I've done this dozens of times and gotten great results. But one thing I've noticed about almost all the wood glue cleaning videos is that they make it much more complicated than it has to be. For example, applying the glue on a spinning turntable and then spreading it around with some kind of plastic card. Not necessary at all and actually a really good way to get glue all over your turntable if you're not careful. Instead, first place the record on a flat surface, not the turntable, and apply the glue in a spiral around the record. Next, using your finger spread the glue out to cover the vinyl. Unlike using a card this works the glue down into the grooves where you need it to be. The glue doesn't have to be a consistent thickness at this stage because it is a liquid and assuming that the room temperature is reasonably warm, when you set aside the record to dry on a level flat surface the glue will even itself out well enough. Also you don't need to let the glue dry completely. If you let it dry completely it becomes brittle and that makes it harder to peel off in one piece which is ideal. Peeling the glue while it is still slightly pliable gives a better chance of all the glue coming off in one sheet. If you're going to let the glue dry completely, apply packing or duct tape in strips from the label out on the dried glue with a tab of tape hanging over the outside edge of the record. This gives you something to pull the glue up with and hopefully keeps the glue from cracking off in pieces
Audio/broadcast engineer here, doing this over 50 years. Basic wood glue (Titebond works) don't need a stiff card, your finger will do. Let the glue dry clear, peel it off. Don't waste money on snake oil, brushes, soaps, disk cleaning solutions.
Posting this on a few of these videos to give a hard-earned lesson. DO NOT USE ELMER'S WOOD GLUE TO CLEAN LPs!!!! It dries brittle and flakes off like old paint, rather than "peeling" like it should, which makes it a pain in the ass and can damage your record since you likely will need to scrap or pick it off the playing area. As if this wasn't bad enough, glue bits can stick in the deeper grooves, and now loud snaps play on the record I tried it with. Now - I've used Elmer's for years and it works great for gluing WOOD, but is lousy for this specific hack. I tried again with TITEBOND II, and it worked very well. Came off in one piece. Can't say anything about Gorilla or other brands.
Serves you right for doing something so obviously childish like spreading glue all over your records like its a kids play party when a bit of warm water and a soft rag is gentler and works just as well without stripping polymer off the vinyl..
@@bottomendbliss this is used for restoration - not routine cleaning (for which I do use special solvent and a microfiber cloth). I tried Titebond II on a bargain-bin $1 record that popped and scratched like crazy... After an application of glue, it played like new. I was impressed. Not all glues are equal though and the right brand matters. If you don't want to do it, and don't try it. No need to be a prick.
@@shionyr This does the opposite of restoration. Its beyond ridiculous. It’s like trying to explain common sense to a child. Just wake up to yourself and look at what you are doing. When you peel that glue off your record as ridiculous as that sounds, the glue does not peel off perfectly or completely. What in your right mind made you think it did? . It leaves deposited that can only be removed with alcohol or a detergent and mild abrasion. You are also peeling off layers of polymers that are specifically applied during manufacture. Do some reading about how vinyl records are made. The specific compounds used and their purpose. I can’t believe all this isn’t obvious and grown adults are painting their vinyl with glue.
@@bottomendbliss so apparently you're a chemical engineer. Why don't you make a video educating others in the chemistry of why this is a bad idea? I know there are risks but when it comes to records beyond all hope (to which I've also used a deep-cleaning brush I have specifically for that purpose) it's a good solution. Also why don't you go comment on other users? There are hundreds of idiots in this thread for you to be smarter than. Go have fun :)
Using the correct base woodglue does work, but people should know that a badly scratched record, like in the video, will still sound scratched, only less. It is not a miracle method, it just cleans the record deeply, it does not make it factory fresh! See also www.discofilm.eu
The crackling sound mostly came from the static... so I think if you ionize the record with the laser after using the wood glue would work even better!
You didn't play enough of help me Rhonda😅i love the beach boys I know every song they ever did I love pet sounds I have it on a LP I have other albums by them too
Just be careful in the application. Let the glue dry for a full 24 hours. Let it 2 days if you are concerned. Remove the hardened glue with a plastic device. A pointed Bic pen cap works great. Or a plastic knife.
I've tried this method twice, but didn't became significant success. Guess disks conditions was already not enough acceptable for this practice. Well, I'm gonna try it again. Thanks a lot
just throwing this out there but this made me drop the smart phone for a good old vinal tonight. beach boys endless summer! I love the pops of records. its sounds like years of over listening. when on pops a Lot it means its one of your favs. 24 and love the oldies my dad grew up to
I tried this once but was to afraid to play the lp, You really got to do a 2nd cleaning before you put it back on the tt. I use isoprophyl alcohol ,distilled water & a Q-tip
Eric, if you use a fan, it usually takes only about a half hour to dry. Also, be aware that the wood gluing process causes static(that's the remaining pops you heard)so you might want to try very lightly running a dryer sheet over the record a few times before playing it. I have done this to records that look pretty rough, but now sound near mint. As long as the scratches are not too deep, the glue can work wonders.
Partly true. Tearing the glue does leave a static __charge__ (not to be confused with radio static-like hiss/crackle) which can attract dust. However, the pops are not caused by the newly acquired static charge, but are due to permanent scratches on the record. The pops were always there but could not be distinguished over the rolling crackle.
I have just made a video with several before and after sound clips from cleaning with wood glue and record skin/disco film (the official product). I can't post links here, so please search for "SOUND CLIPS: Record cleaning with wood glue and Disco Film"
I had scratches on CDs and DVDs and couldn´t play them, or they jumped a number or chapter. Added toothpaste on surface and rinsed with water and voila...played like perfect. Perhaps it could work on vinyl as well.
Wipe the dust off the crackel you still hear it from scratches no wood glue fixing that.. just use a record cleaner and you can listen right away instead of waiting the whole day and getting glue on your turntable
Ive tried this method a few times and I have had problems every time removing the glue. The glue did not come off in one piece, I had to remove multiple small pieces of glue which took a lot of time.
When doing this, you should ONLY use Titebond II (blue label). Out of all the proprietary formulas, I've found Titebond II to be the most flexible, and adheres to the record the least.
what type of wood glue do you have because all I know is MINE IS WHITE AND Icant get it to go on SMOOTH and also using a "stiff card' doesn't work AND WHEN I PEELED IT OFF IT LEFT A "FILM " A "PATTERN" ON THE RECORD!!!whats wrong? is it the glue?
in most cases THIS WORKS in most cases. I have a problem with spreading the glue without getting it on the record label or evenly on the RUN OUT GROOVE (which I have to clean seperatly with something else) and using a STIFF CARD well how THICK does it have to be? Using your finger is better....it wont remove ALL the "Crackles" but most of it. somehow some records seemed to be CAKED with dust I HAD ONE and it worked miracles except for the skip....but when I tried to clean an OZZY OSBOURNE album I got from a thrift store....well lets just say the record still has dried glue (flat) in it. (or something else0 but when I used it on a JONATHAN WINTERS COMEDY ALBUM it was 'distorting' but the glue took care of it...but still hard to spread ect... without too much or too little in the run out groove ect...also I tried playing one of the glues off the record it doesn't work so its not worth it
just throwing this out there but this made me drop the smart phone for a god old vinal tonight. beach boys endless summer! I love the pops of records. its sounds like years of over listening. when on pops a Lot it means its on of your favs. 24 and love the oldies my dad grew up to
Reptile Nexus Thanks for the update! I have a terribly dirty Led Zeppelin III and Metallica' Kill Em All records that need some deep cleaning. Not sure how to go about it without breaking the bank.
Hope you didn't try it. The two formulations are very different when dry. Titebond I dries more like Elmers wood glue and is brittle. Titebond II dries more flexible, and allows one to peel it off the record.
Great result! Luckily I found the exact same glue available here in Finland so Im confident to try this out. So the glue set for a day, i.e. 24 hours? Thanks for a good presentation.
If anyone tries this they nuts, if you do this and leave glue in the vinyl this will fuck up your needle and then the rest of your records, just check the record on the bin! Problem solved.
Absolute best way to clean a beach boy record apply the glue by using a sponge paint brush as the record spins make sure to get all over let sit for a day drink some tea smoke a fatty then wake up get out your mallet don't use that sissy rubber one a metal mallet then think of your ex wife sleeping with your best friend one summer while youre at work and smash it to hell
I tried this several times and noticed no difference at all. It's possible that the master plates used to print the discs could be faulty, in which case no amount of cleaning is going to help. There'sno way to know unless you know the condition of the record when it was first pressed. The results were ruining three albums. Water helped get rid of some of the glue issues but not all. I highly suggest you don't do this. Try more gentle methods like a little dish washing soap and water.
could work , but I have only 50 years left of my life and I have to work, eat. one tube of glue per record.. Ill have to buy in bulk :) I work in a vinyl record store and clean records, never do this.
I've done this dozens of times and gotten great results. But one thing
I've noticed about almost all the wood glue cleaning videos is that they
make it much more complicated than it has to be. For example, applying
the glue on a spinning turntable and then spreading it around with some
kind of plastic card. Not necessary at all and actually a really good
way to get glue all over your turntable if you're not careful. Instead,
first place the record on a flat surface, not the turntable, and apply
the glue in a spiral around the record. Next, using your finger spread
the glue out to cover the vinyl. Unlike using a card this works the glue
down into the grooves where you need it to be. The glue doesn't have to
be a consistent thickness at this stage because it is a liquid and
assuming that the room temperature is reasonably warm, when you set
aside the record to dry on a level flat surface the glue will even
itself out well enough.
Also you don't need to let the glue dry completely. If you let it dry
completely it becomes brittle and that makes it harder to peel off in
one piece which is ideal. Peeling the glue while it is still slightly
pliable gives a better chance of all the glue coming off in one sheet.
If you're going to let the glue dry completely, apply packing or duct
tape in strips from the label out on the dried glue with a tab of tape
hanging over the outside edge of the record. This gives you something to
pull the glue up with and hopefully keeps the glue from cracking off in
pieces
Is there an example of the method your mentioning?
What kind of example are you looking for? I use basically the same method as the video except for the changes I outlined.
you're using the wrong glue then - it should never harden totally - you need to use a PVA (or vinyl) glue
Never use your fingers to clean anything! It completely defeats the purpose of doing so to begin with!
FTARCHIVE Thanks for the added info. Will try it this week
Dramatic improvement! Quality of sound, dynamic range, etc. improved
Whats crazy is you can actually play the wood glue disk thats left over it will be in reverse, but it plays. Wood glue method does work
I recomand getting a junk turntable fro goodwill so you dont fuck your good one up
Tried playing the removed glue. Doesnt work except on Scooby Doo reruns.
You had to make copy of it using epoxy may be, then you would get original tracks. Glue made negative from your master.
Next....use the turntable to make some pottery!!
Oh, yeah... Also; Stick a Bottle on it ... And begin to play; "Strip Game" !!!...
The only thing I've noticed you need to be careful of is getting the glue on the label and on your turn table.
Audio/broadcast engineer here, doing this over 50 years. Basic wood glue (Titebond works) don't need a stiff card, your finger will do. Let the glue dry clear, peel it off. Don't waste money on snake oil, brushes, soaps, disk cleaning solutions.
Posting this on a few of these videos to give a hard-earned lesson. DO NOT USE ELMER'S WOOD GLUE TO CLEAN LPs!!!! It dries brittle and flakes off like old paint, rather than "peeling" like it should, which makes it a pain in the ass and can damage your record since you likely will need to scrap or pick it off the playing area. As if this wasn't bad enough, glue bits can stick in the deeper grooves, and now loud snaps play on the record I tried it with. Now - I've used Elmer's for years and it works great for gluing WOOD, but is lousy for this specific hack.
I tried again with TITEBOND II, and it worked very well. Came off in one piece. Can't say anything about Gorilla or other brands.
Serves you right for doing something so obviously childish like spreading glue all over your records like its a kids play party when a bit of warm water and a soft rag is gentler and works just as well without stripping polymer off the vinyl..
@@bottomendbliss this is used for restoration - not routine cleaning (for which I do use special solvent and a microfiber cloth). I tried Titebond II on a bargain-bin $1 record that popped and scratched like crazy... After an application of glue, it played like new. I was impressed. Not all glues are equal though and the right brand matters.
If you don't want to do it, and don't try it. No need to be a prick.
@@shionyr This does the opposite of restoration. Its beyond ridiculous. It’s like trying to explain common sense to a child. Just wake up to yourself and look at what you are doing. When you peel that glue off your record as ridiculous as that sounds, the glue does not peel off perfectly or completely. What in your right mind made you think it did? . It leaves deposited that can only be removed with alcohol or a detergent and mild abrasion. You are also peeling off layers of polymers that are specifically applied during manufacture. Do some reading about how vinyl records are made. The specific compounds used and their purpose. I can’t believe all this isn’t obvious and grown adults are painting their vinyl with glue.
@@bottomendbliss so apparently you're a chemical engineer. Why don't you make a video educating others in the chemistry of why this is a bad idea? I know there are risks but when it comes to records beyond all hope (to which I've also used a deep-cleaning brush I have specifically for that purpose) it's a good solution.
Also why don't you go comment on other users? There are hundreds of idiots in this thread for you to be smarter than. Go have fun :)
Using the correct base woodglue does work, but people should know that a badly scratched record, like in the video, will still sound scratched, only less. It is not a miracle method, it just cleans the record deeply, it does not make it factory fresh! See also www.discofilm.eu
Peter 69 as long as it gets it clean enough for a pc run,I'm good.
This has been done for years, started when records came about. The radio stations use to do that all the time..
The crackling sound mostly came from the static... so I think if you ionize the record with the laser after using the wood glue would work even better!
WOW who would have thought you could actually make the beach boys sound better !!!
Using this method, ill be able to clean my record collection in roughly 9 years......
Or, After many years, your child would be keepin' to do this,
Grumbling like;
"Can't believe... How could my Dad be so Dummy ?" !!!..
Nice video, pleasure to watch!
I tried this but now I can't hear the woodwinds.
I can’t tell if your joking or not
@@clintroot9271 wood glue jokes
LMFAO
I'm going to try this! brilliant idea thanks for the video.
You didn't play enough of help me Rhonda😅i love the beach boys I know every song they ever did
I love pet sounds I have it on a LP
I have other albums by them too
Enjoyed your video, Eric. Amazing difference between the before and after!
Thanks Gary S.
Just be careful in the application. Let the glue dry for a full 24 hours. Let it 2 days if you are concerned. Remove the hardened glue with a plastic device. A pointed Bic pen cap works great. Or a plastic knife.
Or better yet use a wooden tooth pick.
If you use Titebond II it should come off in one peel. Maybe a few scraps around the edges, though.
Too close to the label
I usually run the record through the RCM to remove any remaining residue.
I've tried this method twice, but didn't became significant success. Guess disks conditions was already not enough acceptable for this practice. Well, I'm gonna try it again. Thanks a lot
I have done this and wood glue works great it has done a miracle in some records I have
I tried super glue. It didn’t work. Lol
You're silly turkey aren't you LOL
just throwing this out there but this made me drop the smart phone for a good old vinal tonight. beach boys endless summer! I love the pops of records. its sounds like years of over listening. when on pops a Lot it means its one of your favs. 24 and love the oldies my dad grew up to
I tried this once but was to afraid to play the lp, You really got to do a 2nd cleaning before you put it back on the tt. I use isoprophyl alcohol ,distilled water & a Q-tip
That would do a great job cleaning records
I tried this on previously cleaned albums, it made no difference. It's easier with record cleaning fluid and brush.
sometimes it's not the dirt that causes the plaque to have a popping sound or surface noise, but the scratches that cause the surface noise to appear
I'm amazed that antiquated Pioneer Receiver still works.
Eric, if you use a fan, it usually takes only about a half hour to dry. Also, be aware that the wood gluing process causes static(that's the remaining pops you heard)so you might want to try very lightly running a dryer sheet over the record a few times before playing it. I have done this to records that look pretty rough, but now sound near mint. As long as the scratches are not too deep, the glue can work wonders.
Running a dryer sheet? Seriously? Never heard that before..
Partly true. Tearing the glue does leave a static __charge__ (not to be confused with radio static-like hiss/crackle) which can attract dust. However, the pops are not caused by the newly acquired static charge, but are due to permanent scratches on the record. The pops were always there but could not be distinguished over the rolling crackle.
I have just made a video with several before and after sound clips from cleaning with wood glue and record skin/disco film (the official product). I can't post links here, so please search for "SOUND CLIPS: Record cleaning with wood glue and Disco Film"
Cheers, I don't know how they expect us to hear the difference just from the speakers of their unconnected soundsystem
How to make crêpes
Vinyl tasting ones!!
My favorite Beach Boys record.
Awesome! HUGE Difference
Not to mention you have a copy of the record embedded in the wood glue - a positive master so to speak.
on think you're going to like how much it improves the record.
Nice Job, thanks for the video!
You're welcome.
That works really well
It works so impressed
Wow great experimenting
3:02 WE HAVE A MASTER COPY LOL
Did it work as well as it did on mine?
Definitely going to have to try that...
Analogis clean (Lenco clean) but with Vetril liquid, from 50 years and for the rest of my life !!!
Good deal
Wonderful video. I dig The Beach Boys
Thank you for sharing
I had scratches on CDs and DVDs and couldn´t play them, or they jumped a number or chapter. Added toothpaste on surface and rinsed with water and voila...played like perfect. Perhaps it could work on vinyl as well.
'wood glue'm together. They stay real cleen that way.
oh man your just getting glue all over your record player wtf dude.
What you are hearing are clicks and pops. Software can take those out.
definitely improved
Take a drink every time he says "supposedly".
I've got some old Beatles records i wanna try but I'm terrified at thtesame time....
I tried that with a couple of
records of mine.
if you put the glue peel on the turn table does it play the beach boys, but upsidedown?
Wipe the dust off the crackel you still hear it from scratches no wood glue fixing that.. just use a record cleaner and you can listen right away instead of waiting the whole day and getting glue on your turntable
Ive tried this method a few times and I have had problems every time removing the glue. The glue did not come off in one piece, I had to remove multiple small pieces of glue which took a lot of time.
When doing this, you should ONLY use Titebond II (blue label). Out of all the proprietary formulas, I've found Titebond II to be the most flexible, and adheres to the record the least.
Help me rhonda, help help me rhonda...
If it makes you happy
what type of wood glue do you have because all I know is MINE IS WHITE AND Icant get it to go on SMOOTH and also using a "stiff card' doesn't work AND WHEN I PEELED IT OFF IT LEFT A "FILM " A "PATTERN" ON THE RECORD!!!whats wrong? is it the glue?
Dude you got glue on your nice turntable! Tsk-tsk
in most cases THIS WORKS in most cases. I have a problem with spreading the glue without getting it on the record label or evenly on the RUN OUT GROOVE (which I have to clean seperatly with something else) and using a STIFF CARD well how THICK does it have to be? Using your finger is better....it wont remove ALL the "Crackles" but most of it. somehow some records seemed to be CAKED with dust I HAD ONE and it worked miracles except for the skip....but when I tried to clean an OZZY OSBOURNE album I got from a thrift store....well lets just say the record still has dried glue (flat) in it. (or something else0 but when I used it on a JONATHAN WINTERS COMEDY ALBUM it was 'distorting' but the glue took care of it...but still hard to spread ect... without too much or too little in the run out groove ect...also I tried playing one of the glues off the record it doesn't work so its not worth it
Great. 5.00 dollars in glue and 2 days to clean 1 album
Tyler Withers - In many cases that's less money AND time compared to trying to find and buy a new record.
Do you have and more of those cards? I have a lot of dirty vinyl to clean.
So cool
just throwing this out there but this made me drop the smart phone for a god old vinal tonight. beach boys endless summer! I love the pops of records. its sounds like years of over listening. when on pops a Lot it means its on of your favs. 24 and love the oldies my dad grew up to
Trying this on an absolutely filthy copy of Abbey Road that my mom gave me.
It's currently drying.
+Reptile Nexus How did it turn out?
Did you get glued to the record? If not, would love to hear an update.
chewybang
It didn't work all that well. Glue didn't come off in one solid piece.
Reptile Nexus Thanks for the update! I have a terribly dirty Led Zeppelin III and Metallica' Kill Em All records that need some deep cleaning. Not sure how to go about it without breaking the bank.
It worked for me, just make sure you use a thick layer of the glue and let it dry for a long time, don't try to peel it early.
Will this work with Titebond original wood glue? I'm hoping I didn't make a mistake and use the wrong type.
Hope you didn't try it. The two formulations are very different when dry. Titebond I dries more like Elmers wood glue and is brittle. Titebond II dries more flexible, and allows one to peel it off the record.
I can't believe he is pouring glue over a turntable, that is just asking for trouble.
Good sir
Woah, my right ear.
Great result! Luckily I found the exact same glue available here in Finland so Im confident to try this out. So the glue set for a day, i.e. 24 hours? Thanks for a good presentation.
Does wood glue help with lifting scratches from vinyl LP??
No, it doesnt. It just removes dust
How many prank calls did you get? Lol.
If anyone tries this they nuts, if you do this and leave glue in the vinyl this will fuck up your needle and then the rest of your records, just check the record on the bin! Problem solved.
You don't have to use a toothpick or fingernail or... Bring the glue to the edge and use packing tape to remove the glue.
Try and play the glue print on the turntable now!!
I wonder what would happen, if you tried playing the dried glue on a record player.
That sounds as, if you bought that, in a record store, yesterday
Absolute best way to clean a beach boy record apply the glue by using a sponge paint brush as the record spins make sure to get all over let sit for a day drink some tea smoke a fatty then wake up get out your mallet don't use that sissy rubber one a metal mallet then think of your ex wife sleeping with your best friend one summer while youre at work and smash it to hell
I tried this several times and noticed no difference at all. It's possible that the master plates used to print the discs could be faulty, in which case no amount of cleaning is going to help. There'sno way to know unless you know the condition of the record when it was first pressed. The results were ruining three albums. Water helped get rid of some of the glue issues but not all. I highly suggest you don't do this. Try more gentle methods like a little dish washing soap and water.
Where can you buy this plastic?
Can someone help me?? Everytime i try and do this the glue comes off as little chunks
Looks like a messy process if one does not have a steady hand
smh
I cannot believe he laid the LP on a FLUFFY TOWEL in order to pull the glue off.
hi，what's your turntable brand？
Where do I find this wood glue?
Will this screw up the stylust
Lowes or home depot.
There are so many scratches on there... maybe a belt sander?
I doubt if its the same record
1000 more to go!
But did anyone ever called you for real estate
great, now i’m gonna have to listen to the beach boys on repeat all week! not that that’s a bad thing :-)
could work , but I have only 50 years left of my life and I have to work, eat. one tube of glue per record.. Ill have to buy in bulk :) I work in a vinyl record store and clean records, never do this.
Lol, it'll work fine on a charity shoppe Mrs Mills Party Album. Plick.
I cant get it smooth----I did last night and its still drying
Yeah I might be needing some real estate. I bought AMC and we're going to the Moon 🙌🏽💎
I did. The global is print doesn't work even though it does produce a mirror image of the record. It's too floppy.
What record was that?