@@pappas610no, that is a valid question. If SHE wants a specific wedding so badly (enough to delay a wedding for 5 frickin years), then why isn’t she or her father paying for it?
@@Stantorr I can blame someone for thinking a lie for 31 years... the first 15-20 yeah I can see that much after that is a decade of stupidity not glowing past it.
Husband and I have been married 10 years and we paid less than $2,000 on everything. My wedding ring was less than $100 from Walmart and I’m still rocking it. When you love someone you don’t care about the cost of the wedding. You care about the marriage not the wedding itself.
Agreed, my wife and I wanted a small wedding. I wanted a court house wedding and she wanted a fee friends to be there, we settled on a back yard wedding saving thousands. It was so good people started copying our idea! No need to be flashy
We got married in a park, with picnic lunch on picnic tables, I made my own dress, my parents refused to attend, whole thing cost $200, ring $100; now married almost 50 yrs!
I cared about both. Someone wanting a nice wedding doesn't mean anything about the intent of the relationship, and cheap-wedding moralists tend to believe they're better than people who wanted a nice wedding. I've been to bad weddings and cheap weddings, and nicer weddings and more expensive weddings were more fun and relaxing as a guest. I wanted my guests to have a great time, and I didn't want to worry. The girl in the call is mentally ill, and he shouldn't marry her, but a normie girl who wants a nice wedding isn't inferior to y'all, and most people who put themselves on a pedestal for having a cheap wedding do think they're better than other people.
@@Lauren-vd4qe My wedding was a lot like yours. Friends made layer cakes and we cut 'em in half and chained them together. The only thing we paid for was the honorarium for the minister. Oh, and a pair a new shoes.
The woman is on a downwards spiral, refuses to compromise on anything and the fiance doesn't look for solutions but ways to enable her insane behavior, jeez, run Forest, run.
@@PITA-z No, he is doing terrible, he say himself that if married they would be on therapy, stop that stupid trend of trying to keep happy grown women who behave like spoiled children, that on only leads for a miserable life for the man and eventually for the woman too.
@@PITA-z no he's a FOOL and those stupid troupes is exactly why she's behaving the way she is. People have bought into these stupid fantasies. She's probably just been using the whole wedding thing as an excuse to NOT get married because that is just ridiculous. They deserve each other, two fools "in love" have a blast in debt lol
If they get married I am 100% certain they will be unhappy with each other, he will be MISERABLE, he will be blamed for the marriage not working out, and they will 100% get divorced.
hmmm, alimony, child support (if she can have kids), his retirement, his health benefits, his assets. And this is after he works for 10 years busting his tail for her when she refuses to work.
My ex also was obese when we dated. After over a year later though, she's unfortunately is having similar issues being morbidly obese and I definitely felt like I dodged a bullet.
my husband and I married at our old apartment for $400, saved up bought a house, had a daughter and we will have the wedding of our dreams for our 10 year anniversary one day. Her "day" can be any day if she really loves you.
Yep lots of people have a very simple "marriage vows" ceremony or even at the courthouse and then do something special years later to commemorate it. Watch those wedding dress shows and no fat bride is happy about how she looks in an expensive wedding dress much less her photos.
Vow renewals are so bizarre to me unless someone cheats or literally comes back from the dead I find it strange to repeat vows. Honestly, weddings are so over rated anyways.
Agree. So many couples have issues before the marriage and should stay single. If you are with the right person with the same values, you should be getting along fine.
These seven year engagements are ridiculous! I always thought an engagement was somewhere between 6 mos. To a year. And these over the top weddings are ridiculous too
I worked with a guy who made his girlfriend wait 7 years to get married in case either of them got the 7 Year Itch. Gross. He was always making sexual comments to me at work.
There is be a bigger relationship issue. She chooses waiting for 'her day' over insurance, potential bankruptcy and marrying the person she claims to want to marry.
Yikes. She’s refused to marry him based off her need of him financing an expensive wedding DAY. Now she’s expecting him to fork out $800/month to pay for her health insurance? Sir - move on. She’s going to be a burden as a wife and as the mother to your children. SEVEN years - come on.
a burden as a wife? she IS a burden whether shes a wife or NOT! children? sorry to b so graphic, but how is a dude supposed to push past layers of morbid obesity to even ATTEMPT to um...well, you know....she wouldnt even need BIRTH control, SHE IS the birth control....
I think he needs to not get married and move on. After all the years of bad health? There's more to this and it has to get sorted before getting married or his finances are gone. She cannot be this selfish and expect an actual marriage to work.
People saying they can't afford to get married but what they really mean is "I can't afford an extravagant party". And it's not the bride's day. It's the couple's day.
The show took a whole new spin as soon as Dave asked what her health problems were. Suddenly Rachel's demeanor changed from helpful and chatty to instantly shutting up and quietly looking down at her fingernails and the quiet and concerned look on Dave's face said more in that few seconds than either one of them verbally said the whole show. I have no idea if this caller is going to read these comments, but in my opinion this girl needs to go and now. At 31 years old she is way too young to be dealing with these kind of health issues. It seems to me that this is the kind of woman that doesn't take responsibility seriously as she wants what she wants when she wants it if it's food, money, things, etc. Basically a 2 year old in a 31 year old body. This woman is going to be a big liability for this guy for the rest of her life. This woman sounds like a taker and he sounds like a giver, bad combination.
@@stellarocquie7957 That's my point. If she's dealing with these health problems now at her young age it's only going to get worse and way more expensive as she gets older if the root cause of this isn't fixed, and it looks like this woman doesn't want to take accountability for anything in life.
@@stellarocquie7957 are you just low intellect? As you get older, your joints and bones get bad, so obesity is OBVIOUSLY more understandable if you’re old than if you’re young. Obviously, nobody should be obese regardless, but it’s more understandable when you’re old like 50+, why does this generation not have any freaking common sense?
And I agree with Michael 100%. She seems irresponsible, lazy, sedentary, and doesn’t have accountability. Not even financial accountability. And she thinks like a teenager. That’s not good for somebody of her age, very very bad
It’s bizzare that he didn’t say anything remotely like it until he heard obesity and diabetes. As soon as the “big day” comment came out I wouldn’t have said you’re getting married today.
At a point where we are uncomfortable to ask people to be healthy. You can feel the tension and that they want to say what they are really thinking. She needs help I wish the best
🤣 Part of me thinks he has made her that way, at least worse. The girl is so heavy she can’t even work? He’s spent 7 years+ with her. People can lose that within that time frame so she chooses to be heavy with him.
The caller sees red flags that are more than related to money, he just doesn't want to say them aloud because he loves her and does not want to be disrespectful, or hurt her feelings if she listens to this. Her weight is a huge, huge, red flag and it impacts every moment of her life and every thought, emotionally, financially, psychologically and physically. How sad. She may want her "big day", hoping it will finally make her feel worthy, special. And, it will ... during the planning and choosing which cake, what colors and what kind of flowers. And it will ... during the ceremony and reception. The next day, she will be back to her normal life, unhappy, unhealthy and insecure. Forget about setting a wedding date, that will need to come later, if at all. Counseling ... PRE-marital counseling is an absolute must.
She has diabetes and morbid obesity to the point where she can’t work. But she wants a “her day” wedding she deserves? My husband is diabetic with severe issues and STILL works full time.
We can suggest that she got her diabetes for being obese - morbidly obese for many years. To be obese and especially morbidly obese is a sure way to get it.
@@cdbf98 when they are unable to sit or stand for a time that requires them to carry out their job duties. Dizziness, fainting spells, frequent bathroom use due to blood sugar fluctuations
It wasnt just that he said shes fat AND refusing to work like wtf lmao and the they way she said "do you all have kids?" She seemed so relieved when he said no
They did not give great advice. Dave got a little better. But his daughter is no friend to this guy. The proper advice is to run. And block her phone, email, social media.
Um... no. He needs to run away from her, then get into some intense therapy so he can understand why he values himself so little that he'd even consider chaining himself to a woman who's literally eating herself to death.
@@COINsimp2024 Do YOU understand the point of premarital counseling? This is from Better Help's website. "premarital counseling can help you and your partner address issues that married couples commonly struggle with." That's not what this guy needs. He doesn't need a partner at all until he figures out why he chose to inflict this woman on himself.
Red flags!! If you both loved each other to get engaged …you would have gotten married after a couple years and made that “special day” happen with what resources you HAD!! Lots of people have their special wedding by being creative and learning how to save on extra costs. For example: wedding on a Sunday, keep the guest list lower, find family to make the bouquets and go thrifting for centerpieces. It ain’t that hard!!! Just long hours of love planning. She sounds like she’s truly unhappy and miserable and her overweight status is causing depression and the truth is she will never have that “special day” because there is no satisfying an individual like that. You could blast through tons of money to have a wonderful wedding and still it would NOT meet expectations because something is wrong inside. A wedding is Not a bandaid …oh no Get out sir!! Get help
I couldn't help but wonder whether a "plus sized" dress is at the center of this, since she knows she can't adhere to conventional beauty standards re: dress size/ slimness due to her... situation
Another great call from the show thank you so much for putting them out there for young men to hear. Young guys you out there? Don’t be this guy. Good luck
That is absolutely mental. Glad you escaped that one brother. Imagine all the other things you could do with 25k instead of showing off to friends who don’t care
I had a friend who’s wife lost her job due to obesity and was able to get SS disability. He was obsess too and ended up dying of an enlarged heart which caused her to die two months later due to depression, etc. Both in their lower 50s and all brought on because they could not stopping eating too much and we as a society rewarded it with disability payments.
We all know obese ppl, even in the military, and I get on them to improve. Many cheap/free resources out there for Nutritionists (WIC programs) and fitness. Obese ppl are plain lazy.
People who eat themselves into obesity are mentally ill. They didn't die of eating, that's just a symptom of mental illness. We need to stop pretending over-eating is just a casual lifestyle choice and is okay to live that way. These people clearly need help like an alcoholic does. I know so many people who want to get healthy but they don't know how to get over their addiction.
Great comments by the Ramsey team, yes another thing to consider is that if this man doesn’t have the funds to pay for “her day,” he possibly doesn’t have enough money to be married and support her in the case of an emergency.
Yes well he said he can't even afford $800 for her health insurance. He sounds so nice and he's just desperately trying to put bandaids on the situation but never solving the real problem which is her weight. Maybe he's overweight too, just not as extreme.
An $800 a month increase is a huge jump…. If that happened to us, we couldn’t afford it either… even if we were fully out of debt. And we have no idea what kind of wedding this woman wants . A lot of women with the attitude she has want a $50,000 wedding or more expensive plus a honeymoon and a giant ring ….. So we are not sure if it’s the lack of income or the expense expected or both.
My husband and I were married at City Hall. That was 40 years ago. At this point a “big day” is just plain foolish. Cut your loses now. It’s the marriage that counts not the wedding.
The moment he said morbid obesity would be the same has someone saying a person is a gambler an alcoholic or a cheater. You run you dont get married. But it takes someone else with issues to put up with those kind of issues.
You are absolutely right about “takes someone with issues to put up with those issues.” I had a coworker with some significant mental health issues and other co-workers couldn’t figure out why she couldn’t “find a nice guy.” She dated alcoholics and other people with issues. It’s bc well off sane people don’t want to deal with that dumpster fire. People who also have issues can’t be too picky.
It’s also the fact that she’s being stupid about her “big day” when she needs to be focusing on her health instead. On top of the fact that she contributes nothing and he’ll have to be her caregiver on top of that if things don’t change.
If she is not working because of an actual health issue, and can not go back to any kind of work, then she should qualify for Medicaid. If she doesn't, she needs to find a job she can do
She hasn't married him, after seven years, because she doesn't want to. He hasn't given her the "big day" because he doesn't want to. They need to extricate themselves from this relationship.
“Health problem is she’s obese” I could see if she had like a brain tumor or cancer or something, but this can literally be fixed with diet and exercise.
If she's legit unable to work something's really wrong. There's probably another underlying issue going on that's causing this. Autoimmune and thyroid related diseases can screw up your system really bad, attack your organs, and zap you of your energy + put on a ton of weight and cause diabetes.
in my (somewhat limited) experience people that are more excited about having a wedding day than they are about getting married are more likely to be dissatisfied with how the day goes than people that are ust excited to be getting married at all.
It’s a joke!!! Problem is when you serve your country and sacrifice your mind body and spirit and come back to try and incorporate yourself back in society only for America to stab us in our backs. It’s pathetic joke on us!!
They changed property to “pursuit of happiness”…. Do you see the problem with that? How can you quantify “pursuit of happiness “ This woman wants a wedding and it will “make her happy “ for it to be as large and big as she desires. This is why changing that phrase has been detrimental to our society . Just because it makes you happy, doesn’t mean you have a right to it . The Bible does not back that up and obviously we see that our hurts can deceive us about what will make us “happy”… even healthy hearts can be deceived, and if you are mentally unstable and unhealthy, your “pursuit of happiness” is going to be very toxic to you and others.
@@Jaxmusicgal23 pursute does not equal getting. you need to get a dictionary. if thats what your saying people need to be taught something besides self loathing in schools. You can try to obtain what ever you want, doesnt mean anyone else has to give it to you.
Fancy wedding are such a huge waste of money. The best wedding i've been to are small backyard get together where close family and friends get together. The worse wedding i went to was one at a fancy country club outside of los Angeles. It was an event probably cost 300-500k, it was just overkill and they didn't even make it 5 years.
Meanwhile I'm about to he a bride and my fiance keeps checking in with me to make sure I'm "getting what I want" and what I want is to get it over with lol
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He is not a boyfriend/husband to her. He is her *caregiver.*
Walk away, sir.
No, RUN AWAY!!!
Just let people be happy
@@HenrySimmons1225are you drinking KoolAid?
Run away sir.
@@HenrySimmons1225if "being happy" requires a $40k wedding then no, swipe left.
If someone refuses to marry me because I’m not spending enough on the wedding then they can find a new groom 😂 what a terrible person to be so selfish
Why does HE need to pay for this huge wedding?
@@NanaWilson-px9ijYou're confused.
@@pappas610no, that is a valid question. If SHE wants a specific wedding so badly (enough to delay a wedding for 5 frickin years), then why isn’t she or her father paying for it?
@pappas610 Traditionally, the brides parents pay for the wedding, and the groom pays for the honeymoon.
women only want the wedding but not to be a wife
She doesn't want a marriage
She wants a wedding.
Good god
I feel bad for men like him who marry women that only want a wedding. Most of the marriages end in divorce.
Soooo many people are that way. That’s why the divorce rate is so high. Very sad
Women ☕️
Thats exactly what my x wife wanted. She wanted the ceremony and ring. Compromise and relationship not so much.
@@supereee7 Divorce? Nah, more like a life sentence for a guy like this, going in with his eyes open!
“Morbid obesity” - “Ok, let me take a step back” 😂😂😂
More steps than it sounds like the fiance has been taking 😅😅
DUDE RUN. it’s not like she can catch you.
*long pause* "I mean if she's the one Henry" 😂
Lol!! Am dead
😂 put that hippo in the gym
If she thinks it's "her day" she doesn't understand marriage
Can you blame her ? She's been brought up to think so.
@@Stantorr I can blame someone for thinking a lie for 31 years... the first 15-20 yeah I can see that much after that is a decade of stupidity not glowing past it.
She just wants a wedding (Disney fantasy), nothing to do with marriage.
She doesn't understand thermodynamics either.
In principle, I agree with you, but in reality, there is an entire industry (weddings) based on it being her day.
“Her Day” needs to be the day she got on the treadmill.
DO NOT GET MARRIED!!!!!!
Run for the Chopper!!!!!!!!!!!
GET TO THE CHOPPAA!!
🚁🏃♂️💣💥💥
They're going to need a Bigger boat!🤣🤣
DO IT NOWWWWWW
😂😂😂
Husband and I have been married 10 years and we paid less than $2,000 on everything. My wedding ring was less than $100 from Walmart and I’m still rocking it. When you love someone you don’t care about the cost of the wedding. You care about the marriage not the wedding itself.
Agreed, my wife and I wanted a small wedding. I wanted a court house wedding and she wanted a fee friends to be there, we settled on a back yard wedding saving thousands. It was so good people started copying our idea! No need to be flashy
Totally agree we did wedding, party and honeymoon for £2500, we had a lovely day, party and even a honeymoon at Eurodisney.
We got married in a park, with picnic lunch on picnic tables, I made my own dress, my parents refused to attend, whole thing cost $200, ring $100; now married almost 50 yrs!
I cared about both. Someone wanting a nice wedding doesn't mean anything about the intent of the relationship, and cheap-wedding moralists tend to believe they're better than people who wanted a nice wedding. I've been to bad weddings and cheap weddings, and nicer weddings and more expensive weddings were more fun and relaxing as a guest. I wanted my guests to have a great time, and I didn't want to worry.
The girl in the call is mentally ill, and he shouldn't marry her, but a normie girl who wants a nice wedding isn't inferior to y'all, and most people who put themselves on a pedestal for having a cheap wedding do think they're better than other people.
@@Lauren-vd4qe My wedding was a lot like yours. Friends made layer cakes and we cut 'em in half and chained them together. The only thing we paid for was the honorarium for the minister. Oh, and a pair a new shoes.
The woman is on a downwards spiral, refuses to compromise on anything and the fiance doesn't look for solutions but ways to enable her insane behavior, jeez, run Forest, run.
The man doesn't realise that she is not the 23 years old he was engaged to, she is now at the wall and still making demands.
Exactly, some people don't even wanna change to make things happen
"Love is blind". And "all fair in love and war" that man wants his lady to be happy over his own happiness. He's doing very Good just needs help
@@PITA-z No, he is doing terrible, he say himself that if married they would be on therapy, stop that stupid trend of trying to keep happy grown women who behave like spoiled children, that on only leads for a miserable life for the man and eventually for the woman too.
@@PITA-z no he's a FOOL and those stupid troupes is exactly why she's behaving the way she is. People have bought into these stupid fantasies. She's probably just been using the whole wedding thing as an excuse to NOT get married because that is just ridiculous. They deserve each other, two fools "in love" have a blast in debt lol
This is straight out of my 600-pound life! He's an enabler!!
Sounds like it
the good ol switcharoo, blame the guy as always
She wants the wedding but doesn't care to be a wife. Dude run for your life!
You're a poet and didn't even know it, LOL!
Absolutely right
@@stellarocquie7957 I just LOL'ed
If they get married I am 100% certain they will be unhappy with each other, he will be MISERABLE, he will be blamed for the marriage not working out, and they will 100% get divorced.
She has been his wife for 5 years. They have been living together, walking the baby steps together, both working. They bypassed the preacher.
They keep on that path the only “Special Day” is going to be a funeral and not a wedding 🤷♀️🤷♀️
She's 31 with huge health issues and can't work. What can possibly go wrong?
And would be high risk in pregnancy, can't chase after the kids, can't keep up the house. Cue Dr. Now.
Yeaaa he needs to walk away
SELF-INFLICTED health issues. . .
hmmm, alimony, child support (if she can have kids), his retirement, his health benefits, his assets. And this is after he works for 10 years busting his tail for her when she refuses to work.
Everything
She wants a wedding more than she wants to be married. Find someone better.
I think part of the problem is co habitating. This, for so many calls in limbolationships.
Once he said morbid obesity Dave’s thinking don’t marry her lol
My ex also was obese when we dated. After over a year later though, she's unfortunately is having similar issues being morbidly obese and I definitely felt like I dodged a bullet.
LOL exactly
Love is truly blind, I guess.
LOL she gotta GO
He could be obese too. 😂😂😂
my husband and I married at our old apartment for $400, saved up bought a house, had a daughter and we will have the wedding of our dreams for our 10 year anniversary one day. Her "day" can be any day if she really loves you.
Good idea. Have the party when they can afford it. She maybe watched Cinderella as a kid
Such a good pick me
Yep lots of people have a very simple "marriage vows" ceremony or even at the courthouse and then do something special years later to commemorate it. Watch those wedding dress shows and no fat bride is happy about how she looks in an expensive wedding dress much less her photos.
Vow renewals are so bizarre to me unless someone cheats or literally comes back from the dead I find it strange to repeat vows. Honestly, weddings are so over rated anyways.
"If we were married, I would want to go into marital counseling" - HUGE red flag
Agree. So many couples have issues before the marriage and should stay single. If you are with the right person with the same values, you should be getting along fine.
@@linhaton4957 are you married?
Then it would be TOO LATE, unfortunately for him.
@@samanthayates8812 What does the marital status of the other comnenter have to do with it? This is entirely about common sense.
@@stellarocquie7957 I can ask what I want
If he marries her, he has a long life ahead of him.
She would be a multi-million dollar anchor compared to marrying someone who can help earn, invest and grow with.
Not if she’s morbidly obese. Probably got about 10 years left
Unfortunately, she probably doesn't :(
@@Andrew-3445 looks like she's already grown...
“Diabetes and morbid obesity”
Dave looking concerned: “Um…”
But Rachel's blank expression when he said that 😆😆😆😆
Yeah if she's more concerned about a wedding than her health, her priorities are very messed up
Just buy her a wedding cake and find a girl who cares about herself as much as she cares about you....
@@4656superman you mean just buy her a wedding cake😂
Caller: "Diabetes and morbid obesity."
Dave: "Sell the car."
These seven year engagements are ridiculous! I always thought an engagement was somewhere between 6 mos. To a year. And these over the top weddings are ridiculous too
I worked with a guy who made his girlfriend wait 7 years to get married in case either of them got the 7 Year Itch. Gross. He was always making sexual comments to me at work.
There is be a bigger relationship issue. She chooses waiting for 'her day' over insurance, potential bankruptcy and marrying the person she claims to want to marry.
I totally agree with you Steven
@@SteveC484 I’ve never seen Dave backpedal so fast.
Yeah, he needs to RUN before it’s too late. Marriage and kids DO NOT fix relational problems.
@@SteveC484 don't forget the diabetes lol.
and over her health
Dave is in rare form here, and I mean that in the best way! No other host is as direct as him. He makes a great team with his daughter.
Yikes. She’s refused to marry him based off her need of him financing an expensive wedding DAY. Now she’s expecting him to fork out $800/month to pay for her health insurance? Sir - move on. She’s going to be a burden as a wife and as the mother to your children. SEVEN years - come on.
GOING TO BE a burden? It's pretty clear SHE ALREADY IS!
@@stellarocquie7957 right?!
She needs to also work on her health being obese is not a good thing either.
I would first get straight with her and give her a chance to fix her health if she wants to stay with him.
a burden as a wife? she IS a burden whether shes a wife or NOT! children? sorry to b so graphic, but how is a dude supposed to push past layers of morbid obesity to even ATTEMPT to um...well, you know....she wouldnt even need BIRTH control, SHE IS the birth control....
Dave said “welcome to GrownupGirl Land! 😂😂😂 I’m dying. Dave always has the best phrases!
This dude is a doormat.
Bro don't talk down to doormats like that.
100% she is settling for this poor simp. She doesn't want to marry him
@@monicamolina2221 like she has a choice
@@monicamolina2221 Sounds more like HE'S the one settling.
I think he needs to not get married and move on. After all the years of bad health? There's more to this and it has to get sorted before getting married or his finances are gone. She cannot be this selfish and expect an actual marriage to work.
People saying they can't afford to get married but what they really mean is "I can't afford an extravagant party". And it's not the bride's day. It's the couple's day.
In this case what it really means is: "I've spent it all on snacks"
She wants "her day?" Yeah, dude, you need to leave.
“She has to stop working because she has morbid obesity”
Sounds like a keeper
Lol
LOL
Let her go, she’s a liability
Exactly
He sounds pretty codependent, though.
A HUGE (emphasis on HUGE) one.
The WEIGHT of her issues…
Dave: Sale the wife
Caller: this is the love of my life
Dave: I smell a rat 🐀 😭
Dave is so based sometimes.
The show took a whole new spin as soon as Dave asked what her health problems were. Suddenly Rachel's demeanor changed from helpful and chatty to instantly shutting up and quietly looking down at her fingernails and the quiet and concerned look on Dave's face said more in that few seconds than either one of them verbally said the whole show. I have no idea if this caller is going to read these comments, but in my opinion this girl needs to go and now. At 31 years old she is way too young to be dealing with these kind of health issues. It seems to me that this is the kind of woman that doesn't take responsibility seriously as she wants what she wants when she wants it if it's food, money, things, etc. Basically a 2 year old in a 31 year old body. This woman is going to be a big liability for this guy for the rest of her life. This woman sounds like a taker and he sounds like a giver, bad combination.
What does her AGE have to do with her health problems? No one, I repeat, NO ONE of ANY AGE should have those ( self-inflicted ) health problems!
She's mentally ill and not even seeking help. This would be like looking after an alcoholic who isn't even on the road to recovery. No thanks.
@@stellarocquie7957 That's my point. If she's dealing with these health problems now at her young age it's only going to get worse and way more expensive as she gets older if the root cause of this isn't fixed, and it looks like this woman doesn't want to take accountability for anything in life.
@@stellarocquie7957 are you just low intellect? As you get older, your joints and bones get bad, so obesity is OBVIOUSLY more understandable if you’re old than if you’re young. Obviously, nobody should be obese regardless, but it’s more understandable when you’re old like 50+, why does this generation not have any freaking common sense?
And I agree with Michael 100%. She seems irresponsible, lazy, sedentary, and doesn’t have accountability. Not even financial accountability. And she thinks like a teenager. That’s not good for somebody of her age, very very bad
Dave has some massive self-control to not dig in on her being morbidly obese. Props!
No. He should have told him straight out to bail. This dude needs counseling to find out why he settles for dwarf planets.
Yeh, but i feel like he became a lot less supportive of the relationship after he heard that..
He should have gone in on it. It’s a major discipline issue
When Dave said I smell a rat I literally screamed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Probably the rat that crawled under her rolls and died
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s bizzare that he didn’t say anything remotely like it until he heard obesity and diabetes.
As soon as the “big day” comment came out I wouldn’t have said you’re getting married today.
At a point where we are uncomfortable to ask people to be healthy. You can feel the tension and that they want to say what they are really thinking. She needs help I wish the best
That is exactly what I was thinking! 💯
I spelled it out in my comment above :)
Run brother, sounds like she can’t catch up either LOL
Damn!!! Lol.
🤣
Part of me thinks he has made her that way, at least worse.
The girl is so heavy she can’t even work? He’s spent 7 years+ with her. People can lose that within that time frame so she chooses to be heavy with him.
Dave did a full 180 the moment he heard “morbid obesity” as the health issue 😅
Rachel’s facial expression 😂
The dude’s wife did a 360 the moment she got on the scale.
The caller sees red flags that are more than related to money, he just doesn't want to say them aloud because he loves her and does not want to be disrespectful, or hurt her feelings if she listens to this.
Her weight is a huge, huge, red flag and it impacts every moment of her life and every thought, emotionally, financially, psychologically and physically. How sad.
She may want her "big day", hoping it will finally make her feel worthy, special. And, it will ... during the planning and choosing which cake, what colors and what kind of flowers. And it will ... during the ceremony and reception. The next day, she will be back to her normal life, unhappy, unhealthy and insecure.
Forget about setting a wedding date, that will need to come later, if at all. Counseling ... PRE-marital counseling is an absolute must.
@@BitterComments At least.
She has diabetes and morbid obesity to the point where she can’t work. But she wants a “her day” wedding she deserves? My husband is diabetic with severe issues and STILL works full time.
We can suggest that she got her diabetes for being obese - morbidly obese for many years.
To be obese and especially morbidly obese is a sure way to get it.
She going to need a stage curtain to roll down the isle in
That’s what I’m thinking too! I asked on another comment but I’ll ask here too, at what point does obesity constitute unemployment?? I don’t get it.
@@cdbf98 when they are unable to sit or stand for a time that requires them to carry out their job duties.
Dizziness, fainting spells, frequent bathroom use due to blood sugar fluctuations
She wants “her” big wedding day but she aint working for it??? Oh helllzz naw.
Dude if you get married to her you deserve whatever bad happens to you. Love doesn’t mean make poor choices.
Engaged to someone with morbid obesity at 31. Everyone salute this man
Salute for unnecessarily complicating his life by tying himself to this woman. Wahala
Just goes to show that anyone can get married.
@@Elizabeth-yg2mg For ANY reason!
She might not have been so big at 24 and now he's attached
I guess it is polite to salute a sinking ship.
Rachel’s face when the caller said “morbid obesity” 😂
I didn’t see any change in her expression. (?)
she always has that look lol
Yea,it changed for like a split second.
It wasnt just that he said shes fat AND refusing to work like wtf lmao and the they way she said "do you all have kids?" She seemed so relieved when he said no
Rachel's facial expressions really make these episodes great. Lol
That's true haha
Priceless!
love it
spaz
Agreed she is made for this stuff.
I came here for great advice from Dave and Racheal…..I stayed for the comment section 💀
They did not give great advice. Dave got a little better. But his daughter is no friend to this guy. The proper advice is to run. And block her phone, email, social media.
He doesn't need to go to marriage counseling, he needs PRE-marital counseling.
Um... no. He needs to run away from her, then get into some intense therapy so he can understand why he values himself so little that he'd even consider chaining himself to a woman who's literally eating herself to death.
@@OscarSchneegans do you even understand the point of pre-marital counseling? I literally just said that.
@@COINsimp2024 Do YOU understand the point of premarital counseling? This is from Better Help's website.
"premarital counseling can help you and your partner address issues that married couples commonly struggle with."
That's not what this guy needs. He doesn't need a partner at all until he figures out why he chose to inflict this woman on himself.
@@OscarSchneegans The point is many decide in pre-marital counseling not to get married. This is what I'm saying.
What he NEEDS is his own apartment and a new, HEALTHY relationship.
Girls who REQUIRE these expensive "special" days are immature and focused on the attention and not the marriage.
Red flags!! If you both loved each other to get engaged …you would have gotten married after a couple years and made that “special day” happen with what resources you HAD!! Lots of people have their special wedding by being creative and learning how to save on extra costs. For example: wedding on a Sunday, keep the guest list lower, find family to make the bouquets and go thrifting for centerpieces. It ain’t that hard!!! Just long hours of love planning.
She sounds like she’s truly unhappy and miserable and her overweight status is causing depression and the truth is she will never have that “special day” because there is no satisfying an individual like that. You could blast through tons of money to have a wonderful wedding and still it would NOT meet expectations because something is wrong inside. A wedding is Not a bandaid …oh no
Get out sir!! Get help
So many red flags....
We'd be in martial counseling be cause I can't give her the day "she deserves"
O lordy...
For sure if you’re motivated enough.
I couldn't help but wonder whether a "plus sized" dress is at the center of this, since she knows she can't adhere to conventional beauty standards re: dress size/ slimness due to her... situation
6:28 DO NOT GET MARRIED. RUN. RUN RUN.
Another great call from the show thank you so much for putting them out there for young men to hear. Young guys you out there? Don’t be this guy. Good luck
Not sure how the guy can't see.
@@Neddie2k
Well I watched many episodes of Columbo growing up so I'm thinking he has a good life insurance policy on her.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 LOL
Everyone wants to be a princess and expect someone else to pay for it
Rachel's face when he said her health issues 😆
Well to be diabetic and obese at 31....yeah runnnnn
@@fauxbro1983 "MORBIDLY obese"
"....ok if she's the one" lol
4:04 yeah that silence and the ok....
Had my dying 😂
7 years ? That's nothing. I know people who still claim they're engaged after 15-20 years.
This dude sounds like such a nice guy. You can tell he wants to make it work.
Nice and naive.
Bless his heart.
Yea a nice guy- naive
....but she doesn't want it to work!
Too bad he doesn't apparently have any male friends or role models to shake some sense into him.
That advice was far more mature than anything I would've said.
“Well if she’s the one u wanna marry” 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣-- then Dave said , lemme take a couple steps back . Funniest clip I’ve seen on here
This is the same episode with the guy he called a sugar daddy.
hahahahaha
Yeah. Rachel is full of it. I saw this clip on Rich Cooper. Ent in cars. Cooper is a bit too much on the red pill but he was right on this one.
Tired of these Women that want their day. Funny how they will not be traditional, but want the traditional wedding.
My X GF told me she wanted a 25k wedding ring, needless to say she's my X GF...
25K for a ring? My whole wedding cost less than 20K.
You did the right thing! She wanted a 25k ring and would divorce you 10 years later claiming irreconcilable differences and took half your sh*t!!
That is absolutely mental. Glad you escaped that one brother. Imagine all the other things you could do with 25k instead of showing off to friends who don’t care
Dumb. Spend 5k on a ring and use 20k for a car or something else.
So happy to hear you dodged that bullet brother.
4:08 😂😂 "i mean, if she's the one, henry" translation "uhh, you might want to leave her"
No. She was not saying. Rachel was horrible. He needs to leave like the Hebrews left Egypt.
“Her day” probably includes consuming the entire wedding cake by herself. Don’t do it, dude.
😂😂
😂😂😂
You’re wrong for that one 😅.
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Mercy😭
She deserves an expensive wedding like she deserves to eat whatever she wants...
Sound like a nightmare for this guy.
This woman wants a wedding not a marriage.
Neither of these two should be getting married to anyone.
I had a friend who’s wife lost her job due to obesity and was able to get SS disability. He was obsess too and ended up dying of an enlarged heart which caused her to die two months later due to depression, etc. Both in their lower 50s and all brought on because they could not stopping eating too much and we as a society rewarded it with disability payments.
BINGO!
In the end was it more cost effective to pay the disability for a short life or pay for a long healthy life on social security?
We all know obese ppl, even in the military, and I get on them to improve. Many cheap/free resources out there for Nutritionists (WIC programs) and fitness. Obese ppl are plain lazy.
@@joyaustin6581 WHAT???
People who eat themselves into obesity are mentally ill. They didn't die of eating, that's just a symptom of mental illness. We need to stop pretending over-eating is just a casual lifestyle choice and is okay to live that way. These people clearly need help like an alcoholic does. I know so many people who want to get healthy but they don't know how to get over their addiction.
Great comments by the Ramsey team, yes another thing to consider is that if this man doesn’t have the funds to pay for “her day,” he possibly doesn’t have enough money to be married and support her in the case of an emergency.
Yes well he said he can't even afford $800 for her health insurance. He sounds so nice and he's just desperately trying to put bandaids on the situation but never solving the real problem which is her weight. Maybe he's overweight too, just not as extreme.
An $800 a month increase is a huge jump….
If that happened to us, we couldn’t afford it either… even if we were fully out of debt.
And we have no idea what kind of wedding this woman wants .
A lot of women with the attitude she has want a $50,000 wedding or more expensive plus a honeymoon and a giant ring …..
So we are not sure if it’s the lack of income or the expense expected or both.
My husband and I were married at City Hall. That was 40 years ago. At this point a “big day” is just plain foolish. Cut your loses now. It’s the marriage that counts not the wedding.
I started laughing so hard when he said the health condition😂
I said "Run for the hills!!!"
TO HENRY - lots of love from Scotland -but seriously - RUN BROTHER BE FREE!
Right!!!! Lol sad but that's my honest opinion too! Not worth the rest of your life brother! Run!
Wake up, Henry! You're 34 and still have time to find a better partner.
She wears the pants, yet she is the one not contributing at all. Life will be miserable if you have no say.
I don't think she can fit in the pants
Crazy to get bossed around by someone who's totally given up to the point she can't even work.
And those are very large pants.
He says he is in a big mess. Your girlfriend is the reason for the mess. If she doesn't like Dave's plan, move on.
My dude... find someone who isn't still a child.
Do not marry her. There are too many emergencies. This is trauma bonding at it's finest.
Dave flipped that real quick!
"I mean... If she's the one Henry... " 🤣🤣🤣
That got me...😆
That was good 🤣
The moment he said morbid obesity would be the same has someone saying a person is a gambler an alcoholic or a cheater. You run you dont get married. But it takes someone else with issues to put up with those kind of issues.
the moment he said that. You could tell Dave thinks her sickness is laziness
@@l.v.6384 Gluttony and Sloth are among the seven deadly sins for a reason...
It's possible he is too. Justifies her weight that way. In his mind perhaps.
You are absolutely right about “takes someone with issues to put up with those issues.” I had a coworker with some significant mental health issues and other co-workers couldn’t figure out why she couldn’t “find a nice guy.” She dated alcoholics and other people with issues. It’s bc well off sane people don’t want to deal with that dumpster fire. People who also have issues can’t be too picky.
It’s also the fact that she’s being stupid about her “big day” when she needs to be focusing on her health instead. On top of the fact that she contributes nothing and he’ll have to be her caregiver on top of that if things don’t change.
4:07 Rachel’s “if she’s the one then… 🤷🏻♀️”
Sounds like she’s thinking what we’re all thinking
If she is morbidly obese she can fix that and her diabetes would go away. Their situation is much deeper than finances
If she is not working because of an actual health issue, and can not go back to any kind of work, then she should qualify for Medicaid. If she doesn't, she needs to find a job she can do
I was listening to this on audio only but had to rewind to see Dave and Rachel's reactions to the beginning. 😂😂😂
"Morbid obesity" led Dave Ramsey to scratch his head. He went from "get married today" to get a "marriage counselor". 😂
So much wrong with this call, I don't even know where to start. Young men... do not be this guy.
She hasn't married him, after seven years, because she doesn't want to. He hasn't given her the "big day" because he doesn't want to. They need to extricate themselves from this relationship.
This.
Sad thing is this guy sounds like a good fella. He’s trying everything.
He needs help with his self respect...
Yep, sometimes you gotta make sacrifices to make things happen
He sounds like an idiot. Sorry
Simpin' ain't easy...
EXCEPT self-preservation..
Brings a whole new meaning to her "big day". Sounds like every day is her "big day" already.
She can have her day "on the streets."
Word. 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Just like Lori Harvey. 😆
Hahaha
Yup! My ex had her day, "in the streets" this guy may have picked her up! Dang!
3:56 How awkward it got after he mentioned morbid obesity 😂😂
If that was Kevin Samuels, may God rest his soul, he would have closed the call at 4:10
Most ungrateful modern women will never have their day. Don't get married. Live your life man, and stay away from debt.
Far too many women today want a wedding NOT a marriage. There's a big difference.
It's the Disney effect. It just keeps getting worse since Cinderella infected little girls' brains, haha!
“Health problem is she’s obese”
I could see if she had like a brain tumor or cancer or something, but this can literally be fixed with diet and exercise.
Sounds like this.one.migh t require bariatric surgery.
And counseling.
If she's legit unable to work something's really wrong. There's probably another underlying issue going on that's causing this. Autoimmune and thyroid related diseases can screw up your system really bad, attack your organs, and zap you of your energy + put on a ton of weight and cause diabetes.
Diabetes can't be, but the morbid obesity can
@@owlblocksdavid4955 diabetes can actually be reversed with diet and exercise. My dad did it.
Rachel at 0:40 mark, immediately knew where this call was headed
My guy, she ate her way out of her job and wants her special day. You don't want that future.
It hurts me to agree with this, but agree I do
lol Dave scratching his head 🤣😅
"Diabetes and morbid obesity." I guess her big day is gonna be a REALLY BIG DAY. If she lives that long.
She doesn't want a man, she wants a wallet.
Morbid obesity is not a health condition, its compounded interest on very poor food choices
I disagree. The poor food choices and needs are symptoms of something much deeper.
in my (somewhat limited) experience people that are more excited about having a wedding day than they are about getting married are more likely to be dissatisfied with how the day goes than people that are ust excited to be getting married at all.
People don't "deserve" anything, but life liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness. People EARN it.
It’s a joke!!! Problem is when you serve your country and sacrifice your mind body and spirit and come back to try and incorporate yourself back in society only for America to stab us in our backs. It’s pathetic joke on us!!
Pretty hard to pursue anything when you're morbidly obese.
They changed property to “pursuit of happiness”….
Do you see the problem with that?
How can you quantify “pursuit of happiness “
This woman wants a wedding and it will “make her happy “ for it to be as large and big as she desires.
This is why changing that phrase has been detrimental to our society .
Just because it makes you happy, doesn’t mean you have a right to it .
The Bible does not back that up and obviously we see that our hurts can deceive us about what will make us “happy”… even healthy hearts can be deceived, and if you are mentally unstable and unhealthy, your “pursuit of happiness” is going to be very toxic to you and others.
@@Jaxmusicgal23 pursute does not equal getting. you need to get a dictionary. if thats what your saying people need to be taught something besides self loathing in schools.
You can try to obtain what ever you want, doesnt mean anyone else has to give it to you.
Fancy wedding are such a huge waste of money. The best wedding i've been to are small backyard get together where close family and friends get together. The worse wedding i went to was one at a fancy country club outside of los Angeles. It was an event probably cost 300-500k, it was just overkill and they didn't even make it 5 years.
If she thinks it is only about her. then she is not worth your time.
4:00 its so funny the mood completely switched. "Ok, well, if you think she's the one" is the best response
If she can’t understand it’s “our day” time to RUN!!!
Meanwhile I'm about to he a bride and my fiance keeps checking in with me to make sure I'm "getting what I want" and what I want is to get it over with lol