It's impressive how the gore, violence, desperation and frustration are easier to watch compared to Subaru's action these episodes. The way he just keeps on going against Emilia's wishes adn embarrasing her and himself in front of so many honorable people
This is the great filter for the whole series. Either you assert that there's nothing much left for the story and drop it or realize that this is a pretty unusual decision story wise and be somewhat intrigued
Seeing so many character flaws bubble up to the surface in the past few episodes for the first time really captured my attention. I love that it tackled his self-serving attitude hidden with "for Emilia" because I, at that very same time in my life, was behaving exactly the same towards someone I had feelings for, even down to the debt mentality. I did a LOT of self reflection after my first watch of this show, this episode in particular. Love seeing your reactions!
First time watching your videos, and damn you're probably one of the few who deeply understand Subaru as a character. Its rare to see a reactor who can empathise with Season 1 Subaru, especially during this portion of the story. Cos you're right.. its a mix of alot of things. He's not a bad person, he's just dealing with alot of internal issues. He can be charming, welcoming and likable.. but he oversteps his boundaries a little too much which is very dangerous in relationships of any kind. There's definitely a lot of mixed emotions and issues that drive his actions, which is very interesting to see in a main character. Love your discussions and empathetic vibe. Will definitely be watching more of your videos!
@@ExpertContrarian I mean, he's exactly where the writer wants his reader to be at this point. In that sense he gets everything which is rare when it comes to re:zero thanks to all the preconceptions people come into this show with.
Honestly I don't really understand people who drop the series because of this episode. I really love it, it showed what a flawed person Subaru is and how he needs to grow and develop. I dislike when the main character is perfect personally.
@@erfshadow380 agreed, any sign that the author is doing certain things deliberately instead of being trapped by tropes makes it so much more interesting
Ya, this exact fight between Subaru and Emilia is what was VIVID in my brain when you were talking about people inserting the idea of debt into their relationships and how its pure poison just a few episodes ago. I was like bro you have no idea how right you are. I love your point on the disconnect between the world and Subaru's actions to this point, and how its been framed/how we should view it. The show always does a great job putting the viewer in Subarus headspace, and framing things as such. Early on the show frames itself in a way that plays into Subarus delusions of how it all works, his ideas of fantasy stories, and how he frames and thinks about his interactions. We see and focus on what he sees and focuses on. I'd argue even the framing of how Emilia seems to respond as so positive to Subaru, much to your point of overly reading into the responses of the people we like, is part of this. Something I'm sure made worse for both us and Subaru by the time loop, and how much more we've invested into ideas of Emilia she has no knowledge of: re- "you saved me" and "I thought you'd understand". Is she this constantly nice and understanding, or was it just constantly the first week or so she knew him and still had a lot of patience? which comes to seem inhuman when your playing that same first week over and over? 12/13 is the first real decisive blow to that idea. Where the framing closes the gap, not because it moved, but because for the first time Subaru was forced to move so fully. And as his idea of 'Subaru the Hero' breaks down, so to does ours. The narrative framing being so uncomfortable as it tried to reconcile his actions as good when they clearly aren't, till it all comes crumbling down. Both a stab to the gut and weirdly a relief as the story confirms that wrongness. GAH I love this episode, it's so hard to watch, but it's so so important for making re:zero what it is.
Oh man. I've been waiting for this one. The rough episodes. This is one of two points that most people who watch this show either drop it or fall in love with it, mostly for the reasons you pointed out about how the character and his actions and the responses he's been getting have felt somewhat misaligned, and how appropriate it was for him to get punished for the pathological way he's been approaching his relationships. And it sure takes courage from an author to write a character showcasing some fundamental flaw or wrongness and then actually punish them for it. From an American perspective, I've gotten tired of shows like "Wandavision" showing people do awful things and get apologized to as if they were the one being victimized. Writing like that is just such an easy cop-out. But doing it like this runs the risk of making your audience hate the character their witnessing, or even hate the writing itself for putting them in the shoes of a character like this, letting them make bad choices, and punishing them which could make the audience feel like THEY are being punished for decisions they might actually relate to making. Suffice it to say, I deeply relate to Subaru. Even beyond the vicarious embarrassment. I'm almost ashamed to admit that I HATED this show on first viewing, but on a rewatch over a year later, I felt like I understood what it was trying to say to me. Felt like a gross mirror was being held up against me, and that's what made me feel like it was a truly special work of art. It also made me appreciate how important negative emotion can be for conveying a story/idea. It puts things into more context. I knew from the start you'd be the most fun to watch react to this. You just hit every nail on the head.
At the risk of unduly coloring your perception moving forward, the upcoming stretch of episodes, starting with this one, blew me away when I first saw them. There's some difficult stuff in there for sure, but they mean so much to me on both a personal level and as a lover of stories. I hope you can enjoy them as well (if 'enjoy' is really the right word), and I look forward to your upcoming videos. Thank you again for reacting to this series!
Aside from Subaru being misunderstood by a lot of ppl, i feel like a lot of people didn't undestand how much this hurt Emilia because it was Subaru who did this and broke his promise, and got hurt and asked her for gratitude afterwards. A lot of people just focus on him embarassing her. She definetely cared for him, especially with how the world treats her and then this happens. I am sure there is a lot of sadness, regret and guilt in there as well. From her perspective everything aboht Subaru must be so confusing. I am glad she stood her ground and called him out though. It is also sad that even if they make up and Subaru apologises and everything, the problem of the mismatch in how Subaru remembers things compared to others still remains and it will be harder to truly see eye to eye with someone.
I love rezero because most of the characters are flawed people that make them feel more relatable. Also, the author will actually make them be in these types of situations. And all these characters you are introduced in these eps are such great characters.
An interesting detail that wasn't mentioned in the anime is because of what happened. Julius was actually put under house arrest for what he did to Subaru here. Although most of us agree that Subaru had it coming, it technically wasn't a good look on Julius either.
@bilalahmed-bu7bi Are you sure? I read on the wiki that it was a trivia fact that wasn't in the anime? The quote is "After his fight with Natsuki Subaru at the very beginning of Arc 3, Julius was, in fact, punished for his reckless behavior and put under house arrest for an unspecified amount of time." Maybe my memory is off since it's been a long time, but I don't remember seeing that mentioned 🤔
@bilalahmed-bu7bi I went back and watched it. It's mentioned that Julius got punished but never specifically said what the punishment was. Felis asked Julius why did he get himself punished for what he did to Subaru. However, nowhere does it state the details of what the punishment was. The details were that he was put under house arrest for an undisclosed amount of time. Yet that never made its way into the anime.
Out of the horrifying deaths he has suffered and will suffer in the future, this still remains as the most painful episode to watch seeing Subaru humiliate himself in front of everyone and then get destroyed by Julius. Definitely Subaru's lowest point to date, but it was very important.
i would never criticize subaru after all he has gone through. I think we are looking at this from a regular boy and girl relationship but its not. No one is going to act perfectly going through the things subaru has up till this point.
A good thing to re evaluate is the opinion of why we don't like julius, is it because we saw something we did not like or is it because the main character saw something that did not sit well. Regardless of either options, is it justifiable
@@equinox3625 Initially it was because he stomped an obviously outmatched and already defeated Subaru, but the following episode adds some context. You make a great point. After watching this episode I was talking to a friend about how maybe there's an Eren type viewer phenomenon happening with Subaru, which is a dynamic I love
The amount of second hand embarrassment I (and like everyone I know) had at watching Subaru "white knighting" Emilia in front of hundreds of literal white knights is just unreal. Then watch him double, triple and eventually sink into a black hole of "You *owe* me" Emilia just hurts my soul, cause it's like looking into a mirror for some...
This is the least confusing start of an arc in Re:Zero and probably the most hard hitting. Every other past and future arcs throw us head first into 10000000 plot threads and have us sit there and question everything. Here they made sure to postpone the craziness to focus hard on just Subaru and his desperation.
2 100% spoiler free things to point out. 1. In the light novels we actually learn that Emilia takes promises pretty serious even minor ones, thou iirc Subaru doesn't knows this. 2. If we take the other character's pov like Rem, Ram, and Emillia, Subaru actually looks like an amazingly capable person. He help Emilia retrieve the insignia, saved her from the Bowl Hunter, somehow is friendly with Reinhard, ends up at the Roswaal Manor, befriended everyone, befriended the entire village, aids in the sisters to have a better relationship, and saved the village (or at least kept them alive till Roswall returned). All this in like 1or2 months in the book. Which makes Subaru's rant even worse/pathetic. Here's a strong capable person whom seems to have just helped you out of genuine kindness, however in a moment of his weakness he quickly tries to blame them on you and states how much you owe him.
Emilia and Subaru the perfectly flawed protagonists of Re:Zero. They are 2 peas in a pod, both terrible at communicating their thoughts and emotions, both feeling incredibly isolated and scared, both never having real friendships, yet they both try too hard to be kind and virtuous at the expense of their own well being. These 2 episodes shows the worst of everyone in it. Emilia not recognising that withholding information and treating Subaru like a child will only push him to want to prove his worth, Subaru breaking Emilia's promise to try and "help" her. Rem enabled Subaru to go to the meeting despite Emilia's orders. Priscilla was simply herself (she is cool though), the knights of Lugunica are so petty that they would be willing to kill a servant over silly remarks that "damaged their egos", Reinhard kidnapped Felt, Bordeaux was a racist towards Emilia, Anastasia was fine with her knight beating up a non-combatant, etc.
LIGHT NOVEL CONTENT,but NOT a SPOILER: That whole scene in the courtroom was, of course, cut. every candidate had longer speech and was properly introduced. I know they had to cut some of it,but it actually leaves audiences confused. What dragon Crush is talking about ? Is that the same dragon Roswaal thinks of killing ? Why if she truly explained what she meant by that , people would not be to eager to vote for her ? Kingdom of Lugunica has a pact with a dragon. The dragon. Behind great waterfall. Dragon is even on their golden coins. Dragon protects people of Lugunica for hundreds of years, last time it was just 40 years prior to the main timeline, so it's still very much real. Royal family that was wiped out by mysterious plague which is actually debated to be a curse, not sickness, had dragon blood in their veins as a part of the pact. But Crush wants people of Lugunica to walk and stand on their own and she distrust the dragon after some events that made her wanting to break a pact very personal. It's explained in the EX-side novels more,but for now what these events are is still a spoiler,so I will be quiet about that. When Anastasia was introduced we also came to know that Lugunica is in shambles, economy and administration and corruption...and Anastasia was supposed to be a savior in that aspect. Julius was introducing her as a genius. Not mentioning that he himself had trouble with his family since he is supporting a foreigner. Priscilla was described as three times a widow after her very old husbands died shortly after marring her...not much else is known about her and Al expect Al was said to be gladiator not a proper knight. BUT anime cut something very important about Al. It's not a spoiler. They also didn't cut the scene from manga adaptation (way behind anime) and currently they have problem, because they do not know how to incorporate the scene and knowledge that was lost with it and how to bring it up again. So here goes: Aldebaran in the carriage told Subaru that he is from Japan as well and that he was isekaied to this world around 18 years ago !!! And he also doesn't know about circumstances. He explained he suffered some memory los after incidents here and there. What's more interesting is the fact that run in with thugs and Priscilla was not the first one Subaru had in the capital. BEFORE he was attacked when acompanied by Rem and Emilia. Rem made a short work of thugs. But they met Al there for a first time as well....and....Al knows Rem. Or he was thinking he knows her. He mistook her with RAM. AND....he said he is absolutely DISGUSTED that IT (meaning Ram, Rem or both of them) is still alive. Mystery. When Reinhard was explaining how he met Felt we came to know more details about losing rulling family. I mentioned plague-curse before when talking about Crush,the most likely winner (for now),but what I didn't say is that one member of the royal family was never found - dead or alive and that there was actually an order to take little princess away from the family in order to isolate her and give her a chance of not falling sick. Felt has characteristics of the previous dinasty - fangs, blonde-goldish hair and reddish eyes. Her age also more or less (she doesn't know when she was born) fits the timeline. So Reinhard is supporting probably actual heir. Nobility actually agreed with it ! And they said that even if she is the lost princess, they do not want her as their ruler,because she is still a gutter rat. Emilia actually had whole spectacle staged up with Roswaal. Her speech left WAY more impact than any other candidates. Roswaal pretended to actually dislike Emilia and supporting her only out of pity or out of fear. Puck appeared and threatened to freeze all the royal throne room. When Wise Men (haha) recognised Puck as the Beast of The End (this sweet kitty ?) and came to know Emilia has a contract with it they were ready to give her a throne !! Right here and then ! But Emilia only asked for fair chance to compete. Subaru also tried to intervene since he was not in on it (because,duh,he was supposed to not be there) and almost ruin the spectacle. (I am not sure how I feel about this,the whole dialogue there was weird). The line to Emilia said by Wise Man was not only about Subaru's declarationns, "you're not someone to be feared" was mostly about Emilia not taking the throne by force. Emilia, of course, as one judged by her looks, wants equality, but what she really is about is race prejudices. It was never said in the show, but demihumans are treated horrbily in general and there was a couple of very bloody wars with them. Last time demihuman war was around 40 years ago and it's still fresh in everybodis minds. Emilia claimed to end with racism and mistreatment and bring safety to the kingdom. Subaru mocked Julius desperatly trying to get under his skin, that he acts all high and might when he is not even a Sword Saint, title exclusive to Reinhard, legendary title and position passed form the one host in van Astrea family to another, person so powerful that is not allowed to leave the country since it's recognised as international or worldy threat. We came to know then that Julius is actually known as the Noblest of Knights (dunno how it is in English version, I am quite literal with it), the best of Knights for his virtues and accomplishments and as a knight ,but not in power, he is seen actually higher than Reinhard himself. Julius was put in the house arrest as someone mentioned already, for his duel with Subaru. But it was also explained that Julius went to duel Subaru knowing the consequences to actually protect him. If Subaru wasn't publicly, officialy humilated or beat up, he probably would been...killed by other knights. Thanks for reading if anyone has patience to :-)
I've watched this series a few times, and it's really good, but this episode is SO painful for me. Watching it once usually takes a couple hours because I have to pause and take breaks because of secondhand embarrassment and internal cringing. It's not a bad episode and doesn't sour Subaru for me at all, just like Sokka's sexism didn't ruin him for me, it's a character arc, for Subaru to grow, for that growth to be big and meaningful, he has to start in a really low place. Here that is, Subaru's rock bottom...as a character. In terms of his actual lived experience, (since I know you're further on Patreon I can allude to this), we know things get MUCH worse for Subaru. But this is the real start of Subaru's greater character arc, the pit he's gotta climb out of to become a 'hero' in his way. GOD it hurts to watch though. I don't even experience my own embarrassment that much these days, that part of my brain had a switch just flip off and break in high school, and still I find myself squirming at how...socially inept? (there's probably a stronger more accurate term for it) he is. Especially towards Emilia and the Knights.
Oh boi these are the fun episodes I always wanna skip on rewatches. Don’t mind me skipping thru/not fully watching this video lol. Tiz painful to watch D;
People never give Emilia enough of a hard time for how poorly she handled this. She treated Subaru terribly and didn’t explain anything about the situation. He’s objectively right that she needs his help. He just handled it poorly as well but because he’s a guy and the MC he gets all the heat
Everything he did here was detrimental to her goal. He is putting her on a pedestal, but he is also infantilizing her. Instead of letting her talk for herself, he butts in because HE has to be the one to protect her.
@@pepeedge5601 what is the point of your objectively incorrect comment? She handled the situation poorly. She only makes it out of season one alive because of Subaru. She treated Subaru like a child because she doesn’t realize the true danger that she is in and it led to her getting embarrassed. She should have explained things better(she didn’t explain things at all). Subaru spoke up because he was infuriated. Not because he thinks he has to be the one to do it. He’ll act rashly like that for anyone. You’re adding malicious intent that is not there
@@ExpertContrarian Are you 12? She could defend herself here without him. He brakes his promise by going there. When she is asked who this dude is, he interrupts her as well, claims that he is her knight, and starts a clownshow embaracing himself and her as well. He was specifically told to not come because he would do something reckless. Yes, he saved her life back in the cabin. But this mid season... how can Emilia draw a conclusion from events that did not happen? Does saving her allows him to insult her agency? Handled poorly? What are you talking about? She should have told him that they will probably insult her at the this political meeting that is specifically there to compare candidates? He was not supposed to be there. Also wrong. Subaru is selfish here. When he hears Al, Julius, Felix talk about how they are knight dedicated to a specific candidate he think to himself that "my feelings for Emilia won't come in second to anyone". He is competing in his mind. Expert contrarian? Your just a dude with dogshit takes.
It's impressive how the gore, violence, desperation and frustration are easier to watch compared to Subaru's action these episodes. The way he just keeps on going against Emilia's wishes adn embarrasing her and himself in front of so many honorable people
19:53 they actually have longer speeches in the novels, but they we're heavily cut down to make for the episode time.
This is the great filter for the whole series.
Either you assert that there's nothing much left for the story and drop it or realize that this is a pretty unusual decision story wise and be somewhat intrigued
@@equinox3625 This episode was great for me, totally caught me off guard in the best way
Seeing so many character flaws bubble up to the surface in the past few episodes for the first time really captured my attention. I love that it tackled his self-serving attitude hidden with "for Emilia" because I, at that very same time in my life, was behaving exactly the same towards someone I had feelings for, even down to the debt mentality. I did a LOT of self reflection after my first watch of this show, this episode in particular. Love seeing your reactions!
One of the nicest things about watching up to this point in the show is hearing how much it means to people and how it's helped them :D
First time watching your videos, and damn you're probably one of the few who deeply understand Subaru as a character.
Its rare to see a reactor who can empathise with Season 1 Subaru, especially during this portion of the story.
Cos you're right.. its a mix of alot of things. He's not a bad person, he's just dealing with alot of internal issues. He can be charming, welcoming and likable.. but he oversteps his boundaries a little too much which is very dangerous in relationships of any kind. There's definitely a lot of mixed emotions and issues that drive his actions, which is very interesting to see in a main character.
Love your discussions and empathetic vibe. Will definitely be watching more of your videos!
I appreciate it :D
If you want someone who is watching every possible thing about rezero then watch cawcawtv
Not really. He misunderstands a lot about Subaru and why he decides he needs to be involved.
@@ExpertContrarianwell i would really like to hear what h don’t understand about subaru? Lol
@@ExpertContrarian I mean, he's exactly where the writer wants his reader to be at this point. In that sense he gets everything which is rare when it comes to re:zero thanks to all the preconceptions people come into this show with.
Honestly I don't really understand people who drop the series because of this episode. I really love it, it showed what a flawed person Subaru is and how he needs to grow and develop. I dislike when the main character is perfect personally.
@@erfshadow380 agreed, any sign that the author is doing certain things deliberately instead of being trapped by tropes makes it so much more interesting
Ya, this exact fight between Subaru and Emilia is what was VIVID in my brain when you were talking about people inserting the idea of debt into their relationships and how its pure poison just a few episodes ago. I was like bro you have no idea how right you are.
I love your point on the disconnect between the world and Subaru's actions to this point, and how its been framed/how we should view it. The show always does a great job putting the viewer in Subarus headspace, and framing things as such. Early on the show frames itself in a way that plays into Subarus delusions of how it all works, his ideas of fantasy stories, and how he frames and thinks about his interactions. We see and focus on what he sees and focuses on.
I'd argue even the framing of how Emilia seems to respond as so positive to Subaru, much to your point of overly reading into the responses of the people we like, is part of this. Something I'm sure made worse for both us and Subaru by the time loop, and how much more we've invested into ideas of Emilia she has no knowledge of: re- "you saved me" and "I thought you'd understand". Is she this constantly nice and understanding, or was it just constantly the first week or so she knew him and still had a lot of patience? which comes to seem inhuman when your playing that same first week over and over?
12/13 is the first real decisive blow to that idea. Where the framing closes the gap, not because it moved, but because for the first time Subaru was forced to move so fully. And as his idea of 'Subaru the Hero' breaks down, so to does ours. The narrative framing being so uncomfortable as it tried to reconcile his actions as good when they clearly aren't, till it all comes crumbling down. Both a stab to the gut and weirdly a relief as the story confirms that wrongness.
GAH I love this episode, it's so hard to watch, but it's so so important for making re:zero what it is.
Oh man. I've been waiting for this one.
The rough episodes. This is one of two points that most people who watch this show either drop it or fall in love with it, mostly for the reasons you pointed out about how the character and his actions and the responses he's been getting have felt somewhat misaligned, and how appropriate it was for him to get punished for the pathological way he's been approaching his relationships.
And it sure takes courage from an author to write a character showcasing some fundamental flaw or wrongness and then actually punish them for it.
From an American perspective, I've gotten tired of shows like "Wandavision" showing people do awful things and get apologized to as if they were the one being victimized.
Writing like that is just such an easy cop-out.
But doing it like this runs the risk of making your audience hate the character their witnessing, or even hate the writing itself for putting them in the shoes of a character like this, letting them make bad choices, and punishing them which could make the audience feel like THEY are being punished for decisions they might actually relate to making.
Suffice it to say, I deeply relate to Subaru. Even beyond the vicarious embarrassment. I'm almost ashamed to admit that I HATED this show on first viewing, but on a rewatch over a year later, I felt like I understood what it was trying to say to me. Felt like a gross mirror was being held up against me, and that's what made me feel like it was a truly special work of art.
It also made me appreciate how important negative emotion can be for conveying a story/idea. It puts things into more context.
I knew from the start you'd be the most fun to watch react to this. You just hit every nail on the head.
At the risk of unduly coloring your perception moving forward, the upcoming stretch of episodes, starting with this one, blew me away when I first saw them. There's some difficult stuff in there for sure, but they mean so much to me on both a personal level and as a lover of stories. I hope you can enjoy them as well (if 'enjoy' is really the right word), and I look forward to your upcoming videos. Thank you again for reacting to this series!
Aside from Subaru being misunderstood by a lot of ppl, i feel like a lot of people didn't undestand how much this hurt Emilia because it was Subaru who did this and broke his promise, and got hurt and asked her for gratitude afterwards. A lot of people just focus on him embarassing her. She definetely cared for him, especially with how the world treats her and then this happens.
I am sure there is a lot of sadness, regret and guilt in there as well.
From her perspective everything aboht Subaru must be so confusing.
I am glad she stood her ground and called him out though.
It is also sad that even if they make up and Subaru apologises and everything, the problem of the mismatch in how Subaru remembers things compared to others still remains and it will be harder to truly see eye to eye with someone.
I love rezero because most of the characters are flawed people that make them feel more relatable. Also, the author will actually make them be in these types of situations.
And all these characters you are introduced in these eps are such great characters.
Look on the bright side, Subaru's outburst was so cringe that they were forced to take him somewhat seriously instead of just laughing at him!
At least he's not invisible!
Ah yes. Some of the hardest episodes to watch.
@@Silver82b sympathetic embarrassment off the charts
An interesting detail that wasn't mentioned in the anime is because of what happened. Julius was actually put under house arrest for what he did to Subaru here. Although most of us agree that Subaru had it coming, it technically wasn't a good look on Julius either.
@gantashiro978 it is mentioned in the anime as well, I'm pretty sure.
@bilalahmed-bu7bi Are you sure? I read on the wiki that it was a trivia fact that wasn't in the anime? The quote is "After his fight with Natsuki Subaru at the very beginning of Arc 3, Julius was, in fact, punished for his reckless behavior and put under house arrest for an unspecified amount of time." Maybe my memory is off since it's been a long time, but I don't remember seeing that mentioned 🤔
@@gantashiro978 I think it's mentioned in a later episode.
@bilalahmed-bu7bi I went back and watched it. It's mentioned that Julius got punished but never specifically said what the punishment was. Felis asked Julius why did he get himself punished for what he did to Subaru. However, nowhere does it state the details of what the punishment was. The details were that he was put under house arrest for an undisclosed amount of time. Yet that never made its way into the anime.
Only people who believe in primitive medieval standards would think that Subaru actually had it coming to be beaten unconsciously
love your reactions, bro
@@pat5t245 thank you !!
The date did happen offscreen. It was animated tho... In a pachinko machine LMAO
Out of the horrifying deaths he has suffered and will suffer in the future, this still remains as the most painful episode to watch seeing Subaru humiliate himself in front of everyone and then get destroyed by Julius. Definitely Subaru's lowest point to date, but it was very important.
yep. this span of episodes...
Second hand embarassment, let's gooo!
Definately a low point in Subaru's carreer as a butler.
Great reaction, I'm having a blast.
i would never criticize subaru after all he has gone through. I think we are looking at this from a regular boy and girl relationship but its not. No one is going to act perfectly going through the things subaru has up till this point.
funny you should mention Pitou because Felix actually has the same voice actor as them in the dub
37:38 from this cringebaru in this episode (s1 ep 13 ) to chadbarn in tomorrow (s3 ep 7) episode.
Barusu The GOAT
A good thing to re evaluate is the opinion of why we don't like julius, is it because we saw something we did not like or is it because the main character saw something that did not sit well. Regardless of either options, is it justifiable
@@equinox3625 Initially it was because he stomped an obviously outmatched and already defeated Subaru, but the following episode adds some context.
You make a great point. After watching this episode I was talking to a friend about how maybe there's an Eren type viewer phenomenon happening with Subaru, which is a dynamic I love
The amount of second hand embarrassment I (and like everyone I know) had at watching Subaru "white knighting" Emilia in front of hundreds of literal white knights is just unreal.
Then watch him double, triple and eventually sink into a black hole of "You *owe* me" Emilia just hurts my soul, cause it's like looking into a mirror for some...
This is the least confusing start of an arc in Re:Zero and probably the most hard hitting. Every other past and future arcs throw us head first into 10000000 plot threads and have us sit there and question everything. Here they made sure to postpone the craziness to focus hard on just Subaru and his desperation.
good reaction bro
2 100% spoiler free things to point out.
1. In the light novels we actually learn that Emilia takes promises pretty serious even minor ones, thou iirc Subaru doesn't knows this.
2. If we take the other character's pov like Rem, Ram, and Emillia, Subaru actually looks like an amazingly capable person. He help Emilia retrieve the insignia, saved her from the Bowl Hunter, somehow is friendly with Reinhard, ends up at the Roswaal Manor, befriended everyone, befriended the entire village, aids in the sisters to have a better relationship, and saved the village (or at least kept them alive till Roswall returned). All this in like 1or2 months in the book. Which makes Subaru's rant even worse/pathetic. Here's a strong capable person whom seems to have just helped you out of genuine kindness, however in a moment of his weakness he quickly tries to blame them on you and states how much you owe him.
Great points :D
Emilia and Subaru the perfectly flawed protagonists of Re:Zero. They are 2 peas in a pod, both terrible at communicating their thoughts and emotions, both feeling incredibly isolated and scared, both never having real friendships, yet they both try too hard to be kind and virtuous at the expense of their own well being.
These 2 episodes shows the worst of everyone in it. Emilia not recognising that withholding information and treating Subaru like a child will only push him to want to prove his worth, Subaru breaking Emilia's promise to try and "help" her. Rem enabled Subaru to go to the meeting despite Emilia's orders. Priscilla was simply herself (she is cool though), the knights of Lugunica are so petty that they would be willing to kill a servant over silly remarks that "damaged their egos", Reinhard kidnapped Felt, Bordeaux was a racist towards Emilia, Anastasia was fine with her knight beating up a non-combatant, etc.
Soon.
LIGHT NOVEL CONTENT,but NOT a SPOILER:
That whole scene in the courtroom was, of course, cut. every candidate had longer speech and was properly introduced. I know they had to cut some of it,but it actually leaves audiences confused. What dragon Crush is talking about ? Is that the same dragon Roswaal thinks of killing ? Why if she truly explained what she meant by that , people would not be to eager to vote for her ? Kingdom of Lugunica has a pact with a dragon. The dragon. Behind great waterfall. Dragon is even on their golden coins. Dragon protects people of Lugunica for hundreds of years, last time it was just 40 years prior to the main timeline, so it's still very much real. Royal family that was wiped out by mysterious plague which is actually debated to be a curse, not sickness, had dragon blood in their veins as a part of the pact. But Crush wants people of Lugunica to walk and stand on their own and she distrust the dragon after some events that made her wanting to break a pact very personal. It's explained in the EX-side novels more,but for now what these events are is still a spoiler,so I will be quiet about that.
When Anastasia was introduced we also came to know that Lugunica is in shambles, economy and administration and corruption...and Anastasia was supposed to be a savior in that aspect. Julius was introducing her as a genius. Not mentioning that he himself had trouble with his family since he is supporting a foreigner.
Priscilla was described as three times a widow after her very old husbands died shortly after marring her...not much else is known about her and Al expect Al was said to be gladiator not a proper knight.
BUT anime cut something very important about Al. It's not a spoiler. They also didn't cut the scene from manga adaptation (way behind anime) and currently they have problem, because they do not know how to incorporate the scene and knowledge that was lost with it and how to bring it up again. So here goes: Aldebaran in the carriage told Subaru that he is from Japan as well and that he was isekaied to this world around 18 years ago !!! And he also doesn't know about circumstances. He explained he suffered some memory los after incidents here and there.
What's more interesting is the fact that run in with thugs and Priscilla was not the first one Subaru had in the capital. BEFORE he was attacked when acompanied by Rem and Emilia. Rem made a short work of thugs. But they met Al there for a first time as well....and....Al knows Rem. Or he was thinking he knows her. He mistook her with RAM. AND....he said he is absolutely DISGUSTED that IT (meaning Ram, Rem or both of them) is still alive. Mystery.
When Reinhard was explaining how he met Felt we came to know more details about losing rulling family. I mentioned plague-curse before when talking about Crush,the most likely winner (for now),but what I didn't say is that one member of the royal family was never found - dead or alive and that there was actually an order to take little princess away from the family in order to isolate her and give her a chance of not falling sick. Felt has characteristics of the previous dinasty - fangs, blonde-goldish hair and reddish eyes. Her age also more or less (she doesn't know when she was born) fits the timeline. So Reinhard is supporting probably actual heir. Nobility actually agreed with it ! And they said that even if she is the lost princess, they do not want her as their ruler,because she is still a gutter rat.
Emilia actually had whole spectacle staged up with Roswaal. Her speech left WAY more impact than any other candidates. Roswaal pretended to actually dislike Emilia and supporting her only out of pity or out of fear. Puck appeared and threatened to freeze all the royal throne room. When Wise Men (haha) recognised Puck as the Beast of The End (this sweet kitty ?) and came to know Emilia has a contract with it they were ready to give her a throne !! Right here and then ! But Emilia only asked for fair chance to compete.
Subaru also tried to intervene since he was not in on it (because,duh,he was supposed to not be there) and almost ruin the spectacle. (I am not sure how I feel about this,the whole dialogue there was weird).
The line to Emilia said by Wise Man was not only about Subaru's declarationns, "you're not someone to be feared" was mostly about Emilia not taking the throne by force.
Emilia, of course, as one judged by her looks, wants equality, but what she really is about is race prejudices. It was never said in the show, but demihumans are treated horrbily in general and there was a couple of very bloody wars with them. Last time demihuman war was around 40 years ago and it's still fresh in everybodis minds. Emilia claimed to end with racism and mistreatment and bring safety to the kingdom.
Subaru mocked Julius desperatly trying to get under his skin, that he acts all high and might when he is not even a Sword Saint, title exclusive to Reinhard, legendary title and position passed form the one host in van Astrea family to another, person so powerful that is not allowed to leave the country since it's recognised as international or worldy threat. We came to know then that Julius is actually known as the Noblest of Knights (dunno how it is in English version, I am quite literal with it), the best of Knights for his virtues and accomplishments and as a knight ,but not in power, he is seen actually higher than Reinhard himself.
Julius was put in the house arrest as someone mentioned already, for his duel with Subaru. But it was also explained that Julius went to duel Subaru knowing the consequences to actually protect him. If Subaru wasn't publicly, officialy humilated or beat up, he probably would been...killed by other knights.
Thanks for reading if anyone has patience to :-)
Thank you for the background information! That's a lot that cut out. The part about Aldeberan is especially wild. No idea what to make of that yet
Hey man i think you should totally watch look back
I've been hearing good things
@ yep it’s beautiful both manga and anime
I've watched this series a few times, and it's really good, but this episode is SO painful for me. Watching it once usually takes a couple hours because I have to pause and take breaks because of secondhand embarrassment and internal cringing. It's not a bad episode and doesn't sour Subaru for me at all, just like Sokka's sexism didn't ruin him for me, it's a character arc, for Subaru to grow, for that growth to be big and meaningful, he has to start in a really low place. Here that is, Subaru's rock bottom...as a character. In terms of his actual lived experience, (since I know you're further on Patreon I can allude to this), we know things get MUCH worse for Subaru. But this is the real start of Subaru's greater character arc, the pit he's gotta climb out of to become a 'hero' in his way.
GOD it hurts to watch though. I don't even experience my own embarrassment that much these days, that part of my brain had a switch just flip off and break in high school, and still I find myself squirming at how...socially inept? (there's probably a stronger more accurate term for it) he is. Especially towards Emilia and the Knights.
You're blatantly white knighting this girl in front of literally HUNDREDS OF WHITE KNIGHTS.
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Yes i stole that joke
nice
the problem in this episode is too many cut content from the novel that making this episode kinda bad for me
I've heard there was a lot more info on the different candidates, which I would have loved to have seen
Oh boi these are the fun episodes I always wanna skip on rewatches. Don’t mind me skipping thru/not fully watching this video lol. Tiz painful to watch D;
Understandable 😂
People never give Emilia enough of a hard time for how poorly she handled this. She treated Subaru terribly and didn’t explain anything about the situation. He’s objectively right that she needs his help. He just handled it poorly as well but because he’s a guy and the MC he gets all the heat
Everything he did here was detrimental to her goal.
He is putting her on a pedestal, but he is also infantilizing her. Instead of letting her talk for herself, he butts in because HE has to be the one to protect her.
@@pepeedge5601 what is the point of your objectively incorrect comment? She handled the situation poorly. She only makes it out of season one alive because of Subaru. She treated Subaru like a child because she doesn’t realize the true danger that she is in and it led to her getting embarrassed. She should have explained things better(she didn’t explain things at all).
Subaru spoke up because he was infuriated. Not because he thinks he has to be the one to do it. He’ll act rashly like that for anyone. You’re adding malicious intent that is not there
@@ExpertContrarian
Are you 12?
She could defend herself here without him.
He brakes his promise by going there. When she is asked who this dude is, he interrupts her as well, claims that he is her knight, and starts a clownshow embaracing himself and her as well. He was specifically told to not come because he would do something reckless.
Yes, he saved her life back in the cabin.
But this mid season... how can Emilia draw a conclusion from events that did not happen? Does saving her allows him to insult her agency?
Handled poorly? What are you talking about? She should have told him that they will probably insult her at the this political meeting that is specifically there to compare candidates? He was not supposed to be there.
Also wrong. Subaru is selfish here. When he hears Al, Julius, Felix talk about how they are knight dedicated to a specific candidate he think to himself that "my feelings for Emilia won't come in second to anyone". He is competing in his mind.
Expert contrarian? Your just a dude with dogshit takes.
this show might no be for you since you don't understand the characters
@@glark7368 You’re projecting. You don’t understand the characters