You deserve some type of award for putting the most preparation time into a single video. Appreciate all the detail you've gathered and put out there for us. For 40 years I've had just one single stage press on my bench that has never left me wanting more. Your research suggests there is good reason for my being content! Thanks Gavin.
bought my Rockchucker in 1975 has been on many benches since the 1st day, it loads 55 different calibers and has never once let me think about any other press, i think I still have the bill of sale
Wow! I hope people can appreciate just how much work, time and thought was put into this video! The custom tools to measure and compare, the ways you decided to have direct comparisons and tests is a true testament to how dedicated Gavin is. Great video brother this was awesome, now comes the difficult part of choosing one....
I bought my Lee 50 cal press 2 weeks to early dang it!!! The only reason I got it was for the bigger thread pattern for the neck only 338 die now I know many others have that pattern too if you remove the bushing....
Tonight...I bought the Redding Big Boss 2 Pro Reloading Kit for < $400. I thought, at these turbulent Times... Why not, get into reloading. NOW, if I can only find bullets,primers,& POWDER...Really appreciated the MOST through evaluation of the majority if not all single stage presses for at least this novice to hand loading. THANK YOU..
It is three years later. After watching your review of 14 reloading presses, I purchased the RCBS Summit reloading press. I went one step further by buying Hornady's Lock-N-Load Die Bushing 3-pack kit making die change over KISS! The RCBS Summit press is GREAT!
Wow! Gavin has been creating great reloading RUclips videos for a decade! Yet, his presentation and content always seems fresh and informative! No One! And I mean No One, is working this hard to keep us up to date like this guy! Thanks for all your effort, bud! This beer 🍺 is for you!
All I have to say is I've owned a Rock Chucker since the early very 80's. It has supplied ammo thru 30 years of National Match shooting, IPSC & PPS, hunting & plinking loads and is now turning out rounds for my PRS endeavor's including suppling all my friends and relatives with ammo in our current shortage. I can't come close to estimating how many rounds have passed thru that press but let's average it at 2000 rounds a year and subtract 10,000 in case anyone thinks I'm full of it. When I started shooting PRS I considered replacing it so being an engineer I broke out my measuring tools. I primarily concentrated on bore alignment, squareness and ram runout because there is plenty of float in the shell holder. Long story short at full ram extension there was only .0006 (6 ten thousandth's) runout in the ram. Squareness and alignment was spot on, less than .001" which was easily compensated for by the shell holder and I pulled out some loaded ammo and checked the runout in the ogive of the bullet. Most fell within .002" which I found to be variations in neck thickness of the brass and at least half of that was just over .001". I keep her clean and well lubed and needless to say I believe she will continue to crank out ammo for me for the rest of my years. Quality and performance like that speaks for itself.
I found one owned by old war vet that was sitting on the ground rusted solid… the old lady said 10$ ??? I took the offer and it’s my primary reloading press , after cleaning and reassembly …. Redding loader is sitting idle …. Might be in my mind but the Rcbs old dog has mojo and I don’t want to mess with that….. found was a yard sale and saw it laying on the ground of garage
After I ditched my Rockchucker for a Forster Co-ax about 20 years ago, reloading went from something I had to do, to something I wanted to do. Nothing wrong with the Rockchucker, but it's a basic tool that isn't particularly user friendly. Don't get me wrong, I loaded a ton of ammo on that old green machine, but I sure was much happier once I upgraded. I passed the old press onto a newbie that was just getting started who has put it to good use, and you couldn't pay me to go back.
@@lagoonrd4173You ditched better press for some broken (rusting on something as precise as press basically means its broken) randomly found junk? You are crazy.
Thank You! I picked up an RCBS Summit because of the information you gave in the video and the Full Story. Works perfect and is much better then my other press.
Agree ... This is a monumental contribution to the reloading community. Many thank you's to all your hard work, and analytical approach to your analysis.
Incredible! Your attention to detail is amazing. You engineering background is very evident. If ever there was a case of too many choices this is it. It’s almost as bad as choosing a rifle scope. You obviously enjoy what you do. I’m happy to be the recipient of your extremely comprehensive effort and hard work. Thank you.
What an absolutely insane amount of work, expense and time. Great job! I am a competitive bench rest shooter and plinking shooter and anything that goes bang shooter. Hell I shoot rubber bands too. I love reloading. I have made ammo since 15 years old and I am 65. The plethora of tools is a blessing for us, but it is confusing even for me! I have several of the old Star reloaders as my primary tools. This needed to be done so badly. Thanks for a great job! Great analysis! So many people don’t understand reloading at all. They surly are mesmerized by all the equipment. Your recommendations tell people that good ammo can be made with all the presses. And match grade can be made with most of them. I think this will be the definitive reloading tooling video!
Thank you for the AMAZINGLY detailed video. I was taught Benchrest shooting/reloading by a gentleman with knowledge like yourself. We try to reload to the level of psychosis. This video is so detailed that anyone can understand the tolerances of these presses ... The time you took for this video is greatly appreciated.
There needs to be another Academy Award category for Best Reloading Product Showcase/Shootout (wouldn't the libs go nuts for that one?!). Gavin, thank you for all of the money spent and incredible effort and thought that went into this masterpiece! I watched it twice 😁. I am favoring the RCBS Supreme, but it is clear through this video that there are a few machines that are extremely good alternatives; each for their own reasons. I know that I weigh in pretty late, but I just wanted to say 'good job'!
Like always you go extremely deeply in your reviews and again precisely mesure and analyse, I did not know witch press I was going to get, I will get the RCBS Summit Thanks for the good video and all the work put into it as a professional
Re: your comment at 30:18. I've noticed when using the Rockchucker compared to a few other similar presses that where the linkage connects to the bottom of the ram there is a lot of sideways float. This means that any sideways force on the press handle during the stroke is not transferred to the ram. I can wobble the handle on my Rockchucker and the ram doesn't move. I had a Redding press previously and i could see the ram move with sideways pressure on the handle.
Impressive, and no doubt when someone ask me again "which press should I buy for precision reloading?" I'll send them right here. Thanks for the massive work involved.
Great job and a lot of work putting this together. I have had my old Bonanza since 1972, it has been consistent for near 50 years. Probably reloaded 9-10,000 rounds. Still right on the money. RCBS dies, bench rest and hunting calibres, it does them all. Again, great video.
The content was fantastic + the overall audio/video quality, lighting, and the lens camera combo you used was amazing. The overall time it took you to produce the final cut must have been considerable. Whoever did your editing gets a thumbs up also. Learned a lot to look for in single stage press reloading.
WOW !!!! I'm going to purchase my 3rd press (2nd singe stage) which I will use for 6.5 creedmore, and I appreciate the detail you give with each review !!!! All said and done, I'm going with the Redding Big Boss II. I enjoy all of your video's Dude....you Rock !!!
You had me at RCBS Summit! LOL!! Great video and only feedback is it would have been nice to have your top 5 presses results at the end as this is a long video. Very very informative though!
Excellent review, a lot of thought and hard work went into this video, I’m sure every reloader that rolls their own ammo greatly appreciates your effort in bringing us this review. Hopefully one day you might look at reviewing Turret presses . Cheers 🥂 🍻
Kissing bug crawling on the ball mic stand begins at 21.52 Seroiusly the most awesome video I have waited 5 yrs for one like this! I am finally ordering my press and ancillary equipment ! Thanks Sooo Much Gavin! Subbed for life!
Extraordinary, preparation was well beyond expectations and extremely well thought out......spell binding and suspenseful waiting to see the data results. This is a new standard of excellence in making comparisons between reloading presses. Thank you very much.
I am impressed with the quality of your research and the content of your review of all the single stage Presses. Still running the Lee, reloading 308Win but on to an RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme, will be my first choice for new press for 2019.
From Portugal. Thank you for your videos. They are all amazing and we can learn a lot. However, I would like to see a specific video charging the caliber 6 mm Norma BR and .308 WIN, from the beginning to the end, made with the best Dies for BR.
Well Done! My old Herters C press is still running alongside my much upgraded Dillon 650. The massive Herters press has served me well for 30 plus years but that last press you showed has me thinking of buying it.
Gavin thank you for this video!!! You really outdid yourself. This is great information and it's current and relevant. I like that you explained features in addition to performance. Thank you
Thank you. Very informative and useful, unlike most RUclips stuff. I think non-floating is better than floating because floating parts can misalign if the parts are not machined extremely precisely. The Forster co-ax depends on the die locking ring being machined so the ring flats are exactly 90 degrees to the center-line. I don't like to de-prime in the press due to all the junk that come out. I use a small arbor press with a dedicated de-priming pin.. And I use a hand primer tool because it gives much better feel than in-press priming. Do you have any data or experience that would indicate the lock-n-load bushing produces precision equal to 7/8 x 14 bushings?
Wow, totally nerded out but that's not a bad thing. Lots of comprehensive work went into this, and it will be very valuable for new reloaders or people choosing their first new press. Very imPRESSive ;)
WOW You are OCD. In the very best way possible. Thank you so very much. I always look forward to your wonderful reviews. Thank you again so much for your hard work and dedication to our craft.
It has been almost 2 years since this was posted and I still can't believe 173 people "disliked" it! This was an extreme amount of work! I find that I refer back to this (and other people to it) a lot! Thanks for all you do for the reloading community.
@@TheSuburban15 His tests were fair and well done. He gave a well-balanced report / review. He posted the written results in a link. It is up to the viewers to pick and buy, not the Y.T. tester / video maker. This was not some 3 am Info-mercial with a paid audience clapping for the newest make-up or frying pan. IF he had made a "real conclusion" as you said, then there would be at least 10 people whining and complaining and crying because he did not tell everyone to buy a Dillon machine.
@@joed2392: Yeah...I watched this whole thing just to see where the RC Supreme came in. I figured it would place in the top three. I've had mine for about ten years and couldn't be happier!
I have reloaded for some 50 years or so. Still use the RCBS Rock Chucker - 2 that my wife and kids gave me. Super press. Never found anything it would not do. Or do well. Thanks for the video and work to put it together...
Gavin, Your presentation style and unbiased, data driven analysis is refreshing and outstanding. It's not just the enormous time & effort, but the incredible process & data driven thought put into making this video. A large part of my career was speaking to experts at several top (Ivy league & similar) universities, then evaluating people, processes & products fairly for some very large, well respected organizations, using data to provide people information so they could choose to (or not) be better at what they do, whether it was designing new products, refining processes, or improving individual behaviors, knowledge & skills. You exemplify this approach. I stumbled across this video by accident. After watching the entire video, I wanted to compliment you for sharing your work & information. You deserve FAR more views & subscribers. Liked & subscribed. Now, range time!
Excellent video, I really enjoyed the finer points of your reloading. I have been reloading for years, I shoot several same calibre rifles, 303. I did at one time neck size only and not mixing each fire formed case with another. I later gave up this idea and factory resize all my fired cases. After resizing, measuring and trimming I anneal the cases every 5 times fired. I also find beam scales more accurate than battery or electric scales. I also find powder throwers inaccurate too as with the dippers too. Reloading is to each others choice and providing one takes care with powders and powder loads recommended by the manufacture one will avoid accidents. I shoot in the field and on military ranges, I also shoot on our local village range where velocity and energy are limited.
I always wondered about the RCBS Summit, looked like a great concept and the results show it is a strong contender. Thanks Gavin for this video and your comprehensive report will stand the test of time. But it didnt help my wallet so thanks!?!?!
Brother, you’re the reason I bought a Hornady Iron Press! It is an impressive machine. And, of course, I invested in all of the Inline Fabrication products that go with the Iron Press. Life is short, so why not?
Excellent video. Very well filmed. Very well explained. Very well presented. Using only facts instead of opinions. All test very well performed. Great summary of results. Obviously a lot of work put in.
And no overview of the quality of the ammo produced! Why not include that data when you took so much trouble to compile it and ultimately it's the most valuable data of all????????
I have chosen to start down the path of re-loading. This is by far, the most helpful video and article for beginners as well as long time re-loaders. Thank youfor your hard work. Love this channel.
I have a fairly broad collection of mechanical reloading scales and mechanical powder measures I would love to do testing like this between them all. Or have you do it. Very good work!
Awesome Work Dude !!! Gavin, I've got a RCBS Rock-Chucker that I have used for 45+ years !! I keep it well oiled, she's as tight as the day I bought her ! That big honk'n cast iron O - Frame and concentric ram is machined to an extremely fine tolerance . And she's still got all that beautiful green paint too, not a single chip ! It's going to be a hand me down, for sure ! And if you ever do a progressive Smack-Down, see if you can find an old tuned-up RCBS Green Machine in .38spl .... I can still remember one of the R.O.'s at the T.G. range way down in Dade County, Fla, cranking out thousands of .38 wad cutters on that press ! Also Brings back to mind, that smell of pounds of Bullseye being burned up every hour when the wind was out of the west !! lol
I like the Tip TIR tables especially. They show that the best TIRs are not turned in by the highest price presses. The RCBS ones turn in the most consistent TIRs. Careful comparison of all 14 tables will indicate that TIR is controlled by the uniformity of the brass cases more than any of the presses or dies.
Thank you for taking the time to put together a very understandable shootout. You saved me a lot of time and effort on which press I might purchase. I was able to narrow my choice down to two or three and can focus on those as to which I would purchase. Great info
Gavin I love this. I would love to see next a Scale VS Electric Scale powder/load comparison. Like something that puts the charges thrown and weighed against one another compares Muzzle velocity, SD, & ES. I say this b/c I have went from using the RCBS Charge master back to throwing and my old RCBS 5-10 scale with the roller wheel for the tenths. With the Charge Master my 6.5 Creedmoor loads running Berger bullets and H4350 I was getting SD of 2.5-5.0 which is really good for what I do. Now having not ran the loads weighed out by my scale over my Magneto Speed V3 and loading the very same specs I'm wondering if I'll get the same results. Would be cool to watch. Thanks
Wow, incredibly thorough review of single-stage presses. Also, per your testing, I now know that I do not need to consider replacing my beloved RCBS Rock Chucker press that I have been using for a long time. The RCBS Summit reminds me of the Star Machine Works Reloaders that a couple of my VERY OLD reloader buddies used.
For those interested in the RCBS Summit Press, don't waste your money on it. I purchased the press, loaded less than 400 round and broke the press. The weakness of the press is the part where the handle screws into, called the toggle in the instructions manual. The toggle is machined thin and will break over a short time from the pressures of using the machine to resize brass. Trying to get a replacement part, but who knows when that will come in. Now looking to purchase a new press (maybe the Redding or the Forster) and possibly just use the Summit Press for seating bullets or just sell it.
@@jonzie1228 mine is the org one, first model I think, and I have loaded hundreds of rounds on it every year for over 40 years and it is still chucking along.
I was just using my ol chucker the other night wondering if anything was improved on the newer ones or are the old ones made better like most things these days
Great video! It helped me decide to purchase a Lyman Ideal for reloading .38/.357. I Was a little disappointed that the Lee Breech Lock Reloader Single Stage wasn't included since it is by far the most economical press available, and it would have been interesting to see how it stacks up against the other simple basic presses.
Excellent detail which I really appreciate. Would love to see your top 3 favorites from this. Great data, but it’s hard as a newbie to know from all this info which way to go.
Have a friend who has several reloading systems and presses that he has acquired over the better part of 50 years in reloading. Some he has taken with him when he was overseas and ammo was hard to find in some duty stations. Not sure what his favorite is as he has a Bunker that consist of four conex containers together around a central shaft so he can access them from a central point. one container is larger than the others and the ceiling in it is 10 foot? He says it allows him more freedom for some projects. He reloads everything from Pistol, Rifle to Shotgun and even some cannon round for his Toys.
Hi Gavin...fantastic analysis! I can see where you are questioning the value of "float" based upon your analysis, I am looking forward to what you will come up with here. But an even bigger question I now have based upon your data is the accuracy hit with the LnL system. The data you have shows the Hornady presses at the bottom of the list. Do you think this is due to the LnL system or to the flex in the Hornady presses or something else? I would be very interested in your viewpoint here! Thanks again!
I have settled on the Redding T7 Turret Press. I stack additional turret heads with dies already loaded and set for all my reloading calibers from pistol to rifle. I use an aftermarket handle and stand.
I'm a long time fan. I really want to start reloading 223 & 300 blackout. I'm overwhelmed with all the info on the internet. Do you have a getting started buyers guide line up that would help newbies get started with single presses that would lead to turret presses as we progress with our skills and confidence Any help for "dummies" is appreciated. Thank You, Sir.
Gavin - You did a great job on what was surely a monumental task. I'm curious if you think that the presses that had floating dies or shellholders would have a problem with breaking decapping pins?
After 25 plus years of loading for competition and cartridge design, I have to say I like the RCBS Summit. I have 2 of them, one with long handle and the other with the short handle option. In total, I have 7 presses including Redding, Dillion, RCBS and Harrells.
Gavin, You know the only issue with setting the bar this high, is that the requests for this level of analysis with other tools is going to start flooding in! Lol Like a similar video involving turret press analysis. Or single stages presses not mentioned in this video like the Redding UltraMag or the RCBS AmmoMaster. Wait, did I just do that? Ugh, sorry my man! Lol. Thanks again!
You deserve some type of award for putting the most preparation time into a single video. Appreciate all the detail you've gathered and put out there for us. For 40 years I've had just one single stage press on my bench that has never left me wanting more. Your research suggests there is good reason for my being content! Thanks Gavin.
bought my Rockchucker in 1975 has been on many benches since the 1st day, it loads 55 different calibers and has never once let me think about any other press, i think I still have the bill of sale
Wow! I hope people can appreciate just how much work, time and thought was put into this video! The custom tools to measure and compare, the ways you decided to have direct comparisons and tests is a true testament to how dedicated Gavin is. Great video brother this was awesome, now comes the difficult part of choosing one....
I bought my Lee 50 cal press 2 weeks to early dang it!!! The only reason I got it was for the bigger thread pattern for the neck only 338 die now I know many others have that pattern too if you remove the bushing....
Chris
@@chris3383 Iv got a old Hurder its in good shape its very heavy.
Tonight...I bought the Redding Big Boss 2 Pro Reloading Kit for < $400. I thought, at these turbulent Times... Why not, get into reloading. NOW, if I can only find bullets,primers,& POWDER...Really appreciated the MOST through evaluation of the majority if not all single stage presses for at least this novice to hand loading. THANK YOU..
it's his job. it's just a show and he probably has a crew helping him.
It is three years later. After watching your review of 14 reloading presses, I purchased the RCBS Summit reloading press. I went one step further by buying Hornady's Lock-N-Load Die Bushing 3-pack kit making die change over KISS! The RCBS Summit press is GREAT!
Wow! Gavin has been creating great reloading RUclips videos for a decade! Yet, his presentation and content always seems fresh and informative! No One! And I mean No One, is working this hard to keep us up to date like this guy! Thanks for all your effort, bud! This beer 🍺 is for you!
Bacnow Thanks!!!!!
I'm just getting into reloading and wow so much to take in I really appreciate what you do brother!!!
The absolute best video I've ever viewed on reloading engineering specs.
All I have to say is I've owned a Rock Chucker since the early very 80's. It has supplied ammo thru 30 years of National Match shooting, IPSC & PPS, hunting & plinking loads and is now turning out rounds for my PRS endeavor's including suppling all my friends and relatives with ammo in our current shortage. I can't come close to estimating how many rounds have passed thru that press but let's average it at 2000 rounds a year and subtract 10,000 in case anyone thinks I'm full of it. When I started shooting PRS I considered replacing it so being an engineer I broke out my measuring tools. I primarily concentrated on bore alignment, squareness and ram runout because there is plenty of float in the shell holder. Long story short at full ram extension there was only .0006 (6 ten thousandth's) runout in the ram. Squareness and alignment was spot on, less than .001" which was easily compensated for by the shell holder and I pulled out some loaded ammo and checked the runout in the ogive of the bullet. Most fell within .002" which I found to be variations in neck thickness of the brass and at least half of that was just over .001". I keep her clean and well lubed and needless to say I believe she will continue to crank out ammo for me for the rest of my years. Quality and performance like that speaks for itself.
I found one owned by old war vet that was sitting on the ground rusted solid… the old lady said 10$ ??? I took the offer and it’s my primary reloading press , after cleaning and reassembly …. Redding loader is sitting idle …. Might be in my mind but the Rcbs old dog has mojo and I don’t want to mess with that….. found was a yard sale and saw it laying on the ground of garage
After I ditched my Rockchucker for a Forster Co-ax about 20 years ago, reloading went from something I had to do, to something I wanted to do. Nothing wrong with the Rockchucker, but it's a basic tool that isn't particularly user friendly. Don't get me wrong, I loaded a ton of ammo on that old green machine, but I sure was much happier once I upgraded. I passed the old press onto a newbie that was just getting started who has put it to good use, and you couldn't pay me to go back.
What primers do u prefer to use for .308 win? Any specifics. With the primeaggedon going on I'm trying to be sure I get the right s$%#
@HockeyDad6631 I'm tempted to get one. I got it rounded down to either the rockchucker or the co ax
@@lagoonrd4173You ditched better press for some broken (rusting on something as precise as press basically means its broken) randomly found junk? You are crazy.
Thank You! I picked up an RCBS Summit because of the information you gave in the video and the Full Story. Works perfect and is much better then my other press.
Agree ... This is a monumental contribution to the reloading community. Many
thank you's to all your hard work, and analytical approach to your analysis.
Thanks Paul- it was SOOOOO much work, I'm so happy that people are getting a lot out of it :)
@@Ultimatereloader Take a rest you deserve it :-)
Your finest work to date. Thank you for all your time and effort.
Incredible! Your attention to detail is amazing. You engineering background is very evident. If ever there was a case of too many choices this is it. It’s almost as bad as choosing a rifle scope. You obviously enjoy what you do. I’m happy to be the recipient of your extremely comprehensive effort and hard work. Thank you.
Thanks so much Bruce!!!
What an absolutely insane amount of work, expense and time. Great job!
I am a competitive bench rest shooter and plinking shooter and anything that goes bang shooter. Hell I shoot rubber bands too. I love reloading. I have made ammo since 15 years old and I am 65. The plethora of tools is a blessing for us, but it is confusing even for me! I have several of the old Star reloaders as my primary tools. This needed to be done so badly. Thanks for a great job!
Great analysis! So many people don’t understand reloading at all. They surly are mesmerized by all the equipment. Your recommendations tell people that good ammo can be made with all the presses. And match grade can be made with most of them.
I think this will be the definitive reloading tooling video!
Thank you for the AMAZINGLY detailed video. I was taught Benchrest shooting/reloading by a gentleman with knowledge like yourself. We try to reload to the level of psychosis. This video is so detailed that anyone can understand the tolerances of these presses ... The time you took for this video is greatly appreciated.
A lot of hard work put into this one, thanks for all the great information!
There needs to be another Academy Award category for Best Reloading Product Showcase/Shootout (wouldn't the libs go nuts for that one?!). Gavin, thank you for all of the money spent and incredible effort and thought that went into this masterpiece! I watched it twice 😁. I am favoring the RCBS Supreme, but it is clear through this video that there are a few machines that are extremely good alternatives; each for their own reasons. I know that I weigh in pretty late, but I just wanted to say 'good job'!
Like always you go extremely deeply in your reviews and again precisely mesure and analyse, I did not know witch press I was going to get, I will get the RCBS Summit
Thanks for the good video and all the work put into it as a professional
Wow the work that went into this test is incredible. The best reload channel on the web easily.
Thanks Gavin
Re: your comment at 30:18. I've noticed when using the Rockchucker compared to a few other similar presses that where the linkage connects to the bottom of the ram there is a lot of sideways float.
This means that any sideways force on the press handle during the stroke is not transferred to the ram. I can wobble the handle on my Rockchucker and the ram doesn't move. I had a Redding press previously and i could see the ram move with sideways pressure on the handle.
Impressive, and no doubt when someone ask me again "which press should I buy for precision reloading?" I'll send them right here. Thanks for the massive work involved.
THANKS!
Just watched this video an ordered my first press. Thank you for the work you put in!
That's an insane and insanely helpful amount of work, awesome. Thank you for it.
BLOODY FANTASTIC EFFORT on your part, greatly appreciated !!
147k subscribers only, with all the hard work you do, you should be over a million long time ago.
Gavin, I have been waiting for this video since you first mentioned it. Let me say this, You did not disappoint. Wonderful job on this video.
THANKS!!!
Very well done covering a wide range of presses. Can’t wait to dig into the report. Thanks for doing this Gavin
I respect how much work and resorces that you've put into this. This video is truly a service. Thank you and your group!
Great job and a lot of work putting this together. I have had my old Bonanza since 1972, it has been consistent for near 50 years. Probably reloaded 9-10,000 rounds. Still right on the money. RCBS dies, bench rest and hunting calibres, it does them all. Again, great video.
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You are an excellent tester and I appreciate what you have accomplished here. It will be a huge help in my choosing a reloading press.
The content was fantastic + the overall audio/video quality, lighting, and the lens camera combo you used was amazing. The overall time it took you to produce the final cut must have been considerable. Whoever did your editing gets a thumbs up also. Learned a lot to look for in single stage press reloading.
Thanks Rolo- I think I have about 100 hours into it, and I did all of the editing myself, I need to learn how to delegate more... :)
WOW !!!! I'm going to purchase my 3rd press (2nd singe stage) which I will use for 6.5 creedmore, and I appreciate the detail you give with each review !!!! All said and done, I'm going with the Redding Big Boss II. I enjoy all of your video's Dude....you Rock !!!
Thank you for all the hard work you put into this. I am brand new to reloading and this has helped me narrow it down.
You had me at RCBS Summit! LOL!! Great video and only feedback is it would have been nice to have your top 5 presses results at the end as this is a long video. Very very informative though!
Excellent review, a lot of thought and hard work went into this video, I’m sure every reloader that rolls their own ammo greatly appreciates your effort in bringing us this review. Hopefully one day you might look at reviewing Turret presses . Cheers 🥂 🍻
Kissing bug crawling on the ball mic stand begins at 21.52 Seroiusly the most awesome video I have waited 5 yrs for one like this! I am finally ordering my press and ancillary equipment ! Thanks Sooo Much Gavin! Subbed for life!
So much you do for us re-loaders! Thanks so much!
You are welcome, glad you are finding these resources useful :)
Extraordinary, preparation was well beyond expectations and extremely well thought out......spell binding and suspenseful waiting to see the data results. This is a new standard of excellence in making comparisons between reloading presses. Thank you very much.
Wow, thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it!
Great video. I've been loading for almost 30 years and i still watched the whole video! 😁
Man, one hell of a video. I can only imagine how much work it took to put this together. Well done!
I am impressed with the quality of your research and the content of your review of all the single stage Presses. Still running the Lee, reloading 308Win but on to an RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme, will be my first choice for new press for 2019.
Thanks man!
From Portugal. Thank you for your videos. They are all amazing and we can learn a lot. However, I would like to see a specific video charging the caliber 6 mm Norma BR and .308 WIN, from the beginning to the end, made with the best Dies for BR.
Well Done! My old Herters C press is still running alongside my much upgraded Dillon 650. The massive Herters press has served me well for 30 plus years but that last press you showed has me thinking of buying it.
I made popcorn for this!
Awesome
Excellent video and comparison, exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you!
Best video, answered all my question about single stage press. Ever thought about doing a video turret press
The Inline Fab stuff is brilliant. Just got my Ultamount last week.
Gavin thank you for this video!!! You really outdid yourself. This is great information and it's current and relevant. I like that you explained features in addition to performance. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent video. Concise, pertinent information, and well presented. Well done!!!
Thank you. Very informative and useful, unlike most RUclips stuff.
I think non-floating is better than floating because floating parts can misalign if the parts are not machined extremely precisely. The Forster co-ax depends on the die locking ring being machined so the ring flats are exactly 90 degrees to the center-line.
I don't like to de-prime in the press due to all the junk that come out. I use a small arbor press with a dedicated de-priming pin.. And I use a hand primer tool because it gives much better feel than in-press priming.
Do you have any data or experience that would indicate the lock-n-load bushing produces precision equal to 7/8 x 14 bushings?
Great methodology in testing, phenomenal review. Keep up the great work
Thanks!
Wow, totally nerded out but that's not a bad thing. Lots of comprehensive work went into this, and it will be very valuable for new reloaders or people choosing their first new press. Very imPRESSive ;)
WOW You are OCD. In the very best way possible. Thank you so very much. I always look forward to your wonderful reviews.
Thank you again so much for your hard work and dedication to our craft.
It has been almost 2 years since this was posted and I still can't believe 173 people "disliked" it! This was an extreme amount of work! I find that I refer back to this (and other people to it) a lot! Thanks for all you do for the reloading community.
I think maybe because it's an overview without a real conclusion.
@@TheSuburban15 His tests were fair and well done. He gave a well-balanced report / review. He posted the written results in a link. It is up to the viewers to pick and buy, not the Y.T. tester / video maker. This was not some 3 am Info-mercial with a paid audience clapping for the newest make-up or frying pan.
IF he had made a "real conclusion" as you said, then there would be at least 10 people whining and complaining and crying because he did not tell everyone to buy a Dillon machine.
Wow just WOW! You sir are a beast! Thank you for all you do. That was a lot of work and it shows you're a true professional.
Thanks Russ!!!!!!!
Impressive research as always. I did not expect Rock Chucker to be ranked #2.
Me too ! But I guess that German engineered $900.00 dollar press had better do something !!!
Joe D right?!
@@joed2392: Yeah...I watched this whole thing just to see where the RC Supreme came in. I figured it would place in the top three. I've had mine for about ten years and couldn't be happier!
I have reloaded for some 50 years or so. Still use the RCBS Rock Chucker - 2 that my wife and kids gave me. Super press. Never found anything it would not do. Or do well. Thanks for the video and work to put it together...
Got the rcbs rock chucker supreme after watching this vid thanks good job 👍
Good deal, great press!
Gavin, Your presentation style and unbiased, data driven analysis is refreshing and outstanding. It's not just the enormous time & effort, but the incredible process & data driven thought put into making this video. A large part of my career was speaking to experts at several top (Ivy league & similar) universities, then evaluating people, processes & products fairly for some very large, well respected organizations, using data to provide people information so they could choose to (or not) be better at what they do, whether it was designing new products, refining processes, or improving individual behaviors, knowledge & skills. You exemplify this approach. I stumbled across this video by accident. After watching the entire video, I wanted to compliment you for sharing your work & information. You deserve FAR more views & subscribers. Liked & subscribed. Now, range time!
You’re doing awesome work sir. Keep it coming!
One of the most awesome videos in gun stuff topics! Great job!
Thank you! I am new to reloading. I am still looking for my 1st machine to buy. This helped a lot!
Excellent video, I really enjoyed the finer points of your reloading. I have been reloading for years, I shoot several same calibre rifles, 303. I did at one time neck size only and not mixing each fire formed case with another. I later gave up this idea and factory resize all my fired cases. After resizing, measuring and trimming I anneal the cases every 5 times fired. I also find beam scales more accurate than battery or electric scales. I also find powder throwers inaccurate too as with the dippers too. Reloading is to each others choice and providing one takes care with powders and powder loads recommended by the manufacture one will avoid accidents. I shoot in the field and on military ranges, I also shoot on our local village range where velocity and energy are limited.
I always wondered about the RCBS Summit, looked like a great concept and the results show it is a strong contender.
Thanks Gavin for this video and your comprehensive report will stand the test of time. But it didnt help my wallet so thanks!?!?!
Thanks for the information, chossing a single stage press is a daunting task. This video will help people for years to come.
Great, thanks for the feedback Alex, just what I was hoping for!
Brother, you’re the reason I bought a Hornady Iron Press! It is an impressive machine. And, of course, I invested in all of the Inline Fabrication products that go with the Iron Press. Life is short, so why not?
GOOD DEAL!!!!! Glad to hear it's all working out for you :)
Excellent video. Very well filmed. Very well explained. Very well presented. Using only facts instead of opinions. All test very well performed. Great summary of results. Obviously a lot of work put in.
You’re killing me!!! I’ve been waiting on this video forever and you don’t give a top three or top five rating 😭
Also didn't include Dillon...
toadamine Dillon makes a single stage?
@@21anthem12 yes, and they do all the steps in one pull... Just like the automatic ones...
And no overview of the quality of the ammo produced! Why not include that data when you took so much trouble to compile it and ultimately it's the most valuable data of all????????
@@toadamine Dillon doesnt make a single stage press. This test was specifically for single stage.
I have chosen to start down the path of re-loading. This is by far, the most helpful video and article for beginners as well as long time re-loaders. Thank youfor your hard work. Love this channel.
Thanks Jeff!
I have a fairly broad collection of mechanical reloading scales and mechanical powder measures I would love to do testing like this between them all. Or have you do it.
Very good work!
Good idea Glen!
Awesome Work Dude !!! Gavin, I've got a RCBS Rock-Chucker that I have used for 45+ years !! I keep it well oiled, she's as tight as the day I bought her !
That big honk'n cast iron O - Frame and concentric ram is machined to an extremely fine tolerance . And she's still got all that beautiful green paint too, not a single chip !
It's going to be a hand me down, for sure ! And if you ever do a progressive Smack-Down, see if you can find an old tuned-up RCBS Green Machine in .38spl ....
I can still remember one of the R.O.'s at the T.G. range way down in Dade County, Fla, cranking out thousands of .38 wad cutters on that press !
Also Brings back to mind, that smell of pounds of Bullseye being burned up every hour when the wind was out of the west !! lol
I like the Tip TIR tables especially. They show that the best TIRs are not turned in by the highest price presses. The RCBS ones turn in the most consistent TIRs. Careful comparison of all 14 tables will indicate that TIR is controlled by the uniformity of the brass cases more than any of the presses or dies.
Thank you for taking the time to put together a very understandable shootout. You saved me a lot of time and effort on which press I might purchase. I was able to narrow my choice down to two or three and can focus on those as to which I would purchase. Great info
Gavin I love this. I would love to see next a Scale VS Electric Scale powder/load comparison. Like something that puts the charges thrown and weighed against one another compares Muzzle velocity, SD, & ES. I say this b/c I have went from using the RCBS Charge master back to throwing and my old RCBS 5-10 scale with the roller wheel for the tenths. With the Charge Master my 6.5 Creedmoor loads running Berger bullets and H4350 I was getting SD of 2.5-5.0 which is really good for what I do. Now having not ran the loads weighed out by my scale over my Magneto Speed V3 and loading the very same specs I'm wondering if I'll get the same results. Would be cool to watch. Thanks
Excellent video Gavin. Wow! So much effort.
Wow, incredibly thorough review of single-stage presses. Also, per your testing, I now know that I do not need to consider replacing my beloved RCBS Rock Chucker press that I have been using for a long time.
The RCBS Summit reminds me of the Star Machine Works Reloaders that a couple of my VERY OLD reloader buddies used.
For those interested in the RCBS Summit Press, don't waste your money on it. I purchased the press, loaded less than 400 round and broke the press. The weakness of the press is the part where the handle screws into, called the toggle in the instructions manual. The toggle is machined thin and will break over a short time from the pressures of using the machine to resize brass. Trying to get a replacement part, but who knows when that will come in. Now looking to purchase a new press (maybe the Redding or the Forster) and possibly just use the Summit Press for seating bullets or just sell it.
wow great job! Now I wonder how my original Rock Chucker from the 1970's stacks up to the new one. and that last press is crazy cool!
I have a Rockchucker II I bought somewhere around 1982, 1983 and it's still tight and as smooth as it can be. It has loaded thousands of rounds.
@@jonzie1228 mine is the org one, first model I think, and I have loaded hundreds of rounds on it every year for over 40 years and it is still chucking along.
I was just using my ol chucker the other night wondering if anything was improved on the newer ones or are the old ones made better like most things these days
Dude you ARE the Ultimate, insane reloader! Just mind-boggling, all that stuff you have.
This makes me feel even better about my rock chucker. I believe my next press will be another one...
Great video! It helped me decide to purchase a Lyman Ideal for reloading .38/.357. I Was a little disappointed that the Lee Breech Lock Reloader Single Stage wasn't included since it is by far the most economical press available, and it would have been interesting to see how it stacks up against the other simple basic presses.
Excellent detail which I really appreciate. Would love to see your top 3 favorites from this. Great data, but it’s hard as a newbie to know from all this info which way to go.
Have a friend who has several reloading systems and presses that he has acquired over the better part of 50 years in reloading. Some he has taken with
him when he was overseas and ammo was hard to find in some duty stations. Not sure what his favorite is as he has a Bunker that consist of
four conex containers together around a central shaft so he can access them from a central point. one container is larger than the others and the
ceiling in it is 10 foot? He says it allows him more freedom for some projects. He reloads everything from Pistol, Rifle to Shotgun and even
some cannon round for his Toys.
Hi Gavin...fantastic analysis!
I can see where you are questioning the value of "float" based upon your analysis, I am looking forward to what you will come up with here. But an even bigger question I now have based upon your data is the accuracy hit with the LnL system. The data you have shows the Hornady presses at the bottom of the list. Do you think this is due to the LnL system or to the flex in the Hornady presses or something else?
I would be very interested in your viewpoint here!
Thanks again!
Been using rcbs jr. single stage for alot of years and still am i have 3 of them would never change thanks nice video
Good things come to us that wait! So worth it! Fantastic job! Thank you for all your hard work.
I have settled on the Redding T7 Turret Press. I stack additional turret heads with dies already loaded and set for all my reloading calibers from pistol to rifle. I use an aftermarket handle and stand.
so happy with my RCBS Summit!!!!
Finally! Been waiting for this day since you dropped the tease weeks ago! Thanks Gavin!!!!
Sorry it took so long (perfectionist)
@@Ultimatereloader No problem, it was worth the wait... Thanks again!
I'm a long time fan.
I really want to start reloading 223 & 300 blackout. I'm overwhelmed with all the info on the internet. Do you have a getting started buyers guide line up that would help newbies get started with single presses that would lead to turret presses as we progress with our skills and confidence Any help for "dummies" is appreciated. Thank You, Sir.
Outstanding video. What else can I say? I'm reading your full write up now. Great info. Relevant and very clearly presented. Nicely done. Thank you.
THX!!!
Gavin - You did a great job on what was surely a monumental task. I'm curious if you think that the presses that had floating dies or shellholders would have a problem with breaking decapping pins?
With a sizing die, no, because the shell will self-center in the die, or vise versa. With a universal decapping die, yeah, maybe.
You put a lot of work into this. Thanks for that. Great info and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks Rob!
After 25 plus years of loading for competition and cartridge design, I have to say I like the RCBS Summit.
I have 2 of them, one with long handle and the other with the short handle option.
In total, I have 7 presses including Redding, Dillion, RCBS and Harrells.
As someone just starting out into reloading this video was amazingly helpful
Thanks
Glad you found it helpful!
From South Africa, I can verify the Rock Chucker catches spent primers to the right as well...
Haha! Good to know :)
I sure do hats off to you and all that create such in depth and great great videos….Thanks
Can you do the same with turret presses? That would be awsome! Greate video btw👍
Yes, I would definitely like to...
Very nice video. I wish you included also the Redding Ultramag, but it's very nice.
Still waiting on a review of the Redding Ultramag.I have 2 because my research at the time proved to me they were the best for my needs.
Gavin,
You know the only issue with setting the bar this high, is that the requests for this level of analysis with other tools is going to start flooding in! Lol
Like a similar video involving turret press analysis. Or single stages presses not mentioned in this video like the Redding UltraMag or the RCBS AmmoMaster.
Wait, did I just do that? Ugh, sorry my man! Lol. Thanks again!
Rock chucker for the win! Never going to spend that much on a single press. Great review you put on quite a in-depth analysis of these presses.