Who Makes the Best Impact Driver? DIY vs Pro? Harbor Freight vs HART vs Ryobi vs Dewalt XR Atomic
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Which Impact is Better DIY vs Pro HART vs Ryobi vs Harbor Freight vs Dewalt?
Whether you are a home owner, DIY'er or and up and coming professional it might not matter What type of work? one of these impact tools featured today will probably be able to handle the job. If you need the most optimal performance than you might need to stick with a contractor-grade professional brand like Dewalt XR, Kobalt XTR or Milwaukee fuel. However, sometimes something as simple as using a larger 4.0ah battery might be all that you need.
All the impact drivers survived this showdown even with the Ryobi One+ HP compact showing a little smoke and grease on the impact driver housing and heating up well over 200 degrees F. After testing the impact drivers
I always recommend shopping around for the best price. There aren't affiliate links in this description and all the tools were purchased with my own money. This is not a sponsored video and all that I ask is that you hit that subscribe button and watch the video to the end.
Thanks, Chris aka"ClientGraphics"
Ryobi ONE+ HP Brushless Cordless Compact Impact driver PSBID01K
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Specs: Battery: 18V 1.5Ah Lithium-Ion Battery, RPM: 0-2,800/min, Torque: Up to 1,800 in/lbs, Chuck: 1/4" Hex, Tool Weight with included battery: 2.75 lbs.
HART 20-Volt Cordless Impact Driver Kit, (1) 1.5Ah Lithium-Ion Battery
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Specs: Battery: 20V 1.5Ah Lithium-Ion Battery, RPM: 0-2,500/min, Torque: Up to 1,700 in/lbs, Chuck: 1/4" Hex, Tool Weight with included battery: 3.38 lbs.
Harbor Freight Bauer 20v Lithium-Ion Cordless 1/4 In. Hex Compact Impact Driver Kit With 1.5 Ah Battery, Rapid Charger, And Bag
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Specs: Battery: 20V 1.5Ah Lithium-Ion Battery, RPM: 0-2,900/min, Torque: Up to 1,300 in/lbs, Chuck: 1/4" Hex, Tool Weight with included battery: 3.35 lbs.
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I appreciate the fairness of your tests man, I see so many channels crap on Bauer or other cheaper tools, or out them up against things they were never meant to compete with. I've had my bauer tools for well over a year now, they all still work great, the impact has been dropped scratched and beat up, and it still works great.
Thanks for the feed back it’s much appreciated. Using power tools and reviewing them by use and function more so than extremes to me is beneficial. I throw in a little extreme, but that’s just for fun👍🏻
lol, a WHOLE YEAR you say? That hardly addresses the issue with lower end cordless tools, that they can end up costing more per year of use because the total lifespan is shorter. That matters MUCH more to me than whether they win some speed race, since a pro interested in speed would be buying contractor grade tools anyway.
@@stinkycheese804 So what's your point? A pro wouldn't buy these tools, I never said they should, and I don't think ClientGraphics is suggesting they should. In fact he has a whole video about why he wouldn't buy them. I think they are decent value for money, easily on par or better quality than the basic Craftsman stuff, and as good as most of the basic Ryobi stuff. Which is all just fine for DIYers and weekend warriors like me.
On project farms video the bauer burned up against the pro homedepot brands and two of the lights quit working and I got a harbor freight angle grinder in 2008 and it stopped working in 2011 and mostly using it to sharpen lawnmower blades and I got a craftsman angle grinder after that and it still works today from 2011 and it takes up to 4 years or the amount of hours of use to tell if a tool is good or not
The only problem of getting a Hart tool is finding an employee who can find another employee then wait 5-15mins for them to unlock the case for a Hart tool.
That’s funny because it’s true. Oh this isn’t your department? Then why the F are you hanging out over here?
So true. I used to work at that crap hole. And so right you are.
Samething with target, some worthless employees, not all of them, I know they have a whole lot of work to do, but quite a bit of them are a-hols
Lmao so true🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sooo true! This made my day lol
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
I am a professional Carpenter and for kicks I bought the new hart impact I got it in a combo deal on sale with a drill and 2 batteries for 80 bucks. I was just going to have them around the shop but since of the good warranty I decided I would try them on jobs so I threw them in the truck and my good they surprisingly good. I decided to best the piss out of them and be as hard as a could on them just to see if they would last and they haven't missed a beat at all. I honestly bhate to admit it since I am a DeWalt and Milwaukee fan but honestly I can't lie for them being so cheap and with how they have preformed I wouldn't hesitate to buy them or all of them and throw them into the truck for main go to tools, and trust me that's not easy to say especially being a professional.
I hear every word you said and echo similar results. I got the drill and impact driver and 2 batteries for $94 and you really can’t touch that price else where. People seem to not want to take them or use them which can be a benefit since they will be less likely stolen. Hopefully they continue to work without issue. The longer they work the better value they offer.
Thank you for a great response, havent seen a lot of people who bought them and used them more than a day at a time
They’re essentially Ryobi/Ridgid tools.
I got the drill set for my job and they're pretty solid. Accidentally kicked my impact off a 20' scaffold and it cracked at the base where the battery goes. I finally had to retire the old girl after months of gluing it back together 😔
To be fair.. the Ryobi is a sub compact competing with full size impacts, and Ryobi wasn't even using a HP battery.
Yeah, it's not going to be a power king, it's meant for getting into tighter spaces. Ryobi just launched a larger HP Impact that would stack up against these better I'd wager.
@@hanyoukimura a little late watching this video but that was the same thing I noticed comparing the 18v ryobi compact to all the regular sized 20v impacts doesnt quite seem fair just seemed like he doesnt like ryobi and was just trying to crap on them the whole video dont normally comment on stuff but had to because I thought that was bs and not a fair test
lmao seriously. What's next, a comparison between a hammer drill and a rotobit?
I was thinking the same thing. And if it snapped the head off of the bolt, it could have hit a knot or other issue with the wood. Snapping the head off a bolt, usually isn't the fault of the impact driver.
Agreed the Ryobi used here is for a different purpose than the other impacts, specifically getting into spaces where they others simply can't. After all what good is it to be able to drive a 4 inch lag if you can't get your tool into position it do it - that's what this Ryobi is designed for.
With an upgraded battery. My Ryobi hasn't let down. Thanks for this video.
Just thought I should mention...the Ryobi HP is their newest, compact version impact. Though it's small and light, it does not have the power of their full sized brushless impact. Their full sized impact will crush the other two models you tested.
The full sized one is a beast. Other channels had it removing 400ft lbs!!!
Maybe but it’s weird because the ryobi has higher stats that the other impacts and the others outperforms it.
When it comes to Ryobi. Never ever pay anywhere near full price. Watch the sales. I about chocked when you said the Ryobi cost $129.99 with a battery. I literally caught a deal at Home Depot about 4 months ago for a set including both the HP compact impact driver and the HP compact drill. The set also included 2 1.5ah batteries, a charger and a bag. All for $92.99. which ended up being about $83 after coupon.
I use the hart brushless 2 amp hour. I love it man, I just use it for working on my jeeps and it won’t take off caliper bracket bolts crank bolts or rusted suspension bolts(Wisconsin salt🙄) but it does more than I thought it would and you can’t beat the price. I see it on sale a lot too
FWIW, I have been remodeling our house over the last couple of years. I have replaced every joist and sheet of osb in this entire house with a Hart impact driver(the brushed one), and it has yet to let me down, even with the little 1.5ah battery that comes in the kit. I also used the drill from the kit to run romex all over adding outlets and recessed led lights. The Hart tools are comparable to Ryobi it seems, maybe a little more powerful. I plan to get the 1/2" impact soon since I already have a few batteries. Also, I have used a kobalt impact wrench to change control arms on a rusty 1990 Toyota pickup, and it made quick work of the crusty torsion bars, which were too much for my air impact, so if you don't mind the price, kobalt is a great way to go
In about a month go to home cheapo and you'll be able to get milwaukee, dewalt, or makita brushless impact with a 2 or 3.0 battery & charger for $99. Go that route if all your looking for is a impact and will actually be using more than once in awhile.
Home Deport did have a deal on a Brushless Makita with a 3.0ah battery for $99. I almost purchased Makita but went Ryobi HP compact because it was new. I think going the bigger batter vs 1.5 and 2.0ah batteries are the way to go for impact. The more the batteries the better.
Thanks man, we just spoke on the den. Live stream. I appreciate the link for your video. I subscribed and liked. Thanks again
No problem I didn’t go in-depth on my video about the XR and Atomic but at least you can see the performance difference compared to other brands and make a decision on what’s best for your needs.
@@ClientGraphics it's simple yet in depth on the question everyone ask. I want an impact driver yet not sure which one so with that said what can they do? And your video nailed it I feel. Like I said before it's a great video, keep up the good work. I would like to add if it's possible add a timer on each one for start to finish. You can oblivious see it but study shows people like a number "total" with the product. Somthing to keep in mind and it would make a good chart for speed over all. Thanks again
Great video! One thing I noticed is the ryobi drove the drywall screw in the fastest. And that’s exactly what that impacts for. Light duty tight space type of work. I was impressed with the Bauer.
I was thinking I probably should have put a time clock on those before speeding them up. I can’t recall how fast the Ryobi was but it was one of the lighter tools. The spring on the anvil is also lighter on the Ryobi than the others and the impacts start sooner than the others. It might be why there is more vibrations in the handle than the others🤷♂️
ClientGraphics I’ll be honest. All my ryobis vibrate in the handle but when your using an impact all day everyday it really doesn’t bother me. Same happens with my Milwaukee’s. Even the surges. But ryobi definitely needs to drop the price on the sub compact impact and drill.
If it's light duty, does it really matter how fast it drives as long as it completes? I mean I don't want a tool to bog down but it always amazes me that people focus so much on the easy way out, the low hanging fruit of a race to see which drives a fastener faster. Having been in a trade that used drills and impact drivers all day, I was never really concerned about a few seconds on screws, rather it was always that I needed the tool to last all day, not break and then I have to take an hour off the job to go buy a new tool or bring redundant tools to cover that. Fortunately that ends up being the case anyway because their hammer drill is enough to do most screw tasks, then their impact wrench can do larger fasteners with a hex head. If something needs done fast and is high torque, don't even bother with less than the impact wrench, and a hex head is much less likely to strip out, and the socket lasts practically forever compared to a bit. Granted, not all jobs can use a hex head fastener, but then most jobs aren't high torque either.
Stinky Cheese that’s great buddy. I was talking about using these to install kitchen cabinets. Which I do a lot of. Problem is a lot of the standard size ryobis that I have don’t fit into all the right spaces I need them to go so I bought the Milwaukee 12v lineup. But that sucks because now I got all these tools I have to take so I like how ryobi came out with compact tools. If you expect to drive lags with these all day then your an idiot. So I was pointing out how well the impact did with a smaller fasteners. There’s a lot of other trades out there besides yours bud. So open up your thinking a bit.
Would you be able to compare the impact drivers with the brushless Ryobi. The compact small ryobi impact is a fair fight with the other impact drivers. Thanks for the great videos 👍
Bauer line wont be around in a few years...harbor freight changes product lines like i change my underware lol
Not really true. They keep adding stuff but they never seem to drop much. They're still selling a Drill Master cordless drill with a NiCd battery. And they've already announced THREE new Bauer branded miter saws (why in the world HF needs MORE miter saws is anyone's guess).
What they really suck at is their warranties and their branding strategies. Either there never should have been a Hercules brand or Earthquake brand or they should have made the batteries interchangeable with the Bauer stuff. And if they were going to go with this "Good/Better/Best" BS, then at least build out the product lines! They also don't have any 'cutting edge' tech in any of their stuff: No brushless tools and no balanced charging tech in their batteries or chargers.
They started off with only a handful of 20V tools about 4 years ago, now there are a lot more options as well as an additional battery. It's their most popular battery tool line so I don't see them slowing down any time soon. Also, they have taken original designs such as their drill/driver and updated it over the years. For general use, Bauer has been a great line.
@@craigphillips3154 They have what, 4, maybe 5 lines now? I do not think they can sustain all 5 long term. 3, "Maybe" as low end, midgrade, and overpriced midgrade. They should just let Drill Master die, about 15 years ago.
@@stinkycheese804 I agree.
By my count, they currently have:
80v Atlas
40v Atlas
40v Lynxx
20v Earthquake
12v Earthquake
20v Hercules
12v Hercules
20v Bauer
4v Bauer (non-removable)
18v Warrior
4v Warrior (non-removable)
18v Drill Master
4.8v Drill Master (non-removable)
12v Chicago Electric
9.6v Chicago Electric
Note that this does not count the various rechargeable lights they have with non-removable batteries and proprietary chargers that aren't cross-compatible with anything else.
Had they had an actual product plan, they would have had 1 high voltage platform for OPE, 1 20v shop tool platform, MAYBE 1 12v platform, and everything below 12v has a USB charging port. They could have at least commonized the batteries at each voltage.
Hart is made by TTI, the same company that makes Milwaukee, Ryobi, and Hoover.
Ok my issues with this is that your either using two different ppl, or your using for sure using multiple different ways of holding a drill and applying pressure, as your wrist is bend up high while your arm is straight as in pushing down , so it’s hard to tell if one or the other is getting the benefit of positioning and pressure???
Great video on the differences between the impact drivers for quality speed,effectiveness and the other tools in that makers lineup that run on the same battery platform
That 24v probably allows the Kobalt to spin and get certain jobs done faster but I wonder how long the components would hold up compared to 20v brushless at similar torque and drill resistance levels.
Damn you just saved me some money on that Ryobi that i was about to pick up tomorrow
Unless you need the compact size it’s really not worth the premium. While I do like the 1.5ah batteries with fuel gauge your money is better saved with the standard size tool or combo kit or other brand.
Does just fine in HVAC, I think. Compact is a must when strapping up old, existing ductwork when doing a retrofit.
Would’ve been a more fair test to just use the normal ryobi, cheaper, about the same size as the Bauer and hart
His bias against the Ryobi is pretty obvious to anyone who knows about power tools. I'm not a Ryobi fanboy, but this was not a fair test and he knows it. Even still, the Ryobi beat the Dewalt Atomic a few times and had enough power to snap a lag bolt.
@@Pro1er agreed. And the fact that he hasn't responded to your comment says a lot. He just seems to have something against Ryobi. The Ryobi beat the Dewalt in half of the tests. How bad can it be?
I use what my budget will allow me nowadays I used to use DeWalt nicad from 14.4v to 18 v I was using them exclusively up until 2009 when I was working as an installer and my boss provided me with a Makita set the all white 18 volt LX I was pretty impressed never had lithium ion but I still have my DeWalt tools pretty much every one of the common tools from them that you're find in Makita milwaukee bosch took me years to get them sadly those Makita tools died in 2014 I picked myself up a ridgid gen 4 x kit the impact driver died in 2018 got myself a gen 5 x brushes impact driver bare tool one 4.0 battery to start when my drill died I took one of my DeWalt out of retirement just until I was able to get a ridgid gen 5 x hammer drill I'm completely satisfied with the cat I've tried Ryobi my day actually used to have a p211 hammer drill burned out the motor serviced it's purpose I say as long as it's got the power to complete a job you buy what you want and what's your budget allows you it's no offense to any other RUclips content creators me being one myself I don't push high-end tools that people's throats I have a Black & Decker 6 amp drill in a hard case 13 years old still works I had to do a job it was a on the spot gig so I just grabbed a Black & Decker power drill a skill sander and circle saw I was able to get the job done ✅
Not going to lie that Bauer is a nice tool for the money. If you’re not using it and abusing it it’ll last awhile.
I have a uncle who uses it 10 hours a day 6 days a week in construction for the last 2 years and it's still kicking ass he's been very impressed
@@Mexicanmike87 hell yeah man people bash the hell out of These... for one most are tool snobs and have never used them, two some people probably use it to drive 10 inch lags through a 6x6 lol i really like Hercules and Bauer I have both and I probably won’t change.
@@darinmacfarland6605 it's funny cuz they'll criticize them as "cheap Chinese tools" but they love their expensive chinese milwaukees haha I bought the bauer impact after seeing how much my uncle loved it and I have bought a few items since such as the small inflator, the vacuum and the portable charger. Even with the increase in prices the bauer and hercules batteries are a steal
You mention that the Ryobi and hart brand is made by the same company. The question is. Is the battery interchangeable with both brand
No they are definitely not interchangeable.
my 14k twin axle trailer had paint on all the studs, i grabbed the Hart impact driver from the shop with a 4amp battery, put a 1/2 in socket adapter in it and pounded every stud down to 110 foot pounds! they torque spec to 120 and the torque wrench confirmed how consistent it was. btw, i know it is not for that... I'm just saying it did pretty damn good...
Have used my hart brushless drill and 1/4 impact drive and my half inch hart impact professionally for close to a year and no problem and had enough power for most things
I have a Bauer and it just stopped working sadly, had it for a year only, it turns on for 5 seconds then turns off and stops working for 15 seconds and that keeps happening, any help would be appreciate it
I have leaned (from my Grandfather), that applying Wax/Bar Soap on longer Screws help them Grip better, and keep "The Squeeks" down to a minimum!
I just had to use 6" Anchor Bolts to rebuild my fence (since my neighbors Dog runs into it ALOT) and had NO PROBLEM with my 18V Brushed RIGID IMPACT Driver!
Nice, the soap is a good trick it acts as a dry lubrication👍
You seem to have not been paying attention to him, the wax or soap is a lube to make driving them easier, but does nothing to make them grip better.
I've seen guys keep a toilet wax ring in a Cool Whip or Tupperware container for that exact purpose.
M12 and m18 is the for sure thing. I'm rarely disappointed with the red. Ryobi isn't all that bad for the $. Unless your building for a living ryobi will last a while.
Like m12 out of all 12volts m18 are too fragile for everyday use even my ryobi outlasted them not patient enough to wait for repairs though my guys tell me there warranties are good
It's hard to believe I watched this film for the first time almost a year later. I was impressed by the Kobalt. Do you have plans to for doing a comparo test on any updated versions of these impact drivers?
Ive always stuck with the DeWalt line. Their tools havent failed me. Everyone keeps telling me I should switch to Milwaukee but I cant see a reason to spend my money changing batteries, tools, and chargers over. Ill stick with whats worked for me.
I see it the same way. I can’t justify swapping brands when my brand has been using the same battery connectors for 20 years.
Use the HP battery for the ryobi not the standard 1.5Ahr as those will not provide the necessary Amps the tool needs.
great side by side review! thank you sir
Great video!👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Craig👍👍
You tested a Ryobi 18- volt against 20-volt competitors, plus you picked the Ryobi compact. The voltage matters more than the aH rating. aH is capacity. The voltage is doing the work. Anyhoo thanks for the video. I'm looking around at reviews in anticipation of some Black Friday deals :-) BTW, try throwing a Milwaukee model in the mix if you have one to test. They are nice IMHO.
I like the Rigid ones because of the warranty. Earlier this year I swapped out two batteries (By mail) and it as very easy. I didn't have to send my other ones back in, although I dropped them off at Home Depot anyway because they were pretty worn out. I think I paid $100 or $150 for a drill/impact driver set with 2 smaller batteries and a charger. Although the Hart did well, I don't see Walmart staying in the tool game very long. Too competitive, too much shelf space. They can make more profit with higher margin stuff. I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't want to mess around with trying to warranty out a tool that is no longer sold. I would probably test a craftsman as well since whether or not we like the country of origin of their tools, Lowe's is going to push them really hard. I think HF really needs to up their warranty on their upper end products in order to be taken seriously. Drill master, Chicago Electric (etc) - Sure 90 days. But when you start to say Bauer is equivalent to Milwaukee but still offer the measly 90 day warranty (And do the Makita/Hercules comparison as well) it's a bit silly. Make them $10 more and include a 2 year warranty for the Bauer and 3 year for the Hercules.
I still have my Ridgid and working batteries because of the LSA lifetime warranty👍
Damn that Kobalt is a beast
I totally agree, I was amazed at its performance.
I have many tools I do have to say for normal use small projects I pick the Bauer is just enough power to do the job and doesn't get you tired. How ever for tougher job I get my Dewalt milwaukee or Hercules.
Pretty much what I would have guessed for the top three, DeWalt XR and Kobalt XTR are basically tied with a slight advantage to Kobalt XTR, next in third the Bauer. I am surprised though the Hart regularly was beating the brushed regular DeWalt and Ryobi. I guess Hart is better quality then I assumed or regular brushed DeWalt and Ryobi are worse than I realized.
I bought a Bauer today. I know zero about the tools and brands. A local handyman in my city recommended it to me for the work I want to do and my skill set. 🤷🏽♀️ I saw that HD was selling a Ryobi for $39 and was going to change. Problem is that HD didn’t have in store pick up or regular shipping to my house - only special delivery by car for $35. What the what? That just seemed ridiculous for a tool on sale for $39. 🤦🏽♀️
Something people don’t realize: all these power tools are built by the same company. TTI makes all power tools and the companies design what they want with what motor and how much power that will fit their battery. I’m sure there’s only a handful of motors to choose from. There’s not going to be an insane amount of variation in them.
I like kobalt tools,I use them for home and shop use.
The compact Ryobi isn't the one to use for this kind of test compared to the others. They have more comparable impact drivers
I picked up the 3-speed p238 the other day so we’ll get that in the test also.
@@ClientGraphics use the HP battery as well for the ryobi
Imagine Milwaukee was in this test
I’m ngl, Bauer and hart were pretty impressive
that kobalt is showing out
I have the Ryobi, whenever I want more power, I put in a 4.0 battery instead of the 1.5 that was being tested. That 1.5 battery is not a power house for sure. I'm a bit too invested in the Ryobi ecosystem right now, but that may change now.
Like how good Bauer preformed
It performed well and works decently in most situations. I was pleasantly surprised.
I'm shocked that the Hart performed so well. Wally world may have something on their hands.
I personally thought the Ryobi HP compact would have done better than the HART. That’s really the reason I did this video because Ryobi didn’t and everything did better than it including the stuff that’s the cheapest 🤷♂️
Hart n ryobi are made by the same company
My wife got me a hart kit with a circ saw Sawzall impact driver drill and sander. Honestly I like it alot. Not as refined as my milwaukee impact guns or drill. I also have some btushed dewault I got in a tool trade. Which is nice too. Needless to say If I need to do something I got plenty of power tools 🤣🤣
It is curious to me that you choose to use the weaker Ryobi impact driver rather than their existing P238 which has more torque and 3 speeds. The one you tested instead is merely optimized towards smaller size. Home Depot does sell the P238 as a bare tool, which is how most people would buy it because the typical buyer of Ryobi does so because of the huge # of tools, so they already have batteries and charger, not wasting any money on mere 1.5Ah battery packs. I can't see why anyone would choose 1.5Ah packs today except for a weak LED flashlight.
I found that interesting as well. You need to test compact to compact and normal to normal and higher end to higher end. All these tools brands except for the Bauer have lower end and higher end models. It’s not exactly an apples to apples test.
The problem is that you are testing the compact ryobi vs the non compact competitors. Ryobi has several different 1/4" impacts. Compare the Ryobi P289 to the others.
That was not a very good overall showing from the Ryobi. I'm pretty surprised.
I would be interested to see how the new Skil cordless impacts (brushed or brushless) would have fared.
Great Video very informational. Thank you
I use ryobi after all my Milwaukee got stolen out of my tools box and my some of my co workers just cheaper to replace little slower than dewalt and Milwaukee but gets the job done for me
Good video. Thanks
Thanks for watching and commenting
If it snapped the bolt does that not mean it is putting a lot of torque down but maybe it hit a knot in the wood that the others did not??
No it wasn’t putting out enough torque to advance the lag in the wood. It hit a road block and beat the screw until it fatigues and twists. The Kobalt XTR would twist that fastener off in seconds but instead goes through the oak. I can twist the head of the lag fasteners if I try long enough. Kind of like this instagram.com/p/B_ao8ykDfkT/?igshid=ko9h7u21p4vd
@@ClientGraphics thanks for the reply.
Kobalt beats them all. I replaced my Dewalt with it 2 years ago and I’ve never looked back.
Me too except I dumped Makita, for serious stuff I have Kobalt XTR and for other stuff I have Bauer.
@Arthur Wilk disagree, the 24v kicks butt. What battery power has more torque, tell me I’ll buy it tomorrow.
its 24v and everything else is 20v
actually even the ryobi is 18v
Kobolt is garbage
I bought alot of kobalt tools and they are hit and miss. Went to dewalt. Only other brand I would use is Milwaukee.
I own the Hercules and the bauer one for home the other for work also have the ryobi for home i prefer the harbor freight ones good video
Hart, Ryobi, Ridgid and Milwaukee are all made by TTI. The hart line is just recolored last generation Ryobi with a different battery design. Project farm just did a comparison on drill drivers, Bauer is the only one That could not complete the test. It over heated and smoked. Ryobi has the biggest lineup and only rivalry is Dewalt and Milwaukee. For a diy guy I would go Ryobi. If I needed a tool for a one time job, I might consider hart or Bauer.
Would have liked to have seen how the more powerful Ryobi P238 would have stacked up vs their small, compact driver.
That’s exactly the model impact I started with 2 months ago. I am now a Ryobi supporter!
Can you test the brushless Hart impact vs similar impacts?
This is funny cause all 3 are made by TTI which is the main company which makes All 3, Ryobi , Hart, and Milwaukee!!
To be a totally honest I’m a truck Driver I have picked up all3 brands from the same warehouse.
TTI makes ridgid to
The Ryobi is overpriced for what it is for sure. I have a Ridgid(4ah and charger) and Milwaukee(2ah and charger) that I got for $99 each.
$99 seems like a better price for the Ryobi. I feel like the Ryobi HP compact impact should have launched with a more aggressive starting.
Not equivalent, the Ryobi HP series are all Brushless and it's a compact tool... Brushless tools always cost more than brushed and compact tools have different trade offs... It also has smart features that allow it better self regulate and protect itself from being pushed too hard. So will cut off if it starts to over strain or over heat. WorkshopAddict, for example, put it through tests that a regular brushless Ryobi drill got burnt out from but despite being pushed far harder than they would ever normally be used they all still worked at the end of the tests, to show what you're actually paying for with it, as it will be more reliable and longer lasting than their normal tools...
But Compact tools aren't going to push the max performance limits, being smaller and lighter has its advantages in tighter spaces, etc. but its a trade off on max performance limits and that has to be kept in mind when comparing to non-compact tools...
Ryobi has much cheaper brushed tools, if you don't need the longevity and size advantage of brushless and their non-compact Brushless tools are priced a little lower than the new HP series, if you find no advantage to the smarter technology and compact/lighter sizes... Though, it remains to be seen if all future HP releases will be compact only...
While all Ryobi 18v tools can use any battery on the platform from 1.5AH basic lithium on up to 9AH HP+lithium that use higher performance cells... Bauer and Hart still have limited battery options as well as fewer total number of tools in their line up... Though, part of Ryobi's large number are multiples of the same type of tool but with compatibility going back decades it's hard to beat in terms of options even if they are mainly entry level tools for homeowners and DIY'ers... Also, like the big name brand tools, you can often get a Ryobi on some sort of sale and/or kits that Bauer and Hart aren't pushing a lot yet...
Ryobi often has sales, apparently he paid full retail. It won't surprise me if they eventually add that model to one or more of their multi-tool kits and it ends up raising the kit price by only $40 or so, or bundle it in a deal like buy two batteries, get the tool free. They've previously offered more valuable tools than this impact driver in deals like that and to me it's a far more desirable option to get two higher capacity batteries than a mere 1.5Ah. Remember that it's not just how much work can be done but also how often it will need recharged, which bears directly against lifespan. I primarily get the Ryobi 4Ah two packs at HD for $80 (on sale every other week in-store) and usually don't need to recharge them before starting a job.
Wow, Bauer actually survived the test?
If you don’t drop or abuse the Bauer it actually works. I’ve probably had it for over 7 months and it hasn’t failed yet. I bought it back with coupon when it was $59
@@ClientGraphics $59, you can't go wrong for light DIY projects.
ClientGraphics ave had a Bauer that lasted him about 7 minutes😂😂😂
Thanks for testing the heart Brand.
No problem, hopefully it helps you decide what’s best for you.
Out of the 3 Ryobi is by far the best.
If you need the smallest Ryobi impact driver made today and you are in that battery platform then maybe the Ryobi compact impact driver is the best for you. It however doesn't perform the best head to head but does work in all but the extremest of conditions.
@@ClientGraphics I don't know why the 100 other comments haven't gotten through, but you both paired an HP tool with the non HP battery, and pitted a single compact tool against exclusively non-compact competitors, when Ryobi makes comparable non-compact impact drivers. Yes, my mountain bike isn't as good as a Harley Davidson on the highway. It's a mountain bike. This would be like pitting an office stapler vs an air-powered stapler. The test is apples to oranges from the start. The fact that you are either unaware of the flaws of your testing methodology, or worse, aware of but not acknowledging them due to bias, is a great reason for folks not to subscribe.
honestly, I'm just getting into Bauer
It does make sense for some people to get into the Harbor Freight Baur brand. It does usually meet many needs that people need to really understand. Less likely to get stolen too :)
@@ClientGraphics I totally agree with that. I had Porter Cable for a while, and I wanted to buy more tools in this battery platform, but the price on "tool only" is unjustified, especially when is not brushless (not that I need brushless).
To be honest I’m impressed by the Bauer and Hart
Come on. The ryobi is the only 18 volt, the rest are 20. And you put the 20v 5amp dewalt vs the 18v 1.5 amp ryobi. How is that fair?
They’re all 18v technically. Other companies use the “20v” lingo to avoid paying royalties to Milwaukee for their battery patent. Ryobi is owned by TTI (who also owns Milwaukee) so they go by the rules and just stick with the 18v. Also amps don’t have any effect on speed/torque, just how long the battery can last. This was a pretty fair comparison.
20v doesn't mean more powerful. It's just 2 volts. Milwaukees line is 18v and blows dewalts 20v line out the water when it comes to power
Amp hours and amps are not the same thing. An amp hour is a measure of battery capacity. Just because Dewalt has a higher capacity battery doesn't mean that it is more powerful. The battery will just last longer before needing a recharge. If you don't believe me then Google it.
So anyone know why he stopped making videos a year ago?
wouldnt mind seeing how hercules stacks to bauer and kobalt. guessing in between somewhere.
The compact version for ryobi is a little worse than their non compact hp plus you didnt use the hp batteries so it's kinda set behind because of those 2 things but all in all great review
My only complaint with the ryobi, is that they’re batteries are big and heavy asf and annoying because they get in the way.
Comparing tools in different categories
The Ryobi P238 with a 6AH HP battery would have torched all those other impacts, except the Kobalt maybe.
*laughs in Milwaukee*
Milwaukee is the shit😎
Some people might not want to buy Milwaukee
I can get a few of these for the cost of one Milwaukee. I’ll still get the job done all the same.
@@Chukijay get craftsman you won’t be disappointed
@@antonioacevedo634 You're right Milwaukee is shit they don't hold up
That kobalt hits hard
Hi Chris, excellent video ty so much, the Bauer is awesome for home repair and light auto repair, will not pull lugs! I have both the 1/4 and 3/8 Bauer, for professional use I’ll use the Milwaukee 1/2 electric impact, excellent quality video ty, regards, Bob,
Why do you have a box of little portable lights ?
You used to get a free item (Light) with purchase and use of coupon for free item at Harbor Freight. I bought many things there👍
The Bauer was really impressive considering the expectations. that Ryobi is a huge disappointment. The Atomic is a terrible tool line. The most impressive is the Kobalt XTR line of tools.
No reason for the Ryobi to be a disappointment unless you had unrealistic expectations for what it is... Compact tools aren't going to be the most powerful by a long shot, there's always trade offs for making it compact and lighter. While Ryobi is solidly a entry level brand for homeowners and DIY'ers... TTI, the company that actually owns Ryobi, Rigid, and Milwaukee basically gives them the Good > Better > Best options between those brands like HF does with it's line up and there's rarely reason for them to overlap or challenge each other...
While not every tool will emphasize the same features or benefits... Like the Ryobi HP tools are not only compact and lighter but they're also smarter than the normal Ryobi tools. So have built in regulation/protection that makes them more reliable and long lasting and not what you normally get with a Ryobi tool that can let you push it too hard and burn it out... Versus other tools they offer that can offer more performance...
Just like a 1/4 impact isn't going to give you the power of a 1" impact... There are always trade offs and optimization...
@@ZeoCyberG OK then cut the price in half, then people will not have unrealistic expectations.
@@alexe3688 That wouldn't stop unrealistic expectations, otherwise people wouldn't buy Amazon junk and be surprised it's junk. Besides, only way to cut the price in half is to make it junk and take away all of the improvements and go back to when they were more like Black & Decker... Only way to get people to stop having unrealistic expectations is to educate them on what's realistic!
Ok thing is I thought hart wasn't a good brand and thought I'd I wined them 10 years down the line will it be available still but I bought a Air inflator and vac and now thats my go to brand I was thinking ryobi but I just like the fit and finish
I just found your channel,
Can you do a comparison with the new ridgid sub compact drill and impact with the Ryobi hp ?
Including weigh etc.
Donc
How come you didn't get Makita
Like to see skil against them
It doesn't make sense to buy a power tool with a shitty warranty, I bought into Harbor Freights Earthquake XT line and they are great tools but the warranty sucks
If everyone were to buy solely on warranty wouldn’t you buy Ridgid and register to get the Lifetime Service Agreement since it’s the best? So do we pull the trigger on three brands and throw out the highest and lowest. It’s a tough call and a gamble some are willing to take and honestly I hope no one has to use the warranty for any brand.
I have all the versions of the Ryobi driver - the P237 is more accurate when going up against them others... other videos show Ryobi being more powerful than the HART, so this isn't an accurate test using Ryobi's weakest version. FYI
nothing like Snapon or Hilti
Nice testing! I’d also like to see how MasterForce (Menard’s) and Hercules in the lineup!
I have the regular brushed Ryobi and it’s been a a surprisingly good tool (especially since I bought it used with for like $20)!
I might consider getting the Hercules, but only because I have the 5.0 battery for the grinder and while the current model is on brushed. I will definitely need it before the brushless Hercules impact comes out. But I was already thinking all this just never said it out loud😉
What manufacturers use the same battery platform?
Dewalt, Mac Tools, and I believe the new Klein power tools also can use all the same batteries. Basically all Dewalt rebrands.
Sweetnessss
Awesomeness
Never see any milwaukee gen 3 on here dewalt but never no milwaukee gen 3
I feel like I have to search RUclips high an low for videos that feature the Kobalt brand such as yourself. I subscribed JUST because lol why do people sleep on Kobalt? I've always been accustomed to DeWalt and I own the dcd778 as well as the dcf887. I plan on getting Kobalts XTRs in the near future and using my DeWalts as backups. I feel like DeWalt is overrated an overpriced, not to mention the awful looking yellow. Based off the specs alone Kobalt is very much underrated. I was considering Ryobi but their battery system alone looks outdated, like the old DeWalts and they're not as strong as the Kobalts. The Kobalt XTR is equal to if not better than the DeWalt DCD996 especially for the prices of each.
I was talking to a tti rep yesterday. He said the new Ryobi compact drill and impact are basically rebranded m12 tools. They have the same motors.
So they're running an 18V battery with a 12V motor? I doubt that.
1.2 amp against 5 amp battery, what a joke of a test.
Is 18v compared to 20v a fair competition?
Yes it’s fair. 18v compared to 20v is very trivial in the bigger picture.
You'll rarely see a significant difference between 18v and 20v otherwise milwaukee wouldn't compete head to head with dewalts 20v line let alone their 60v max.
No one ever test the Hart Brushless Impact driver
I bought the 2 tool and 2 battery combo that was just under $100 so no brushless tools. The Brushless Hart Impact has a little more power at 2200 in.lbs. of torque and a little more speed at 3000 RPM. It should work better than the one I tested and is a premium price compared to some of the other brand offerings at big box stores.
It's kind of pointless to test ANY Hart tools because (so far) they're all pretty much older Ryobi models with cosmetic changes, both being made by TTI. Makes no sense to buy Hart when there are deals just as good to be had on Ryobi if you shop for them, and many more tools to choose from, and the backwards compatible batteries, and although I don't particularly like Ryobi lime green, it still beats a white tool by a long shot. White looks like crap after a few dirty jobs.
Put an HP battery on that Ryobi and you will see a WORLD of a difference
1. Milwaukee
2. Rigid
3. Kobalt XTR
4. Kobalt
5. Hercules
6. Bauer
in that order from most expensive to cheapest on bang for buck.
You don’t have an HP battery in the Ryobi.