
I'm glad you were able to find a set with a mallet!
I find that I choose products based on the type and quality of the packaging. I agree that it gives the impression of a better thought out product
Wow order says out for over a month but after looking at several brands of chisels, this being my first real set, I'm in.
I bought a set just like that this weekend, glad I made the right choice
$110 is very reasonable for the tools you are putting in this kit. Looking forward to watching the remaining videos and seeing the completed kit.
I just picked up a very similar Irwin Marples set (without the mallet) and honestly I am quite pleased for the price. These aren't heirloom quality or anything but for the price they are made quite well, finished nice enough for a tool, and are ground very cleanly. They didn't come razor sharp out of the box but 2 minutes per chisel on my stone and they will push cut telephone paper. Tested them out today and they held an edge admirably long and were brought back to razor sharp with a couple strops.
I'm sure there are better quality chisels out there but for a guy just looking for a decently made, reliable set of chisels that doesn't want to drop $50 per chisel, these are a great option.
I like the marples wooden mallet...thank you for the detailed work!
Chisel set is AWESOME!!! The blessed one who wins this kit will be forever grateful. I know I would!!!
Love & Prayers
These are the videos I LOVE and MISS!! Still love the channel, Cody, and I understand you can't always do tool reviews or even don't want to, but these will always be my favorite types.
As much as you have talked up the Stanley's I'm surprised and delighted to see any bias has not stopped you from choosing these tools. Keep up the good work!
I bought an Irwin chisel years back and like it; however, I like the Stanley Sweetheart chisel even more. Thanks again for great videos.
Dear wranglerstar, I'm really enjoying this series and the chance to get this tool set when youre done. As a college student, money is tight but now that your making this series I know what to look for in tools. Thanks!
The more I watch this series, the more I want to build up this set and box. Can't wait to see the complete set and the box you build for it.
An affordable video is such a good idea. Perfect for me (a newbie)