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  • Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
  • The existence of giants may be debatable in Middle-earth, but Tolkien's use of them in his early legendarium is very real. Today, we explore the appearances and references of giants (and stone-giants) in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and also dive into Tolkien's abandoned writings.
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    Giants - Angus McBride
    Giant - BFME2
    Bargrisar - War in the North
    Giant - The White Council
    Tarlang - Ralph Damiani
    Cave Troll - John Howe
    dwarf king - artigas
    Giant - BFME2
    Giant - BFME2
    Forest edge - Felix Englund
    Into the Lone-lands - Alan Lee
    Riddles In The Dark - John Howe
    A Thunderstorm in the Mountains - Matěj Čadil
    Nearing the Secret Door - Alan Lee
    Hobbit & horse - Catherine Karina Chmiel
    Giant 4 - BFME2
    Forest Creek - Felix Englund
    An Unexpected Party - Alan Lee
    Bilbo closeup - Kinko White
    Bilbo - Kinko White
    Misty Mountains - Steve Airola
    Misty Mountains - Painted Dragon
    Dark valley - Felix Englund
    Bilbo returning home - Daniel Dougherty
    Bilbo- Elrodimus Flash
    Bilbo at his desk - Abe Papakhian
    Beorn's Hall - J.R.R. Tolkien
    At Beorns Hall - Ted Nasmith
    gandalf - John Howe
    Beorn - Anke Eißmann
    Gandalf - Skullb*st*rd
    Giant 6 - BFME2
    Giant 5 - BFME2
    Riddles in the Dark - Alan Lee
    Riddles in the Dark - Daniel Govar
    I am Gandalf - Abe Papakhian
    Hillmen and Wolfdogs - Jan Pospíšil
    Giant 7 - BFME2
    men at pool - Turner Mohan
    Minas Tirith - Alan Lee
    Mindolluin - Alan Lee
    Minas Tirith - Aronja Art
    Minas Tirith - Kinko White
    mountainside lake - Felix Englund
    Beren and Luthien - Ralph Damiani
    thingol and luthien - steamey
    Luthien - Sara M. Morello
    Lúthien Tinúviel - Alan Lee
    Luthien Dancing in the Moonlight - Anna Kulisz
    The Choice of Luthien - Jenny Dolfen
    Luthien - Jenny Dolfen
    Luthien Tinuviel - Jenny Dolfen
    Luthien Tinuviel - Janka Latečková
    Lúthien Reveals Herself to Celegorm - Ted Nasmith
    Luthien Tinuviel - Antti Autio
    Luthien Tinuviel - Šárka Škorpíková
    Luthien Tinuviel - Daniel Dougherty
    Luthien of Doriath - Marya Filatova
    Lúthien at Tol Galen - Ted Nasmith
    Lúthien prepares her escape from Hírilorn - Anke Eißmann
    Lúthien Escapes Upon Huan - Ted Nasmith
    Bilbo and trolls - Elrodimus Flash
    Forest farm - Felix Englund
    Troll - JG Jones
    Fantasy landscape - Felix Englund
    snow trolls - Turner Mohan
    Misty Mountains - Felix Englund
    Gandalf - Jenny Dolfen
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Комментарии • 304

  • @juanchoguerrero9143
    @juanchoguerrero9143 23 дня назад +204

    This isn’t a thunderstorm it’s a thunder battle

    • @Hi-fd4cw
      @Hi-fd4cw 23 дня назад +10

      Has real “that’s no moon” energy to it

    • @clancyjames585
      @clancyjames585 22 дня назад +4

      It's a special thunder operation...

  • @Holammer
    @Holammer 23 дня назад +144

    Sweden is littered with large boulders or 'Glacial erratics' left by the Ice Age and they are known as "jättekast" (lit: giant throw).
    In folklore, people believed Giants got annoyed by the piercing sound of church bells so they threw boulders in an attempt to silence them.

    • @SvengelskaBlondie
      @SvengelskaBlondie 23 дня назад +18

      A local folk tale from my parts of Sweden talk about the GIant "Visst" and how he created the island known as Visingsö. He wanted to cross the lake Vättern and meet up with his love interest. There's a wooden statue of him that's next to one of the roads that go through Huskvarna, the Ica Maxi in Jönköping also have some artwork in their entrance of the giant Visst.

    • @TheLordOfFireAndBlood
      @TheLordOfFireAndBlood 23 дня назад +6

      Dosen’t it come from the old tales of norse mythology with the jötnar

    • @k-la-k6828
      @k-la-k6828 22 дня назад

      Grendel?

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 22 дня назад +5

      @@TheLordOfFireAndBlood Yes, giants have been around in Nordic myth and folklore since the Vikings and most likely before.

    • @TheLordOfFireAndBlood
      @TheLordOfFireAndBlood 22 дня назад +1

      @@mokarokas-1727 yes but do churches believe in giants

  • @ArawnsFire
    @ArawnsFire 23 дня назад +59

    Like Vampires and Werewolves, giants were part of Arda’s ancient past. Giants while rare by the Third Age were indeed part of Middle-Earth.

    • @cojanemanuel8319
      @cojanemanuel8319 3 дня назад

      Vampires and werewolves are present in middle earth?😮😮

    • @fant2sy
      @fant2sy День назад

      @@cojanemanuel8319 both created by sauron in the yt and 1st ages

  • @RobbyBurney
    @RobbyBurney 23 дня назад +94

    The art he used for the giants is (mostly) from battle from middle earth game series. One of the better RTS games

    • @themole4369
      @themole4369 23 дня назад +7

      I hate the giants in that game. Their range and destructiveness as pieces of siege equipment is insane. I've lost so many battles against AI goblins simply because of the giants.

    • @AdDewaard-hu3xk
      @AdDewaard-hu3xk 22 дня назад +1

      Cart before the horse.

    • @marcekessen8003
      @marcekessen8003 17 дней назад

      I loved that game

  • @SvengelskaBlondie
    @SvengelskaBlondie 23 дня назад +27

    Here in Sweden, some of our church bells used to have rune inscriptions on them. One of the reasons was that it was meant to "chase away witches and giants" when the church bells rang. Sadly, allot of church bells where lost when some of our kings chose to repurpose them into cannons, I think there's a few still left that are several hundreds of years old (some are quite big, the biggest weighing in at a few tons).
    From a quick check, the oldest church bells we have where found outside of Uppsala in a field that was being plowed, it came from the 12th century. That church bell is on display at the Swedish History Museum. The oldest in current use is found at Ödskölts kyrka i Dalsland, it also came from the 12th century (roughly the middle of the 12th century). The oldest one with rune inscriptions came from the 13th century, it was found at Saleby kyrka i Saleby, This church bell was made in 1228.

    • @TheLordOfFireAndBlood
      @TheLordOfFireAndBlood 23 дня назад +3

      Im, a swede and iv’e yet to notice them are they written in ancient norse runes or in early swedish?

    • @SvengelskaBlondie
      @SvengelskaBlondie 23 дня назад +1

      @@TheLordOfFireAndBlood Norse runes, at least the older one's are.

    • @TheLordOfFireAndBlood
      @TheLordOfFireAndBlood 23 дня назад +1

      @@SvengelskaBlondie are they on catholic or orthodox churches

    • @SvengelskaBlondie
      @SvengelskaBlondie 23 дня назад

      @@TheLordOfFireAndBlood just do an internet search for "kyrkklockor runor" and you will get quite a few answers.
      "Åtta medeltida kyrkklockor berättar spännande historier. En del är fyllda med teckningar av sedelärande fabler, andra med skyddande runor, en tredje med ryska kyrilliska tecken - ett krigsbyte från Ryssland. Klangen från kyrkklockorna blev det tydligaste utrycket för skiftet mellan asatro och kristendomen."

    • @SvengelskaBlondie
      @SvengelskaBlondie 23 дня назад

      @@TheLordOfFireAndBlood if you look for "kyrkklockor runor", will give you lots of answers.

  • @newworldastrology1102
    @newworldastrology1102 22 дня назад +11

    C S Lewis friend of Tolkien, also had stone-throwing giants,
    in The Silver Chair, part of the Chronicles of Narnia/

  • @perskarva123
    @perskarva123 23 дня назад +17

    Please for the love of the Valar make a LOTR audio book! I love your voice acting fr.

    • @LozPlaya
      @LozPlaya 20 дней назад

      He can't. that would violate copyright laws, unless he gets a license.

  • @WooogaTooga
    @WooogaTooga 23 дня назад +53

    It's worth mentioning too that Treebeard was originally "Treebeard the Giant" before Tolkien settled on the Ents. So it would seem that giants are predecessors to Ents in some way in Tolkien's imagination.

    • @peterjay3257
      @peterjay3257 23 дня назад +17

      Enta is Anglo-Saxon for giant.

    • @WooogaTooga
      @WooogaTooga 22 дня назад +7

      @@peterjay3257 exactly

    • @FlorentPlacide
      @FlorentPlacide 22 дня назад +4

      This is quite pertinent ! When one describes what giants can and could do Ents come to mind as they can do it all (and the did)

    • @TijmenHatesads
      @TijmenHatesads 19 дней назад

      >In that case a stone giant made out of stone isn't that far off a wood giant made out of wood.
      >???
      >The Hobbit is canon?

    • @WooogaTooga
      @WooogaTooga 19 дней назад +1

      @TijmenHatesads The stone giants are only made of stone in the Jackson film. Tolkien doesn't describe the giants outside of them being large

  • @michaelwilliams949
    @michaelwilliams949 22 дня назад +5

    He may have been a professor but he remained as a boy at heart. He loved filling stories with dragons, but he clearly knew that a mythology simply wouldn't be complete without giants.

  • @3mmdm32
    @3mmdm32 22 дня назад +18

    I believe Gandalf said He would need to find a friendly Giant to block the tunnel.

    • @w.martin2108
      @w.martin2108 20 дней назад +4

      He mentions that in the video

  • @justindurfee9375
    @justindurfee9375 23 дня назад +17

    The poem about Luthien's hair sounds like a stylization of the story of Rapunzel altered to fit in the tales and histories of Middle-earth. No doubt Tolkien would have taken as much inspiration from such children's stories as he did from Norse, Greek and Old Englinsh mythologies.

    • @valentinkambushev4968
      @valentinkambushev4968 23 дня назад +5

      There are also seven houses of dwarves, just like Snow White has seven dwarves. That's too much of a coincidence.

    • @justindurfee9375
      @justindurfee9375 23 дня назад +3

      @@valentinkambushev4968 Very true.

    • @rcrawford42
      @rcrawford42 21 день назад +3

      Seven pops up in lots of legends; one of the "mystic" numbers.

  • @gabrielshoebrigde6399
    @gabrielshoebrigde6399 23 дня назад +13

    Giants are one of my favourte races in middle earth and fantasy at that matter, im glad someone finally mentioned them

  • @DrForrester87
    @DrForrester87 23 дня назад +24

    Aw yeah, more Nerd of the Rings!

  • @CartoonHero1986
    @CartoonHero1986 23 дня назад +65

    Don't forget Tolkien was writing these stories and legends of Middle Earth pre Plate Tectonics. So a lot of even Developed and Educated Cultures still had folklore as to how geological structures like Mountains and rift valleys formed. He was likely just borrowing something that existed in old local folklore that was already obscure but would hold preconceived lore from other sources in the Anglo Saxon/Celtic/Welsh/Pict/Manx etc history of the Islands.

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 23 дня назад +9

      not pre, but there was scientific debate about it during his lifetime that stopped in the 60ies after it was definitively settled.

    • @Cyballistic
      @Cyballistic 23 дня назад +4

      Giants makes more sense

    • @FinrodFelagundTheFair
      @FinrodFelagundTheFair 23 дня назад +1

      And you are completely right, mellon nin. People tend to forget that Prof. Tolkien was a linguist well before he wrote anything resembling the Legendarium. They also forget that he is the reason we even have Beowulf or the Saga of Kurumo(?) From Icelandic myths.
      In those sagas, the heroes or lack thereof in Kuromo's case(as he was a huge inspiration for the Children of Hurin. Particularly Turin himself.) Face off against giants. And Beowulf did so twice. So, it isn't too farfetched to believe that at some point that Prof. Tolkien wanted the giants in his Legendarium. And just like in the sagas, the giants are there, but in the times of the heroes and the reader, it is but speculation.
      I hope that spreads some light on the issue of giants in the Legendarium. Ultimately I believe that Tolkien took inspiration from the sagas he translated and left them as something that was debated in his universe as well.

    • @JenMaxon
      @JenMaxon 22 дня назад +1

      @@FinrodFelagundTheFair Except Beowolf was first translated some time in the 18th century, I think - and there have been a good number of translations since then. Or is that not what you meant?

    • @FinrodFelagundTheFair
      @FinrodFelagundTheFair 22 дня назад +4

      @JenMaxon Pardon me, I meant that as far as Beowulf, it was his translation that made widespread distribution, and Prof. Tolkien was the first to translate the Icelandic sagas. I apologize for the lack of clarity on my part and the use of a blanket statement due to laziness.
      Kemeble first translated the Epic in 1837. But, he fumbled the translation. Changing too much, thus changing the context of the poem overall.
      Tolkien's version stays closer to the details and rhythm of the original and extremely close to the original sense of the poem, which has been attributed to Tolkien's scholarly knowledge of Old English, whereas Heaney, on the other hand, succeeded in producing a translation better suited for the modern reader.
      I appreciate you calling me out on my own laziness mellon nin. Due to that, I was given the opportunity to clean it up and clarify the information I had given. I faer nîn linna nan glass, mellon nin.

  • @EinsteinInTraining938
    @EinsteinInTraining938 23 дня назад +7

    Has frodo ever worn wigs

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 15 дней назад +1

      What kind of question is that lmao

  • @jsimeoneafc2370
    @jsimeoneafc2370 23 дня назад +24

    Have you thought of making a theory video if Boromir claimed the One Ring?

    • @ScooterDoge
      @ScooterDoge 23 дня назад +1

      He goes invis, takes it to Gondor, saurons forces invade Gondor, game over. There, I saved you some time.

    • @gondorianslayer4250
      @gondorianslayer4250 22 дня назад +1

      It's not that simple, he gets corrupted.

  • @FinrodFelagundTheFair
    @FinrodFelagundTheFair 23 дня назад +6

    People tend to forget that Prof. Tolkien was a linguist well before he wrote anything resembling the Legendarium. They also forget that he is the reason we even have Beowulf or the Saga of Kurumo(?) From Icelandic myths.
    In those sagas, the heroes or lack thereof in Kuromo's case(as he was a huge inspiration for the Children of Hurin. Particularly Turin himself.) Face off against giants. And Beowulf did so twice. So, it isn't too farfetched to believe that at some point that Prof. Tolkien wanted the giants in his Legendarium. And just like in the sagas, the giants are there, but in the times of the heroes and the reader, it is but speculation.
    I hope that spreads some light on the issue of giants in the Legendarium. Ultimately I believe that Tolkien took inspiration from the sagas he translated and left them as something that was debated in his universe as well.
    Note: Copy and pasted from my reply to another comment.

  • @OnlyGhostMusic
    @OnlyGhostMusic 21 день назад +1

    The Luthien poem is so beautiful. Didn't expect to have shivers in a video about giants.

  • @VGGPTA
    @VGGPTA 23 дня назад +4

    Weirdest thing is that yesterday I looked for a video on the stone giant couldn’t find a single one but then today you come out with one crazy coincidence

  • @DagorBragollach
    @DagorBragollach 23 дня назад +6

    fun to think that even to those in Middle Earth, there was some mysterious creatures partially shrouded in legend.

  • @soniaromero11
    @soniaromero11 23 дня назад +22

    Yes giants are ancient , I like this post, thank you.

  • @unclerojelio6320
    @unclerojelio6320 22 дня назад +3

    Now I need a breakdown on the similarities and differences of giants, ogres, and trolls.

  • @bdonaghu
    @bdonaghu 23 дня назад +7

    You have not fully watched the video until you hear the "...and Debbie"

  • @TheHoneyBadger-yh5vj
    @TheHoneyBadger-yh5vj 23 дня назад +12

    May God bless you and your work sir 💙💙💙 deep respect for your work and passionate narration from Croatia Europe 😇😇😇

  • @aaronmillam9838
    @aaronmillam9838 16 дней назад

    You're in depth search through Tolkiens notes is always incredible and helps me learn so much 🎉
    If I had could make a small suggestion: maybe cut some of Luthiens poem as most of the latter half doesn't cover giants?
    I loved your reading of it, though. Got the cadence just right 🤌

  • @saintskutt
    @saintskutt 3 дня назад

    It's worth noting that Torin also mentions the giants in "The Hobbit" during the thunderstorm in the mountains: "This won’t do at all!” said Thorin. “If we don’t get blown off, or
    drowned, or struck by lightning, we shall be picked up by some giant and
    kicked sky-high for a football.” “Well, if you know of anywhere better, take us there!” said Gandalf,
    who was feeling very grumpy, and was far from happy about the giants
    himself." Love your videos.

  • @kylelavelle8082
    @kylelavelle8082 23 дня назад +3

    Interesting!! Thanks again Nerds of the Rings for the Incredible productions.
    💥💥💪😎⚔️💥💥

  • @LongThom422
    @LongThom422 22 дня назад +1

    Yesssss! This is what we've been waiting for!!

  • @valentinkambushev4968
    @valentinkambushev4968 23 дня назад +253

    When haters realize the stone giants weren't just made-up for the Hobbit trilogy.

    • @TheGeneralGrievous19
      @TheGeneralGrievous19 23 дня назад +9

      Didn't You read The Hobbit?

    • @valentinkambushev4968
      @valentinkambushev4968 23 дня назад +31

      @@TheGeneralGrievous19 Yes, I have. I am just talking about the people who haven't.

    • @madjimjaspers7603
      @madjimjaspers7603 23 дня назад +9

      When you have lotta big rocks in your backyard. 🪨

    • @KororaPenguin
      @KororaPenguin 23 дня назад +8

      And I wonder if that scene in the _Hobbit_ book would have given Eustace Scrubb and Jill Pole flashbacks to the earlier of their own two close calls with giants. (I know, different Inkling)

    • @VGGPTA
      @VGGPTA 23 дня назад +3

      He meant for the movies

  • @captivatednightshade1432
    @captivatednightshade1432 23 дня назад +3

    Great video, Matt! ❤

  • @colinbaldwin313
    @colinbaldwin313 23 дня назад +14

    If giants were simply overgrown Men, shouldn't they have created cities and kingdoms as grand as Gondor and Minas Tirith - grander, in fact, because they'd have to be built to scale for these enormous people? I guess they seem more akin to trolls because they appear to fulfill a similar role: living in wild and dangerous places, popping up on one's adventures. If they were really Men, one would expect them to leave a greater impact on the world of Middle-Earth.

    • @danielloewen2857
      @danielloewen2857 22 дня назад +4

      I guess they were so big they didn't feel the need for proper shelter? Idk man they throw rocks for fun

    • @colinbaldwin313
      @colinbaldwin313 22 дня назад

      @@danielloewen2857 Again, that doesn't sound very Mannish to me.

    • @The_Tradie_Trainer
      @The_Tradie_Trainer 22 дня назад +4

      There are still men to this day that live without cities or kingdoms, having done so 1000s of years.

    • @colinbaldwin313
      @colinbaldwin313 22 дня назад +1

      @@The_Tradie_Trainer Should we then assume that the Giants are essentially enormous Wild Men, equivalent to the Dunlendings and Druedain?

    • @The_Tradie_Trainer
      @The_Tradie_Trainer 22 дня назад +3

      @@colinbaldwin313 idk about you but I’m not assuming anything of the sort.

  • @lilgrublet
    @lilgrublet 21 день назад

    Thank you for this video. One of my favorite of the more obscure parts of the Professor's Legendarium.

  • @Ben-eo4fu
    @Ben-eo4fu 22 дня назад

    YESSS FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR FOREVER

  • @adpirtle
    @adpirtle 23 дня назад +7

    I think it's interesting how he slowly moved away from the concept, until you get to TLotR, when they are eventually replaced entirely,. Personally, I think Ents feel better suited to this world.

    • @jaroslavpesek6642
      @jaroslavpesek6642 21 день назад

      Ents are wood giants. The name ent even means giant.

  • @maxpower6658
    @maxpower6658 4 дня назад

    This is the examplecof a brilliant mind. A great wrighter of story or song does not give everthing away.

  • @jonahblood-et8wv
    @jonahblood-et8wv 23 дня назад +3

    Just want to comment so I'm reminded of this later. I love your videos and you're a great storyteller.

  • @Beryllahawk
    @Beryllahawk 22 дня назад +1

    I love the sly little puns in there. Tall Tales indeed!

  • @ManthonyHiggs
    @ManthonyHiggs 22 дня назад +1

    throwing a big rock around and smashing trees has got to be pretty fun

  • @davepowder4020
    @davepowder4020 22 дня назад +1

    And now I know where the names in Western Gondor in LOTRO come from. I didn't expect that! Tarlang indeed! 😃

  • @andrewthielmann5342
    @andrewthielmann5342 21 день назад

    One of my favorite aspects of War in the North (which is a criminally underrated game, despite it's flaws) was that one of the boss battles is a Stone Giant.

  • @vogel1776
    @vogel1776 23 дня назад +8

    I am glad they added the stone giants to the Hobbit film trilogy. Good stuff.

    • @t.kersten7695
      @t.kersten7695 23 дня назад +2

      but a bit pointless because it didn´t lead to anything. but at least it had some great visuals.

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 19 дней назад

      Same.

  • @user-uh8ph6yy5j
    @user-uh8ph6yy5j 22 дня назад

    Keep up the good work I looove lotr lore videos

  • @ASu-yw3tf
    @ASu-yw3tf 20 дней назад

    I’m a big fan of “The Lord of the Rings” books and I LOVE your videos. I’ve learned a lot from them.

  • @michaelcandello8678
    @michaelcandello8678 22 дня назад +4

    Ya know NotR, I have appreciated your content so much over the last year since I discovered your channel. Your research, thoughtful explanations, and presentation of possibilities is very entertaining and thought provoking. You recent award is well deserved! As a matter of fact, your channel is one of only two that I watch the ads all the way through IOT help your channel out. Keep up the good work!

  • @annaroselarsen4218
    @annaroselarsen4218 22 дня назад +6

    Yes I love this!

  • @Bill-uf1sj
    @Bill-uf1sj 10 дней назад

    In this video,the author discusses how when 2 Thunderstorms meet. 1 summer when my kids were alot younger,we went on vacation in Maine.We knew some people that rented a cottage.Being on a lake it was great,1 night there were 2t-storms at the other end of the lake,what a display!We weren’t getting any rain but the lightning and thunder from the storms echoed to our end of the lake.I had never seen anything like that before,I sat on the short dock,maybe 15 feet long in a chair and watched in fascination as the lightning battled and thunder boomed!

  • @kristenrosales2919
    @kristenrosales2919 23 дня назад +3

    Bless my soul! The legends are true!

  • @theshadowstrike6
    @theshadowstrike6 23 дня назад +5

    Awesome!

  • @mattpburgess
    @mattpburgess 13 дней назад

    I love the idea that a fantasy world might have it's own fanciful myths and legends; that maybe giants don't exist, but they are referred to as if they do (in a similar way to which people refer to Big Foot and the Loch Ness Monster).

  • @MrRjhyt
    @MrRjhyt 22 дня назад +2

    Such a fleeting and oblique reference in the book. Transformed into such a concrete and real scene in the film. Such a shame...

  • @jasonsinn9237
    @jasonsinn9237 19 дней назад

    Hey Matt, have you considered doing a video about the Drúedain? I'm reading Unfinished Tales for the first time and was really surprised to discover how interesting they were despite having very little officially written about them. I would also be interested in hearing some of your theories about them.

  • @zacharycampbell5626
    @zacharycampbell5626 11 дней назад

    In my headcanon the relation between trolls and giants always seemed very similar to that of the huorns and ents - the idea of them balancing out always appealed to me

  • @stormstrider1990
    @stormstrider1990 5 дней назад

    In the game Battle for Middle Earth 2, the mountain giants are giant siege monsters of the Goblin faction, similar to the Mumakil of the Mordor faction, matching Tolkien's initial idea of the giants as servants of Morgoth. To me personally, the way the Hobbit describes the giants as a force of nature, and the stories of men and hobbits you described, gives me the impression they were ancient creatures of Arda's past. They might have been numerous once, but dwindled overtime, until only a small number remained in the mountains of Middle Earth. They're nether good not evil. They answer to no Dark Lord, nor do they answer the call of aid of anyone else.

  • @Arturoperezp
    @Arturoperezp 23 дня назад +4

    maybe they really liked longbottom leaf and meant to call them stoned giants

  • @smelisi
    @smelisi 10 дней назад

    Another terrific video -- but I'm curious, where does the story of Tarlang appear???

  • @Kappa....
    @Kappa.... 22 дня назад

    Good vid ;D

  • @Darkgeran7
    @Darkgeran7 23 дня назад

    Can you do a video on the variags please I’ve been curious about that race of men for some time

  • @mikegardner107
    @mikegardner107 23 дня назад +3

    Thank you for this study of some of the more obscure characters. Can you, or have you, done a study on yet another of Tolkien’s characters, indeed a race, that Peter Jackson left out - Ghan Buri Ghan and the Pukel men who guided the Rohirrim along the old and hidden road to safely arrive at the Pellenor fields in time for the battle. And apparently destroyed the Orc host sent to waylay and destroy the Rohirrim, for nothing was ever heard of those orcs again. I think in honor of their fealty in preserving the Rohirrim King Elessar ceded the territory along the mountains to the Pukel mean and forbade men to ever travel there.

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  23 дня назад +6

      Great question! I'm actually planning to do one on them soon. Working on commissioning some artwork as there isn't a whole lot existing for them. Coming soon!!

    • @gandalf4751
      @gandalf4751 23 дня назад +2

      😍✅

    • @mikegardner107
      @mikegardner107 23 дня назад

      And the Stone Guardians at the entrance to the Paths of the Dead who verbally warned Aragorn and the host of the Dunedin who rode with him and Legolas and Gimli that THE WAY IS CLOSED!
      Also, in LOTR when Sam enters the tower of Barad Dur(?) to rescue Frodo from the Orcs a pair of stone lions at the door have an invisible barrier between them that throws him back. He then uses Galadriel’s Light of Elbereth (?) to open the barrier - and a loud gong sounds. I’m not sure if there was any other action directly from the stone lions when Sam “Rang the front doorbell.” or not.

  • @Shirebaggins.
    @Shirebaggins. 23 дня назад +7

    I see the giants in the hobbit as an allegory for the thunder storm where the dwarves were, since they are nowhere else mentioned.

    • @samsmith2635
      @samsmith2635 23 дня назад +5

      Then why does Gandalf speak about it literally?

    • @Shirebaggins.
      @Shirebaggins. 23 дня назад

      ​@@samsmith2635he was trying to impress beorn, so just like bilbo when he returned to the county, he exaggerated the story of the storm to seem more epic, Gandalf himself told bilbo, that he would have one or two stories when he returned to the county and he could choose embellish the stories, or in this case, polish them to make them better

    • @gandalf4751
      @gandalf4751 23 дня назад

      Stone giants truly exist in Middle Earth because it is clearly written in the hobbit book

    • @Shirebaggins.
      @Shirebaggins. 23 дня назад +1

      ​@@gandalf4751which is precisely a book made for children and has a lot of things in it and for them and is not found in Tolkien's other books, so it should not be taken into account

    • @gandalf4751
      @gandalf4751 23 дня назад +1

      @@Shirebaggins. Gandalf and Thorin speak very clearly about the stone giants in Beorn

  • @pamelah6431
    @pamelah6431 22 дня назад

    Reminds me of CS Lewis' giants tossing rocks in The Silver Chair (Narnia).

  • @devinreese1397
    @devinreese1397 23 дня назад +2

    There were no giants included in the Silmarillion except for the Ents which means Giant in old english. They were written in the Hobbit.

    • @MrEmiosk
      @MrEmiosk 21 день назад

      Tolkien did intend to rewrite the hobbit to match the tone of lotr. With the silmarillion focusing nearly all on the elves themselves, not the world of men. The silmarillion and all works after are c.r.j.tolkiens work (the silmarillion finished by him) many things can be said but C.R.J is not his father and all the work he's done should not be taken as true as Tolkien imagined it.

  • @robertsimpson7424
    @robertsimpson7424 21 день назад +1

    Always loved giant lore, even better from Tolkien.

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 19 дней назад +1

      Genesis 6 talks about giants too.

  • @gandalf4751
    @gandalf4751 23 дня назад +3

    Stone giants truly exist in Middle Earth because it is clearly written in the hobbit book

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 дня назад

      True, but the reason they exist in The Hobbit is because Tolkien needed something exciting and cool to tell his kids for their bedtime story.

  • @istari0
    @istari0 23 дня назад +1

    The problem is that it is hard to reconcile Gandalf's statement to Beorn with Bilbo's account or the other mention of giants around Gondor, which really do sound like tall tales or myths and legends set within Middle-Earth itself. I'm inclined to say giants did exist but beyond that we really don't know anything about them.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 дня назад

      Maybe giants were the inspiration for the Argonath.🤔

  • @jack1235ify
    @jack1235ify 22 дня назад +1

    I can only imagine if Sauron had charmed a few giants to his side during the ear of the ring..and how the story may have changed

    • @The_Tradie_Trainer
      @The_Tradie_Trainer 22 дня назад

      I wonder if that’s where JK Rowling got the idea from? Lol

  • @TarMody
    @TarMody 17 дней назад

    I believe the stone giants of the Misty Mountains may be related to Melkor. As is known from lore, these mountains are a geographical feature raised by Melkor in order to stop the advance of Vala Oromë. A reflection of Melkor's will spread over Arda. Beings incarnated from this will can be described as giants. This theory also explains their malevolent characteristic. Although they do not have a physical existence, this will may also be the cause of the hallucination in Bilbo's mind.

  • @starscreamjan6155
    @starscreamjan6155 19 дней назад

    You shoukd do lotr readings i love Listening to you

  • @superhaven3647
    @superhaven3647 23 дня назад

    I wonder if you’re gonna eventually talk about other mentioned things like mermaids, sprites, sylphs, fays, etc.

  • @Fanelan053
    @Fanelan053 23 дня назад +2

    Pretty cool

  • @xix94
    @xix94 22 дня назад +1

    do a video on Beorn

  • @michaeljebbett160
    @michaeljebbett160 23 дня назад +1

    I think a fascinating video topic would be how Tolkien influenced Dungeons and Dragons
    Some of its concepts are ripped straight outta LotR, and the Estate even sued the creators at one point

    • @rcrawford42
      @rcrawford42 21 день назад

      "The phone is circular metal banding!"

  • @witext
    @witext 19 дней назад

    In old Norse mythology, the mountains came from giants dying & turning to stone, as people thought mountains looked like people lying down
    Because of this, in Norway, there’s a particularly mountainous region called “jøtunheim” or giantshome which is also the name of one of the places in midgård

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 19 дней назад

      I prefer Middle Earth over Norse Mythology.

  • @erikbender1967
    @erikbender1967 21 день назад

    Til next Saturday!

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 19 дней назад

      Currently May 1st 2024.

  • @paulsarnik8506
    @paulsarnik8506 23 дня назад +5

    Um, it was a figment of Bilbo's imagination why did Thorin speak about "being kicked skyhigh for a football?" 😮🤓😎✌🏻

    • @shokmusic_AC
      @shokmusic_AC 23 дня назад

      Good point! I did remember a dwarf mentioning this but forgot which one said it.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 дня назад +1

      That is the movie. Nothing like that is in the book.

    • @shokmusic_AC
      @shokmusic_AC 22 дня назад +2

      @@Enerdhil Chapter 4: Over Hill and Under Hill: "This won't do at all!" said Thorin. "If we don't get blown off or drowned, or struck by lightning, we shall be picked up by some giant and kicked sky-high for a football."
      "Well, if you know of anywhere better, take us there!" said Gandalf, who was feeling very grumpy, and was far from happy about the giants himself.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 дня назад +1

      @@shokmusic_AC
      Oh. That was stupid of Tolkien.🧐 Football? Worse than golf.

    • @shokmusic_AC
      @shokmusic_AC 22 дня назад +1

      @@Enerdhil True 🙂

  • @shanexhall
    @shanexhall 22 дня назад

    Finally!!!

  • @shaggycan
    @shaggycan 23 дня назад +2

    I did think the choice to just make them gargantuan earth elementals in the films was interesting.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 дня назад

      Too much money wasted on CGI.😞

  • @TreborPaulson
    @TreborPaulson 23 дня назад +1

    5:55
    “not builded but carven”
    Is that directly from the page?

  • @t.kersten7695
    @t.kersten7695 23 дня назад +3

    who knows what other great stories Tolkien might have had created if he wanted so. he could´ve filled his world with even more lifes and wonders.
    and giants can be from different groups or even races with different abilities - some more stupid than others.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 дня назад

      Lifespan was the only thing that was able to stop Tolkien from writing.

  • @nerdwatch1017
    @nerdwatch1017 22 дня назад +1

    Man could you plan for an awesome video idea I thought of for you. Say you become the Kevin Faigi type person over at Warner Brothers and you were given full rights to control the building of what I like to call the TCU Tolkien Cinematic Universe which already has the 2 trilogies and the rings of power series. What stories from all of Arda would you make in movie form or series. I’m asking because you are literally the Nerd of the Rings Bro!!

  • @Firenutz
    @Firenutz 20 дней назад

    “I want to hear more about Debbie, dad. Why didn't they put in more of her talk, dad? That's what I like, it makes me laugh. And Nerd wouldn't have got far without Debbie, would he, dad?"'

  • @null-4699
    @null-4699 22 дня назад

    Interesting comments about Minas Tirith being carved by giants. It's worth remembering that many of the anglo saxons, who existed among the ruins of a far more advanced civilisation, the Romans, (exactly how later men existed among numenorean ruins) thought Roman ruins were the work of a race of giants. Enta Geweorc was the term for this (Ent or Ettin being an old english word for giant). Being a scholar of ancient languages and a lover of old english legends, maybe this inspired Tolkien?

  • @MalakaiSayer
    @MalakaiSayer 18 дней назад

    Please do a video about what if Gandalf instead of Saruman turned evil

  • @el_chico1313
    @el_chico1313 7 дней назад

    can u please upload a list of ost u use? especially the one for the war of wrath

  • @TheLordOfFireAndBlood
    @TheLordOfFireAndBlood 23 дня назад

    I would’ve liked if tolkien had written about the stone giants when the fellowship were passing the path of caradras and maybe he could write something like this: They walked long, through the dark tunnels and halls of moria, and ever over them rained rocks and mists of dust upon them,”it is of giants work,stone giants battleing amongst eachother”-Gandalf told them.

  • @barukkazhad8998
    @barukkazhad8998 15 дней назад

    In England we have at least one story involving a giant dropping his shovel of earth making a hill

  • @flashkraft
    @flashkraft 21 день назад

    I like to think Giants were part of the original creation of Arda. Like Ents and Giant Eagles. But most were corrupted into a decrepit form by Morgoth which is where Trolls come from.
    Much like Orcs were originally elves but corrupted into a monstrous form and then later cross bred with men.

  • @whiteknight257
    @whiteknight257 22 дня назад +1

    Pretty sure the prow of Gondor, Is sold rock. And the city is built around it.

  • @CounciloftheRings
    @CounciloftheRings 23 дня назад +5

    Damn didn't expect to be the second comment! Right on time then!

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 дня назад

      Get back to work on a video!! 😅

  • @GloriousRAT
    @GloriousRAT 22 дня назад

    This is another aspect of our writing where we differ. I leave no doubt about races mentioned in my narratives. Yes I have Giants... Stone Giants (so named for the appearance of their skin, rough and gray) and Mountain Giants (named simply for their homeland, since they appear quite Human). The Mountain Giants are seen by the Company in book five.

  • @kylepessell1350
    @kylepessell1350 22 дня назад

    The idea of giants was probably lifted right out of Norse mythology like with elves and dwarves. Calling them 'full of cunning and wizardry' certainly brings to mind the greatest rivals of the Aesir.

  • @wweminehead5458
    @wweminehead5458 23 дня назад +4

    The Dawn shall take you

  • @cofpaddy
    @cofpaddy 20 дней назад

    I think they're likely like Ents, rarely seen by men or even Elves anymore, few in number, clever and don't often engage in the wider affairs of Middle Earth.

  • @alexsmith7313
    @alexsmith7313 22 дня назад

    Makes sense that a species obsessed with stone like the Dwarves living in mountain ranges would choose the far more difficult path of digging out and living under the mountains; they’re getting boulders thrown on them outside their holds.

  • @smthsmth
    @smthsmth День назад +1

    Elves, Dwarves, Orcs... but noo, no stone giants!

  • @samuelbattershell3413
    @samuelbattershell3413 22 дня назад

    I would say that Bilbo, as the in-universe author of The Hobbit, is not the most reliable of narrators, as proven in The Lord of The Rings, pre-released of the second edition of The Hobbit.

  • @PerHummer
    @PerHummer 23 дня назад +1

    How about a video on dunlendings?

  • @robgeraghty6205
    @robgeraghty6205 22 дня назад

    I don't think it's surprising that Tolkein would describe a thunderstorm as a battle when he was a scholar of Scandinavian history and mythology. His illustration of the mountain path showed lightning, but not giants. I think I imagined the stone giants as truly made of stone, like the trolls, only bigger. The description from Gondor sounds like a creation myth similar to many from the Australian Aborigines where characters from stories became parts of the landscape.

  • @wallypagayanan4555
    @wallypagayanan4555 22 дня назад

    Bless me lad the legends are true-Orin

  • @toncek9981
    @toncek9981 21 день назад

    Concerning the Hobbit - the whole story is a recollection written by Bilbo, no matter who says what, it can all be just a story embellishment by Bilbo himself... IMHO if they do exist, then it's bit weird that Sauron recruited armies from all over the place, but not giants.

  • @MC-810
    @MC-810 22 дня назад

    Yes, Bilbo has been known to embellish stories, but he has never been deemed an unreliable narrator.
    I think therefore you have to take at face value what Gandalf said in his comment about finding a halfway decent giant to block off that porch and his discussion with Beorn.
    Giants are real but we don’t know a lot more about them.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 дня назад

      Yes. Bilbo embellishes, but never misquotes Gandalf, so we can be sure the Stone Giants existed.