6 Reasons To Grab Your Impact Driver First
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I always use impact drills first, as well. Easy bit change, smaller, better battery... versatility.
Aren't they great? I use mine almost every day and they're just ideal most of the time.
Do you use a hearing aid now?
Dewalts DCF601 12v screwdriver is one of my favorite tools. Has the size of a compact impact, a quick insert and an adjustable clutch. Great for many applications, especially wood work or delicate tightening
I also use my impact driver way more than my drill, like 4 out of 5 times.
But when I need to drill through masonry or use any non-twist bit I'll pick up the drill.
The impact driver seems to hammer way too much (and slower) with spade bits and auger bits while being slower than my drill. Having said so this time I picked my drill with anti kickback and it makes all the difference when dealing with large bits.
Also, please remember using hearing protection if using an impact tool for extended periods
I have a non-professional quality Impact Driver and it's amazing for the cost. I'd often wondered whether I could use it as a drill at times, and now I know. Thanks
Legit just got a drill attachment for my impact driver and its a match made in heaven. Havent looked back when it comes to drills. All the rotation with impact to help guide the drill bots through. Do make sure to get impact rated drill bits tho!!
Don't laugh but I have one and haven't used it (the drill attachment). I seem to have every bit I need already with a 1/4" hex so I haven't opened it yet. And good call on the impact rated bits - it matters!
Ive spent hundreds of hours with a dewalt impact drill in my hands and its always my go-to…. I have chewed through 1/2 steel and have used it for many delicate applications… a few tricks are needed for sure but it is my go-to
There’s a lot of “handymen” and young construction workers who just use the impact for everything. Plenty of delicate fasteners stripped or destroyed because “they knew what they were doing” drills have there place most ppl don’t understand how the settings on a drill work
Apart from the 12v DeWalt 1/4" Hex chuck driver drill mentioned in other comments, Makita makes both a 12v and an 18v 1/4" Hex chuck driver drill. I have the 12v and I have found it to be a lightweight drill with enough power for my needs.
I like both. Impact for slapping wooden structures together and tightening/loosening nuts; drills for everything else, including most screwing tasks. Proper use of a clutch saves so much time and minimises damage from over-tightening 👍
agreed
yep, as was said in the video..
I prefer impacts also, wear hearing protectionof course. I'm a dewalt guy so the drills are just as load as the impact anyway, so just use an impact
100 agree - for fastening tasks with any chance of over-tightening I would go for my drill . Impact drivers feel to me like a tool that CAN do alot, but there is usually a better tool for the job. Like working on cars an electric ratchet and a 3/8 impact wrench are more approriate tools. But thats 2 tools instead of one.
@@MarkTrades__ "instead of an impact I use an impact and a ratchet"
Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Feel like we're getting a milwaukee m12 surge breakdown lol. Love this video.
I have a house out of concrete and I build everything around garden and yard from wood. My trio consists of SDS hammer, drill for mostly predrilling and small impact wrench (dewalt’s 922) for screws and bolts/nuts. Love them all. Being engineer by profession and DIYist in my spare time I say it is not as much about what you NEED but what you like to make your job easier. Don’t sweat it.
I am grateful for your valuable insight.
I used my impact driver for 4 years for everything from building outdoor garden beds to mounting TV’s. I bought an attachment that allows you to use non 1/4 bits and I never needed a drill.
Until I needed to drill into concrete, and now I use my drill ALL the time. More control, but bulkier and not always better than an impact. Both are useful in their own ways.
Edit: I do mean a drill with a hammer function
I found that when screwing into pallet wood, my impact snapped off screw heads, and I had to switch to a drill, which was the right tool due to the hard wood.
LOVE my M12 Surge. But I normally use my M18 hammer drill for “most” drilling applications.
But I also don’t use my M12 to drive crazy-big lags (like some RUclipsrs love to push)
for those I’ll use an impact wrench with a socket adapter (or whichever head is on the fastener)
3:15 that 'cam out' is often bc ppl use wrong size or proper fitting bits with screw heads too
I use my impact driver for drilling pilot holes in wood. The higher RPM is great for drilling small holes. It’s also great for drilling thin Aluminium sheet.
I'm from EU and here for furniture assembly we use small 12V installation drill drivers. Smaller and way less noise. I get all the advantages of impacts but for such a simple task it is overkill to use them.
I got the Bosch 12V brushless installation kit. It is fantastic. But it is not quiet. Brushless drivers are noisier than brushed , but this Bosch is obnoxiously loud. I wish I had the brushed version as it's probably much much quieter.
@@GannDolph I too have that Bosch and I have other issues with it. 10mm Plastic drill chuck. When adjusting the clutch the flexiclick can be detached by mistake. That new sds attachement is awful. I was comparing noise level to impact so for me that brushless motor is not that bad plus the compactness won me over with that bosch.
@@gl0sek thanks for info on the sds accessory- i was considering buying that.
yes obviously different category of noise altogether compared to an impact, but the motor+geartrain on that little bosch screams too loud for me to use around the house at night. in those situations i turn to my big old ryobi brushed drills for silent working :)
These are totally underrated tools. I have a metabo unit and its smaller size, quick-change chuck, AND a clutch - gives the best of both worlds and the metabo unit was pretty inexpensive.
Most impact driver has shaking anvil, it makes the hole wider for drilling function... But the torque power is higher than impact drill... I prefer tonise the power tools according to the need of work... Thank you for sharing 👌🏼😊
My first own tools I bought after My dad died and without having any real own prior knowledge and after researching the internet for a while, where a sabre saw and an impact driver.
I could never figure out the clutch setting with normal drills and found "feeling" how much of a trigger press I need much more convenient.
The only problem I ran into at first was drilling harder materials like concrete or running into a random support beam in the wall, but after upgrading from 12v to 20v and getting carbide drill bits, that was a problem of the past.
For small tasks I got used to my Makita TD022DSE. It is an Impact but looks more as a screwdriver and has less weight.
i love that gdx 200, i cant believe how strong it is, so good
Great Demonstration
sometimes the drill has kickback but my flex drill has a kickback stopper but i like impact driver better. i got fluid driver too.
I purchased my first impact driver today probably don’t really need one but thought it’s time for me try one.
I suspect you'll make good use of it. I use mine a ton and, while it's not a replacement for a drill in all cases, it can be a downright handy tool.
Hi.... Excellent video as always and with all the details.
Thanks so much for watching, David! Have a great weekend!
I love to see you using the m12’s. I think that what I’m going to go with but I think that means I’ll end up having some m18’s which is the type of fragmentation I wanted to avoid.
I use m12 for home and automotive DIY use. I use it to drill into cinderblocks to wallmount things with tapcons. I have used my m12 with an auger attachment to make holes in root-bound dirt. It never shut down for overload protection or anything. The m12 drill & drivers are beats imo unless you are using them professionally and then you probably want the speed and capacity of m18. Hope that helps!
If you want to make sure you only have m12 OR m18, I would go with m18 and just get some compact batteries for when you want a smaller tool in your hand.
@@MarkTrades__ that does help! Thank you. I’ve really become smitten by the m12’s, though I’ve never actually used one. My concern is tools like shop vacs, or saws or other high power draw tools will be inadequate. I’m not a professional- only an aspirational DIYer and honestly would likely be fine with less expensive tools- but I also subscribe to buy once cry once. Haha.
@@chrisperrywv If you want to run shop vacs and high-draw tools like circular saws you will need large m18 batteries for a good experience. Some tools the M12 xc 6.0 batteries will help you get more intense tasks done. Reccomend you try to find a video that shows a tools performance with the smaller & larger form factor batteries for the m12 paltform. If you wanna save money I would go corded for shop vacs & saws, angle grinders, etc.
Torque test channel is another good resource for tool testing that can save you money. They have actually positively reviewed some really cheap amazon drills recently. Might be another good place to look
The 850 with power stack is VERY convenient.
Yeah I spend all day installing data cable and putting up security cameras, and today my Impact Driver broke while I was using a spade bit to chew through a top plate like I always have. No idea why it broke given it’s an M18. So I grabbed the drill and did it in half the time it was taking the driver. While there’s a strong push for impact drivers, drills definitely have their place. Drills for holes, Drivers for screw (I mean, it’s a screw driver really) 😅
Part of this was that the 1/4 hex on the spade bits suggest using an Impact Driver for making holes,. stick to a cordless drill and just lock the hex in place (or use a 1/4 hex adapter).
Like I needed to subscribe to another channel…. But now I have! Seems like a lot of great tips and insights.
Yes!!! Nils, you hit the nail on the head (well, it was a screw, but you know what I mean). Impacts are my go-to tool. Your guide is also the best way for DIYers, and experts, to know which tool is best. Great video.
Thanks, Mitchell. I appreciate you always watching.
Well done, well done, well done.
Helpful. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
1970's calling. Yeah the ease of putting a bit in an impact driver is so much easier than a standard drill chuck. But modern keyless chucks are _so_ much better than the old keyed chucks we used to have.
It all depends on the context in which you’d use one over the other. For instance in my job, you do t necessarily need an impact driver, but you definitely need a drill. I keep my impact on me so that way I can have essentially two tools for different tasks, rather than 1 tool for both tasks. It’s a nice to have. Plus, the sounds that impacts make are super cathartic and fun.
A drill combined with torx screws… unstoppable.
Those compacts drills or those that has detachable clutch are way better than impacts in a lot of ways.
Tapping, drilling, chamfering holes, can even put one of those carbide burrs into it.
The only legit use for impacts are masonry screws
Even for that i use a mid torque wrench…
Impact drivers are a waste of money
I love my m12 stuff. I use my full size less than 5% of the time.
That wasn't the surge that you weighed, but STILL AGREE WITH ALL OF YOUR POINTS
I have a milwaukee gen 4 impact driver and also a ridgid hammer drill. Both 18v. I love both and they both have their uses. But when it comes to power my experience is different. I have done side by sides of 9 inch lags into lvl vertically. The drill wins by a significant margin. Not sure what's in that 12v surge to beat the drill. I have also tried the 18v surge impact and it seriously lacks power even compared to the regular 18v gen 4. Anyway just my two cents.
Ok you really missed this, dewalt makes a 12v drill / clutch model DCF601F2. It uses the 1/4” collect. I also own the Milwaukee gen3 12v hammer drill and impact-truly fricken amazing
That's an awesome little tool! I haven't purchased one but I think I will. I still love the advantages of an impact but for a lot of applications, the DCF601F2 looks like it would be ideal. I have that same M12 drill/diver set by Milwaukee tool and they're just fantastic. Sounds like you have great taste in tools!
@@LRN2DIYthanks. My ex manager wanted us to buy HF tools but I’d refused which made all my tools the envy. And bought by me, so no borrows. After 38 yrs, yah learn to care for the tools. Finally not letting ppl break or forget they borrowed it, and ya that happen a few times.
@@Dirtyharry70585using poor quality tools to get work done is such a crappy thing to suffer through. We don't need the craziest tools ever, but getting some good quality tools that are reasonably priced and spec'ed makers such a difference!
I've never in my life ever used a drill for anything else then drilling. Impacts all the way.! I use the Bosch 12V. Enough power without blowing out your work. Now i have the 12 & 18V surge. 👍
I like how the hart tool was the one that was chosen to get cut open🤣👏🤣👏🤣👏🤣👏🤣👏
Excellent video Brother
Will! Thanks for watching, my friend!
Great video, but I have one question: what's the difference between an impact driver and an impact wrench? I noticed the two products on Hilti's website.
Typically the form of attaching tools. The impact wrenches have a 1/2” or 3/8” square that accepts sockets directly. Impact drivers have a 1/4” hex attachment. They both do the same thing though. The wrench is targeted at automotive mostly while the driver is more general purpose.
Wrench hits way harder, bigger hammer
The only screws I usually drive with the drill is drywall screws on drywall with the torque set to a medium setting.
F those "nasty" comments. You're right on every level. I LOVE my Flex impact driver, which can easily be controllable. (EU, electrician)
To add to this, You can go buy a keyless, adjustable chuck attachment for your impact driver, which makes a drill driver and hammer drill completely, 100% obsolete. I picked one up for my Milwaukee Fuel Impact, and I'll never need a drill driver again, and it was only like 25 bucks.
I’ve always preferred my drill over the driver
My favorite drill m 12 surge .
Mine too! It's the goat.
I love my impact drill, its the best investment toy, i mean tool, that I’ve made. Love love even without the 6 reasons😂❤
Haha - you're my kind of people. Love mine too.
Too many settings on a "complicated" drill/screwdriver?
So hey! Just grab a high torque impact driver with no settings & smash that No.6 screw into fragile chipboard!
What could possibly go wrong?
Some people clearly shouldn't be allowed near power tools or sharp implements.
Just get both in a combo kit. Its cheaper and you will need that drill one day so save yourself the money
I use posidriv screws, far far superior to phillips, and far less likely to cam out, they work well with an impact driver
Agreed
Your Web site, email contact, does not work, to is blank area? When to Web site yo look for the drill features g and print it out, but can't find it in search.
get a 90 angle extension for your drill
Comparing apples to oranges. Using tools improperly to produce cons when comparing tools that have different purposes. A hammer drill has a handle attachment for a reason. The hammer function works in a different way than an impact driver, making the ways to use these tools different. You don't use an impact driver to drill concrete. You don't use a hammer drill to drive lag bolts. You don't use an impact driver to screw cabinets together. You don't use an sds rotary hammer to screw drywall. Use the tool made for the work. A lot of times you need to drill the hole before you screw it, so you don't split the wood.
Faz + vídeos de parafusadeira de impacto
You might consider the following two facts:
First, there are two different types of torque: Hard and Soft. Hard means, you are driving the screw against an end stop. Soft means, you could drive the screw further into the material. The torque give by the manufacturers is almost always the Hard torque. But this applies only if you're fixing metal screws and doesn't tell you anything how the device operates while driving screws in wood.
Second, There are designated devices to drive screws without the impact, these are much lighter and even easier to operate.
Great info here. I was just looking up and studying hard vs soft torque as a result of reading your comment and I've got some more learning to do. Sounds like it could be tricky for the average consumer to interpret the applied power/torque of the drill or driver when only one metric is shared by manufacturers.
On the second point, could you point me in the right direction on this? I'd love to learn more.
@@LRN2DIY For example, the Bosch GSR 12V-35 HX or the Milwaukee M12 CD-0 which both offer high soft torque and are pretty compact and lightweight. Both also offer a torque adjustment, which makes total sense to use, else you'll rip the heads of screws off.
You also have to consider user error. You should not, for example, use an impact putting a screw in a predrilled hole.
I have a dewalt 12v impact (gift) and I’m working on a new woodworking project involving pocket holes. I’d really rather not buy a drill, is it really not possible for me to use it? All the conventional wisdom is that you shouldn’t use a driver to drill tasks but idk it seems like it would be fine lol
something like this :Bosch 18V-90 FC for me, beats everything. Extremely fast, flexibel and powerful
I own wrenches, drills, drivers, and a ton of other tools. I am an amateur dyier assembling ikea furniture and changing an oil on my cars. 99% of my tools are useless to me. But i buy them bcs i like them. The drivers are prolly the most useless tools for me. Try to assemble a cabinet in an apartment with a driver. I only use it for inaccessible screws. I am so passionate about tools that i keep buying them and i draw straws which tool im gonna use to do smth. But really, unless you are a pro, the best thing you will ever do with a driver is just trying to see if it gets tour wheels nuts out, and you will marvel at the beauty of the hex to 1/2 adapters.
Id like to see a impact beat a DCD999.
Also drills have first gear and clutch settings, havent touched my impact in 3 months
I have a DCD999 and can test that for sure but it's all about what you mean by "beat". If you mean drive a lag bolt, they will beat it. If you mean more torque, lighter, smaller footprint and safer, they'll beat it but in certain other areas, they can't touch it. It's a beast of a drill to be sure.
Always my M12 impact. Doesn’t wear me down.
Impact for the WIN
Yesssss.
anytime i'm driving a screw i reach for the impact driver first. i pretty much only use my drill for, well, drilling.
Same. I actually do a fair amount of drilling with the impact too but having both on hand is ideal.
Not being that guy but that bosch set looks brand new as with every other tool save for the m12's
You're not wrong. When you test as many tools as I do, they can't all get used a ton. I use my Milwaukees a lot and for years before that have used Ridgid. I'm also using my Flex tools on jobs a lot (used Flex and Milwaukee on personal jobs for hours yesterday) but the Bosch, amongst others, just isn't my go to drill or driver. I have over 30 drills and drivers, so too many to use on the regular but they're great for comparisons.
Fistful of steel....great RATM song
Amen!
Can impact driver use in drilling holes in hard concrete?
Unless you can find a Masonry Bit with a 1/4" hex, probably not. Need a roto hammer or a hammer drill for concrete.
Literally the only part of a drill thats handy is the adjustable chuck. Well you can purcase a keyless, adjustable chuck attachment for every major brand of impact driver now, so the drill driver/hammer drill has become completely obsolete in my personal opinion.
The only time I grab my drill is when I need to use drill bits that require a chuck. The impact driver is my baby.
great video..i appreciate it. any idea on which is better at driving in drywall screws without getting a drywall gun?.. lately i’m using a drill with a drywall dimpler..
The drywall dimpler is a must either way. I actually haven't tried driving drywall screws with an impact because my dimplers aren't 1/4" hex so I can't say how that would go but there are some great impact rated dimplers out there so it'd certainly be worth a try!
Many of your reasons are simply not true, unless you don't know how to properly use a drill. Smaller, lighter, no kickbacks...Yes, these are all legit reasons I would also choose an impact for certain tasks. However, the drill is an overall much more capable and versatile tool on all fronts. It is significantly faster/more powerful than an impact. Amazing you can say this on camera with a straight face, have you used that Bosch drill ever? ... looks like it's never seen a day on the job site. Please take those 2 Bosch units you've got there(the cousins) and drive a variety of fasteners and the drill will drive them twice as fast despite the torque advantage of the impact(on paper). Also, with the clutch set properly the drill will sink them flush every time. As for the too many settings to check dilemma- I guess if you've never used them it could be confusing but for those of us that use them daily it's essential to use these settings and take advantage of the flexibility they offer to properly execute different application. Wanting less features on your tool so it’s less capable just makes no sense. The different speeds are nice on an impact but it will never have the absolute precision and control of a drill particularly with applications that require finesse in delicate material . Also, drilling with an impact is a terrible user experience, no one in their right mind is drilling with an impact all day long . So I will agree with the weight/size reasons but I’m not sure if those will completely offset the terrible noise you must endure using an impact driver all day long.
Impacts do have that higher torque, but its applied in limited bursts. Drills apply constant torque so it makes sense that it drives faster
For me, if it can be done by a screwdriver, impact driver is always the better choice. If it needs a drill bit of any kind, I go with a drill. Hex shank drill bits work in drivers, but I find the experience unpleasant.
Seems reasonable. I don't mind using the hex drill bits in the impact but I can totally get that that's not for everyone. The combination of drill and driver on the same job is pretty great.
Last time I grabbed my impact driver for a quick project, I totally stripped out the screws.
Sometimes I just don't want the noise of the impact.
Makes sense. They can be really annoying. I do find that the Surge drivers are so much quieter but they're definitely not as quiet as a drill.
6:18 well maybe get a drill with a side handle and dont run holesaws 1 handed
You're right, of course. I had to set up this demo to show kickback but I've definitely experienced kickback when I absolutely didn't expect it - smaller jobs where I thought for sure the bit wouldn't bind but it did. It can really take you by surprise.
@@LRN2DIYyeah, and it's not like you're going to have the handle on all the time
I killed my Flex drill using a 6 inch hole saw with the side handle (gears broke, lifetime warranty FTW). I had to use my 5 year old ridgid drill to finish the job with the clutch on 24 since i don't have a side handle for it. Made me realize that maybe i don't have to have it in drill mode for hole saws, bonus that I don't need the side handle either when using the clutch.
Oke, all these channels keep saying impact has more torque than driver. DO SIDE BY SIDE COMPARRISONS IN HIGH TORQUE SITUATIONS! You'll be surprised driver wins out every time.
You didn't cover any aspects why you chose to use it for a delicate operation such as installing cabinet hinges versus a drill with a torque setting
someday I can afford one..
listening to the reason nr.2 made me think ..why the hell were drills invented.., since drivers can do it all
I’ve been a construction plumber for 28 years. Impact for screws is All I use. We routinely need to move wall mount faucets and shower valves (thanks idiot designers) impact works way better and fits in the small spaces I need to get to. I often need a right angle attachment with the impact, for super tight spots.
festool drills got an anti kickback system
They do, and so does the top of the line Milwaukee drill and Flex drill. It's a great feature and I hope we see more and more of it.
Same as new Bosch drills
oh no. Toolswithalz is going to throw a tantrum when he sees this video.
You'll have to fill me in on this. I just looked him up but wasn't sure what to look for.
LOL
@LRN2DIY
ToolsWithSoAlz is who you're looking for. He's another tool enthusiast youtuber who adamantly argues that drill drivers are superior to impact drivers. He does tons of impact vs drill 'races' into wood.
I use impact drivers more than a drill now
Number 7. I'm not as young and strong as I used to be. See number six.
Yeah, makes sense! They're easier to use for all ages, I believe.
Dang! RUclips must pay well. 🤣
You mean all the drills and drivers? Yes, RUclips can pay well but I've also spent 11 years building up the channel to the point that it does.On that note, all the tools here are paid for at retail price, no sponsors.
I swear nobody knows what phillips head to use 😂
German here, impact drivers are not really a thing here. We of course know they exist and people use them, but basically every home owner and actually most professionals never use a driver over a drill. In fact, when building homes, you can not legally use an impact driver to drive in normal load bearing screws. Because of "Gewährleistung", basically meaning that the screw might be damaged because of the impacting force, and you can not guarantee that it can hold the same load. I don't think that actually happens, its just a germany thing.
Can impacts drill holes now? They originally said don't and many couldn't because they were too slow and the impact actually made drilling worse or slower.
Yes, the can, with specialized bits
I prefer not to use either actually, I grab my DCF601 or my DCF610 for 99% of all my shop screwing. Using my drills for screwing is just as annoying as using my impacts and hearing them.
05:26 Are you ever going to use your Impact driver without the battery? Why weigh it without the battery? Are you ever going to carry it without the battery? What use would it be without a battery? You're a little -convoluted- finikity here I think!
One reason i dont grab is, i want to hear Something in a few years
Dewalt has a 12v drill that doesn't have the big chuck for bits, it uses the little chucks an impact uses so it's a similar size to a impact and the clutch comes in handy when drilling into cabinets, it's actually better.
The only thing I dislike impact driver is the bit locking mechanism
LOL the Hilti Exop Skeleton is nearly 1500$, no thanks
It's more of a specialty accessory for sure but, being the first of its kind, I suspect they'll get cheaper and cheaper. Might be worth renting for a day or two if you have overhead jobs though.
This is generally not something an individual would buy, but a company. If spending $1500 will make a worker more productive, reduce injury rates, and reduce worker downtime, they'll spend that in a heartbeat.
Which to buy first, Drill or Driver?
It depends, if you are an american living in a cardboard house, Impact driver. Rest of the world: impact drill.
everyone has his preference, but this is complete wrong. especialy for long screws the drill will do a much better job. make your homework.
Make your bed, make your room, make your homework
Why do you need all that torque first off. Your not taking off a rusted bolt. Theres no clutch for small screews. Anyone that claims to know tools , knows we use a pilot hole first for a multitude of reasons. Unless your using impact rated hardware, you actually have a huge chance of breaking the fastener bc its not rated for all that torque. You want to be lazy and say its easy, then fine. But there is a time and a place for both tools. Please dont spread more disinformation we have enough on these platforms. I get this is your opinion , and thats fine . But too many young, ignorant people follow this trend and dont understand proper ways of using tools.