It's truly important to mention that fun is the main objective when you get to try your first water-board-sport. Sup, then sup-with-sail, possibly sup-with-wing. And from there on, anyone can decide what they like and how far they wanna take it. When we were young, we were just fooling around on BIC Dufour, Highfly etc., sometimes without sails, just with peddles....like a sup! Joy and fun is where it's at.
Da musst Du eher ein Starboard WindSup Touring mit den Abrisskanten nehmen. Hatte ich heuer auf dem Comersee mit 5,5 Gun SupSail und war voll am Gleiten. Das ging richtig ab und hat richtig Spaß gemacht. Sonst hatte ich nur das Wingzeug dabei - war eine schöne Abwechslung. Ich benutze das Windsup auch für Touren bei leichtem Wind (meine Frau Paddelt und ich segel so mit)
Every now and then I'll take my windsup out (exocet 11'8) with retractable daggerboard and have a great time on an 8.0 or 9.5. It'll get planing with a better than stock fin, and reliable for all the float. And it won't leave you stranded downwind with the daggerboard. The downside is just that it's big and heavy.
Bin mal mit einem 10er Starboard Whopper mit Abrissgummikante 36 kmh gefahren. Das geht schon aber es klebt natürlich wie nix und man merkt jede Welle. Das wichtigste ist Spaß auf dem Wasser egal womit 🤙
I saw the action on the water. You really pushed hard but it didn’t look that funny 😂 And really a difference to your other runs with the new Slalom Board 😮 Thanks for sharing it I’m the guy with orange sail at 1:50
I have the rrd 150 inflatable windsurf board. a lot of fun in light wind....can get it up planing and was able to keep up with traffic with others on hard roads.
Nice one. I am thinking for a few years now that brands should develop inflatable freeride board for beginners, with footstraps and proper fins. So that people can enjoy their first planning runs without having to carry this huge board around. They could also use as sup when wind is off. Hopefully they can get addicted to planning then and start getting in the crazy hassle of having carbon boards all over their garage.
@@MrZsooti there was one, the decathlon tamaho freeride 500, it had a fixed fin box. lately it was reduced to 300 bucks and now its not sold anymore! sadly i missed on that. still there are plenty out there theese days i guess, but they are all good for learning but not for riding fast. this way, they wont compete
Moin, gute und ehrliche Betrachtung! Ich bin mal auf so einem ähnl. Windsup angefangen. War zum allg. Üben voll ok. Und mittlerweile nutze ich parallel zum Surfbrett ein Starboard Windsup (mit Abrisskante), macht hier und da auch Spaß und immer ist auch kein Platz zum Transport eines Surfbretts, ein Sup dagegen geht immer.
cut the edges with a knife so that it's sharp. it gets you plaining. or glue sth sharp to the edge... Started 1 year ago on an inflatable, now i switch to a 7m sail not shure if i ever gonna switch to hardboards - the tipping point is somehow different. real problem is the fin, it wont last forverer if you really go fast with it. thought about this for some time: biggest advantage of an inflatable is, you wont get hurt and scratch your knees if you fall onto your board! :P
Looks like it wants to either have more weight on the nose, or for the mast step and the sailor position to be moved forward. It was sticking almost 45 degrees out of the water at some moments... Like, a level board is a fast board, and so on. Would be interesting to see how it'd behave with a drybag full of camping/touring gear on the nose:) Also, have you tried removing the front fin? That should allow one to steer/trim the board with one's feet (a daggerboard makes that really difficult at speed, actually more like completely changes/reverses the way the board responds to feet steering).
Nice video! I am planning to buy a SUP board with a support of sail, and maybe later a sail. What kind of SUP is that you can install the sail on it? 👍
Hi Great video. I'm thinking about buying a SUP with windsurf connections and I have some questions: 1- is the connection the same for all the sails or there's a limit? (The idea is to buy a used sail) 2- How many meters of sail do you suggest for a beginner 75kg? Thank you🤙
Hi Nils! Cooles Video. Deine Aussagen über den Einstieg ins Surfen kann ich persönlich bestätigen. Ich habe vor ca. 6 Jahren (mit 45 Jahren) auf einem Naish Crossover Wind-SUP das Surfen gelernt. Heute habe ich 3 Hardboards und foile auch seit 2 Jahren. Auf meinem Kanal habe ich einiges dazu eingestellt. Mein Abo hast Du mit diesem Video sicher ;-)
@@WindsurfingNils absolut! allerdings sind die abrisskanten zu stumpf, meine ist aus silikon, habe sie mit einem teppichmesser einmal durchgeschnitten, dann ist sie scharf! jetzt gleitet das board genauso über die wellen wie ein normales, also mit abheben. die schwertfinne muss man natürlich einfach weglassen (ist aber gut bei leichtwind, meine ging neulich leider wegen seegrass einfach verloren =(( allerdings, nach einem jahr muss ich sagen, dass sich das board vor der finne inzwischen leicht wölbt, es ist also auf dauer nicht die beste lösung. bzw die meisten hersteller müssten da einfach noch nachlegen. natürlich hat auch nicht jeder lust, mit einem messer an seinem sup rumzuschneiden, allerdings sind die schon robust, mit gewebe verstärkt, und ich kenne auch einen laden der reparaturen anbietet sogar
thats cool ! im new in this sport.. does your sup something that you can install the sail ? i dont have.. is there any mod you can install? thanks !! :)
You wind surfed in the wrong position, with large boards (don't mind if inflatable or not) feet toward the stern and shoulder toward the bow, mast arm stretched out, hold the boom not too close to the mast, rather move the mast hand closer to the wider area of the boom
I have tried an inflatable SUP with a sail and as a beginner I struggled to keep it sailing straight (I think it always wanted to turn downwind), controlling the direction of sailing and turning. Any ideas why I had those issues?
Planing with the middle fin will never work well I think. With boards with daggerboards, you'd also slide it up and away when going on a broad reach or going planing. Please try again while removing the middle fin.
Nope, its much worse without middle fin, I tried it, but with wing. It adds course stability and gives possibility at least to try returning to the start point. My opinion - need to change middle fin to bigger one
Thanks for trying Nils. What about testing a much better inflatable windsurf board like the JP Magic air, Starboard airplane 242/255 or even the brand new STX 242 under the same wind conditions? You may reach the 30 knots speed then.
Бесполезная комбинация. SUP придуман в первую очередь для компактного хранения и перевозки. А мачту так компактно невозможно упаковать. К SUP подходит только надувное крыло.
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It's truly important to mention that fun is the main objective when you get to try your first water-board-sport. Sup, then sup-with-sail, possibly sup-with-wing. And from there on, anyone can decide what they like and how far they wanna take it. When we were young, we were just fooling around on BIC Dufour, Highfly etc., sometimes without sails, just with peddles....like a sup! Joy and fun is where it's at.
Interesting, now lets put a foil in it next time!
Starboard Airplane would be a more dedicated Windsurf inflatable and interesting to compare
Da musst Du eher ein Starboard WindSup Touring mit den Abrisskanten nehmen. Hatte ich heuer auf dem Comersee mit 5,5 Gun SupSail und war voll am Gleiten. Das ging richtig ab und hat richtig Spaß gemacht. Sonst hatte ich nur das Wingzeug dabei - war eine schöne Abwechslung. Ich benutze das Windsup auch für Touren bei leichtem Wind (meine Frau Paddelt und ich segel so mit)
At least you wore your impact vest.
Safety first 😉
Every now and then I'll take my windsup out (exocet 11'8) with retractable daggerboard and have a great time on an 8.0 or 9.5. It'll get planing with a better than stock fin, and reliable for all the float. And it won't leave you stranded downwind with the daggerboard. The downside is just that it's big and heavy.
Bin mal mit einem 10er Starboard Whopper mit Abrissgummikante 36 kmh gefahren. Das geht schon aber es klebt natürlich wie nix und man merkt jede Welle. Das wichtigste ist Spaß auf dem Wasser egal womit 🤙
google sagt das ist ein hardboard!?
@@PolopKarob also mein Board aus 2017 ist ein isup. Glaube es gab das Board in beiden Versionen
I saw the action on the water.
You really pushed hard but it didn’t look that funny 😂
And really a difference to your other runs with the new Slalom Board 😮
Thanks for sharing it
I’m the guy with orange sail at 1:50
It is a fascinating video, and windsurfers should use it to attract suppers to try windsurfing. Good job Nils.
I have the rrd 150 inflatable windsurf board. a lot of fun in light wind....can get it up planing and was able to keep up with traffic with others on hard roads.
Loved this, awesome review! 😄
Nice one. I am thinking for a few years now that brands should develop inflatable freeride board for beginners, with footstraps and proper fins. So that people can enjoy their first planning runs without having to carry this huge board around. They could also use as sup when wind is off. Hopefully they can get addicted to planning then and start getting in the crazy hassle of having carbon boards all over their garage.
There are windsup's on the market but not so many shops webshops are selling it.yet
@@MrZsooti there was one, the decathlon tamaho freeride 500, it had a fixed fin box. lately it was reduced to 300 bucks and now its not sold anymore! sadly i missed on that.
still there are plenty out there theese days i guess, but they are all good for learning but not for riding fast.
this way, they wont compete
Noch viel spannender die Frage: what happened to the left boot?
Moin, gute und ehrliche Betrachtung!
Ich bin mal auf so einem ähnl. Windsup angefangen. War zum allg. Üben voll ok.
Und mittlerweile nutze ich parallel zum Surfbrett ein Starboard Windsup (mit Abrisskante), macht hier und da auch Spaß und immer ist auch kein Platz zum Transport eines Surfbretts, ein Sup dagegen geht immer.
cut the edges with a knife so that it's sharp. it gets you plaining. or glue sth sharp to the edge...
Started 1 year ago on an inflatable, now i switch to a 7m sail not shure if i ever gonna switch to hardboards - the tipping point is somehow different. real problem is the fin, it wont last forverer if you really go fast with it.
thought about this for some time: biggest advantage of an inflatable is, you wont get hurt and scratch your knees if you fall onto your board! :P
Looks like it wants to either have more weight on the nose, or for the mast step and the sailor position to be moved forward. It was sticking almost 45 degrees out of the water at some moments... Like, a level board is a fast board, and so on.
Would be interesting to see how it'd behave with a drybag full of camping/touring gear on the nose:)
Also, have you tried removing the front fin? That should allow one to steer/trim the board with one's feet (a daggerboard makes that really difficult at speed, actually more like completely changes/reverses the way the board responds to feet steering).
Nice video! I am planning to buy a SUP board with a support of sail, and maybe later a sail. What kind of SUP is that you can install the sail on it?
👍
Hi Great video. I'm thinking about buying a SUP with windsurf connections and I have some questions: 1- is the connection the same for all the sails or there's a limit? (The idea is to buy a used sail) 2- How many meters of sail do you suggest for a beginner 75kg? Thank you🤙
great to address this im old school and these rubber things make me Cringe
Did you try without the center fin?
Hi Nils! Cooles Video. Deine Aussagen über den Einstieg ins Surfen kann ich persönlich bestätigen. Ich habe vor ca. 6 Jahren (mit 45 Jahren) auf einem Naish Crossover Wind-SUP das Surfen gelernt. Heute habe ich 3 Hardboards und foile auch seit 2 Jahren. Auf meinem Kanal habe ich einiges dazu eingestellt. Mein Abo hast Du mit diesem Video sicher ;-)
vielen dank, Ich denke den Einstieg ins Windsurfen so einfach wie möglich zu gestalten ist der Schlüssel um den Sport zugänglicher zu machen.
@@WindsurfingNils absolut! allerdings sind die abrisskanten zu stumpf, meine ist aus silikon, habe sie mit einem teppichmesser einmal durchgeschnitten, dann ist sie scharf!
jetzt gleitet das board genauso über die wellen wie ein normales, also mit abheben. die schwertfinne muss man natürlich einfach weglassen (ist aber gut bei leichtwind, meine ging neulich leider wegen seegrass einfach verloren =((
allerdings, nach einem jahr muss ich sagen, dass sich das board vor der finne inzwischen leicht wölbt, es ist also auf dauer nicht die beste lösung. bzw die meisten hersteller müssten da einfach noch nachlegen.
natürlich hat auch nicht jeder lust, mit einem messer an seinem sup rumzuschneiden, allerdings sind die schon robust, mit gewebe verstärkt, und ich kenne auch einen laden der reparaturen anbietet sogar
thats cool ! im new in this sport.. does your sup something that you can install the sail ? i dont have.. is there any mod you can install? thanks !! :)
The right comparison in planing should be without the daggerboard fin...
You wind surfed in the wrong position, with large boards (don't mind if inflatable or not) feet toward the stern and shoulder toward the bow, mast arm stretched out, hold the boom not too close to the mast, rather move the mast hand closer to the wider area of the boom
does look fun..
I have tried an inflatable SUP with a sail and as a beginner I struggled to keep it sailing straight (I think it always wanted to turn downwind), controlling the direction of sailing and turning. Any ideas why I had those issues?
No middle fin in center of board, have to put one on
What is the spot location? It looks nice
Hvide Sande Denmark, south surf spot ;)
Planing with the middle fin will never work well I think. With boards with daggerboards, you'd also slide it up and away when going on a broad reach or going planing. Please try again while removing the middle fin.
Nope, its much worse without middle fin, I tried it, but with wing. It adds course stability and gives possibility at least to try returning to the start point. My opinion - need to change middle fin to bigger one
hello what is the model of your SUP ? Thank
But will it be frustrating for learners?
where do you put the mast foot on an inflatable sup? Is it a special sup?
Yes. There are some SUP's with hole for mast base.
@@georgikumanov8799 also on inflatable SUPs? I've never seen one
Thanks for trying Nils. What about testing a much better inflatable windsurf board like the JP Magic air, Starboard airplane 242/255 or even the brand new STX 242 under the same wind conditions? You may reach the 30 knots speed then.
that would also be interesting, if i have the chance to test it somewhere I'd give it a go
Why not put the sail on a canoe?
Because you would drink too much water
Moin Nils
Moin Thomas, wieder pünktlich am Start!
What a banana... Pls, lakes only and no gliding -)
That looks like the very thing that would keep people out of the sport. You can't say that was easy or fun.
Бесполезная комбинация. SUP придуман в первую очередь для компактного хранения и перевозки. А мачту так компактно невозможно упаковать.
К SUP подходит только надувное крыло.
true that its not very smart, still it works for beginners, and many people dont like getting theis seats dirty in cars
it would plane with no dagger ;)
Ah, du hast die Fußschlaufe hinter dem Mastfuß nicht benutzt! Das bringt bestimmt noch einen halben Knoten extra!🤣🤙