When it did 57 I will admit it was OP. I prefer it when it had the 1:00.6 lap time. It wasn't overpowered but still number 1. The recent patch is way too big of a nerf. That goes for all the down force cars. Many of them needed a buff not a nerf. I feel ripped off, I only bought the RE-7B for its performance and now it's not even worth using. Seriously fuck R* and there shady bullshit. And what about the Itali GTB custom? 1.9 seconds slower than the regular Itali GTB. That's pathetic.. Great "upgrade" R*.
Yeah i suppose that's why they did it but it's a pretty lame excuse. They destroyed 10 cars with these changes instead of just balancing the Vagner with the other high-end down force cars. That just screams lazy and shady business practice to me. They made the old cars obsolete so now you have to buy the new one. I for one say fuck that! i'm not supporting the change. It was a stupid decision and R* should be called out on it.
I never cared for the traction-focused 57s version.... when it was reliably pumping out 180+ mph speeds on PC with the carbon spoiler + stock wheel setup that more than makes up for the lost traction. It was genuinely a blast to drive, and I couldn't stand to *look at* the RE-7B after the first nerf (let alone drive it), even though it was still the fastest around a track. I sold it without any second thoughts right then.
Chris -0 firstly 54 on cutting coroners (the version in the video) that's bullshit. And the whole "it depends on the driver" argument is and always will be a stupid argument. Yes it's possible to beat someone in a Nero Custom in a Bullet if you are a better driver but that doesn't change the fact that the odds are still highly in his favor because he has a much better car with much better stats. That has nothing to do with the driver that's just the way it's coded. Being a good driver can only get you so far. In a race with drivers of equal skill if you pick a RE-7B you are gonna loss because it's just not a good car anymore and that's why people are upset. It has nothing to do with being a good or bad driver.
Spare I’ve had the Turismo R since it came out and I still drive (and race) it regularly, it’s such a good car specially with the 1/2 million dollar price tag.
Oh after watching the whole video very carefully turns out it'll be very op if the downforce was not nerfed.. so they nerfed the downforce just for this car? Still not nice rockstar.. still not nice..
Callum6355 would you mind sharing your favorite car? Mine is Panto with salmon pink primary color and chrome secondary color + stickers. Oh and you must not forget to put chrome lowrider wheels and white walls on it! Cheers!
Callum6355 oh you mean the vagin.. Vagner? It has curves and well.. but my fav car is not in the supers class. Beside the super cute and lovely Panto for a serious car I like the Stirling GT and Vulcar Warrener. The car I dislike the most is the pegassi series like zentorno or tempesta and X80 Proto. So what is your favorite car? I just want to have some chat with a fellow car enthusiast
I'll be avoiding, mainly because all I want is the Cheetah Classic, but also because as a slight protest for the RE7B, which I never used, but it's the principle!
Evan056 Why protest the nerf of the RE-7B That was literally the marksman rifle and bst of racing, it was too overpowered and didn't require any skill to drive.
Not really serious here, chill! I'm waiting for all cars from this bunch to release before buying anything other than the Cheetah Classic, that's all. lol
Also, if they are willing to nerf the RE, and all other down force vehicles, for the sake of one new release, what's to say this car won't be rekt too? For the Omnis!
Rocking my Zentorno since release of it :D. Love the handling of it and the AWD, was thinking about getting the tempesta ontop of it to try it out for myself and how it feels.
I am happy that this car is good, I would have bought it regardless because it completes my Dewbauchee collection so the performance is an added bonus. Thanks Broughy for the quick testing and publishing.
Wow, Brough, I'm impressed! Way to be up to date with the new releases my man. Looking forward to the stream later and I hope you're having a good day :).
iSparkelz it depends on the track. On tracks like the Rockstar stunt races the Vagner can't keep up with the X80 or Nero Custom. They accelerate far better and destroy the Vagner. On top of that RWD is inferior to AWD in tubes.
@Broughy1322 I would like to thank you for the hard work and dedication you do for these videos. I know lots of the larger GTA V content "creators" like to basically take from you and never give credit. But when ever anybody ask me what is the best car for racing; I always point them to you. Because you're basically my go-to guy for them types of videos. Again thank you for the work you do and keep it up.
the centenario is the last high end lambo and its way faster then a veneno www.lamborghini.com/fr-en/sites/fr-en/files/DAM/lamborghini/model/one-off/centenario/slider/centenario.jpg
Nick Young Kinda messed that up Fastest Sports car in a straight line- Schafter V12 Fastest Sports car around a circuit- Elegy Fastest Super car in a straight line-811 Fastest Super car around a track-Tempesta
Downforce car with supposedly less powerful downforce-car-spoiler and yet this good? Ok, well I don't really understand how this works, but thanks for the immediate testing!
Alright so they nerf the traction on the RE-7B in the same update they release a new high traction car. I'm being completely serious when I say this: considering real money can be used on these, that's legit pretty unethical on the part of R*. And I say that with no exaggeration.
Thank GOD for that. RE-7B is fucking hideous, its an abomination. Worst looking car in the entire game. So glad i wont see so many of them racing anymore. Get this one, it looks miles bette, and stop crying. Someone had to take the re-7b out back and shoot it to end its suffering.
repl0id Two I mean I'm not a fan of the RE either and I was more than happy to sell mine. But it's wrong for a company to just nerf something only to replace it with something that's equally powerful.
They didn't 'nerf' the RE-7B. They nerfed downforce in general. If they hadn't have done that the Vagner would be ridiculously OP and you'd have to spend money on it anyway, so it really doesn't make a difference. R* did keep the super class well balanced (for now) and I'm happy I don't have to see any more RE-7B tryhards in an OP ugly car that takes no skill to drive :P
I suspect that they made this car, realised it would completely destroy the supercar class. And then in stead of changing this one car they just nerfed the whole down force thing (effectively changing multiple cars for the worse)... Rockstar logic...
broughy, if u used MDSB with the vagner at the last hairpin you would have demolished the tempesta. i know you dont do that in your testing normally but it is worth noting
Im glad they made the aston martin Valkyrie for what it is; a straight up MONSTER. This car looks great and performs great. Completely worth the money!
Great video for decision. So when you upload video testing top speed for off-road class including latest DLC Gunrunning and new 5 vehicle gunrunning yet? I'm really so exciting with that.
Hi just wondering if the stock spoiler gives better traction or do i need to buy one of the other spoilers? i bought the vaginer during the sale but was still too poor for the spoiler after doing all the necessities, engine etc so still have the stock one
Broughy1322 there's a "no spoiler" option at the top, but the "stock spoiler" which is the second one down is what comes with the car by default. Went to LSC today to check if the little blue bar would appear when cycling through spoilers but it didn't show at all so couldn't tell from that. Ended up buying the last one in the list because I had a bit more money anyway. Thanks for replying
I love the vagner. Looks and sounds like alien. Wasn't sure where it'd be positioned but I'm happy it's high in the ranks. I think the XA-21 will have immensely better traction though, considering it's slower in a drag and 1.5x the price tag.
I bought the Vagner, and now I understand why rockstar nerfed all down force using cars. This fucking too good on a handicap. Imagine if down force was the the way it used to be everyone would only use the Vagner in races.
Hi Broughy, thx for the video. Will you test the unreleased vehicles before rockstar will make them available in-game, like you did a while ago? Thank you again :)
Do you know if either the default "Standard Spoiler" or "None" (spoiler option) is a feasible way to get a traction increase on the Vagner? The recent changes to downforce-affected cars that you discuss in #86 and the fact that the traction bar doesn't change in LS Customs - along with a faint memory of the "None" option on the Omins or Lancia Stratos-lookalike (name?) being the way to go, I'm currently at a loss as to which option to pick on the Vagner if I wish to avoid the large spoilers.
That's pretty nice! You gotta update the spreadsheet because I don't know where the FMJ lies now after the gunrunning update. Can anyone tell me where the FMJ lies now?
Kind of dissapointed they released this Aston Martin first, wanted the Jaguar prototype, but hey, at least this one is pretty cool ! Hope the Jaguar car will be next.
I've test drove it & it handles very good, on par with the Nero Custom, the engine sound is like from an actual racing game, but despite these traits it is one of the ugliest looking super cars in game imo....
Rockstar: "Let's make a really OP car(RE7B) so everyone buys it then wait and then give it a nerf which makes no sense so we make even more money from the next OP car!" Also Rockstar: "WTF why yo dislike our game we are very community driven?! We love you guys honest!"
Video about nerfed downforce cars (RE-7B etc): ruclips.net/video/As1y5ScnHtw/видео.html All the other supercars lap times: ruclips.net/video/P0wpd06NaPQ/видео.html Tyres can clip. New super coming in the following weeks. Perhaps best to save money until then. Nero Custom & X80 still best for most stunt races due to Vagner being RWD. Nero Custom still best all-rounder. Use any of the top 5-10 supers and you'll be fine. Top speed video coming soon.
Very helpful video. I was torn between the Tempesta and the Zentorno, because of the more attractive price of the latter. Tempesta it is. The Vagner does not bring to much value for the even higher price.
lets all have a moment of silence for the re 7b remember when it had a 57 seconds lap time
Remember when i was called cheater every time i used re7b.
When it did 57 I will admit it was OP. I prefer it when it had the 1:00.6 lap time. It wasn't overpowered but still number 1. The recent patch is way too big of a nerf. That goes for all the down force cars. Many of them needed a buff not a nerf. I feel ripped off, I only bought the RE-7B for its performance and now it's not even worth using. Seriously fuck R* and there shady bullshit. And what about the Itali GTB custom? 1.9 seconds slower than the regular Itali GTB. That's pathetic.. Great "upgrade" R*.
Yeah i suppose that's why they did it but it's a pretty lame excuse. They destroyed 10 cars with these changes instead of just balancing the Vagner with the other high-end down force cars. That just screams lazy and shady business practice to me. They made the old cars obsolete so now you have to buy the new one. I for one say fuck that! i'm not supporting the change. It was a stupid decision and R* should be called out on it.
I never cared for the traction-focused 57s version.... when it was reliably pumping out 180+ mph speeds on PC with the carbon spoiler + stock wheel setup that more than makes up for the lost traction.
It was genuinely a blast to drive, and I couldn't stand to *look at* the RE-7B after the first nerf (let alone drive it), even though it was still the fastest around a track. I sold it without any second thoughts right then.
Chris -0 firstly 54 on cutting coroners (the version in the video) that's bullshit. And the whole "it depends on the driver" argument is and always will be a stupid argument. Yes it's possible to beat someone in a Nero Custom in a Bullet if you are a better driver but that doesn't change the fact that the odds are still highly in his favor because he has a much better car with much better stats. That has nothing to do with the driver that's just the way it's coded. Being a good driver can only get you so far. In a race with drivers of equal skill if you pick a RE-7B you are gonna loss because it's just not a good car anymore and that's why people are upset. It has nothing to do with being a good or bad driver.
Anyone else been checking youtube for the past few hours waiting for this lol?
Thanks for all the hard and fast work Broughster
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Vagner is like the X80's cousin and Turismo R's brother but better
Spare yes! Kicks out a little like the turismo and and steering abit like x80
and the vagner isn't as ugly as the x80 so thats also a plus
Spare I’ve had the Turismo R since it came out and I still drive (and race) it regularly, it’s such a good car specially with the 1/2 million dollar price tag.
Spare more like the Turismo's cousin and X80's brother
MrMiura92 the X80 is a very nice looking car so get some eye balls
best gta 5 youtuber , no clickbaits. Love u dude
Roach Sanderson Agreed 200%
Roach Sanderson haha no.
the GOAT -IsHere• Have you ever heard of this thing called an "opinion"
I'm just happy that this is the in game adaptation of the Aston Martin Valkyrie. It's the next generation of Hypercars.
Oh so the re-7b was nerfed so they can sell this car.. das not nice rockstar.. not nice..
Oh after watching the whole video very carefully turns out it'll be very op if the downforce was not nerfed.. so they nerfed the downforce just for this car? Still not nice rockstar.. still not nice..
kato well this one is cheaper
kato to be fair the RE-7B is pretty ugly if you have anything but the stock tires on it
I sold my RE7B for this car, and still have money left for change.
Whats wrong with you its the best thing they have ever done!
Hmmm, tempted to buy this for races... but it looks abit... meh
gg thanks for the info Broughy!
Callum6355 would you mind sharing your favorite car? Mine is Panto with salmon pink primary color and chrome secondary color + stickers. Oh and you must not forget to put chrome lowrider wheels and white walls on it! Cheers!
GTA Wise Guy I keep saying it looks like an autistic batmobile.
Callum6355 I like cute things ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Callum6355 oh you mean the vagin.. Vagner? It has curves and well.. but my fav car is not in the supers class. Beside the super cute and lovely Panto for a serious car I like the Stirling GT and Vulcar Warrener. The car I dislike the most is the pegassi series like zentorno or tempesta and X80 Proto. So what is your favorite car? I just want to have some chat with a fellow car enthusiast
GTA Wise Guy
I've won 5 races in a row against this car with my Nero,
My custom non Benny's one.
i miss the time when tyrus was good
Another abomination of an ugly car.
Vertix SniffSniff Sniff and the entity
repl0id Two The Tyrus is beautiful the fuck you talking about
repl0id Two yeah wtf? Who calls an f1 ugly!?
At least Tyrus is still a babe tho
Wow you were quick to upload this info. I appreciate your effort. Glad I subbed.
I don't understand why people dislike its appearance and why Broughy won't fulfill his promise of doing a rap battle at 100k
WE WON'T LET IT SLIDE BROUGHY
I'll be avoiding, mainly because all I want is the Cheetah Classic, but also because as a slight protest for the RE7B, which I never used, but it's the principle!
Evan056
Why protest the nerf of the RE-7B
That was literally the marksman rifle and bst of racing, it was too overpowered and didn't require any skill to drive.
Not really serious here, chill! I'm waiting for all cars from this bunch to release before buying anything other than the Cheetah Classic, that's all. lol
Also, if they are willing to nerf the RE, and all other down force vehicles, for the sake of one new release, what's to say this car won't be rekt too? For the Omnis!
This is nice to see as soon as I wake up, thank you
Rocking my Zentorno since release of it :D. Love the handling of it and the AWD, was thinking about getting the tempesta ontop of it to try it out for myself and how it feels.
CryCel I sold my zentorno to get tempesta and it was worth it
CryCel Get this car and keep the zentorno Perfect combo
Because the tempesta is way lighter and in some tracks "Stunt races" It would be perform worst then the zentorno
@AustiforniaSourfilms My problem with the Vagner it is RWD, not really sure if I'm going to like it that much.
@DATJOSHGUY 19 Not really a fan of selling cars. I do heists and so on to buy the cars. So far I got one car which I love to bits for each Race.
I am happy that this car is good, I would have bought it regardless because it completes my Dewbauchee collection so the performance is an added bonus. Thanks Broughy for the quick testing and publishing.
Craaaazy you already have this video ready just as I saw it on LegendaryMS
lol, thank you Boughy for validating my "Hmm, not bad" post on the NODO forums :P
Wow, Brough, I'm impressed! Way to be up to date with the new releases my man. Looking forward to the stream later and I hope you're having a good day :).
Finally a good reason for me to get rid of my X80. I really hate that car.
Cartman C is the Vagner faster?
iSparkelz Around a track, yeah
iSparkelz it depends on the track. On tracks like the Rockstar stunt races the Vagner can't keep up with the X80 or Nero Custom. They accelerate far better and destroy the Vagner. On top of that RWD is inferior to AWD in tubes.
In next DLC Rockstar sabotages Vagner and releases new car "the traction king".
Wulfgar Well. It took 2 years
I cried driving the Vagner, I finally have something to substitute the T-20 for in races. Rockstar finally made me happy
I love your videos Adam.
Interesting video. Liked the video.
Great :D like your vids !
@Broughy1322 I would like to thank you for the hard work and dedication you do for these videos. I know lots of the larger GTA V content "creators" like to basically take from you and never give credit. But when ever anybody ask me what is the best car for racing; I always point them to you. Because you're basically my go-to guy for them types of videos. Again thank you for the work you do and keep it up.
:) You're Welcome.
The Vagner looks like the turismo and osiris combined
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS !!!! 😂
I managed a 1:02.4 with 8 tries, felt like there was still quite some time in it.
Thanks mate 👍👍👍
Proper V12 sounds. Finally.
huracan faster than veneno
makes sense...
centenario faster than sento elemento/veneno
?
the centenario is the last high end lambo and its way faster then a veneno
www.lamborghini.com/fr-en/sites/fr-en/files/DAM/lamborghini/model/one-off/centenario/slider/centenario.jpg
i know that but why are you saying that? 😂
because the tempesta is half huracan half centenario
awsome
tnx for the info
Broughy got this out quick gg
Yes, this was the video i was looking for. it is quick, but i didnt think it was that fast. holy crap!
Fast great vid man best gta u tuber.
Love you Broughy ❤️
I've never seen anyone drive so perfectly like this
Dewbauchee have the best super and sports cars for racing. 🇬🇧
Luiz Zzz Fastest sports car : Schafter V12,
Best Super Car : Tempesta
Not one Dewbauchee in first place
Luiz Zzz not sports lol,elegy aint dewbauchee ;)
Nick Young Kinda messed that up
Fastest Sports car in a straight line- Schafter V12
Fastest Sports car around a circuit- Elegy
Fastest Super car in a straight line-811
Fastest Super car around a track-Tempesta
In general truuu
Honestly though Dewbauchee makes great race cars
Downforce car with supposedly less powerful downforce-car-spoiler and yet this good? Ok, well I don't really understand how this works, but thanks for the immediate testing!
Thank you ☺
Since its RWD time to double clutch and see how fast in drag. Can't wait for top speed video!!
damn your quick props man :)
These videos actually help when u try to buy a new car in gta
Amarjot Hunjan well thats why he makes them
Great video again keep up the good work
Alright so they nerf the traction on the RE-7B in the same update they release a new high traction car.
I'm being completely serious when I say this: considering real money can be used on these, that's legit pretty unethical on the part of R*.
And I say that with no exaggeration.
Thank GOD for that. RE-7B is fucking hideous, its an abomination. Worst looking car in the entire game. So glad i wont see so many of them racing anymore. Get this one, it looks miles bette, and stop crying. Someone had to take the re-7b out back and shoot it to end its suffering.
repl0id Two I mean I'm not a fan of the RE either and I was more than happy to sell mine. But it's wrong for a company to just nerf something only to replace it with something that's equally powerful.
+repLOid Two look's like you're the one that's whining and crying!
They didn't 'nerf' the RE-7B. They nerfed downforce in general. If they hadn't have done that the Vagner would be ridiculously OP and you'd have to spend money on it anyway, so it really doesn't make a difference. R* did keep the super class well balanced (for now) and I'm happy I don't have to see any more RE-7B tryhards in an OP ugly car that takes no skill to drive :P
"RE-7B tryhards". Really?
Thx dude
this is nice
i just bought the vagner just because i was curious and i really like how it drives and the looks is freaking amazing
Is this video or the spreadsheet is the newest data?
I suspect that they made this car, realised it would completely destroy the supercar class. And then in stead of changing this one car they just nerfed the whole down force thing (effectively changing multiple cars for the worse)... Rockstar logic...
You never know... Maybe!
Yesidoplaytheguitar or more likely they nerfed it so people have a reason to actually buy this one.
Coolness201 yeah true, many of the new cars nowadays dont beat the older
Was waiting for this to buy it :)
broughy, if u used MDSB with the vagner at the last hairpin you would have demolished the tempesta. i know you dont do that in your testing normally but it is worth noting
Yeah I'm gonna give the MDSB a try in the stream tonight. Have heard it's savage.
Broughy1322 you can do it a lot more consistently if you use the brake as well as the handbrake ;)
Ishan826 what is MDSB?
josh zurek mid drive speed boost
Ishan826 I dont have the car yet but whats short shifting like with it?
The Zentorno is 2nd now? Why do I still have my RE-7B anymore???
Because it's a beautiful LMP1 car.
Im glad they made the aston martin Valkyrie for what it is; a straight up MONSTER. This car looks great and performs great. Completely worth the money!
Great! I need a downforce super in my life and I guess this is it now.
Great video for decision. So when you upload video testing top speed for off-road class including latest DLC Gunrunning and new 5 vehicle gunrunning yet? I'm really so exciting with that.
Nope not yet
First Dewbauchee supercar. THANK YOU R*! Been waiting since the Massacro came out. Lol
0:18 elite vehicles
0:28 Welcome to the elite league, Dewbauchee Vagner
I like it, seems to fit well into the newly nerfed supers class.
Thanks Broughy!
Tires can clip ? Also can i keep the "standard spoiler" and still get the traction bonus ?
ShoOtGuN 93 It does have tires can clip. Not sure about the spoilers tho
Ok thanks dude , i'm tired of supers having the tire can clip flag. Off road wheels are awful so i just go with tuner wheels but still , its annoying.
ShoOtGuN 93 the default spoiler does give the traction improvement
Thanks , i like all the spoilers but they look a bit "big" , the standard spoiler looks cool
Hi just wondering if the stock spoiler gives better traction or do i need to buy one of the other spoilers? i bought the vaginer during the sale but was still too poor for the spoiler after doing all the necessities, engine etc so still have the stock one
Whatever option is at the top of the spoilers list doesn’t help. Everything else does.
Broughy1322 there's a "no spoiler" option at the top, but the "stock spoiler" which is the second one down is what comes with the car by default. Went to LSC today to check if the little blue bar would appear when cycling through spoilers but it didn't show at all so couldn't tell from that. Ended up buying the last one in the list because I had a bit more money anyway. Thanks for replying
Thanks for the very quick test videos! Do you think this will be the new king of airport tracks?
Yes
I love the vagner. Looks and sounds like alien. Wasn't sure where it'd be positioned but I'm happy it's high in the ranks. I think the XA-21 will have immensely better traction though, considering it's slower in a drag and 1.5x the price tag.
2:20 Broughy called the downforce change after Smuggler's Run
Should I sell my T20?
I bought the Vagner, and now I understand why rockstar nerfed all down force using cars. This fucking too good on a handicap. Imagine if down force was the the way it used to be everyone would only use the Vagner in races.
Definitely buying this I sold my Osiris for it. I always like to have a quick RWD super car.
Hi Broughy, thx for the video.
Will you test the unreleased vehicles before rockstar will make them available in-game, like you did a while ago?
Thank you again :)
Unfortunately not since I don't have access to my PC
Ok, good to know. Thank you :)
Do you know if either the default "Standard Spoiler" or "None" (spoiler option) is a feasible way to get a traction increase on the Vagner?
The recent changes to downforce-affected cars that you discuss in #86 and the fact that the traction bar doesn't change in LS Customs - along with a faint memory of the "None" option on the Omins or Lancia Stratos-lookalike (name?) being the way to go, I'm currently at a loss as to which option to pick on the Vagner if I wish to avoid the large spoilers.
Chokoladenudlen Also wondering this
Chokoladenudlen the spoiler it comes with gives traction. the only one that doesn't is the "no spoiler" option at the top in LSC
Thanks! :)
Anything that's NOT the very first option in LSC will give a traction increase.
I just realized this car has slick tires with stock wheels. Nice touch Rockstar
Would you look at that, DatSaintsFan used your track times in 1 of his videos and even gave credit to you.
There is still hope...
Turismo R: Who are you?
Vagner: I'm you, but stronger.
Aha so true
If this car doesnt have "Ride Of The Valkyries" as its default radio track - Im boycotting R*.
OMG It's my favourite new car just had a Stunt Rave playlist and I won 7 of them and got 2nd and 3rd twice
do u have a list somewhere that gets updated?
The vagner is already out? I don't see it in the game
"The Vagner is the new traction king and the new fastest RWD car in the game"
Damn it R*, why couldn't you just leave me and my FMJ alone?!?
yes I found the one
the one who acutely does the test
and gets his info stolen by other people
the one who deserves more credit
That's me! XD
YUSH the man I have been searching for all my life is here the lengend him self
This car looks amazing
Just got the world record on Pier Race with this. Great car.
If this car had the non nerfed downforce value, it would be a sub 59 second car
broughy which one do you recommend tempesta or vagner
That's pretty nice! You gotta update the spreadsheet because I don't know where the FMJ lies now after the gunrunning update.
Can anyone tell me where the FMJ lies now?
it's unchanged
pretty sure it's unchanged.
Jordan Escobar so it's still #10
Thanks
Kind of dissapointed they released this Aston Martin first, wanted the Jaguar prototype, but hey, at least this one is pretty cool ! Hope the Jaguar car will be next.
Better than the Nero Custom for stunt races?
thanks
Wow, R* actually have a new engine sound for this car unlike in the previews where it's the same as the Turismo R/Carbonizzare/Feltzer.
I've test drove it & it handles very good, on par with the Nero Custom, the engine sound is like from an actual racing game, but despite these traits it is one of the ugliest looking super cars in game imo....
Probably the best looking Dewbachee we've ever got after the Massacro
Rockstar: "Let's make a really OP car(RE7B) so everyone buys it then wait and then give it a nerf which makes no sense so we make even more money from the next OP car!"
Also Rockstar: "WTF why yo dislike our game we are very community driven?! We love you guys honest!"
Video about nerfed downforce cars (RE-7B etc): ruclips.net/video/As1y5ScnHtw/видео.html
All the other supercars lap times: ruclips.net/video/P0wpd06NaPQ/видео.html
Tyres can clip.
New super coming in the following weeks. Perhaps best to save money until then.
Nero Custom & X80 still best for most stunt races due to Vagner being RWD.
Nero Custom still best all-rounder.
Use any of the top 5-10 supers and you'll be fine.
Top speed video coming soon.
should i buy vagner in place of x80 for stunt races?
When is the top speed video coming?
oleg_aka_djmeg no
Tomorrow I would say, I can already Tell tho it has the same topspeed like the Itali GTB Custom.
Sarcasm linni :P
OMG I LOVE YOU BROUGHY
So witch one would u guys recommend 2 me the zero or the vagner
Nero not zero
The Vagner handles extremely nice.
The only thing faster than the latest Supers is how quickly Broughy gets these videos out.
H3zzard lol
Very helpful video. I was torn between the Tempesta and the Zentorno, because of the more attractive price of the latter. Tempesta it is. The Vagner does not bring to much value for the even higher price.
Sooooo forget my question from yesterday about which car's best for airport tracks xD it seems we have the answer.
TiroweE fmj
does it have tires can clip?
Yes
Broughy1322 thank you!! didn't expect this quick reply :)
does it have fancy doors? that would be the deciding factor whether I will buy this
Yes
cool. that's the main downside of the Tempesta
whoeveriam0iam14222 they are the gullwing doors like the mercedes sls amg
Does the stock spoiler the Vagner comes with increase traction like any other spoiler?
yes
hello, does the Vagner benefit from offroad wheels ?
it has tyres_can_clip
Does the vagner burnout at start? Or is it a smooth takeoff?
every car does a smooth takeoff if you learn throttle control