As a Johorean from local Malaysia, the Singapore news never tells the whole situation to Singaporeans to learn the real truth about this property. The construction quality is lower than our local third-grade developers, and the most critical problem is that this artificial island is sinking due to poor foundational conditions and instability. This project starting from scratch, these China developers have already not been following the construction rules and regulations in Malaysia.
They trying to bluff optimistic carrotheads into investing this doomed project . Malaysia can't help forest city in any way , they can't even completed RTS on their side on schedule so it's really asking for a miracle for this project to even to completed or succeed in any capacity.
@@ricklaw9557 indeed. I would say their marketing were powerful. It stated "by the side of singapore", and those mtfkers just search online and it shows geographically it is actually by the side, but they never tell the traffic jam lmao
All of this kind Chinese developer their main target is the China middle class , this group of people many of them want a second home out of China for their emergency shelter , but some of them is not qualify for some countries requirement so they switch to Malaysia , they just buy a house than they can settle in Malaysia that is the best way they can do . ☺☺☺
The new leader for Malaysia will make sure the Ghost City not only survive but prosper because he is the biggest investor of the entire project. At least this is what I heard. Keep hope alive!
I'm winnie Tong Hooi Hwa, all my story is true, this company Eng Teknologi SDN.BHD in Penang, now change name ENGTEK company in Bayan Baru, B.Lepas, Penang, my phone Samsung galaxy phone software also give CM CHOW KON YEOW Gov't DAP license open stealing copy my Samsung galaxy phone software to them, now this sim card maxis number contract and Samsung galaxy phone software problem, give them stealing link copy share using, until phone Samsung galaxy phone cannot call, Dato'Gillian Teh Yeong Keat said want i no have H/PHONE using, if I give them kill, please help me link out, now I just can link to people know they all Gov't HARAPAN DAP CM, PM, in penang link family with thief family people's, also Gov't HARAPAN DAP YB Yeoh Soon Hin, YB Teh Lai Heng and YB S.P (phang),they all link family with Dato 'Gillian Teh Yeong Keat and his family Boss, Gov't HARAPAN DAP YB same gang scammer and thief with them, because Dato'Gillian Teh Yeong Keat and Dato' Tan Khoon Hai second wife want my money finish, do my life poor, my phone give them scammer company Boss using, control my phone Samsung galaxy software using at night and morning,sometimes afternoon also, sim card maxis number contract is my own Ic number, also my name, this Boss in molek take my sim card maxis number contract share to them do system WiFi business dirty, they all stealing link my Samsung software share with them do system WiFi business dirty also, all I report police, because Apartment Lim Fang Wei give them my name WiFi to them, i stay there Apartmemt Lim ,give them stealing link my WiFi to them, do my Samsung galaxy phone software always hang and no line,,in date 23/11/ 2023,I no stay there Place Apartmemt Lim in JB area already, until now my samsung galaxyphone also same problem hang and no calling,also no line no Tv show in Samsung galaxy phone ,every month I pay Rm60/- dollars, always give them scammer company Boss scammer stealing using, i don't know where i must go to report police, all is support Gov't HARAPAN DAP CM ,PM and YB police people',also maxis centre in JB area also, I 'm winnie Tong Hooi Hwa not "Suspect "girl in this company Eng Teknologi SDN.BHD, this company do dirty job money in Penang, now change name ENGTEK company in Bayan Baru, B.Lepas, Penang,I go where live, they all also call people disturb my room thing and do my life,report police also no use, because police cannot catch them one hair, they all is big stone money Boss in Penang and also big stone money in Singapore Property Lim Fang Wei, my Nokia software charger letrik cannot using, also this Apartmemt Lim WiFi do letrik cannot using,also do my bag damaged broken,all is true story, only Apartmemt Lim door no have Cctv camera , please help me link out,if I give they all kill, i only can link out my story happen to my life here in JB area, why?they all thief and Scammer Boss people, police cannot catch them one hair, because they all have big money give them stand up Malaysia,they all truly a thief and Scammer people's in Penang, what law Malaysia ?thank you
Last week I visited the place and went up to the central tower building on the high floor with the swimming pool, the view is really really stunning. The project is actually not bad, what's lacking is people. If the developer in collaboration with local government (since they are the shareholder too) can think of some way to revitalize the project I think there is still a chance
Completion of a building, and the subsequent sale of units within is only one stage of the entire value chain. What about post-development maintenance? As it is, sweeping the roads and planting some shrubs is not considered maintenance - by the time you purchase a unit, several years would have passed, and internal structures would have deteriorated. Would you consider such an "investment"?
With Johor Sultan now King and Iskandar was his Project n do u think this would bloom. I always like this forest city n have a house in Dato Om but was told it's far from where I stay n never had the opportunity to visit as my sister said. Nothing to see there. Singaporean turned Indonesian whom tried before to apply for MM2H when requirement was 500k n now 1 million RM
By right properties investment should be the way to grow wealth. But with corrupted & useless government, a country mismanagement will cause pty prices to plunge.
@@林燕燕-d3i I understand this point. Officially it is the same for Singaporeans who go to Malaysia for shopping. They have to declare it at the custom if the amount spent was above a certain amount. Then tax has to be paid.
Reflect: Thanks zaobaosg for sharing the topic. Indeed property investment can vary from country to country. Malaysia property market is different from countries like China and Singapore. Those who are based on the China and Singapore properties market approach to enter the Malaysia property market can be considered as mismatches in their calculation. In the *New Heaven and New Earth* project, ALL property markets are booming and benefit to stakeholders as a whole (including government; civilians; developors; etc.). God Is Love! 🙏🏻💕🌻🌏💕🌈
Malaysia are beautiful but with those external so-called developers are spoiling the once beautiful country building lousy ugly concrete buildings that eventually all becomes ghost town wasting resources should have put to good use on other area that will benefit the poor or less fortunate.Big and more are not always better. QUALITIES are most important be it safety or hygiene are concern.
事实是
1. 整个森林城市入住不超过500人。
2.超过百分之九十的商店都关闭了。
3.现在去那里的只有两个目的，买免税烟酒和假日带孩子去那里的泳池和海滩。
4.业主百分之九十都是中国人，而且都已经付款了。
5.从森林城市到第二关口是三十多公里需要开车四十分钟，不是五公里。
6.买菜，购物都需要开车一个小时左右。
7.唯一的国际学校没什么学生。而且贵。
8.左右前后只有你自己一家人。有些楼根本没人住。别墅区基本都是荒芜之地。
别问我为什么知道。问就是我也是韭菜之一😂
佩服你自嘲的勇氣。項目剛推出時，我住在新山，當時一看到價錢，直接被嚇飛，呵呵
50m2面积公寓15万新币不贵呀！ @limy0018
如果有条新的通道去关卡，相信租的人潮会上涨。
其他的都正确，5和6 需要更正一下。😂去到第二关口是10多公里的路程，塞车就需要30或40分钟。
买菜的话可以去eco botanic 的jaya grocer ， Aeon Bukit Indah 或Sunway Iskandar区等等，应该在10到30分钟就能抵达。
最后，希望你买的屋子有机会翻盘😂
几十万好便宜，我们大陆人买了有永久居留权吗》？ 可以随时进出新加坡吗
As a Johorean from local Malaysia, the Singapore news never tells the whole situation to Singaporeans to learn the real truth about this property. The construction quality is lower than our local third-grade developers, and the most critical problem is that this artificial island is sinking due to poor foundational conditions and instability. This project starting from scratch, these China developers have already not been following the construction rules and regulations in Malaysia.
Ha ha ha ha 😂 👍🏾 Stupid
Pay more you may learning more . 😂
Thanks for sharing!
They trying to bluff optimistic carrotheads into investing this doomed project .
Malaysia can't help forest city in any way , they can't even completed RTS on their side on schedule so it's really asking for a miracle for this project to even to completed or succeed in any capacity.
thx for sharing this! really matter
@@ricklaw9557 indeed. I would say their marketing were powerful. It stated "by the side of singapore", and those mtfkers just search online and it shows geographically it is actually by the side, but they never tell the traffic jam lmao
要感谢当年的销售员看不起我们本地人，才没有想要买..
他们很聪明，不想割本地韭菜 🤣
靠人，不如靠己呗。。。🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
我去的时候也对我爱理不睬。好在我没有投资。
这是高档住宅区不适合我们本地人🤣🤣，搞不好以后发展不起来才放便宜卖都没什么人要😅
怕你们本地人团结去闹事
本地人也基本不会买这里
2016年我在上海工作，当时写字楼里面很多这个房产大的广告。主打新加坡旁的地理位置。然后我上知乎搜了一下，说这个地方位于马来西亚，和新加坡没关系，怎么能享受新加坡的教育医疗等服务呢，碧桂园这个开发商太坏了。当时很多人就知道这个是碧桂园用来坑中国大陆投资客的。
我相信如果这地方搞得起来，肯定有国际学校进驻的啊，国际学校和新加坡教育，肯定选择前者的。 😂
森林城市里面有国际学校啊。不过我建议你到槟城比较好，有上海人开视频在槟城退休的生活。
@@TheStudio-div JIN BAO BAO 🤣
为什么不可以，有钱就可以啊
@@Jack_Ren 有钱干嘛不住新加坡。
第一， 它是建在reclaim land, 而发展商根本没有让土地稳定结实不到2年就开始建，建得还都是摩天楼！！地基肯定会不稳的！你们晓得新加坡的MARINA BAY reclaim land 得放置了起码10年以上才开始让建筑商建楼，还每年不停的检验土基的样本动态来保证安全标准达标！新加坡买家通常对地产安全标准都有一定的知识的，我们不会买一间会下沉的屋子的。
第二，这里的屋子都是zone or categories as commercial mix 而不是residential, 这代表水电费，网咯费, 杂费都是根据commercial or shopping mall 来收费的！这是很高！不便宜!
第三，屋子本身建得那么密密麻麻，风景一被隔壁栋遮盖，就感觉被高山遮，压迫感十足！而现在名声都臭了， 还卖那么贵! 新加坡人大部分不会买的。。。
第四·，除非， 马国政府提出特别类似mm2hvisa，像似New Zealand给的resident visa给买家, 不是PR，大家不要误会。这样让新加坡买家享受永久居留权，随意进出johor关卡免征, 让我们随意在malaysia 各地买房子定居，因为买的新加坡人都是要退休或住近马国的亲戚，这样新加坡人才会花几百千来买一个会下沉， 会造成严重裂痕和漏水的楼和屋子。。。不然，买了也没自由居住，进出马国，买来干嘛？
第五，还有如果马国政权又来个大反转，大家都这几年有眼看到就算曾经拿了mm2h10到20年的外国人和新加坡人也因为政策一改就再也拿不到。。那么多mm2h人士都一夜变成无家可归！谁还会对mm2h有信心呢？除非我们拥有的是resident visa永久居住权力，能居住在马国就不同了，至少机会像mm2h被马国政府推翻的机会很低。。要新加坡人做冤大头也要给出合理的条件对换吧！不然，退休一半，人以年过半白60，70， 80岁，被马国政府政策mm2h转变逼走的那群人，变成无家可归、那时的我们就面临新加坡已经没屋子住了，又被马国赶出自己在马国住了十多年的屋子。。。你叫我们住哪呢？睡街头吗？
第六，要在马国退休人士的新加坡人都是中等资产，不是有钱的， 有钱都喜欢退休在新加坡或澳洲，欧洲。。。不是马来西亚的。
你这样说证明你不了解现在建房屋的新技术。现在都是轻量结构。
但是密密麻麻的我同意你，看着这些蚂蚁房就不喜欢，太密了
@@熱血工人 小弟我真的不了解。。但只是拥有Diploma, Degree in Building 和在地产建筑业工作了多过了20年经验吧了。。见笑了。。
这类型的房子，密度太高，单位面积不大，建在填土上，确实太压迫了！重点是，还真担心房子多几年会塌下来！现在气候暖化，土地根基不牢固，海平面会升高。森林城市是否有做好这方面的规划？
@@Hihi68899 为什么你们会觉得自己比来自清华大学、同济大学，接受了七到十年全日制教育的世界顶尖土木工程师聪明
这个记录片做的非常好。让我知道了靠近新加坡的海景公寓，48平米只要30万人民币。都没人买。可见中国大部分城市的房价泡沫有多大
Hmm... On which website do you see 200k MYR?
一线海景这个价格买不到，30万的是面向不太好的
学新加坡投资房产全家移民。
那也还行啊，如果在新加坡上班的话
屋子是拿來住的 不要當投資
基本上我是沒有足夠瞭解森林城市的結構。
若是全部都是高檔房，肯定必敗無疑。
富豪表示：我這麼有錢，選擇又多，幹嘛一定要森林城市？😂
All of this kind Chinese developer their main target is the China middle class , this group of people many of them want a second home out of China for their emergency shelter , but some of them is not qualify for some countries requirement so they switch to Malaysia , they just buy a house than they can settle in Malaysia that is the best way they can do . ☺☺☺
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢全球我而退哦怕受到法规和卡路里真相c全球我而退哦怕受到法规和卡路里真相c全球我而退哦怕受到法规和卡路里真相c全球我而退哦怕受到法规和卡路里真相c全球我而退哦怕受到法规和卡路里真相c全球我而退哦怕受到法规和卡路里真相c
這個地方鬼城了10年，已經可以打掉重建了。
一般人沒看過空十年的房子什麼樣子的，那要真的進去住，還要花一筆不少的翻新費。而且你一人翻新沒用呀，整個這麼大的社區，又不可能全部翻新。
以現在碧桂園的負債，不倒几乎不可能，根本拿不出錢來維持這個地方。去碰這個案子是找自己麻煩。
沒有啦，蓋好才幾年，差不多疫情前蓋好第一期吧
@@tanchengs5502 他蓋了容納70萬人, 裡面只有最多5000~10000人住.
空了69萬人的量體. 你知道會怎樣嗎?
蚊子比天上的星星還多.
馬來西亞本地發展商爛尾10年的工程也不少,自己检討先。
@@dannypng1759 檢討誰? 反正碧桂園錢全收完了, 倒了又如何? 是你屋主的問題呀.
@@dannypng1759哪裡都有爛尾樓。但是中國的爛尾樓，它敢認第二，沒人敢認第一。可憐啊，中國人。
森林和城市本来就很难掺合。变成大型廉租屋村了
賣價高檔但賣相一點也不高檔，馬來西亞本地人怎麼可能看得上這種看起來像政府廉價屋那樣密密麻麻的公寓？而且還是蓋在填海地上的？😅
马来西亚要排华才能发展
本来目标客户就不是马来西亚人，主要目标是大陆的韭菜们😂
附近商店都倒閉了沒有就業機會，也沒人來開公司和工廠，入住率太低治安恐怕不太好，加上吃和買東西不方便基本上大部分人都不會選擇租這地方，其實是可以改善的，但要看政府怎麼去策劃了。
也是能建个桥过去新加坡就可以起死回生了，很多马劳就会过来住了
在马来西亚割中国人的韭菜 也是天才
确实，马来西亚马哈迪这一手，让碧桂园亏了2000亿。。。
根本就是中國人到海外還是割中國人自己韮菜.
这个项目很少本地人参与， 是中国人（发展商）坑中国人。
@@kchan7958是的，我知道
🇨🇳人口太多，有大智大德的人都会选择丁克。不过越是农村地方的人越喜欢生，结果后代不仅智力较低，也因缺教育资源导致竞争力低下，很大可能成为“下等经济阶层”。一代复一代，形成恶性循环。
还有许多中国发展商人工填海边地建高楼项目在新山，千万别碰！一旦有什么问题出现的话，已经找不到这些中国发展商了。
別搞什麼金融中心啦， 這些讓新加坡來搞。 這個地方變成airbnb 渡假村就好了。 開幾家海鮮館和遊樂場因該可以賺錢
度假村也只能从新加坡去比较进，所以人数有限制，senai机场太远了。
The new leader for Malaysia will make sure the Ghost City not only survive but prosper because he is the biggest investor of the entire project. At least this is what I heard. Keep hope alive!
I'm winnie Tong Hooi Hwa, all my story is true, this company Eng Teknologi SDN.BHD in Penang, now change name ENGTEK company in Bayan Baru, B.Lepas, Penang, my phone Samsung galaxy phone software also give CM CHOW KON YEOW Gov't DAP license open stealing copy my Samsung galaxy phone software to them, now this sim card maxis number contract and Samsung galaxy phone software problem, give them stealing link copy share using, until phone Samsung galaxy phone cannot call, Dato'Gillian Teh Yeong Keat said want i no have H/PHONE using, if I give them kill, please help me link out, now I just can link to people know they all Gov't HARAPAN DAP CM, PM, in penang link family with thief family people's, also Gov't HARAPAN DAP YB Yeoh Soon Hin, YB Teh Lai Heng and YB S.P (phang),they all link family with Dato 'Gillian Teh Yeong Keat and his family Boss, Gov't HARAPAN DAP YB same gang scammer and thief with them, because Dato'Gillian Teh Yeong Keat and Dato' Tan Khoon Hai second wife want my money finish, do my life poor, my phone give them scammer company Boss using, control my phone Samsung galaxy software using at night and morning,sometimes afternoon also, sim card maxis number contract is my own Ic number, also my name, this Boss in molek take my sim card maxis number contract share to them do system WiFi business dirty, they all stealing link my Samsung software share with them do system WiFi business dirty also, all I report police, because Apartment Lim Fang Wei give them my name WiFi to them, i stay there Apartmemt Lim ,give them stealing link my WiFi to them, do my Samsung galaxy phone software always hang and no line,,in date 23/11/ 2023,I no stay there Place Apartmemt Lim in JB area already, until now my samsung galaxyphone also same problem hang and no calling,also no line no Tv show in Samsung galaxy phone ,every month I pay Rm60/- dollars, always give them scammer company Boss scammer stealing using, i don't know where i must go to report police, all is support Gov't HARAPAN DAP CM ,PM and YB police people',also maxis centre in JB area also, I 'm winnie Tong Hooi Hwa not "Suspect "girl in this company Eng Teknologi SDN.BHD, this company do dirty job money in Penang, now change name ENGTEK company in Bayan Baru, B.Lepas, Penang,I go where live, they all also call people disturb my room thing and do my life,report police also no use, because police cannot catch them one hair, they all is big stone money Boss in Penang and also big stone money in Singapore Property Lim Fang Wei, my Nokia software charger letrik cannot using, also this Apartmemt Lim WiFi do letrik cannot using,also do my bag damaged broken,all is true story, only Apartmemt Lim door no have Cctv camera , please help me link out,if I give they all kill, i only can link out my story happen to my life here in JB area, why?they all thief and Scammer Boss people, police cannot catch them one hair, because they all have big money give them stand up Malaysia,they all truly a thief and Scammer people's in Penang, what law Malaysia ?thank you
Last week I visited the place and went up to the central tower building on the high floor with the swimming pool, the view is really really stunning. The project is actually not bad, what's lacking is people. If the developer in collaboration with local government (since they are the shareholder too) can think of some way to revitalize the project I think there is still a chance
等房地产企业缓口气手里有资金周转了这都不是事，在国内我看碧桂园运营的小区口碑都是不错的
相当指细的报道❤
仔细
难道不知道中国开发商最拿手的绝活是烂尾楼吗？在加上大马政府在烂尾工程这方面也一向有所建树，forest city有今天不是本来就可以预期的吗？
这个没有烂尾楼，但是价格高又高密度
看到这种超高密度房子肯定有问题还要卖到这么贵。
还是奉劝新加坡🇸🇬人！马来西亚这几十年的发展我们都搞懂！搞得明明白白的看的透透。
不要再陷入陷阱了！。买了一两间房子拿来租出去也赚不到钱也不会让你成为百万富翁！反而陷下一个坑亏损了！没事找事来烦。
这个房价对新加坡中产来说只是小意思，如果频繁来新山的把他当酒店说不定也比住在酒店来得划算
主要是马来西亚政府对国外买房者的一个政策发生了改变，其次是碧桂园疫情之后负债累累。
这种高度密集在中国都卖不好。我自己和亲戚的房子，随便一套都比这好。 千万别买，压抑得很，都是投资客，打工人住。
现在国内都开始流行追第四代第五代现代住房了，恰巧碰到房价下跌，大家都在观望。我们家都想能不能趁这个机会能不能置换更舒适的现代住房，现实是这种住房依然居高不下，而且售价远超预期。(福州苏宁旁边一个现代建筑超酷的，不是别墅，上次问里面一个工人，说一平要接近10，最小一套200平，真是日了狗了)
福州有10萬一平的社區？
@@Linsaec 第四代还是第五代住宅，在祥坂地铁口。200平以上
房地产投资是一项重大承诺。 一定要做好功课，了解有时房地产经纪人不会告诉您的隐藏外套和税收。 不要仅仅因为便宜而购买。 如果你根据新加坡汇率购买马来西亚房产，那么它很便宜，但如果你想出售，你可能会蒙受损失，因为价格对马来西亚人来说太贵了。
是枯木逢春还是回光返照？
死灰复燃用的什么意思？
2:05 应该是 "冷清清"，不是冷嗖嗖，超市备有冷气所以有冷风并不奇怪，但不能冷清
早報的報導還是很小心，很多真實情況都沒說，避重就輕
去问销售经纪? 他们一定会说好喽，要不那来业绩呢。。。🤔
沒美化就不錯啦！這報紙是中國喉舌！
没有提到最近那边的路陷，车辆被迫改道，修了几个月还没有修好
又來了!潑油專!❤
在过几年高楼电梯就陆续出现维修的潜在风险，发展商没钱，公寓管理费欠缺或拖欠。
很久以前到处就能看到，半途而废的建筑呗。。。🤷🏻♂️
买低楼(5楼或以下)比较安全
有一句话说人家害怕我贪婪你懂的。抄底？
大陆买家不会交管理费，当作废了的。所以最后承担这些费用的只有本地的买家。
在新加坡聯合早報網放這視頻，我在想這背後是不是有暖心的故事。自從彭帥事件後，我就對新加坡中文媒體包有特殊的「感情」。
碧桂園在馬來西亞的森林城市項目的未來可以用深圳樓市來做借鑑。
深圳樓市二手房價已經下跌40%左右，真想投資「鬼城」就再等多幾年吧！祝願人工島不會下沉吧？
台湾人就是傻B
没有40%那么多三分之一还是有的，这两天刚看深圳的房，跟去年做对比🤣🤣🤣
沉？可能会陷，沒看到最近那边的路陷吗？
@@howechang7735 我是sz福田区二十几套房的业主，我觉得你是个SB，吹完没？
印尼首都椰加達就是陸沉，海水上昇而要遷都，看來人工島的下沉是早晚的問題
其实啦 马来西亚人 更喜欢买有地的屋子 ， 不管排屋还是半独立的屋子 。 很多买公寓的 都拿去做投资而已 ，就拿johor 来说好了 地多，基本上大多数jb 人 会选择买有自己地 的屋子多过去买公寓来住。 只是很多新加坡人 来马买屋确实会去选择公寓。
因为有地房子需要自己维修，但是公寓可以交给公寓管理维修。
清净呢善哉❤
Hope for the best! From this vlog.. i can see... is not the worst.. seem still can stay and do some thing. I think i will visit. I mean is not bad.
因为新山都没有这么多人口，是不适合发展这样大型计划的。
当年的上海滩, 各国租界, 海纳百川, 十里洋场。
一个城市要发展, 必需对外开放, 吸引外资人材。
否则, 就当小渔村种红树林, 捕鱼, 空气环境也是一流的。
你是来搞笑清末民国是吃人不吐骨头你是瞎？不会觉得自己是少数个别军阀和大买办阶级？还有现在上海跟你说那些有关系？只不过作为中华民族的百年耻辱和国耻而激励国人和民族作为历史教育子孙后代而已。
马来西亚的房地产市场不会好到哪里去的，很简单的原因就是地大人少，而且没有新增人口。第二家园只是一个长期签证不但需要一直放挺多的存款还不能传承给孩子。想要拿永居就更加难比登天了，不管是在大马出钱投资还是出力工作，时间到了都要乖乖滚蛋，没有归属感当然不会有很大的兴趣去投资不动产啦。
有个疑问，马来西亚不是算半个穆斯林国家吗？他们应该挺能生的呀
@@豬豬鋮鋮 穆斯林确实能生，但是他们对住宅要求不高的
要求不高是因为穷吗？🤣@@michaelson409
这个就是属于你们政府的问题，原本是开放给外国人的，因为你们政府的某一个首相，不愿意导致变成了鬼城害得我们中国的碧桂园接近倒闭状态
我新山人 除了碧桂园和rnf 其他房地产商的项目都是人人抢着买的😂 现在要买都还要先放deposit 然后前面的人loan不过 才有机会排到你 明明就很火热🔥
谢谢分享
都要謝謝老马的所为大马才有这地方😅😊😂
Shd b Najib & JB King 😎
沒有老馬，這個地方就連本地人都買不起。政府應該利國人再利經濟。不然窮一輩子
没有老马，这地方已经面目全非。
多亏了他，外国商人才不敢吃相太难看。
把市场打坏后，就算买得起，也没人会买。
就算没有老马的功劳，本身就有过“万亿rmb”债务，加上某国的三条红线政策与3年动态清零把这里给搞死也不意外。
马哈迪把碧桂园坑惨了。。。
Why didnt mention about the change in the MM2H policy in Malaysia, i thought that's also one of the major factor causing this
Only Stupid and Gullible people will buy into this MM2H policy to help live in these Low Class Slum Condos. :)
这个楼盘其实当地政府的股权也占了很多，但是最后被骂的只有中国。我也是韭菜之一，去年国庆节期间有过去收楼，那里的确是人烟罕至，想叫出租车都难。3年疫情不能出入也是其中一个原因，加上中国经济下行，楼市崩盘，就更加增加了话题度。进出新加坡的话，时间可以接受，樟宜机场开车到森林城市别墅区大概是一小时以内车程，现在新加坡对中国免签，出入还是蛮方便的。有看到的事实就是那间国际学校有学生，虽然人少，但是近期韩国留学生在一批批的往里面进，别墅区逐步开始装修、收楼，都有在跟进；还有那个高尔夫球场，经营的也不错。说真的，对于大陆房价来说，森林城市哪里贵啦。。。为什么当时会这么多人去买，不是因为别的，就是因为当时卖点是马来西亚第二家园计划，大家想要的是这个，但是被马来西亚政府忽悠了，这也就是政策不稳定的国家的弊端之一，中国同理。anyway～寒假时间可以过去马来西亚避寒，算是有个小地方落脚，去吃榴莲也方便，买一台车出入也不难，就当是老人的度假屋了～😂
如果森林城市的业主能先低价出租，加上物业和免税品，可吸引大量新加坡西部工作的人士入住。有人气就会有商家，有商家提供便利就可以吸引更多人居住。
笑死，新加坡西部认识为什么要去马来西亚住？一天来回四个小时？
Completion of a building, and the subsequent sale of units within is only one stage of the entire value chain. What about post-development maintenance? As it is, sweeping the roads and planting some shrubs is not considered maintenance - by the time you purchase a unit, several years would have passed, and internal structures would have deteriorated. Would you consider such an "investment"?
1000块可以租整间 我觉得不错一下 去新加玻打工的可以存钱
Can’t believe people actually believe in property investment in Malaysia
Why not?Well they did believe in crypto and ftx.
有很多機會租房，要有耐心，不要著急. 即使海平面上升也不會那麼快, 唯一的街道至少可以容納車輛幾年🥱🥱!
没前途的
@@Jack_Ren 五毛公司相信它有很多'$$$途'!😎柔佛馬來豬丹已經從五毛土地開發商那裡賺了一大筆錢.
马哈迪让碧桂园亏了2000亿。。。
@junuaun1985 你说买的业主亏钱理解。 不是说都卖了90%了？ 碧桂园 还会亏？
投资新山，买马来西亚有经验的TOP 5上市发展商比较好。参考SP Setia, Sunway, EcoWorld, UEM集团等。他们盖的房子比较贵但有保障。
投资马来西亚没有前途
@@Jack_Ren还是有的，看你怎么选。
Sp setia 買家表示不同意
@@Jack_Ren 大实话，马来西亚真的没前途
@@theantimatter42SP Setia屋子怎么样？你买的哪里呀？
Zaobao, Forest City is in Iskandar Puteri.
Not Johor Bahru
19年去看過別墅區
價格落在1400多萬台幣
但地坪只有16坪
屬實誇張
开个赌场，
一切都解决
很好建议👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
专访的都是房地产经纪，都有利益冲突，所以都报喜不报忧，怎么能得到客观的意见？
碧桂园现在应该都忙着在中国自救吧，外国项目哪里还会放那么多心思😂
包子皇帝都去美帝大國跪地求救了🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
投資馬來西亞就是要接受這種風險！
馬來西亞其他房產項目有這種風險了？
@@tanchengs5502 看開發商。evergrande 和country garden 股票一直在低谷。買了最重要還要有公司接管maintenance 。 現在馬來西亞選舉後政治還算穩定。你是要買來投資還是住的？
为什么不说找中国开发商就是要接受这种风险？而且还是那么明显的 “万亿级别债务” 的开发商！？
很久以前，🇲🇾已有发生买屋大风险了。。。现今大多数人，更没闲钱再去冒这种险了呗。。。🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@lancelot_sin6351 有些中國開發商是跟美國借錢週轉的。 美國認錢不認情，沒錢還就要宣布破產。希望Forrest city 不會爛尾收場。因為馬來西亞沒有能力接手啊！
所以政府一定要立法發展商只能建好了才能銷售給買家。
With Johor Sultan now King and Iskandar was his Project n do u think this would bloom. I always like this forest city n have a house in Dato Om but was told it's far from where I stay n never had the opportunity to visit as my sister said. Nothing to see there. Singaporean turned Indonesian whom tried before to apply for MM2H when requirement was 500k n now 1 million RM
很完整的报道！
可以做多一点配套，吸引马劳去租
👍
老狐狸妖都拍板了~森林是给动物住宿的，
欢迎马溜蛤蟆入住 😂
@@maoliuda3672 👍👍👍
Welcome 🐸🐍🐀🐖🐉🦑🐉to Jungle Ghost Town
🙊🐒🐵🐒🙉 🐽 🦧 pays rent 🦧
新马高铁会复建吗？如果建好了这个地方就会起飞。
天意莫强求，也无需再强求😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
马哈迪让这里变鬼城的
房子还不错，主要是没配套有配套这房子估计很好卖~~
还是蛮多水鱼买了那里。
这里驾摩托去第二关口方便吗？想租这里
大马政府只要发给20年居留证给居住在森林城市的外国屋主, 人流自然来.
最终会好起来的，时间问题毕竟住房需求是有的，房子和配套都建的不错
新加坡人千万不要再去踩雷。
Singaporean and chinese will be here.lets build our new community in here.
理想很美好 现实很骨感
By right properties investment should be the way to grow wealth. But with corrupted & useless government, a country mismanagement will cause pty prices to plunge.
中國人的假，大，空在森林城市案子中發揮了淋漓盡致。。
说的一点没错
你看中国人的广告就好，十个有九个是彻底骗人的，一个是超夸大，完全没有诚信可言!!! 骗人一族！👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
對！
都是马来政府不作为，加上疫情。你个傻逼台湾人为了黑而黑
*It takes a Chinese to know a Chinese :) thank you @qungw556*
原因是
1.马哈迪上台后改政策
2.中国国内房地产市场低迷，且ZGZF不让降价销售导致碧桂园没有现金基本快破产了
基本上这个项目失败跟两国政治占比80%原因吧
在旁边的海港囗，建立大型邮輪中心！成为南部的停泊港！游客下了船入住这些公寓，你不觉得此地最适合短期住宿游客嗎？
请问谁有那个卖家的联系方式，200k人民币我想买一间放着度假
碧桂园或者说中国地产企业靠击鼓传花式的发展营销不可能持续下去，房地产方面的畸形高速发展已经走到了尽头。
中国现在是高科技国家。已经已经不是房地产那一套
@@bogodoyandex9654 明明就是炒房國, 基建大概佔整體GDP1/3以上.
何必騙自己???
@@ceciLOVEtaco 中国房地产崩成这样中gdp成长率还是高于马来西亚。确实挺可悲。
@@bogodoyandex9654中国人均消费还是远低于马来西亚
@@bogodoyandex9654 6亿人月收入不到1000。不是我讲的，是总理讲的。
这样看那个屋子其实蛮可怕的 那些植物多少钱不知道 但是那么多高楼＋建筑屋的绿化 做得我远看觉得蛮可怕😂
当年这个森林城市在中国国内广告铺天盖地，春晚都赞助过😂😂😂
中国人可以买排屋，新山还有很多选项，价格也不错
@@TheStudio-div 没钱喂😂😂😂
@@TheStudio-div外国人是不是必须买 100万以上的房子 ？
其实在那边起个新加坡新山来回巴士车站基本就是绝地飞升
好几十年前 很多新马富商到大陆内地去开发房地产. 一般结果都是两种状况 钱给了 发展商跑了 ， 建好了 被告知伟法 被充公了。 几十年后 大陆富豪 来这里建好了豪宅 买家和发展商自动跑了 把豪宅送给我们. 谢谢哦 🙏
🤣🤣🤣
马来西亚要排华才能发展
@@hongkongfuxksingapore5881马来西亚排华对你有什么好处？你不是华人吗？
@@gojigennooto0516这是事实，15年吉隆坡游行不就差点发生排华吗，当时黄惠康亲自去唐人街站台，中国军舰锁定吉隆坡
人声↗️大1倍🙏🙏🙏🙏
想当年啊，我一家人去参观啊，里面的大陆销售员啊，LCLY啊，看不起我马来西亚人啊，虽然也只是去看看，没有打算买，那次之后就再也不去了噜，现在那么悲凉啊，心凉啊😂😂
想多了。当年马来西亚比中国富裕 现在马来西亚比中国贫穷。所以...
这个地方很好，挨着坡县非常近，而且这些基础设施都建完一大半了，马来西亚政府是绝对会接盘过来从新修的！趁着现在房价减半！你们赶快买几套！这个地方一定会继续开发的
@@junuaun1985别傻了。自己骗自己。
@@Scambuster491 这个地方的基础设施规模这么大，而且大部分都建设完了，地理位置这么好，马来西亚政府是舍不得浪费的
@@Scambuster491 绝对会重新开发的！这个项目烂尾了，归根结底是马来西亚民族问题造成的
Built on reclaimed land. Who did the QC? Already a big worry. Who's maintaining the buildings? That part also crucial. Better sell it.
如果大马政府要救这个项目的话 ... 直接宣布 新山市的LRT 计划 ... 划三条线路
从市中心 往东西北三个方向衍生 ... 到时候森林城市有LRT 链接 就活起来了
到時候又有油水可以抽了 舒服
你们看错了这是一个考验，不是鬼城，这里是我安居乐业最喜欢的地方..🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
其實地點真的不錯～可以想像有操作的空間～
你有亲身体验过吗？
想太多. 外國人的思維~
对在🇸🇬工作的🇲🇾民喽。。。
所以房价才那么高
@@LofiGirlRhythms 有价无市
被采访的好强壮呀。
13:51 he got to be kidding. Malaysian buyers don't dare to buy at all cause its so over priced and poor build quality.
Malaysian will only rent from those Mainlander buyers, only RM1000 for a 2 room 1 bathroom 1 dining room 1 TV room , good and beautiful infrastructure
I dont understand the part about cigarettes and alcohols. Why do they need to hide if they are buying to consume within Malaysia?
外国不知道，但中国内陆人去港澳买东西不撕标签带回内陆超过定额就会加收关税，抑制带货群体避税。
@@林燕燕-d3i I understand this point. Officially it is the same for Singaporeans who go to Malaysia for shopping. They have to declare it at the custom if the amount spent was above a certain amount. Then tax has to be paid.
想当年在广州，那个广告打的，我都不好意思了，就是骗，割中国人的韭菜
heng啊～我很窮買不起這裡的豪宅😂
Reflect: Thanks zaobaosg for sharing the topic. Indeed property investment can vary from country to country. Malaysia property market is different from countries like China and Singapore. Those who are based on the China and Singapore properties market approach to enter the Malaysia property market can be considered as mismatches in their calculation. In the *New Heaven and New Earth* project, ALL property markets are booming and benefit to stakeholders as a whole (including government; civilians; developors; etc.). God Is Love! 🙏🏻💕🌻🌏💕🌈
马来西亚要排华才能发展
f扌
在国内住过碧桂园项目的人就知道碧桂园的房子质量有多差
屋内生长蘑菇群，潮湿漏水，铁质生锈，劣质家私，还有好多好多的。。。
提高管理费 为啥没有人提出来 ？？？
其实他的建设是很完善，对于退休人士和残疾人都很方便
JB值得买的房子太多了，除了森林城市。
我不太清楚细节 不过碧桂园不是债务危机吗？😮
千千万万不要贪小便宜，这些人工填海地不值得你们把钱丢进去投资，这些没有保障海边填海地以后会发生什么事情谁人也不会知道。
会倒呗
What kinds of building
碧桂圓，給你一個鬼城一樣的家😂
设施好，品质不错，关键是已经成型。肯定没问题的。只是现在因为政治问题被关了起来。
他们哪个不是虎视眈眈等出手？
三年後的今天還是同一個問題 。 追根究底就是馬來西亞政府的政策和開發商碧桂園 。
想罵我的不必等三年， 明年的今天就可以曉得我說的對與否 。
买来投资还行，买来住却怕怕，人造𡷊的沙和地基行吗？新加坡建高楼，土地也要等十年后才能建。
Malaysia are beautiful but with those external so-called developers are spoiling the once beautiful country building lousy ugly concrete buildings that eventually all becomes ghost town wasting resources should have put to good use on other area that will benefit the poor or less fortunate.Big and more are not always better. QUALITIES are most important be it safety or hygiene are concern.
especially forest city, R&F high density building.