Wow! I hope people can appreciate just how much work, time and thought was put into this video! The custom tools to measure and compare, the ways you decided to have direct comparisons and tests is a true testament to how dedicated Gavin is. Great video brother this was awesome, now comes the difficult part of choosing one....
I bought my Lee 50 cal press 2 weeks to early dang it!!! The only reason I got it was for the bigger thread pattern for the neck only 338 die now I know many others have that pattern too if you remove the bushing....
Tonight...I bought the Redding Big Boss 2 Pro Reloading Kit for < $400. I thought, at these turbulent Times... Why not, get into reloading. NOW, if I can only find bullets,primers,& POWDER...Really appreciated the MOST through evaluation of the majority if not all single stage presses for at least this novice to hand loading. THANK YOU..
Wow! Gavin has been creating great reloading RUclips videos for a decade! Yet, his presentation and content always seems fresh and informative! No One! And I mean No One, is working this hard to keep us up to date like this guy! Thanks for all your effort, bud! This beer 🍺 is for you!
It is three years later. After watching your review of 14 reloading presses, I purchased the RCBS Summit reloading press. I went one step further by buying Hornady's Lock-N-Load Die Bushing 3-pack kit making die change over KISS! The RCBS Summit press is GREAT!
You deserve some type of award for putting the most preparation time into a single video. Appreciate all the detail you've gathered and put out there for us. For 40 years I've had just one single stage press on my bench that has never left me wanting more. Your research suggests there is good reason for my being content! Thanks Gavin.
bought my Rockchucker in 1975 has been on many benches since the 1st day, it loads 55 different calibers and has never once let me think about any other press, i think I still have the bill of sale
Impressive, and no doubt when someone ask me again "which press should I buy for precision reloading?" I'll send them right here. Thanks for the massive work involved.
All I have to say is I've owned a Rock Chucker since the early very 80's. It has supplied ammo thru 30 years of National Match shooting, IPSC & PPS, hunting & plinking loads and is now turning out rounds for my PRS endeavor's including suppling all my friends and relatives with ammo in our current shortage. I can't come close to estimating how many rounds have passed thru that press but let's average it at 2000 rounds a year and subtract 10,000 in case anyone thinks I'm full of it. When I started shooting PRS I considered replacing it so being an engineer I broke out my measuring tools. I primarily concentrated on bore alignment, squareness and ram runout because there is plenty of float in the shell holder. Long story short at full ram extension there was only .0006 (6 ten thousandth's) runout in the ram. Squareness and alignment was spot on, less than .001" which was easily compensated for by the shell holder and I pulled out some loaded ammo and checked the runout in the ogive of the bullet. Most fell within .002" which I found to be variations in neck thickness of the brass and at least half of that was just over .001". I keep her clean and well lubed and needless to say I believe she will continue to crank out ammo for me for the rest of my years. Quality and performance like that speaks for itself.
I found one owned by old war vet that was sitting on the ground rusted solid… the old lady said 10$ ??? I took the offer and it’s my primary reloading press , after cleaning and reassembly …. Redding loader is sitting idle …. Might be in my mind but the Rcbs old dog has mojo and I don’t want to mess with that….. found was a yard sale and saw it laying on the ground of garage
After I ditched my Rockchucker for a Forster Co-ax about 20 years ago, reloading went from something I had to do, to something I wanted to do. Nothing wrong with the Rockchucker, but it's a basic tool that isn't particularly user friendly. Don't get me wrong, I loaded a ton of ammo on that old green machine, but I sure was much happier once I upgraded. I passed the old press onto a newbie that was just getting started who has put it to good use, and you couldn't pay me to go back.
@@lagoonrd4173You ditched better press for some broken (rusting on something as precise as press basically means its broken) randomly found junk? You are crazy.
There needs to be another Academy Award category for Best Reloading Product Showcase/Shootout (wouldn't the libs go nuts for that one?!). Gavin, thank you for all of the money spent and incredible effort and thought that went into this masterpiece! I watched it twice 😁. I am favoring the RCBS Supreme, but it is clear through this video that there are a few machines that are extremely good alternatives; each for their own reasons. I know that I weigh in pretty late, but I just wanted to say 'good job'!
Great job and a lot of work putting this together. I have had my old Bonanza since 1972, it has been consistent for near 50 years. Probably reloaded 9-10,000 rounds. Still right on the money. RCBS dies, bench rest and hunting calibres, it does them all. Again, great video.
WOW !!!! I'm going to purchase my 3rd press (2nd singe stage) which I will use for 6.5 creedmore, and I appreciate the detail you give with each review !!!! All said and done, I'm going with the Redding Big Boss II. I enjoy all of your video's Dude....you Rock !!!
Excellent video, I really enjoyed the finer points of your reloading. I have been reloading for years, I shoot several same calibre rifles, 303. I did at one time neck size only and not mixing each fire formed case with another. I later gave up this idea and factory resize all my fired cases. After resizing, measuring and trimming I anneal the cases every 5 times fired. I also find beam scales more accurate than battery or electric scales. I also find powder throwers inaccurate too as with the dippers too. Reloading is to each others choice and providing one takes care with powders and powder loads recommended by the manufacture one will avoid accidents. I shoot in the field and on military ranges, I also shoot on our local village range where velocity and energy are limited.
What an absolutely insane amount of work, expense and time. Great job! I am a competitive bench rest shooter and plinking shooter and anything that goes bang shooter. Hell I shoot rubber bands too. I love reloading. I have made ammo since 15 years old and I am 65. The plethora of tools is a blessing for us, but it is confusing even for me! I have several of the old Star reloaders as my primary tools. This needed to be done so badly. Thanks for a great job! Great analysis! So many people don’t understand reloading at all. They surly are mesmerized by all the equipment. Your recommendations tell people that good ammo can be made with all the presses. And match grade can be made with most of them. I think this will be the definitive reloading tooling video!
Thank You! I picked up an RCBS Summit because of the information you gave in the video and the Full Story. Works perfect and is much better then my other press.
Wow, incredibly thorough review of single-stage presses. Also, per your testing, I now know that I do not need to consider replacing my beloved RCBS Rock Chucker press that I have been using for a long time. The RCBS Summit reminds me of the Star Machine Works Reloaders that a couple of my VERY OLD reloader buddies used.
Thank you for taking the time to put together a very understandable shootout. You saved me a lot of time and effort on which press I might purchase. I was able to narrow my choice down to two or three and can focus on those as to which I would purchase. Great info
Excellent detail which I really appreciate. Would love to see your top 3 favorites from this. Great data, but it’s hard as a newbie to know from all this info which way to go.
I have settled on the Redding T7 Turret Press. I stack additional turret heads with dies already loaded and set for all my reloading calibers from pistol to rifle. I use an aftermarket handle and stand.
Wow! Nice job Gavin. I’m a relative noob but I am a very tool/equipment minded individual and, after doing a bit of research into which press would suit me best, I shelled out (pun intended!) for a Forster Co-Ax. I am very, very happy with the press and now, after watching this review, I’m even happier as it means that my objective take on what would do the job best for me personally was justified. Thanks again for a very worthwhile effort on your part dude. Nice.....
Have a friend who has several reloading systems and presses that he has acquired over the better part of 50 years in reloading. Some he has taken with him when he was overseas and ammo was hard to find in some duty stations. Not sure what his favorite is as he has a Bunker that consist of four conex containers together around a central shaft so he can access them from a central point. one container is larger than the others and the ceiling in it is 10 foot? He says it allows him more freedom for some projects. He reloads everything from Pistol, Rifle to Shotgun and even some cannon round for his Toys.
I always wondered about the RCBS Summit, looked like a great concept and the results show it is a strong contender. Thanks Gavin for this video and your comprehensive report will stand the test of time. But it didnt help my wallet so thanks!?!?!
Well, Gavin, with this one you really blew it the **** outta the water! Kudos for all the insane work you put into this. I was looking & salivation the whole time at the black press on top-left; I never knew Mec made metallic presses! Looks very impressive! Thanks!
Gavin, You know the only issue with setting the bar this high, is that the requests for this level of analysis with other tools is going to start flooding in! Lol Like a similar video involving turret press analysis. Or single stages presses not mentioned in this video like the Redding UltraMag or the RCBS AmmoMaster. Wait, did I just do that? Ugh, sorry my man! Lol. Thanks again!
Thank you for the AMAZINGLY detailed video. I was taught Benchrest shooting/reloading by a gentleman with knowledge like yourself. We try to reload to the level of psychosis. This video is so detailed that anyone can understand the tolerances of these presses ... The time you took for this video is greatly appreciated.
Excellent review, a lot of thought and hard work went into this video, I’m sure every reloader that rolls their own ammo greatly appreciates your effort in bringing us this review. Hopefully one day you might look at reviewing Turret presses . Cheers 🥂 🍻
Well..... I always knew that my rock chucker was not holding me back. Trying to tell that to others was a hard task sometimes. A lot of people simply think because the Co Ax cost more it was superior. The rock chucker scored the best in a couple and really as good as any and better than most across the board. I really thought the MEC would score better in runout. Also next sometime someone says I’m not a “serious reloaded” until I get a Co-ax I’m going to hit them with this article 😝. ultimatereloader.com/2019/04/08/fourteen-reloading-presses-compared-single-stage-shootout/15/ I think a comparison on dies would be very interesting. I’m willing to bet that results would be very similar and that more money does not always mean better results. Thanks for the comparison.
Extraordinary, preparation was well beyond expectations and extremely well thought out......spell binding and suspenseful waiting to see the data results. This is a new standard of excellence in making comparisons between reloading presses. Thank you very much.
Excellent video. Very well filmed. Very well explained. Very well presented. Using only facts instead of opinions. All test very well performed. Great summary of results. Obviously a lot of work put in.
You put a massive amount of effort in producing this video!! What a wealth of information you shared. Thank you!! This helped me make my decision on my next press. Stay well.
I have a fairly broad collection of mechanical reloading scales and mechanical powder measures I would love to do testing like this between them all. Or have you do it. Very good work!
Gavin I love this. I would love to see next a Scale VS Electric Scale powder/load comparison. Like something that puts the charges thrown and weighed against one another compares Muzzle velocity, SD, & ES. I say this b/c I have went from using the RCBS Charge master back to throwing and my old RCBS 5-10 scale with the roller wheel for the tenths. With the Charge Master my 6.5 Creedmoor loads running Berger bullets and H4350 I was getting SD of 2.5-5.0 which is really good for what I do. Now having not ran the loads weighed out by my scale over my Magneto Speed V3 and loading the very same specs I'm wondering if I'll get the same results. Would be cool to watch. Thanks
I'm a long time fan. I really want to start reloading 223 & 300 blackout. I'm overwhelmed with all the info on the internet. Do you have a getting started buyers guide line up that would help newbies get started with single presses that would lead to turret presses as we progress with our skills and confidence Any help for "dummies" is appreciated. Thank You, Sir.
Still today your well prepared data has helped me and my son make an informed decision on what type and brand of press is not only good in quality but precision in accuracy thanks
I like the Tip TIR tables especially. They show that the best TIRs are not turned in by the highest price presses. The RCBS ones turn in the most consistent TIRs. Careful comparison of all 14 tables will indicate that TIR is controlled by the uniformity of the brass cases more than any of the presses or dies.
@@joed2392: Yeah...I watched this whole thing just to see where the RC Supreme came in. I figured it would place in the top three. I've had mine for about ten years and couldn't be happier!
Great job and a lot of work putting this together. I have had my old Bonanza since 1972, it has been consistent for near 50 years. Probably reloaded 9-10,000 rounds. Still right on the money. RCBS dies, bench rest and hunting calibres, it does them all. Again, great video.
From Portugal. Thank you for your videos. They are all amazing and we can learn a lot. However, I would like to see a specific video charging the caliber 6 mm Norma BR and .308 WIN, from the beginning to the end, made with the best Dies for BR.
@Mike Good Lord Man, I was trying to be humorous, it must have gone right over your head. If I need that level of precision I will just use a set of Arbor Press dies.
@C-Bomb ...as a master toolmaker I usually put my high dollar precision Starrett, Brown & Sharp or Swiss indicators that read in fifty millionth of an inch on my RCBS or Lee loaders and make just as precision rounds as his. Plus I get to use those indicators at work making top pay which is money better spent and saved for magazines or ammo products.
Thank you. Very informative and useful, unlike most RUclips stuff. I think non-floating is better than floating because floating parts can misalign if the parts are not machined extremely precisely. The Forster co-ax depends on the die locking ring being machined so the ring flats are exactly 90 degrees to the center-line. I don't like to de-prime in the press due to all the junk that come out. I use a small arbor press with a dedicated de-priming pin.. And I use a hand primer tool because it gives much better feel than in-press priming. Do you have any data or experience that would indicate the lock-n-load bushing produces precision equal to 7/8 x 14 bushings?
Agree ... This is a monumental contribution to the reloading community. Many thank you's to all your hard work, and analytical approach to your analysis.
The Rock Chucker Supreme primer catcher actually only funnels to one side even tho it looks like it should, you take that back plate off and see for your self
Epic video but the conclusion was not unexpected. There are subtle differences for the most part. Not surprising that the Forster would be a great pick. Benchrest shooters and military snipers have been using it for a long time. I have it and I feel is probably the best choice one could make also due to the super easy die swap. It’s really the most convenient
Hi Gavin...fantastic analysis! I can see where you are questioning the value of "float" based upon your analysis, I am looking forward to what you will come up with here. But an even bigger question I now have based upon your data is the accuracy hit with the LnL system. The data you have shows the Hornady presses at the bottom of the list. Do you think this is due to the LnL system or to the flex in the Hornady presses or something else? I would be very interested in your viewpoint here! Thanks again!
Awesome info Gavin. You are definitely loaded with great ideas and info. My respect to you brother. Would you do a review on the Redding Ultra Mag? I am thinking it might be one of the most precise presses available, but you have actually had hands on with so many presses that I would really like your review.
Wow, totally nerded out but that's not a bad thing. Lots of comprehensive work went into this, and it will be very valuable for new reloaders or people choosing their first new press. Very imPRESSive ;)
And no overview of the quality of the ammo produced! Why not include that data when you took so much trouble to compile it and ultimately it's the most valuable data of all????????
After 25 plus years of loading for competition and cartridge design, I have to say I like the RCBS Summit. I have 2 of them, one with long handle and the other with the short handle option. In total, I have 7 presses including Redding, Dillion, RCBS and Harrells.
I would see a press, hear you talk about it and then think,”yeah, that’s the one I want!” Until the next press! LOL Great time to be a reloader , great presses at every price level. Hard to go wrong with any, but think I’m going with the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme. Thanks for your hard work!
Just purchased and setup a Frankford Arsenal M-Press. Your comment about the whether or not "float" is a good thing really caught me attention. The FA press's proprietary die holders has way too much front to back float. What I've found is that in order to get the shell holder to release the cartridge (I'm loading 9mm using the small setting) you almost have to slam the ram down to he bottom in order to release the grip on the cartridge. When you do this the die holder slides too far out (float?) and catches the edge of the next cartridge no matter how slow or easy I pull on the handle. I found a "bailing wire and chewing gum" fix by wedging a small magnet between the edge of the die opening and the die holder. Although the die holder is aluminum, the magnet is strong enough to latch onto the press frame and keeps the die holder from sliding out. Maybe as the press gets used more (broken in) it will not take so much force to get the shell holder to release cartridges and I will not have to use as much force as I do now. I will say though that once I got the dies set up and "fixed" the float issue, this press is very fast and efficient to use.
Wow! I hope people can appreciate just how much work, time and thought was put into this video! The custom tools to measure and compare, the ways you decided to have direct comparisons and tests is a true testament to how dedicated Gavin is. Great video brother this was awesome, now comes the difficult part of choosing one....
I bought my Lee 50 cal press 2 weeks to early dang it!!! The only reason I got it was for the bigger thread pattern for the neck only 338 die now I know many others have that pattern too if you remove the bushing....
Chris
@@chris3383 Iv got a old Hurder its in good shape its very heavy.
Tonight...I bought the Redding Big Boss 2 Pro Reloading Kit for < $400. I thought, at these turbulent Times... Why not, get into reloading. NOW, if I can only find bullets,primers,& POWDER...Really appreciated the MOST through evaluation of the majority if not all single stage presses for at least this novice to hand loading. THANK YOU..
it's his job. it's just a show and he probably has a crew helping him.
Wow! Gavin has been creating great reloading RUclips videos for a decade! Yet, his presentation and content always seems fresh and informative! No One! And I mean No One, is working this hard to keep us up to date like this guy! Thanks for all your effort, bud! This beer 🍺 is for you!
Bacnow Thanks!!!!!
It is three years later. After watching your review of 14 reloading presses, I purchased the RCBS Summit reloading press. I went one step further by buying Hornady's Lock-N-Load Die Bushing 3-pack kit making die change over KISS! The RCBS Summit press is GREAT!
You deserve some type of award for putting the most preparation time into a single video. Appreciate all the detail you've gathered and put out there for us. For 40 years I've had just one single stage press on my bench that has never left me wanting more. Your research suggests there is good reason for my being content! Thanks Gavin.
bought my Rockchucker in 1975 has been on many benches since the 1st day, it loads 55 different calibers and has never once let me think about any other press, i think I still have the bill of sale
Impressive, and no doubt when someone ask me again "which press should I buy for precision reloading?" I'll send them right here. Thanks for the massive work involved.
THANKS!
All I have to say is I've owned a Rock Chucker since the early very 80's. It has supplied ammo thru 30 years of National Match shooting, IPSC & PPS, hunting & plinking loads and is now turning out rounds for my PRS endeavor's including suppling all my friends and relatives with ammo in our current shortage. I can't come close to estimating how many rounds have passed thru that press but let's average it at 2000 rounds a year and subtract 10,000 in case anyone thinks I'm full of it. When I started shooting PRS I considered replacing it so being an engineer I broke out my measuring tools. I primarily concentrated on bore alignment, squareness and ram runout because there is plenty of float in the shell holder. Long story short at full ram extension there was only .0006 (6 ten thousandth's) runout in the ram. Squareness and alignment was spot on, less than .001" which was easily compensated for by the shell holder and I pulled out some loaded ammo and checked the runout in the ogive of the bullet. Most fell within .002" which I found to be variations in neck thickness of the brass and at least half of that was just over .001". I keep her clean and well lubed and needless to say I believe she will continue to crank out ammo for me for the rest of my years. Quality and performance like that speaks for itself.
I found one owned by old war vet that was sitting on the ground rusted solid… the old lady said 10$ ??? I took the offer and it’s my primary reloading press , after cleaning and reassembly …. Redding loader is sitting idle …. Might be in my mind but the Rcbs old dog has mojo and I don’t want to mess with that….. found was a yard sale and saw it laying on the ground of garage
After I ditched my Rockchucker for a Forster Co-ax about 20 years ago, reloading went from something I had to do, to something I wanted to do. Nothing wrong with the Rockchucker, but it's a basic tool that isn't particularly user friendly. Don't get me wrong, I loaded a ton of ammo on that old green machine, but I sure was much happier once I upgraded. I passed the old press onto a newbie that was just getting started who has put it to good use, and you couldn't pay me to go back.
What primers do u prefer to use for .308 win? Any specifics. With the primeaggedon going on I'm trying to be sure I get the right s$%#
@HockeyDad6631 I'm tempted to get one. I got it rounded down to either the rockchucker or the co ax
@@lagoonrd4173You ditched better press for some broken (rusting on something as precise as press basically means its broken) randomly found junk? You are crazy.
147k subscribers only, with all the hard work you do, you should be over a million long time ago.
A lot of hard work put into this one, thanks for all the great information!
So much you do for us re-loaders! Thanks so much!
You are welcome, glad you are finding these resources useful :)
Very well done covering a wide range of presses. Can’t wait to dig into the report. Thanks for doing this Gavin
There needs to be another Academy Award category for Best Reloading Product Showcase/Shootout (wouldn't the libs go nuts for that one?!). Gavin, thank you for all of the money spent and incredible effort and thought that went into this masterpiece! I watched it twice 😁. I am favoring the RCBS Supreme, but it is clear through this video that there are a few machines that are extremely good alternatives; each for their own reasons. I know that I weigh in pretty late, but I just wanted to say 'good job'!
Great job and a lot of work putting this together. I have had my old Bonanza since 1972, it has been consistent for near 50 years. Probably reloaded 9-10,000 rounds. Still right on the money. RCBS dies, bench rest and hunting calibres, it does them all. Again, great video.
The absolute best video I've ever viewed on reloading engineering specs.
The Inline Fab stuff is brilliant. Just got my Ultamount last week.
Been using rcbs jr. single stage for alot of years and still am i have 3 of them would never change thanks nice video
This makes me feel even better about my rock chucker. I believe my next press will be another one...
WOW !!!! I'm going to purchase my 3rd press (2nd singe stage) which I will use for 6.5 creedmore, and I appreciate the detail you give with each review !!!! All said and done, I'm going with the Redding Big Boss II. I enjoy all of your video's Dude....you Rock !!!
I'm just getting into reloading and wow so much to take in I really appreciate what you do brother!!!
Excellent video, I really enjoyed the finer points of your reloading. I have been reloading for years, I shoot several same calibre rifles, 303. I did at one time neck size only and not mixing each fire formed case with another. I later gave up this idea and factory resize all my fired cases. After resizing, measuring and trimming I anneal the cases every 5 times fired. I also find beam scales more accurate than battery or electric scales. I also find powder throwers inaccurate too as with the dippers too. Reloading is to each others choice and providing one takes care with powders and powder loads recommended by the manufacture one will avoid accidents. I shoot in the field and on military ranges, I also shoot on our local village range where velocity and energy are limited.
What an absolutely insane amount of work, expense and time. Great job!
I am a competitive bench rest shooter and plinking shooter and anything that goes bang shooter. Hell I shoot rubber bands too. I love reloading. I have made ammo since 15 years old and I am 65. The plethora of tools is a blessing for us, but it is confusing even for me! I have several of the old Star reloaders as my primary tools. This needed to be done so badly. Thanks for a great job!
Great analysis! So many people don’t understand reloading at all. They surly are mesmerized by all the equipment. Your recommendations tell people that good ammo can be made with all the presses. And match grade can be made with most of them.
I think this will be the definitive reloading tooling video!
dude seriously - i couldnt imagine there being any other loader vid - great info thanks!
Thank You! I picked up an RCBS Summit because of the information you gave in the video and the Full Story. Works perfect and is much better then my other press.
Nice video! Thanks for your time! I like my RCBS Summit even more now
Wow, incredibly thorough review of single-stage presses. Also, per your testing, I now know that I do not need to consider replacing my beloved RCBS Rock Chucker press that I have been using for a long time.
The RCBS Summit reminds me of the Star Machine Works Reloaders that a couple of my VERY OLD reloader buddies used.
Thank you for taking the time to put together a very understandable shootout. You saved me a lot of time and effort on which press I might purchase. I was able to narrow my choice down to two or three and can focus on those as to which I would purchase. Great info
Excellent detail which I really appreciate. Would love to see your top 3 favorites from this. Great data, but it’s hard as a newbie to know from all this info which way to go.
I have settled on the Redding T7 Turret Press. I stack additional turret heads with dies already loaded and set for all my reloading calibers from pistol to rifle. I use an aftermarket handle and stand.
Been waiting something similar this for years. Thank you. Objective repeatable data that's meaningful thanks to strict testing criteria.
Wow! Nice job Gavin. I’m a relative noob but I am a very tool/equipment minded individual and, after doing a bit of research into which press would suit me best, I shelled out (pun intended!) for a Forster Co-Ax. I am very, very happy with the press and now, after watching this review, I’m even happier as it means that my objective take on what would do the job best for me personally was justified.
Thanks again for a very worthwhile effort on your part dude. Nice.....
Thanks, and great choice!
From South Africa, I can verify the Rock Chucker catches spent primers to the right as well...
Haha! Good to know :)
Have a friend who has several reloading systems and presses that he has acquired over the better part of 50 years in reloading. Some he has taken with
him when he was overseas and ammo was hard to find in some duty stations. Not sure what his favorite is as he has a Bunker that consist of
four conex containers together around a central shaft so he can access them from a central point. one container is larger than the others and the
ceiling in it is 10 foot? He says it allows him more freedom for some projects. He reloads everything from Pistol, Rifle to Shotgun and even
some cannon round for his Toys.
Great job Brother!
Thanks!
I purchased a Lyman Ideal this past weekend thanks to your videos. Glad I didn’t make a poor choice! Thanks, Gavin!
I always wondered about the RCBS Summit, looked like a great concept and the results show it is a strong contender.
Thanks Gavin for this video and your comprehensive report will stand the test of time. But it didnt help my wallet so thanks!?!?!
One premier presentation. Really appreciate the work you put in this presentation.
Your finest work to date. Thank you for all your time and effort.
Well, Gavin, with this one you really blew it the **** outta the water! Kudos for all the insane work you put into this.
I was looking & salivation the whole time at the black press on top-left; I never knew Mec made metallic presses! Looks very impressive! Thanks!
Gavin,
You know the only issue with setting the bar this high, is that the requests for this level of analysis with other tools is going to start flooding in! Lol
Like a similar video involving turret press analysis. Or single stages presses not mentioned in this video like the Redding UltraMag or the RCBS AmmoMaster.
Wait, did I just do that? Ugh, sorry my man! Lol. Thanks again!
Great work brother! Love my Rock Chucker Supreme. Never thought i could shoot so accurately.
I can't even imagine how awkward this would be if they were all mounted on a low bench!
Thanks for all the effort to accumulate all the data in this review. Excellent work.
Thank you for the AMAZINGLY detailed video. I was taught Benchrest shooting/reloading by a gentleman with knowledge like yourself. We try to reload to the level of psychosis. This video is so detailed that anyone can understand the tolerances of these presses ... The time you took for this video is greatly appreciated.
Very impressive review!
Excellent review, a lot of thought and hard work went into this video, I’m sure every reloader that rolls their own ammo greatly appreciates your effort in bringing us this review. Hopefully one day you might look at reviewing Turret presses . Cheers 🥂 🍻
I was very impressed with your public speaking and the tests. A job well done.
Well..... I always knew that my rock chucker was not holding me back. Trying to tell that to others was a hard task sometimes. A lot of people simply think because the Co Ax cost more it was superior. The rock chucker scored the best in a couple and really as good as any and better than most across the board.
I really thought the MEC would score better in runout.
Also next sometime someone says I’m not a “serious reloaded” until I get a Co-ax I’m going to hit them with this article 😝.
ultimatereloader.com/2019/04/08/fourteen-reloading-presses-compared-single-stage-shootout/15/
I think a comparison on dies would be very interesting. I’m willing to bet that results would be very similar and that more money does not always mean better results. Thanks for the comparison.
Yeah, I was surprised that the Rock Chucker Supreme almost matched the Präzipress in precision!
I use a rock chucker that was my dad's from over 30 years ago and it kicks ass. Back when it was made in the US.
I was apprehensive before watching the video because I didn't want to buy a new press... fortunately can keep my rock chucker!
I've watched this video five times. Very informative.
Can you do the same with turret presses? That would be awsome! Greate video btw👍
Yes, I would definitely like to...
Wow! This guy really is the Ultimate Reloader.
Extraordinary, preparation was well beyond expectations and extremely well thought out......spell binding and suspenseful waiting to see the data results. This is a new standard of excellence in making comparisons between reloading presses. Thank you very much.
Wow, thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it!
Definitely the best video I've found over single stage presses, really appreciate the time you put into this!
Thanks Kenneth!
Excellent video. Very well filmed. Very well explained. Very well presented. Using only facts instead of opinions. All test very well performed. Great summary of results. Obviously a lot of work put in.
Single Stage Porn? Raise the RAM to the top of the Stroke? Sorry, I just couldn't stop.
You put a massive amount of effort in producing this video!! What a wealth of information you shared. Thank you!! This helped me make my decision on my next press. Stay well.
I have a fairly broad collection of mechanical reloading scales and mechanical powder measures I would love to do testing like this between them all. Or have you do it.
Very good work!
Good idea Glen!
Very informative. Thanks for all the hard work!
Mike Bolton you are welcome!
Gavin I love this. I would love to see next a Scale VS Electric Scale powder/load comparison. Like something that puts the charges thrown and weighed against one another compares Muzzle velocity, SD, & ES. I say this b/c I have went from using the RCBS Charge master back to throwing and my old RCBS 5-10 scale with the roller wheel for the tenths. With the Charge Master my 6.5 Creedmoor loads running Berger bullets and H4350 I was getting SD of 2.5-5.0 which is really good for what I do. Now having not ran the loads weighed out by my scale over my Magneto Speed V3 and loading the very same specs I'm wondering if I'll get the same results. Would be cool to watch. Thanks
Nice test, thanks for taking the time to do this.
I made popcorn for this!
Awesome
I sure do hats off to you and all that create such in depth and great great videos….Thanks
I know whats the next shoot out.... Brass prep machines!
Fantastic video. The amount of work and precision involved is so impressive. Thank you.
Thanks Randall!
I'm a long time fan.
I really want to start reloading 223 & 300 blackout. I'm overwhelmed with all the info on the internet. Do you have a getting started buyers guide line up that would help newbies get started with single presses that would lead to turret presses as we progress with our skills and confidence Any help for "dummies" is appreciated. Thank You, Sir.
Still today your well prepared data has helped me and my son make an informed decision on what type and brand of press is not only good in quality but precision in accuracy thanks
That's an insane and insanely helpful amount of work, awesome. Thank you for it.
Good job mate. Love the attention to detail. I'm a winemaker so I love the focus on minutia.
Thanks Andrew!
Outstanding video. What else can I say? I'm reading your full write up now. Great info. Relevant and very clearly presented. Nicely done. Thank you.
THX!!!
I like the Tip TIR tables especially. They show that the best TIRs are not turned in by the highest price presses. The RCBS ones turn in the most consistent TIRs. Careful comparison of all 14 tables will indicate that TIR is controlled by the uniformity of the brass cases more than any of the presses or dies.
Excellent overview of all the presses
Impressive research as always. I did not expect Rock Chucker to be ranked #2.
Me too ! But I guess that German engineered $900.00 dollar press had better do something !!!
Joe D right?!
@@joed2392: Yeah...I watched this whole thing just to see where the RC Supreme came in. I figured it would place in the top three. I've had mine for about ten years and couldn't be happier!
Wow, that's a lot of work you did!
Yes, I'm soooo tired of looking at the computer! :)
@@Ultimatereloader Lol, no doubt!
Great job and a lot of work putting this together. I have had my old Bonanza since 1972, it has been consistent for near 50 years. Probably reloaded 9-10,000 rounds. Still right on the money. RCBS dies, bench rest and hunting calibres, it does them all. Again, great video.
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would have been awesome to also see turret presses in this comparison - like the T7...
From Portugal. Thank you for your videos. They are all amazing and we can learn a lot. However, I would like to see a specific video charging the caliber 6 mm Norma BR and .308 WIN, from the beginning to the end, made with the best Dies for BR.
Very well organized and thought thru presentation. Thank you for your outstanding work in doing this.
Considering My shooting ability, buying that last press would be like hiring NASA to fix a Crop Duster.
John Parrish hahahaha- that’s funny :)
LMAO!
@Mike Good Lord Man, I was trying to be humorous, it must have gone right over your head.
If I need that level of precision I will just use a set of Arbor Press dies.
@C-Bomb ...as a master toolmaker I usually put my high dollar precision Starrett, Brown & Sharp or Swiss indicators that read in fifty millionth of an inch on my RCBS or Lee loaders and make just as precision rounds as his. Plus I get to use those indicators at work making top pay which is money better spent and saved for magazines or ammo products.
Thanks for such an exhaustively researched video. You do the work so we don't have to and we get to benefit and grow from it.
Thank you. Very informative and useful, unlike most RUclips stuff.
I think non-floating is better than floating because floating parts can misalign if the parts are not machined extremely precisely. The Forster co-ax depends on the die locking ring being machined so the ring flats are exactly 90 degrees to the center-line.
I don't like to de-prime in the press due to all the junk that come out. I use a small arbor press with a dedicated de-priming pin.. And I use a hand primer tool because it gives much better feel than in-press priming.
Do you have any data or experience that would indicate the lock-n-load bushing produces precision equal to 7/8 x 14 bushings?
Outstanding article. Very comprehensive and detailed.
Thanks Bruce!
Agree ... This is a monumental contribution to the reloading community. Many
thank you's to all your hard work, and analytical approach to your analysis.
Thanks Paul- it was SOOOOO much work, I'm so happy that people are getting a lot out of it :)
@@Ultimatereloader Take a rest you deserve it :-)
The Rock Chucker Supreme primer catcher actually only funnels to one side even tho it looks like it should, you take that back plate off and see for your self
Now that's interesting!!! I'll take a look...
Wow the work that went into this test is incredible. The best reload channel on the web easily.
Thanks Gavin
Epic video but the conclusion was not unexpected. There are subtle differences for the most part. Not surprising that the Forster would be a great pick. Benchrest shooters and military snipers have been using it for a long time. I have it and I feel is probably the best choice one could make also due to the super easy die swap. It’s really the most convenient
Hi Gavin...fantastic analysis!
I can see where you are questioning the value of "float" based upon your analysis, I am looking forward to what you will come up with here. But an even bigger question I now have based upon your data is the accuracy hit with the LnL system. The data you have shows the Hornady presses at the bottom of the list. Do you think this is due to the LnL system or to the flex in the Hornady presses or something else?
I would be very interested in your viewpoint here!
Thanks again!
Thanks teacher. Great videos. Rookie student reloader here.
Got the rcbs rock chucker supreme after watching this vid thanks good job 👍
Good deal, great press!
Awesome info Gavin. You are definitely loaded with great ideas and info. My respect to you brother.
Would you do a review on the Redding Ultra Mag?
I am thinking it might be one of the most precise presses available, but you have actually had hands on with so many presses that I would really like your review.
I think I have seen this video like 10 times now 😅👍
Great job Gavin. Thanks for all your hard, intense work.
Wow, totally nerded out but that's not a bad thing. Lots of comprehensive work went into this, and it will be very valuable for new reloaders or people choosing their first new press. Very imPRESSive ;)
Great breakdown!
Sad to see the prices mentioned no longer reflect >.
Best video, answered all my question about single stage press. Ever thought about doing a video turret press
Very well done! Watching the Prasipress section was like sinking my teeth into an aged and marbled steak. Savored it bro!
Best comment of the month!!!!!
You’re killing me!!! I’ve been waiting on this video forever and you don’t give a top three or top five rating 😭
Also didn't include Dillon...
toadamine Dillon makes a single stage?
@@21anthem12 yes, and they do all the steps in one pull... Just like the automatic ones...
And no overview of the quality of the ammo produced! Why not include that data when you took so much trouble to compile it and ultimately it's the most valuable data of all????????
@@toadamine Dillon doesnt make a single stage press. This test was specifically for single stage.
Oh my gosh, it's finally here! I'm so excited. 😁
After 25 plus years of loading for competition and cartridge design, I have to say I like the RCBS Summit.
I have 2 of them, one with long handle and the other with the short handle option.
In total, I have 7 presses including Redding, Dillion, RCBS and Harrells.
As usual, outstanding job!
I would see a press, hear you talk about it and then think,”yeah, that’s the one I want!” Until the next press! LOL
Great time to be a reloader , great presses at every price level. Hard to go wrong with any, but think I’m going with the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme.
Thanks for your hard work!
You are welcome Jerry, glad you liked it!
Jerry, I have a used RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme for sale. Interested?
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@@robertvarner7392 Did you sell it?
Just purchased and setup a Frankford Arsenal M-Press. Your comment about the whether or not "float" is a good thing really caught me attention. The FA press's proprietary die holders has way too much front to back float. What I've found is that in order to get the shell holder to release the cartridge (I'm loading 9mm using the small setting) you almost have to slam the ram down to he bottom in order to release the grip on the cartridge. When you do this the die holder slides too far out (float?) and catches the edge of the next cartridge no matter how slow or easy I pull on the handle. I found a "bailing wire and chewing gum" fix by wedging a small magnet between the edge of the die opening and the die holder. Although the die holder is aluminum, the magnet is strong enough to latch onto the press frame and keeps the die holder from sliding out. Maybe as the press gets used more (broken in) it will not take so much force to get the shell holder to release cartridges and I will not have to use as much force as I do now. I will say though that once I got the dies set up and "fixed" the float issue, this press is very fast and efficient to use.