What is Kosher Technology?
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2024
- Kosher technologies are gadgets or programs that have been modified to make them acceptable for use in the Orthodox Jewish community. The aim of kosher tech is to block elements of modern technology, like the internet, apps, social media, and so on. In this video, I introduce you to all kinds of kosher techs, from kosher phones to kosher kiosks. I visit a bunch of Hasidic shops, try a filter, buy a phone, and more.
0:00 What is kosher technology?
2:00 Buying a kosher phone at the vending machine
3:10 Visiting Eichler’s for a Kosher MP3
3:30 Kosher technology is not Luddism
4:00 Visiting Loadio, where you can transfer audio
5:09 Looking at kosher cameras
6:06 Trying a kosher filter
7:20 Visiting a gender-segregated kosher internet kiosk
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I'm not Jewish but I'm finishing reading a book that partly talks about the Amish and their approach to tech and I then became curious how other religious groups approach it as well and that's how I came across your video. I actually live like a block away from the local Chabad synagogue and it never occured to me to ask how Hasidim approach this so I'm really grateful for this video.
What book was thar
I'm not Orthodox, but I wouldn't mind some of these gadgets just for online privacy's sake! Too many things these days have access to too many other things.
That would be nice, but I bet kosher gadgets and filters are not guaranteed to maintain your privacy.
There's no internet connection & therefore no "online" to access so I'm not sure how this helps with "online privacy," although I suppose not having internet access is one way to avoid compromising your data, even if you also can't do much with it.
Very conservative Brethren Church members who are not quite old order (horse and buggy) also have a similar filtered flip phone available w/o internet. Still photos are allowed.
New Order Amish are allowed flip phones, but no internet, no photo or video capacity last I heard. These things may vary from group to group, but I am very glad for conservative faith groups to still have technology options!! Thank you for showing us what is available near you!
this is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
I can see a need for this tech outside of Hasidism!
Kosher internet... no social media, no harmful brain-draining garbage, no porn. Sounds kind of like paradise, from where I’m sitting. ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Yeah I was gonna say.
I loved this! Very well done Frieda. The storytelling, the editing, the footage, the music, you used all the right ingredients for a truly enjoyable content that kept my attention very high to the end. Hope to see more of this in the future. You are up to a very promising channel. Brava!!
Thanks so much, Valeria!
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn is there any way to ask you a personal question? Not as in 'private' info, but as in a direct ques as opposed to about the youtube clip.
I love the "have a gentile do it" workaround. I didn't know that was allowed. That must be an interesting job, I wonder what kinds of things people need done?
I would bet a good few bucks that the people who do your internet errands are not actually gentiles... It's just a business model for the very very pious... but the ordinary person has no issues with using the internet for work.
Speaking as a gentile in an ultra-orthodox neighborhood, I get hired to do all sorts of things - shabbas goy, shopping goy, internet goy, you name it. As a retired person, it's a fun way to interact with neighbors and pick up a few bucks besides.
@@willardroad That sounds fascinating. Would be fun to do a video following you on your adventures :)
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn Thanks for that. It might be a bit of a commute for you. I am in Pikesville, MD
I used to live near Pikesville.
As aMuslim I have to congratulate this group of Jews for trying their best to get rid and avoid the filthy world on the internet. It is hard and they are doing the best.Well done my Jewish brothers and sisters in humanity.
Thank you all for making the world a better place, from Alabama
I’m from Birmingham. Do you have a kosher device?
Very educational and well made. Thanks!
I’m traditional Catholic, but I’d like to get me a kosher phone. I have an old flip phone, no internet at all. It would be nice to have Google Maps and maybe a decent camera + video, but no internet. I don’t want to be bothered all day by everyone! I certainly don’t appreciate advertisements and all the inappropriate, sometimes disgusting material.
I have learned more about Hasidim than I thought there was to learn. And all because I saw a thumbnail image with a cute blonde a couple weeks ago.
You might want to blur that credit card number in the vending machine
Thanks E. I think by now someone had beat me to it because it had been stolen... It's been replaced since... live and learn!
I just learned about Kosher technology! Wonderful! Thank you! ❤️
I miss 47 st Photo! I am a retired Airline Pilot ! Whenever I was in NYC I would always buy something there ! There was a nice lady who was like Pearl on your channel . I spent a lot of time talking to her! Still miss her !
Very informative! Thanks for sharing
This is so professional!
Wow this is all really hard to believe feels like I walked into a worm hole and got hurled into a alternate dimension... I would not have believed kosher technology was a thing, now I want to know what programs are kosher, this is fascinating!
Welcome!
Very interesting, I did not know about Kosher technology. Thank you for sharing. 😊
Thanks for watching!
Really well done. Has a professional quality. I think this can have potential to get you a much wider audience. Well done. Keep it up!
Just thanking you again for your interesting, engaging, informative videos! (and providing a comment to assist you with the RUclips algorithm ;-)
I learn so much watching your videos. And I feel like I'm there. Very nice. Thank you! 🙂
I'm thinking of my kosher technology for my non-Jewish grandkids who are nearly addicted to their cell phones.
heh heh. I feel you Bruce.
I love listening to hear her speak ! I enjoy all 5he videos with Pearl.
Meanwhile, in Israel, there is a war on Kosher phones, or more specifically, phone numbers locked to Kosher phones. This year, the communications minister abolished the exclusivity of kosher numbers to kosher phones and now, a user can transfer their kosher number to a new smartphone and no-one will know. Of course, before that, many people simply had two phones: one kosher, one not.
two phones is common in New York too. :) :) Humans gonna human...
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn Oh yes. It may seem hypocritical, but I've learned to appreciate just how flexible even the strictest societies can be sometimes as long as you follow the rules -- or, more importantly, appear to. Sure, some remain super zealous even behind closed doors and must be no fun to live with, but most people manage to draw their own line somewhere else. For some, unfortunately, it is done with great angst and guilt, and others, also unfortunately, with very little integrity or care.
Why can't television EVER be kosher? There should be a way to have a custom TV or a monitor paired with a set top box that only receives special channels that are produced by a kosher programming company. They have this in my city for blind people which uses a special radio that receives a hidden station staffed by people who read newspapers and books and describe other materials to blind people.
There are a few ebsites like this, that are accessible even through the kosher filters that we have on our internet devices.
Because we have better things to do with our lives than to sit glued to a box and waste time!
That’s not a bad ideal for kids until they become of age…
Thank you for giving me some insight into the kosher community. Where I live, there aren't many people that keep kosher. So it's very interesting to learn about this type of thing.
If I'm ever in New York, I will look you up. I'm very interested in how people choose to live in modern society
I hope to meet you on tour one day! :)
Tbh, no twitter, facebook, and other forms of social media has been quite liberating for me.
I envy you. I need these for work but dream of the day of quitting all social media.
I was very shocked that your website was allowed 😁!
I'm not honestly. It's stereotyped that they just want cultish censorship, but they're simply protecting their community from what apparently took the outside world 30-plus years to realize is bad.
Great as usual. My youngest brother in israel has one of the largest kosher phone company .
I didn't know this was 'a thing' available!
I wished my grand-daughter's had this! Alas they probably have seen too much for their young minds.
Thank you for this info. Who knew? Certainly many people didn't know.
It’s probably one of my favorite topics about Hasidim. Their unusual technology…
I thank G-d for You
Looove it
I am still confused. Instead of buying a phone that has various capabilities blocked, why not just buy a phone that doesn't have those capabilities? Do they not sell non-smart-phones in the US anymore?
These are a level above smartphones. They are MORE limited than flip phones. You can't get 4G flip phones without internet, that's why it has to be "kosher", ie the internet blocked.
The question I would have is, though it's a mobile phone and not a "Land Line". But work's as Land Line's use to, meaning only vocal communitcation's. Will it have a speaker system simular to that of the old antiquaited land line's. Or the same as even the most advanced, costly cell phone's. Or a speaker system, one being even the least bit hard of hearing can utilize.
Hello i am familiar with this from other readings. I am Jewish but not Hasidic
I know some people who are non Hasidic Orthodox who use the internet but only type in very specific information to access what they want.
Also this is only my personal opinion
There are Hasidic who use the regular internet.
Some people need it for business.
I see people in the public library.
Honestly and say this with full respect that I believe there are leaders and rabbis who tell there followers not to use the internet butbthey themselves do.
They are careful not to let others know.
People can have self discipline to use the intenet.
Again i personally believe it is censorship.
We should be responsible for ourselves.
Anything can be used for good and bad.
Food; fire, money etc.
God gave us free will.
For children these technologies are great.
For adults it us censorship
We live in a free society and God gave us free will to make decisions.
I understand you are just reporting info and may/may not agree
with this.
There are Hasidim who have showed up at my coed gym in Manhattan
Nobody cared.
Same thing with the public library.
The very sad thing is that if someone is caught using "non-kosher' technology they are ostracized.
I know someone this happened to .
Very very sad.
It comes down to power and mind control.
Hasidism has involved into a whole different world same as other streams of Judaism.
Sadly has changed into power bases within groups money and what I call "appearances" and not just in the Hasidic world.
Again no disrespect to you I am just telling you what i have observed and told by Hasidim
(Includes Satmar) and non Hasidic Orthodox streams.
I totally agree
So now that you accused Rabbis...cough up your proof!
And the fact that you have people taking chances or doing things that go against the rules...guess what. Theres always fallouts in every group and sect. So, what does that show? That some shmendrik thinks he can get away with it? You dont live for people. You live, or at least most religious people do...to please Hashem.. Rabbis make rules to shield and protect. They dont hold a gun to anyones head. Its ALWAYS your OWN choice, to CHOOSE OTHERWISE.
I mostly agree with you but there's people like me who are easily addicted to the internet.
There's a lot of terrible things you get going into that is very much not kosher and even the non Jewish world is addressing such things, they just don't call it non kosher.
There's even scientific proof on how addictive the internet is and how it's affecting especially our youth.
I am one of those youth who got unnecessarily addicted to the internet when I had no one to talk to and I was lonely bored and depressed and at home.
From this experience, I think if someone voluntarily decides to have censorship for their devices instead of simply relying on their own judgment, I think that should be totally okay and to me that's a responsible move.
As long as it's not because they're told to do so and otherwise they have enough self-control in order not to involve themselves in unhealthy activities online.
I am not one of those people, and I did not come from an insular orthodox background.
So therefore, if someone personally feels they can allow to rely on their own judgment, to me that is a responsible and humble move.
Truly, kudos to anyone who can refrain themselves, I personally struggle, which is why I go into these comments sections and I still hang out on the internet. BH I'm on the internet way less than I used to, way less, but it's not enough.
It's not toxic censorship if the person consent to it. It is when they don't question it.
@@phoneman-xs3ft I understand what are you are say abd I agree with you .
My issue has to do with freedom of choice. If an adult in some of these communities us found to be using a regular cell phone they get into trouble.
It's a form of censorship .
Some groups have made it very clear that it is against the religion to use the internet abd regular phones.
My issue is that adults should make thrur own decision and not suffer
Consequences.if they choose a regular phone.
For someone in your situation. I understand .
For children I understand .
Otherwise it's censorship to tell someone what devices they can snd cannot use.
People wuth regular phones and technology often have to use in secret and away from the community yo avoid repercussions
Thanks for sharing
This is amazing. I am wondering how business order stock without accessing the internet?
Businesses are allowed to use the internet. There is a lot of leeway when things are done for the sake of business. So while internet is really not allowed in the home (and definitely not in schools) they are commonplace in businesses.
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn thank you
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn you dont need utube to do business
i dont know if this was mentioned in the video but is it Hasidic jews choice to own basic phone or are they not allowed to own smartphones
it's complicated. to some degree it is an independent choice, in others it is communal pressure. One day I will unpack the question fully. Thanks for asking. Great question.
It’s funny I actually got a message from Hasidic Jewish man on a dating app, he was from Brooklyn, but he was really scared he was going to get caught and he was talking to me secretively, Is that something that’s common?
yeah, that kind of thing happens...
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn It can happen but it is NOT common in our Chassidishe communities.
Frieda I'm wondering what's the reason you are using a flip phone?
Mostly because I don't like to be addicted to the web. I hope to discuss it a bit in an upcoming video.
Amen
Can we buy one of them from NY , and use in other countries?
Interesting. Can you hire someone to make a phone kosher? I know there are versions of Android without Google apps (no RUclips, Chrome, Gmail, etc), so it could be possible to take an old smartphone and repourpose with the bare minimum.
yes, definitely. I used to have a blackberry that was kosher. It had a special program on it that filtered out the web. It left on a lot of features.
I’ve been searching years for this part of the internet. Wow never knew the Hasidic Jews had it all figured out.
Wow! Where do I apply to be a Gentile internet errand person?
LOL. My guess is that this gentile doesn't exist... someone just figured out a business model to sell a bill of goods to extremists in the community.
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn don't judge,
I know for a fact 2 companies who do this,
one is called proclick,
Orthodox jews don't want to watch porn,
And even if you don't watch Intentionally,
There are always seductive ads with women wearing basically underwear, on every online platform, these ads are designed to catch eyes, for marketing purposes,
I wonder how expensive Kosher-phone is and is it working outside of USA?
depends on the phone!
I am not Orthodox, but I am curious. Your videos are really interesting.
Very interesting!
hi i have a kosher phone
SOOOOOOOOOOOOO professional... Wow... a million dollars
What's a name for this Donut Shop?
Which donut shop?
I’m shocked it let your site thru 🤣
lol me too
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn there are plenty of filters out there,
Each works differently,
There are blacklist filters, which is a weaker filter, which basically blocks out all porn sites, and any bad sites you program it to block, you used a blacklist filter,
There are whitelist filters which are much stronger, because a whitelist basically blocks everything except what you program it to leave unblocked,
You can request the filtering company to unblock it, so for example, a typical device, will include usefull apps like weather, waze, quick books, banking,
Depending on the user's need,
The goal of developing it like this, is that if someone wants to watch porn,
They would have to ask, the filtering company, and they would usually be embarrassed to do it,
This community should partner with the new “dumb” phone companies like Punkt who make phones that can’t even access the internet.
They have their own companies
Everyone knows that a kosher phone is a phone blessed by a rabbi ;)
מעניין... בייחוד לאור כל מלחמות הטלפון הכשרים של חצרות החרדים בארץ...
Yes, I hadn't known about how intense the kosher technology scene is in Israel. It's much more low key and harmonious here.
Who knew!
Nokia 225 4g if lot money then Nokia 110 or this one
What a business model!
First create an ideology that intrudes into the most most minute parts of life. Next, appoint yourself as the one in charge. Finally, charge folks to comply.
No kosher TV? Someone better tell Israel.
Its not really an ideology. Like maybe some things appear to be from the outside, but this is pure common sense. Look at all the prestigious people that wont carry smart phones or the entire Waldorf system of schooling where the kids are NOT exposed to technology...
..and the funny thing is, attended by the children of the tech giants that dont want their kids to get their hands on what they are producing for everyone elses kids.
Us Christians need this!
I actually put parental controls on my phone, so it in effect did the same thing, had my husband put on a password so I couldn't get undo it. But we don't live in a community where people do this, I was in effect isolated in my home with no social interactions via social media. I got lonely and went back to social media.
Yes, this was my experience too. I don't like all the social media but when everyone is on it, you isolate yourself when you're not. I think it's one of those times when it really takes a village...
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn Kinda makes me want to become Amish or Orthdoxo Jewish, but both groups speak different languages that I don't know, so that would be hard.
@@MoralGovernment funny story when I worked for a kosher cell phone (no text or internet)company we sold to Mennonites untill there pastor said it wasnt kosher enough for them to use
@@cohenlabe1 That very interesting!
Is watching RUclips videos kosher? Is making RUclips videos kosher?
It's officially not kosher... BUT... lots of people manage to watch my videos so that tells you something. I think the children are the ones that are especially sheltered.
I want a kosher phone and computer!
On first of Nissan get new phone kosher phone
this is kind of strange and very ironic these traditional Jews are very critical about modern technology but around the world ethical Jews is supporting modernized technology such as secular ethical Jews is supporting the New age technology I have seen Orthodox Hasidic Jews in libraries watch RUclips and Google but that's supposed to be forbidden but they still did it so I think it's really all a cover-up or even an individual opinion for everybody to live a certain way no one is always traditional everybody is doing something modern period 💯🖥️📱
The world is never as clear-cut as it looks from the outside. The irony is that while Hasidim officially ban a lot of technology, they are also very into technology (often modified, kosher) and they are almost fond of it. And yes, cheating on the official rules is quite commonplace!
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn yeah that's why I prefer to join modern Orthodox Judaism it's more balanced
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn There are so many rules and observances within the religion it must be hard to keep within them at all times. I would be interested in how indiscretions (from the minor to the serious) are dealt with, who makes these determinations and how any sanctions are arrived at (ie whether it's the individual's Rabbi, a rabbinical council, the family, the community etc). Also the relationship between scriptural laws and the secular law.
Well there are always indiv that do what they want. THATS THE POINT thats why they want to minimize what infiltrates.....you just proved the point. Indiv will seek it out when they can but they dont want it easily accessible in the home for children (or for adults).
What I’m heavens name is lit up on your jacket?? 😕
LOL! It's a battery operated warming coat. I hate the cold so I have this coat that's supposed to be a level above because it's electric. In reality, I still get very cold.
דאָס איז זײער ינטערעסאַנט. אַ דאַנק. עס געפעלט מיר זײער צו הערן אַ װאָרט פון מאַמע־לשון.
העלא זעלדע און ישר כח פאר אייער קאמענט
Bozi txa
I need Internet for my job (like most of us), but it attacks me with violent and disturbing things. RUclips is the worst. I like to watch educative videos, like yours, but it gives me recommendation for various nonsense and pornography (at least, I see it that way). It's not distracting, it's annoying and offensive.
I wish I had a technology to block those BS from me life and my family's life. And I am not a Jew, I am an Orthodox Christian.
There is a Chrome extension called ImprovedTube that will strip out most of the objectionable stuff from RUclips, including ads, sidebar chat, sidebar related videos, comments, etc. as well as change your RUclips home page to your subscriptions page (no more recommendations for stuff you are not subscribed to).
@@app103 I didn't know that. Thank you!
I would also like to add that all the same reasons why people these days of all ages are concerned about the negative and toxic effects of the internet, is the same reason why frum Jews don't like the internet.
I mean, who else prefer to not learn about the birds and the bees from accidentally coming across pornography?
If you don’t want kids learning about “the birds and the bees” from the internet, the solution is for parents and the school system to provide adequate, evidence-based sex education. Banning something only makes it more alluring, and promotes alternatives that may be worse.
@@GRBtutorials I have way less problems with school teaching where babies come from than the internet.
Kids aren't learning it from the internet as a scientific Google search, they are learning it from social media and horny people on the internet.
The internet is not what it was in the 90s, my guy, even then, there was plenty of dangers on there
Sex should be taught by trusted adults, not randos on the internet whether it be actual fellow adolescents or adults creeping online, chatting with minors about kinks, fetishes and other things that can wait till adulthood to be exposed to (not that kinks can't develop in puberty, but it's something the the individual should discover from their own, uninfluenced urges, not from peer pressure online or in person)
I would have preferred, for example, that I at nine years old, didn't learn what is the "ideal" sex position was from accidentally coming across smutt of characters I was innocently looking up reference images for the sheer purpose of making a fan comic about them, in a completely PG manner (it was transformers prime, btw)
I would have personally preferred exploring sexual positions when I was ready, not as a surprise during a completely unrelated search
All I'm saying is, I get you, but also, porn isn't decent sex ed
There is nowadays a new invention its like kosher spotify..
It's a device totally blocked all unnecessary features accept the kosher Spotify ..
Thanks, what's it called?
What's the difference between not using internet on Your phone and not having internet on Your phone? If Your religion forbids, just don't do it. Really You need a gadget to forbid You going into TikTok?
Yeah, that seems fair :)
How to keep from being assimilated... Resistance is futile. Much respect and admiration for those who try.
Arbiter Of 7ruthz Testamentz Famigliaz Vloodz
It's trying to cheat God, either you obey Him or you don't, there are no loopholes. Thank you, Lord Jesus and Saint Paul for putting an end to such obscene legalism and trickery against God
It's not trying to cheat god. It's trying to find creative ways to interact with God's creations without them taking over your life. It's completely wise way of handling our addictive world if you ask me.
I hope by mingling with them you become Frum. We have according to some Rabbeyim 200 years from Mosiah.
lol, im sorry, but this is so full of bs, if you dont want to use social media, messaging and whatsoever, just dont use it. if thats your religion, why do you need a phone that actually and actively restricts you from using such features? if you're so much into your religion, you just wont use these features "cause you know better". if you still have the urge to use "forbidden" stuff, well, then you should think about yourself and your choice of religion. its not the problem of the device you buy, its yours.
We’re still in stage 1 😉
And youd think other religions are manipulative 😂
Lol. Gonna sell to the Amish, too?
I like you, and your videos, but I have to express my opinion. As I watch your videos and others the same theme keeps coming up in my mind and that is this is all classic cult behavior. Oppression is never, ever a good thing.
It's okay if that's how you view it - a lot of people see it as cultish. I don't, personally, but I think it's good to leave it open ended and for different people to take away different things.
Slimy tricks to attempt to deceive God wont work
How about letting people learn about other things existing? You're just indoctrinating kids and then say the queer community is the one doing it for just telling kids they can love who they want and not what some sky daddy said. Do what you want with your life, dont force it on everyone else around you. Educate your offsprings on what they need to know to be happy, and that is not what you do. We're in 2022, please become better than this.
"forbidden internet" if not for the internet i wouldn't have known about my illnesses and would just die. For fucks sake
You're a fucking idiot, not because you want your kids (if you believe at all in life and pro recreation) to live a life of anxiety and depression what that's the definition of the internet, and that's why they don't let their kids do what they want on till they're 18.
wtf you just listen to google
@@Neo_Chord ok? or just go to a doctor like wtf
@@Hjdgkhddfv not a physical, but a mental illness
And no my guy, I listen to people who actually know what they're doing, and I myself am a biologist. I really don't understand this phobia of professionals who spend their life to help you only for you to go "oh but my god said no :(". You demonize those who aren't like you and expect everyone else to bow down to you. If you do believe in this, grow up.