Juan Diego Flórez ( tenor) sing "L'espoir renait dans mon ame" aria by Gluck... Franco Fagioli countertenor sing "Addio, addio, o miei sospiri" (italian translate París version 1774)
Hi Daniel...Franco Fagioli countertenor with aria "Addio, Addio, o miei sospiri" from "Orfeo ed Euridice, original version in Vienna 1762" by Christoph-Willibald Gluck
Very interesting confrontation two male voices, tenor and countertenor. It shows how much even the hihgest or lightest tenor is far from a countertenor (or rather vice versa). But there are opinions on YT by people usually criticizing Juan Diego Florez according to which his voice is nearly countertenor. Here one can see there's nothing more untrue... I decidedly prefer a tenor voice in this repertoire and JDF sings this piece in a masterly manner.
Juan Diego Florez y Franco Fagioli dos fabulosos artistas. Disfrutemos de su exquisito arte. Addio, Adio, o miei sospiri" from "Orfeo ed Euridice, original version in Vienna 1762" by Christoph Willibald Gluck composer ruclips.net/video/TqhdHHDZGWQ/видео.html
Cette confrontation sur cet air est étrange . C''est l'orchestre et la mélodie qui donnent le ton et le rythme scandé qui s'impose tout au long du chant de Florez , ténor léger , donc plus souple qu'un ténor . Mais pour la version Fagioli j'ai d'abord dû baisser le son tellement sa voix est puissante, brillante, virtuose.....La voix de Florez est brouillée (ou trop classique pour moi) et donne l'impression d' un vieil enregistrement, alors que celle de Fagioli est vibrante d'expression . C'est sûr , Florez n'a pas la voix d'un contre ténor, et inversement !
There is no coloratura for male "singing" voices. Coloratura is a laryngeal Adjust in cricoid preponderance and the voice must be projected on "sinus", a cavitie in the middle of the head. Then....cricoid preponderance, mouth wide open, covered voice projected on sinus.....TADA.....that's coloratura. So male voice can do it in falsetto, but not in mixed voice, as male classical singers do. Women do mixed voice in low and mid range, but pure head voice is only for women. And the last tip, what we call by falsetto in male voice, and head voice in female voices are the same thing, the same laryngeal adjust, same muscle action, same air flux base. We just call it by fallsetto because in the 16th century, there used to be castrato voices, female voices and male voices, so falsetto is a name created for male voices that imitate a female singing voice. "Falsetto" in itallian means "to fake", or "imitate". Everyone can do coloratura, but it doesn't make you, a coloratura voice. Ok, i'ma explain it to you. So, what determines, which vocal type you are is "tessitura and timbre" not your vocal range. you can have a terrific powerful voice able to do amazing high notes, but if it's out of your tessitura your vocal "quality" changes, so your timbre does too. What happens with coloratura voices, is simple. Coloraturas can sing in highest register out of the "tessitura" without quality decay, and can produce extreme high notes with less air pressure, in a full covered voice with lot of dynamics with a lot of overtone harmonics. In popular singing, the "whistle" technique is a coloratura based technique to produce that smooth high notes with overtones like a real whistle.
Coloratura is not a voice type. Coloratura is a technique/hability. Any voice can sing coloratura if it's agile enough. Coloratura sopranos are light-lyric sopranos. But all light-lyric sopranos in opera are trained as coloraturas that's why they usually call them coloratura sopranos insted of light-lyrics. But a full-lyric soprano can do coloratura too. Even some dramatic sopranos can. The same happens with the mezzo voice. Marilyn Horne was a FULL-lyric mezzosoprano voice with a more agile voice than most coloratura soprano voices i've heard.
@@bathie2636 That is correct. "Coloratura" is simply very rapid, agile, flexible singing. You know, with very fast runs, trolls etc. All voice types should be trained to sing Coloratura. Handel and Vivaldi are perfect examples of composers who wrote music with much coloratura in it. Actually, pretty much the whole era from the early Baroque through early Romantic period (Rossini, Bellini, Donizetti, even early Verdi) wrote with much coloratura, to be sung bay all voice types. Another example on You Tube of an excellent Coloratura singer, goes by the title "Coloratura Baritone". Check out his videos. He's excellent.
La voix de Florez est une voix qu'on perçoit comme "normale", elle ne provoque ni étonnement ni enthousiasme délirant, elle est rassurante, donc tu la choisis . Celle de Franco est exceptionnelle , c'est une voix de grand virtuose qui me transporte, très haut et très loin,, donc je la choisis ! lol !
Mir gefällt Franco Fagioli am besten.
Juan Diego Florez beautiful excelente & Franco Fagioli Amazing .. Superbe ❤❤👏👏 Bravo & Bravo!!
Fagioli....pura meraviglia
What about JDF ?
Juan Diego Flórez ( tenor) sing "L'espoir renait dans mon ame" aria by Gluck... Franco Fagioli countertenor sing "Addio, addio, o miei sospiri" (italian translate París version 1774)
Hi Daniel...Franco Fagioli countertenor with aria "Addio, Addio, o miei sospiri" from "Orfeo ed Euridice, original version in Vienna 1762" by Christoph-Willibald Gluck
Merida Zulimen You're amazing Merida! Thank you so much :D
Hi... only gift for you and all.. sorry my english..
Juan Diego Florez singing the version Gluck 1764 for tenor and french .. In 1762 written for castrato.
Very interesting confrontation two male voices, tenor and countertenor. It shows how much even the hihgest or lightest tenor is far from a countertenor (or rather vice versa). But there are opinions on YT by people usually criticizing Juan Diego Florez according to which his voice is nearly countertenor. Here one can see there's nothing more untrue... I decidedly prefer a tenor voice in this repertoire and JDF sings this piece in a masterly manner.
You should also listen to JDF singing "Pace non trovo' from 'La dona del lago' There he's stratospheric !
Bellisimooo
wow 4:06 to 4:36 Franco Fagioli.... belleza pura!!
And JDF is not?
Fagioli more
D A N K E !!!
Juan Diego Florez y Franco Fagioli dos fabulosos artistas. Disfrutemos de su exquisito arte. Addio, Adio, o miei sospiri" from "Orfeo ed Euridice, original version in Vienna 1762" by Christoph Willibald Gluck composer ruclips.net/video/TqhdHHDZGWQ/видео.html
Franco Fagioli countertenor - Juan Diego Flórez tenor C.W. Gluck opera Orfeo & Euridice "Male alto (masculina) stratospheric coloratura"
Jacob Józef Orliński
You should add a coloratura baritone too! Great video.
fagioli o muerte!
Cette confrontation sur cet air est étrange . C''est l'orchestre et la mélodie qui donnent le ton et le rythme scandé qui s'impose tout au long du chant de Florez , ténor léger , donc plus souple qu'un ténor . Mais pour la version Fagioli j'ai d'abord dû baisser le son tellement sa voix est puissante, brillante, virtuose.....La voix de Florez est brouillée (ou trop classique pour moi) et donne l'impression d' un vieil enregistrement, alors que celle de Fagioli est vibrante d'expression . C'est sûr , Florez n'a pas la voix d'un contre ténor, et inversement !
What's the name of the song? I love it!
I prefer Fagioli ❤️
Wow 1:28
There is no coloratura for male "singing" voices. Coloratura is a laryngeal Adjust in cricoid preponderance and the voice must be projected on "sinus", a cavitie in the middle of the head. Then....cricoid preponderance, mouth wide open, covered voice projected on sinus.....TADA.....that's coloratura. So male voice can do it in falsetto, but not in mixed voice, as male classical singers do. Women do mixed voice in low and mid range, but pure head voice is only for women. And the last tip, what we call by falsetto in male voice, and head voice in female voices are the same thing, the same laryngeal adjust, same muscle action, same air flux base. We just call it by fallsetto because in the 16th century, there used to be castrato voices, female voices and male voices, so falsetto is a name created for male voices that imitate a female singing voice. "Falsetto" in itallian means "to fake", or "imitate". Everyone can do coloratura, but it doesn't make you, a coloratura voice. Ok, i'ma explain it to you. So, what determines, which vocal type you are is "tessitura and timbre" not your vocal range. you can have a terrific powerful voice able to do amazing high notes, but if it's out of your tessitura your vocal "quality" changes, so your timbre does too. What happens with coloratura voices, is simple. Coloraturas can sing in highest register out of the "tessitura" without quality decay, and can produce extreme high notes with less air pressure, in a full covered voice with lot of dynamics with a lot of overtone harmonics. In popular singing, the "whistle" technique is a coloratura based technique to produce that smooth high notes with overtones like a real whistle.
+Noel Fernandes Countertenors don't fit in what I said!!!!!
There are a lot of countertenor different cases...
yeah, blah blah blah, Noel. But just listen to these two magnificent voices. And, please may I ask you, have you achieved anything of that level?
Coloratura is not a voice type. Coloratura is a technique/hability. Any voice can sing coloratura if it's agile enough. Coloratura sopranos are light-lyric sopranos. But all light-lyric sopranos in opera are trained as coloraturas that's why they usually call them coloratura sopranos insted of light-lyrics. But a full-lyric soprano can do coloratura too. Even some dramatic sopranos can. The same happens with the mezzo voice. Marilyn Horne was a FULL-lyric mezzosoprano voice with a more agile voice than most coloratura soprano voices i've heard.
Are you saying that *Coloratura* is a technical ability, of a singer, not gender base related to the biology of a person (men or women )?.....
@@bathie2636 That is correct. "Coloratura" is simply very rapid, agile, flexible singing. You know, with very fast runs, trolls etc. All voice types should be trained to sing Coloratura. Handel and Vivaldi are perfect examples of composers who wrote music with much coloratura in it. Actually, pretty much the whole era from the early Baroque through early Romantic period (Rossini, Bellini, Donizetti, even early Verdi) wrote with much coloratura, to be sung bay all voice types. Another example on You Tube of an excellent Coloratura singer, goes by the title "Coloratura Baritone". Check out his videos. He's excellent.
Конечно, Флорез лучше. Настоящий голос всегда лучше фальцета ) Здесь слышно насколько полный голос лучше кастрированного голоса Фаджоли
La voix de Florez est une voix qu'on perçoit comme "normale", elle ne provoque ni étonnement ni enthousiasme délirant, elle est rassurante, donc tu la choisis . Celle de Franco est exceptionnelle , c'est une voix de grand virtuose qui me transporte, très haut et très loin,, donc je la choisis ! lol !