A Breakthrough in Graph Theory - Numberphile

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @ТимофейЧерников-щ2х
    @ТимофейЧерников-щ2х 5 лет назад +2827

    Wow! Yaroslav Shitov is my teacher in university. Wasn't expecting to see him there

  • @gcewing
    @gcewing 5 лет назад +867

    I think I've found a universal solution to all such party problems. You invite one graph theory specialist to the party. Since all the guests are part pf a graph colouring problem, they all have something in common with him.

    • @danielsmerdel8214
      @danielsmerdel8214 5 лет назад +9

      Top 3 comment I've read in this section

    • @gregergreg
      @gregergreg 5 лет назад +118

      Ah but then there's the philosophical question, if you invite a graph theory specialist to the party, will anyone else come?

    • @purplecow3000
      @purplecow3000 5 лет назад +50

      @@gregergreg just dont tell the other guests that you are inviting a graph theory specialist

    • @shobhitsinha1754
      @shobhitsinha1754 5 лет назад +11

      Successful Event Managing 101

    • @Desimere
      @Desimere 5 лет назад +7

      But then it will be a lecture (one to many). You want every pair of guests to have something in common so whoever one talks to, they could get along.

  • @guinea_horn
    @guinea_horn 5 лет назад +1344

    So the smallest counter-example is between 5 and 4^10000 vertices

    • @paradoxica424
      @paradoxica424 5 лет назад +145

      so now we just need a sufficiently large computer to find the smallest counterexample

    • @TemporalOnline
      @TemporalOnline 5 лет назад +264

      @@paradoxica424 And everybody will moan forever because we brute forced it instead of insighting it.

    • @Einyen
      @Einyen 5 лет назад +309

      Very accurate estimate compared to "between 13 and Graham's Number"

    • @Martykun36
      @Martykun36 5 лет назад +45

      @@TemporalOnline 4^10000 is quite large, to pure-brute force it you would need much more atoms than the universe has.

    • @movax20h
      @movax20h 5 лет назад +53

      @@TemporalOnline It is not possibele to brute force. It is too big of a range. Not only number of vertices is enormous, but number of possible graphs for each specific number of vertices is huge and grows further as the number of vertices grow. It might not be feasible to check from 5 to 1000 vertices even in this century.

  • @saulysw
    @saulysw 5 лет назад +1538

    She is fantastic at explaining things

    • @manuroitman
      @manuroitman 5 лет назад +6

      +100

    • @YouTubist666
      @YouTubist666 5 лет назад +25

      It was a long explanation. But I was able to follow the explanation. Nice work. 👍

    • @flowerpt
      @flowerpt 5 лет назад +10

      yep, great teacher.

    • @DonnyPetit
      @DonnyPetit 5 лет назад +6

      +4^10000

    • @abcd-sf5ur
      @abcd-sf5ur 4 года назад +1

      Yeah pal

  • @mueezadam8438
    @mueezadam8438 4 года назад +15

    I love these 20 minute videos because it allows the guest to really “sell” the topic. I never knew graphs could be used this way, absolutely fascinating demonstration by Dr. Klarreich!

  • @Demki
    @Demki 5 лет назад +87

    14:28 Graphs are always G or H because G stands for Graph and H stands for Hparg >:-)

  • @Bengt.Lueers
    @Bengt.Lueers 5 лет назад +139

    Gotta love how this comes out right before Christmas, when people gather with their families and commonly wonder why it is so hard to get along with each other.

    • @itsmidtrib1569
      @itsmidtrib1569 5 лет назад +1

      Bengt Lüers ohmy gosh 😂

    • @Danscottmusic
      @Danscottmusic 5 лет назад +18

      My family would be a complete graph here

    • @shashishekhar----
      @shashishekhar---- 5 лет назад

      @@Danscottmusic lol

    • @Gyzome
      @Gyzome 5 лет назад +5

      Somehow the answer of "they're the wrong colour" is depressingly true in some families.

  • @kanewilliams1653
    @kanewilliams1653 5 лет назад +589

    She is very clear, more of her please!

    • @StefanReich
      @StefanReich 4 года назад

      Was a bit for idiots this time though... the simplest things explained reaally slowly

    • @blablabla1494
      @blablabla1494 4 года назад +8

      @@StefanReich no u

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar 3 года назад +5

      @@StefanReich perfect for a big idiot like me

  • @robindawes3544
    @robindawes3544 5 лет назад +16

    I remember Steve Hedetniemi from many conferences in the 1980's - he always had the most interesting problems to work on. It's wonderful that he is still teaching.

  • @JamesFluker
    @JamesFluker 5 лет назад +21

    I love that the guy who came up with the conjecture was simply delighted to have an answer to the problem. It shows his love of math and learning isn't about ego, but about finding answers.

    • @SiMeGamer
      @SiMeGamer 5 лет назад +2

      It is about ego. HE wants to learn something. HE wants to do math and loves it. For himself. That's as egoistic as it can get and there is nothing wrong with that. Perhaps you meant second-handed appraisal (primarily being valued by others) rather than ego :]

    • @SiMeGamer
      @SiMeGamer 5 лет назад

      @Steven Moore the love itself no, but the pursuit of it, is.

  • @GusTheWolfgang
    @GusTheWolfgang 5 лет назад +94

    I loved how clear and conscise she was expressing herself!

  • @zerid0
    @zerid0 5 лет назад +179

    This problem is so much simpler when your friend graph is an empty graph.
    I can color it with 0 colors and binge watch Netflix every weekend.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 5 лет назад +153

    Hedetniemi is 80 years old and still teaching.

  • @Wanon0
    @Wanon0 5 лет назад +13

    Love the subtle jab at Matt Parker: 'Or you could go for my favourite audiobook so far, that's - **scrolls away from Humble Pi audiobook** - Endurance by Alfred Lansing...'

  • @sammortlokk
    @sammortlokk 5 лет назад +74

    I really liked how Erica explained this, I felt like I really understood it despite not doing graph theory before!

  • @amradio1968
    @amradio1968 5 лет назад +139

    I think it was Pandora radio? when it was still just a visual website of nodes(album covers) and edges (labeled with adjectives and genres) when I first thought graphs were actually useful. In this case songs were nodes with typological edge types. Following the edges revealed the decision making for the next song. That one simple case changed my understanding of what could be done with graphs in computing for connecting data by proxy to reveal hidden graph structures quickly. The fewest number of colors in this case would also ensure artists and songs, even by a cover band, would not be repeated and get stuck accidentally in a self referential loop in the graph. I later designed an art museum tour creation app based on graphs where people could name the edge type they wanted to traverse, such as color, material, genre, etc. Worked great. 👍 I went to art school, but math truly makes the world usable.

    • @salerio61
      @salerio61 5 лет назад +3

      That was really interesting, the application of maths into other totally unrelated fields.

    • @salerio61
      @salerio61 5 лет назад

      @X E I agree with you. However if you think of a network as being an n-dimensional object, then nodes would be the corners or vertices, and edges the the lines connecting the vertices. Like a (standard) die has 6 faces, 8 vertices, and 12 edges connecting the vertices.

  • @pepe6666
    @pepe6666 5 лет назад +51

    man how stoked would you be getting an answer to your conjecture after 50 years

  • @MK-13337
    @MK-13337 5 лет назад +139

    Usually counterexamples and the process of taking numbers "as big (or small) as you need" is really used in analysis.
    I remember discussing a possible proof and we were talking about approximating some real valued quantities with rational numbers. The thought process went something like "...we can approximate this number with error epsilon, lets just take epsilon divided by a million to be safe..."

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 5 лет назад +5

      Why not epsilon squared?

    • @MK-13337
      @MK-13337 5 лет назад +12

      @@NoNameAtAll2 squares are hard man :D
      I remember rounding 4pi/17 to 10pi when proving a function was integrable. If you just have to show an inequality to be true usually you want easy numbers to work with ;)

    • @FManga18
      @FManga18 5 лет назад +2

      I also remember the other day I was pretty sure that given a number n and some calculations stuff failed for n+1 but who casres? Slap there 10n and you are done

    • @magicmulder
      @magicmulder 5 лет назад +4

      Graham: „I could maybe prove that C < 10 billion but let‘s be careful and prove C < Graham‘s number instead.“

  • @siddhantkumar6340
    @siddhantkumar6340 5 лет назад +10

    I love these numberphile videos. They really inspire me and make me want to explore even deeper in maths

  • @JimsMaher
    @JimsMaher 5 лет назад +383

    Brilliant introduction to graph theory

    • @liamlouw4643
      @liamlouw4643 5 лет назад +8

      Intro?!

    • @ankitaaarya
      @ankitaaarya 5 лет назад +14

      @@liamlouw4643 exactly, that was his point. He meant that there should be an intro

    • @anandsuralkar2947
      @anandsuralkar2947 5 лет назад

      Yes

    • @MrNacknime
      @MrNacknime 5 лет назад +34

      @@ankitaaarya The first 10 minutes of this video are intro...

    • @JimsMaher
      @JimsMaher 5 лет назад +8

      @@MrNacknime exactly

  • @pyglik2296
    @pyglik2296 5 лет назад +117

    I like way mathematicians think. They ask a question and when they eventually get answer they ask another question.
    Like:
    I think it may be true.
    Is it true?
    Sometimes it is true...
    But not always.
    When EXACTLY is it true?
    What's the smallest counter example?

    • @HaloInverse
      @HaloInverse 5 лет назад +31

      All science is like that - or at least, it _should_ be and _ought to_ be like that. Pure mathematics is more resistant to temptations to skew, falsify, or hide results to get more funding, since the "results" are generally harder to _directly_ profit from. If you're in it, you're in it for the truth, not for the money.

    • @ペア-c5b
      @ペア-c5b 5 лет назад +1

      gonna keep it as short and simple problems when u need to deal with these never ending things for a big part of your life i guess😉

    • @rumfordc
      @rumfordc 5 лет назад +2

      @@HaloInverse a proper scientific hypothesis should always be falsifiable, so if you hear a scientist asking "is it true?" that should be a big red flag that they don't understand the purpose of their own job. aside from that, you're right that they should ask a lot of questions.

    • @alephnull4044
      @alephnull4044 5 лет назад

      Yes that is the way of the mathematician. Similarly, they like to generalise things ad infinitum.

    • @mirogula
      @mirogula 5 лет назад +2

      That's standard procedure. When you try to get to the bottom of the things, you just ask this questions naturally.

  • @Roarshark12
    @Roarshark12 5 лет назад +24

    It brought such a smile to my face at the end when Erica mentioned having gotten Hedetniemi's his reaction to finally getting an answer to his conjecture. Any chance we can get you guys back on camera, with him, talking about this together?? :)

  • @adityakhanna113
    @adityakhanna113 5 лет назад +10

    Oooh! I never realized until I saw the quanta magazine picture! I have read so many articles by Erica, she's great!

  • @cwaddle
    @cwaddle 5 лет назад +86

    Whoelse but numberphile who will discuss really complicated maths mysteries in laymans terms. Thank you!

    • @subschallenge-nh4xp
      @subschallenge-nh4xp 5 лет назад +2

      3 brown 1 blue

    • @mvmlego1212
      @mvmlego1212 5 лет назад +1

      @@subschallenge-nh4xp -- It's a great channel, but it's not as accessible as most of Numberphile's content.

  • @RolandHutchinson
    @RolandHutchinson 5 лет назад +884

    "Let's start by coloring the economist red."
    Must be a Marxist.

    • @krakow10
      @krakow10 5 лет назад +38

      Those damn commies

    • @theultimatereductionist7592
      @theultimatereductionist7592 5 лет назад +12

      Or a Republicunt.

    • @wurttmapper2200
      @wurttmapper2200 5 лет назад +4

      That makes as much sense as an anti vax doctor.

    • @RolandHutchinson
      @RolandHutchinson 5 лет назад +2

      I perhaps should have said "Marxian" rather than "Marxist" in reference to the economist.

    • @cravinghibiscus7901
      @cravinghibiscus7901 5 лет назад +17

      @@RolandHutchinson Marxist works too, contrary to much public understanding it's still taught in most universities, it's the foundation of sociology.

  • @FakeAccount
    @FakeAccount 5 лет назад +118

    this woman is such a good explainer

    • @drmontorsi7498
      @drmontorsi7498 5 лет назад +8

      Fake Account she has such a smoothing voice too

    • @okarakoo
      @okarakoo 5 лет назад +6

      true, she's gifted

    • @imoffendedthatyoureoffende7461
      @imoffendedthatyoureoffende7461 4 года назад +6

      @@fugreek One trait of very smart people is the ability to explain convoluted concepts in a clear and concise manner

  • @mikapeltokorpi7671
    @mikapeltokorpi7671 5 лет назад +28

    My mother was not into sudouks, because it was "about numbers". I said to her, that do not think those as numbers, but as symbols. She is still doing sudokus - about a ten years later.

  • @illogicmath
    @illogicmath 5 лет назад

    This professor is so clear and explains so well.
    What a blessing it would have been to have her as teacher in my university math lectures.

  • @puskajussi37
    @puskajussi37 5 лет назад +94

    Thats exactly why Im into mathematics. If I want to become a rich person with friends and a mansion, I just declare myself as one.

    • @vidblogger12
      @vidblogger12 5 лет назад +18

      Let me be a rich person.
      Since I am rich, I no longer have to write proofs for a living.
      END PROOF.

    • @chesshooligan1282
      @chesshooligan1282 5 лет назад +1

      You have two options. Option number one is mathematician. Option number two is lefty.

  • @DomenBremecXCVI
    @DomenBremecXCVI 5 лет назад +137

    To be fair, using colours in a sudoku puzzle might be quite useful for children, especially like 4 by 4s and 6 by 6.

    • @anandsuralkar2947
      @anandsuralkar2947 5 лет назад +2

      Yes

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 5 лет назад +4

      How would a 6x6 sudoku work? Pretty sure sudoku sizes have to be square numbers.

    • @shoo_be_doo
      @shoo_be_doo 5 лет назад +28

      @@unvergebeneid I've seen 6x6 sudokus divided up into six 2x3 rectangles.

    • @DomenBremecXCVI
      @DomenBremecXCVI 5 лет назад +4

      @@unvergebeneid I know it's a thing, there used to be one in my local daily paper... It's split into 6 2 by 3 rectangles.

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 5 лет назад +2

      @@DomenBremecXCVI oooh, okay, if you allow rectangles you can use any number that's not a prime. Clever.

  • @IceDave33
    @IceDave33 5 лет назад +14

    A really great intuitive explanation of tensor graphs! Thanks Erica!

  • @hectorh.micheos.1717
    @hectorh.micheos.1717 5 лет назад +2

    16 minutes of setup but i really felt that I understood the issue. So nice. She is a really good teacher, even if she may not be. Really good.

  • @RafaelSolaPACalsaverini
    @RafaelSolaPACalsaverini 5 лет назад +140

    The auto subtitles are saying "head-at-knee Amy's conjecture" and it's hilarious.

    • @danieljensen2626
      @danieljensen2626 5 лет назад +2

      My brain was hearing it that way even without subtitles.

    • @iabervon
      @iabervon 5 лет назад +4

      Amy finds this one just a little harder than Rodin's Thinker found whatever he was thinking about.

    • @rofl22rofl22
      @rofl22rofl22 5 лет назад +3

      And so a few hundred people across the globe just tried hitting their head with their knee, chuckling like morons. Well, at least I did.

    • @sumilidero
      @sumilidero 5 лет назад +1

      Google needs to upgrade their calculator and autosubtitle alghoritms I guess :D

  • @brianlane723
    @brianlane723 5 лет назад +45

    The recommended Numberphile videos about graph theory are a graph theory problem unto themselves.

  • @Lunareon
    @Lunareon 5 лет назад +3

    What a great introduction to graph theory, and so easy to understand. I can instantly see various situations where it could be applied: seating orders, forming teams, arranging work shifts, traffic control, urban planning... Also, anything that has circles connected by lines looks like a finite-state machine to me. xD

  • @inyobill
    @inyobill 5 лет назад

    That's genius, taking a complex subject and presenting it in a manner accessible to non-experts.

  • @mc101
    @mc101 5 лет назад +15

    Please, talk about new partial proof by Terence Tao and Collatz Conjecture.

  • @Kasparovwannabe
    @Kasparovwannabe 5 лет назад +3

    This is a really great video. Interesting concept, explained in depth, but in an understandable and engaging way. Erica was fantastic.

  • @AGeniusDexter
    @AGeniusDexter 5 лет назад +5

    Great explanation. Didn't even have to open a book to see the conjecture.
    Love the simple language devoid of jargon.
    Brilliant explanation and analogies 😇

  • @magicmulder
    @magicmulder 5 лет назад +5

    I remember the „Every graph is 4-colorable“ book, one of the largest in the library at the Mathematical Institute where I studied.

  • @rustedcrab
    @rustedcrab 5 лет назад +25

    I would be really impressed if I saw someone solving a sudoku with that color technique

    • @aijoo00
      @aijoo00 5 лет назад +14

      Isn't it the same as solving a sudoku the traditional way with numbers? Numbers and colors represent the same thing, they're just a different type of visualization.

    • @sushanlamgade
      @sushanlamgade 5 лет назад +1

      kylteri Yeah actually I’d never thought about solving sudokus with coloring problem.

    • @blindleader42
      @blindleader42 5 лет назад

      @@aijoo00 Yeah, pretty much the same. I've constructed (converted actually) sudoku using, letters, dingbats (remember them?) and other arbitrary symbols. It never occurred to me to use colors. The biggest problem with not using numerals is, if it's a really difficult example, It's much harder to pencil in candidates.

    • @omikronweapon
      @omikronweapon 5 лет назад

      @@blindleader42 maybe he's just saying he's ALWAYS impressed when seeing someone solve one? XD

    • @l00d3r
      @l00d3r 4 года назад

      @@aijoo00 Objectively, yes. But the human mind is subjective, and some people will find it easier one way or another. In my case, I know I would have a harder time solving a color sudoku, as I can visualize numbers better than colors.

  • @jedrekantkiewicz
    @jedrekantkiewicz 5 лет назад +9

    That explanation though, great teacher! Wish my uni professors were that great at explaining graph theory...

  • @kleko
    @kleko 5 лет назад +3

    Gotta comment on the most important part here:
    Stamp collecting is a form of meditation and collectors are a blast at parties.
    I like this video.

  • @Gregoryzaniz
    @Gregoryzaniz 5 лет назад

    i am so charmed by all the examples of jobs the professor gives are things related to the university!!

  • @Adam-cn5ib
    @Adam-cn5ib 5 лет назад +4

    Amazing, practical explanations & easy to follow. More of her please!

  • @fotonical
    @fotonical 2 года назад +2

    This actually made sense, wish had teacher like this explain everything.

  • @Robbedem
    @Robbedem 5 лет назад +54

    In dutch, there are different words for graph and graph. ;)
    grafiek is the one with axi, while graaf is the one that represents a network.

    • @leo17921
      @leo17921 5 лет назад +1

      graph

    • @kvdrr
      @kvdrr 5 лет назад +5

      same here in polish

    • @natmath2576
      @natmath2576 5 лет назад +8

      Same in french. English just seems to be running out of words

    • @huverdoose
      @huverdoose 5 лет назад +3

      @@natmath2576 Oh, it's just the worst.

    • @pierreabbat6157
      @pierreabbat6157 5 лет назад

      And what's the one that is a count?

  • @loukas10760
    @loukas10760 4 года назад +1

    0:40 Just to point out that the confussion for the word graph comes from the shortening of 2 different greek words... Γραφική αναπαρασταση meaning graphical representation is the one used for x, y axis and Γράφος is the one used for the network representation. Englishs words and phrases, as a habbit, have always been shortened for the ease of use but details are lost in the process

  • @lemonteurdesanuseur9686
    @lemonteurdesanuseur9686 5 лет назад +6

    I absolutely didn’t know about graphes being a mathematical object this way, and this is super interesting

  • @ApertureCombine
    @ApertureCombine 5 лет назад +4

    One of my favorite numberphile videos ever!

  • @RalphDratman
    @RalphDratman 5 лет назад +8

    Erica Klarreich seems to be a wonderful teacher!

  • @alexkoshuta6219
    @alexkoshuta6219 5 лет назад +3

    I really appreciate you making this video with an astonishing explanation. Thank you very much!

  • @jacobtech7
    @jacobtech7 5 лет назад +8

    In my Graph Theory class, we had to prove this statement for the special case chi(G)=3 on the final... i can thankfully say that i got it, but unfortunately almost no one (understandably) did

  • @ryanlind5239
    @ryanlind5239 5 лет назад

    Man this was an awesome explanation. I put off watching this all day cause I was like "okay, Graph Theory, I'm gonna need to focus for this one." I think that's the first time there's been a numberphile video using the word "tensor" that I actually followed. Thank you!

  • @m.rohwer6989
    @m.rohwer6989 5 лет назад +19

    Youre channel is one reason I probably attempt to become a math teacher next year😂

    • @Not.Your.Business
      @Not.Your.Business 4 года назад +6

      I wish you all the best, but I'm glad your goal isn't to become an English teacher.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones Год назад +1

      Did you?

    • @m.rohwer6989
      @m.rohwer6989 Год назад

      @@oz_jones thanks for reminding me of this comment, I didnt knew it existet. And yes, I‘m currently writing my bachelor thesis 😂

  • @thebluefoxproductions8398
    @thebluefoxproductions8398 5 лет назад +142

    Numberphile's logo is π and currently they have 3.14 Million subscribers..........
    Coincidence? I think not!

    • @vj_henke
      @vj_henke 5 лет назад +1

      Is this our "pi million" sub special ?!

    • @mitchgilbert6894
      @mitchgilbert6894 5 лет назад

      The Blue Fox Productions I screenshotted it

    • @Whitsoxrule1
      @Whitsoxrule1 4 года назад

      7 months later I saw your comment and checked current subscriber count... 3.41 million. Coincidence? Yeah probably

  • @gunhasirac
    @gunhasirac 5 лет назад +39

    She is a professor I would like because she writes so beautiful while most professors’ writing are hard to read as hell.

    • @kwcy92
      @kwcy92 4 года назад

      And explains things well.

  • @SoleaGalilei
    @SoleaGalilei 5 лет назад +8

    Erica is a great presenter! Excellent video.

  • @MrPictor
    @MrPictor 5 лет назад +73

    There's a flaw in the reasoning: Why watch Netflix when you can watch Numberphile?

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 3 года назад

      I'd absolutely watch a more in depth maths show made by the Numberphile crew to be a Netflix show. Go really in depth with the maths instead of just the surface level stuff, but still produced by the Numberphile guys who are used to explaining things in a more lay way.

  • @scotthendricks5665
    @scotthendricks5665 5 лет назад +276

    Subtle Australian states graph

    • @joshuaychung
      @joshuaychung 5 лет назад +24

      It was probably a bit easier to draw than the map of the USA with 50 states (although 2 of them don't touch the other so you'd only have to worry about the "contiguous 48 states").

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 5 лет назад +25

      And subtly pointing out that Brady's home state of South Australia is the superior state because it has the most borders.

    • @HasekuraIsuna
      @HasekuraIsuna 5 лет назад +5

      Why so "sa", mate?
      (`・ω・´)

    • @atkgrl
      @atkgrl 5 лет назад

      I too have considered mating offspring with either Australians or Britain’s

    • @neilgerace355
      @neilgerace355 5 лет назад +6

      It's incorrect, as Victoria and Tasmania do have a land border: it runs across Boundary Islet. This fact was discovered only after the border was fixed.

  • @ProfOmarMath
    @ProfOmarMath 5 лет назад +9

    I like the follow up paper disproving it asymptomatically.

  • @burnere633
    @burnere633 5 лет назад +1

    I found the first few minutes of the video to be wonderful exposition. I scrolled down to see who this new(?) guest on Numberphile was. I wasn't surprised. I have been fan of Erica Klarreich's writing on Quanta for some years now.

  • @wojtekburzynski654
    @wojtekburzynski654 5 лет назад +118

    In Polish there is no ambiguity wirh graph and graph. Graph in graph theory is called graf, graph of function is called wykres.

    • @JoaoVictor-gy3bk
      @JoaoVictor-gy3bk 5 лет назад +31

      In portuguese the graph for graph theory is "grafo" and the other is "gráfico"

    • @marcoswappner8331
      @marcoswappner8331 5 лет назад +11

      @@JoaoVictor-gy3bk Same as in Spanish.

    • @amoledzeppelin
      @amoledzeppelin 5 лет назад +19

      @@marcoswappner8331 same in Ukrainian (graph in graph theory is "граф" and graph of function is "графік"), but "граф" also means "count" (a person, as in count Dracula or count Dooku)

    • @frimi8593
      @frimi8593 5 лет назад +18

      Stop flexing your superior languages on us unilingual people! ;-;

    • @ganaraminukshuk0
      @ganaraminukshuk0 5 лет назад +2

      Graph (in English): the X-Y Cartesian coordinate thing for a function, or a collection of nodes/vertices and edges that connect said nodes.
      Graphic (in English): depending on context, a digital image or an adjective used to describe art or gory detail.
      Apparently there's an additional context for these words and that's linguistics, but this isn't Linguaphile (sadly)...

  • @kenc2257
    @kenc2257 5 лет назад

    How intriguing! Never have heard about this type of "graph" before, but it is so interesting, and so well presented/explained by Ms Klarreich.

  • @Deadly_Laser
    @Deadly_Laser 5 лет назад +7

    Wow, you connected the dots very well on this one!

  • @BainesMkII
    @BainesMkII 5 лет назад +1

    @18:00 You don't even need to look at the combination of the two graphs to find compatible people who were separated. The Job graph by itself had already forced the compatible Teacher and Professor to be different colors, which at least raises the concern when combining two more complex graphs (requiring many more colors) filled with such indirect separations. (I say many more colors because you need room to simplify.)

  • @AGuitarFreekOfficial
    @AGuitarFreekOfficial 5 лет назад +4

    Congrats on 3.14 million subscribers!

  • @programaths
    @programaths 5 лет назад +8

    22:27 We can safely assume that one's friend is made of at lest one particle of the observable universe. Therefore, nobody has as much friends.
    Now, if we speak about imaginary friends, we have to understand how much information the mind can hold. I don't thinks it's that many, but that would be a conjecture.

    • @raykent3211
      @raykent3211 5 лет назад +4

      If you're seeking evidence to support your hypothesis, I can confirm that each of my two friends has more than one elementary particle. Mathematics gets loony.

    • @HL-iw1du
      @HL-iw1du 5 лет назад

      Christian Baune There is no such thing as the mind.

    • @Cloiss_
      @Cloiss_ 5 лет назад

      I had 2^26 imaginary friends when I was younger... (I’m not even joking)

  • @bonbonpony
    @bonbonpony 5 лет назад +12

    21:35 So now the next question is: what is the SMALLEST graph that breaks that conjecture? :J See you in the next couple of decades ;)

  • @galgrunfeld9954
    @galgrunfeld9954 5 лет назад

    Brady, thanks to you I had the joy of listening Edward Frenkel's audiobook version of his book Love and Math: The Heart of Hidden Reality, and I've wanted for a while for mathematics to be a bigger part of my life, so thank you for promoting (beyond creating, of course) great popular mathematics content.

  • @josefranco480
    @josefranco480 5 лет назад +6

    I wonder if this is similar to how our brain's neurons makes connections, and then efficiency would be how well it can avoid necessary separations

  • @Noelciaaa
    @Noelciaaa 4 года назад +1

    i thought i was procrastinating by watching math vids when i'm supposed to be making my project as senior thesis in graphic design but i actually learned something i can apply wow

  • @IslandCave
    @IslandCave 5 лет назад +41

    Maybe its G & H because G is for graph and H is the next letter!

    • @Wecoc1
      @Wecoc1 5 лет назад +20

      Yep, that's exactly it. Unlike physicists, mathematicians are lazy bastards in terms of coming with nomenclatures.

    • @RibusPQR
      @RibusPQR 5 лет назад +24

      It's because G is for Gobs, and H is for Hobbies.

    • @FManga18
      @FManga18 5 лет назад +6

      Like the function f

    • @zmaj12321
      @zmaj12321 5 лет назад +1

      @@RibusPQR Is this like how people argue how to pronounce gif?

    • @RibusPQR
      @RibusPQR 5 лет назад +6

      @@zmaj12321 HEY, it's prounounced gif

  • @prydin
    @prydin 5 лет назад +1

    What a great educator you are, Erica! Great video!

  • @ChrisLuigiTails
    @ChrisLuigiTails 5 лет назад +72

    Welp I have my final exam about graphs and data structures and algorithms in one hour

    • @ZedaZ80
      @ZedaZ80 5 лет назад +13

      Good luck!

    • @Septimus_ii
      @Septimus_ii 5 лет назад +7

      Hope it went well

    • @carolebeni30
      @carolebeni30 5 лет назад +7

      How’d it go mate?

    • @ChrisLuigiTails
      @ChrisLuigiTails 5 лет назад +20

      Thanks guys! Yup it went well, even though it was the hardest exam to date in this course.

    • @JerseySlayer
      @JerseySlayer 3 года назад

      Floyd-Warshall by hand with a 6x6 matrix

  • @KauanRMKlein
    @KauanRMKlein 5 лет назад +19

    This video is like a Christmas gift, an opportunity to ask: *where can I find easy literature (or online courses that don't suck) about graph theory?*
    I always try to stay ahead by learning a subject _before_ I get classes into it, and I feel like graph theory will be a huge problem next semester in Discrete Mathematics II, because my intellect is very limited when it comes to understanding spatial problems especially when they are described in those awfully arcane mathematical notations.
    Thank you, any and all help is appreciated!

    • @BryanLeeShiYang
      @BryanLeeShiYang 5 лет назад

      Me too, it's such a blessing. I've always wanted to prepare for olympiads but graph theory always keeps me confused. Now that this is out, it's going to help me :))

    • @KauanRMKlein
      @KauanRMKlein 5 лет назад

      @@BryanLeeShiYang Yeah. I don't want to buy a book that won't teach me anything (I don't have that kind of money). I need a book on Discrete Mathematics made for people with "spatial thinking disability" 😅

    • @leodarkk
      @leodarkk 5 лет назад

      Check in order in my opinion :
      Main results on distances, Dijkstra mainly.
      Main results on trees, BFS algorithm and such.
      Main results on planar graphs (Euler formula).
      Main results on graph coloring.
      Mains results on flows (Edmonds-Karp).
      Main results on graph minors (That is more intricated).

  • @invaderpopz
    @invaderpopz 5 лет назад +4

    What a great presenter! She made the math really clear and well-motivated and interesting and fun! :)

  • @bigfootpegrande
    @bigfootpegrande 4 года назад

    14:29 a de Bruijn graph is denoted B. Please do a video on that as applied to de novo (blind, from scratcj) genome assembly. Thanks for the insightful lesson...

  • @Belissimo-T
    @Belissimo-T 5 лет назад +123

    According to Python, 4^10000 = 39802768403379665923543072061912024537047727804924259387134268656523863597493005704267600974997559551083646113750491270283140037693531914362175347041582702598121528242689349822482661597770759553946696101958869972677227973194131519818278726403485282120016456612793039071039818297993532771801687378482134951640611498291669186736187537002454587214079382727748256282419243923780158869781416852033865009090969753596652503275704943028645948297735737359802045058992731836566307671913693413259312676190669600377038530528457033111969100152658434772201238638188177942554921085169645825394357855769907215463965563079388394196137897184684111380418873025890383910366962608697446815065571048084159246565521180525786300781167688883955501753673175811344865675251415860144405164515466551438843161904239610671675576233872818346136985464892397290442755615882182377872919311145344584421697909543504577814457137895465212239606161514764254025074585722889399987549162501494601383934089132606093390103624999923863782757777466664480973403386161942036393646517873091923367311424456391505843899662583411213296799849557624932046287174777701216554388715625585835878485233506057488187655202568570482376807871081895186074137942924211085564497397742041381037351458450400689639267585499786687081856420723908387432495387127637571610150657515320574736396374074986751468261975677553450700687148588781240292773822757663528417424698854078597524002048126685307612717222802433056155012018200877759823054203370246340831667112088616926093400680579986459863631117978777673860899234606306309965964827966387817407478717923716975295704640458452530138415335834405590821969585485218521073976146055159665821101315991540956614542680973755041757822846583583089029449753546311208153767266405689162434577931152456001998431545614212628289848672834500476787349975268347140958736745059330239230790800459064475401253711332049360168213370931822264748908053164401532139115738717823215412682800776031371687224220961420096752218047571619997368946771401040467396145414646604585523221719668766514314761219915192127743230970046032143038153338524587743133053347947615233936450343632291966563104232874046361256584256041194702017400650789339627610383443623314091502539101438611920117646265955638834305860032671061890368374651657702121427693328917902105995692594971795604085797916591417097005621286993359358926862615199667659437080088509304823068715280321325473559474179907603945305727231988432234188324103638261759840188943913030187697549868173617421571128705344701371159600457480356270138824682251039152241906132066374092132175434416674489958816064929182353598338602590494204072458101761596842957701580809036096854405920459420006930461241736639877683153226559622471575030179220772560793253454369375877226201038736043556763523271834342067969305736000407367949300894581396101243957439737317863605462820764752067519442024427103634372931885843087146197886696477236205729057732608066446312965759024985974854410133384209271365309665606626682744607914559019664464341740372322008569620271932153323302716959973492897158885034841500007003402702529818310414834398029766314897158660790377171788068317543644558581061054688207357155616232465935131032656080444897422934974342563716483424279999142714505089946951195483477484717236069356843768914739945567209077368678251105429118517238191700888995764531133995099304477978360714059376650801793599258135785830652530378323175242524200834784486798833302541724994409211857811368740315816270707515400605341637407576516266853312707860531656282633719360624253529068322442366046222240868030049871414960726555044122073807594163398843505159448725680287418226481442592311119318828063201312780289788960533878308953274087720230412249819362545476834377553549887282109998162049707081048913745710689257324849873424371718480082295633446941566681885807321865397795430902318285172324652204279240146138200160192050128443932521408421073640063088492994227298294361370812301135526091554583104316024352359937200622615028966498211394489888661071082495509672462689541648452181902613217764059869165803598628537635503371909456808312221934572206361360977915833808437533143127652754848256621007134774454129287187613476424970485984095027622762732889742420893298811510890718764769849181437563961431317809252867800737004587174821842178639619728421320902262376273463083600686419241460523724898328900690526898847519759978152415891358370132519909035227425260834297130390766936304565623218397875585306400401089503083492198860135520118115887725480779805863512770844559206451956311509474927660669755952933280722141402102490524178897491775503470051043203989019739369172291112688917439431212725479314162497583042909799770553178190824208392206876902735512921261724413064028999477741302662401315732994833358637795510319584481716382248423270076385929025340037651570198675359689007581854448547578578003184357906575409509997094050464021285080999705112897656388088639241076632144998752969046326218289427230274915453544723333102884121521553360239828110705069601750782760276154781632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    calculated instantly. It's 6021 digits long.

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 5 лет назад +40

      So "a one with 6000 zeroes" was only off by a factor of about 400,000,000,000,000,000,000.

    • @whong09
      @whong09 5 лет назад +34

      But express that error as a percentage of 4^10000 and it's less than a percent

    • @brianlane723
      @brianlane723 5 лет назад +11

      You mean 4**10000?

    • @pH7oslo
      @pH7oslo 5 лет назад +4

      You don't need python or similar to write out that number, though - just write it in hexadecimal for instance..

    • @SLAMgamer11
      @SLAMgamer11 5 лет назад

      @@brianlane723 ha ha

  • @STKeTcH
    @STKeTcH 5 лет назад

    he showed ... in just the right way ... then you have a counterexample. Great explanation!!!!

  • @redheadbrothers
    @redheadbrothers 5 лет назад +3

    I have an important question you never answered in the video.
    In the exponential graph H, which nodes are connected to each other? How do you consider two colorings to be 'incompatible' like a teacher would be with an economist?

    • @redheadbrothers
      @redheadbrothers 5 лет назад +1

      @@osoiii I ended up looking through the paper, and another way of saying it is that two colorings A and B are adjacent (connected by a line) if, for any two nodes x and y in the original graph G, the color of x in A and the color of y in B are different.
      ( A(x) != B(y) if (x,y) is in G ).

    • @redheadbrothers
      @redheadbrothers 5 лет назад

      They constructed it like this specifically so that the product graph would always have adjacent nodes with different colors - the node (A,x) (A is a coloring, x is a node from G) in the product graph would be colored however x was colored in A. This would guarantee that if two nodes in the product graph are connected, they'll have different colors if we use this rule.

  • @ruittenb
    @ruittenb 2 года назад +2

    Brilliantly explained. I thoroughly enjoyed this video 🙂

  • @ZandarKoad
    @ZandarKoad 5 лет назад +81

    Wanted to stab myself in the eye during college advanced math. Now watching math for entertainment. The hell?

    • @zoomskiller
      @zoomskiller 5 лет назад +14

      Discrete math (which includes things like graph theory) is very different from something like calculus. Discrete is like logic puzzles, and challenging but fascinating. Integral calculus/ differential equations is more procedural like algebra, and easier but boring.

    • @letsmakeit110
      @letsmakeit110 5 лет назад +19

      Doing things autonomously instead of being forced makes them more fulfilling. I remember reading books in school and hating them, and then rereading those same books after graduation in my free time. Industrial Society and its Future explains the phenomenon well.

    • @ZandarKoad
      @ZandarKoad 5 лет назад +6

      @@letsmakeit110 Exactly. Like forced charity. Utter oxymoron.

    • @michaelcheverie7579
      @michaelcheverie7579 4 года назад

      @@zoomskiller Unless you live for physics.

    • @cedricgabionza
      @cedricgabionza 4 года назад +4

      Doing math under time pressure and deadlines added unnecessary burden to an otherwise fascinating subject, also the grading system encourages results over learning so there you go.

  • @woowooNeedsFaith
    @woowooNeedsFaith 5 лет назад

    Ok. So this is kind of breakthrough I've been long waiting for? Starting from tomorrow, I'm gonna use it in my daily work for now on.

  • @alveolate
    @alveolate 5 лет назад +5

    "i don't know if there's anyone out there with that many friends..."
    right after saying the number is orders of magnitude larger than the total number of particles in the universe :O

  • @Chorizzosoup
    @Chorizzosoup 5 лет назад

    such clarity! Please continue making more videos, Erica.

  • @samwhite7717
    @samwhite7717 5 лет назад +5

    The best conceivable Christmas present. Thank you.

  • @tommyrjensen
    @tommyrjensen Год назад

    Very nice lecture indeed. Two small remarks:
    The graph of a function, as known from school, does fall under the same umbrella as a graph in Graph Theory. Only it is drawn in a different way.
    And "tensor product" is not the only name for the product in question, nor even the most common name. Just "product" or "Cartesian product" seem more used.

  • @jerryh559
    @jerryh559 5 лет назад +130

    Almost 3.14 milion subs.

  • @BerenddeBoer
    @BerenddeBoer 7 месяцев назад +1

    Very well explained, master teacher!

  • @wopol538
    @wopol538 5 лет назад +5

    She explains graphs better than any of my university teachers

  • @kedarbahulkar189
    @kedarbahulkar189 4 года назад

    Questions ,
    1. Why do we connect two unlikely groups ? i.e connect economist and teacher
    2. @9:02 I might have missed it, but when do the teacher (yellow) and the math prof (red) meet ?

  • @ShinySwalot
    @ShinySwalot 5 лет назад +89

    Is the breakthrough that they finally managed to spell his name correctly?

    • @macleadg
      @macleadg 5 лет назад +12

      Shiny Swalot That’s still an unsolved problem.

    • @X_Baron
      @X_Baron 5 лет назад +2

      She actually pronounces it really well. :D

    • @oldinion
      @oldinion 5 лет назад +6

      It's a pretty typical finnish heritage last name though. Nothing difficult to spell.

    • @macleadg
      @macleadg 5 лет назад +13

      oldinion This is an aspect of social interaction called a “joke”, which is easy to spell, but difficult for some to understand.

    • @t71024
      @t71024 5 лет назад +3

      Hedetniemi can be spelled right by just copying and pasting but it's obviously tricky to pronounce. Those dang diphthongs!

  • @mydemon
    @mydemon 6 месяцев назад +1

    Shes a great communicator. Top notch.

  • @isanskari
    @isanskari 5 лет назад +16

    Last time I was this early, RUclips used to pause at 301 views

  • @haris525
    @haris525 5 лет назад

    I have gotten into graph theory recently. I like it a lot and It makes neural networks easier to understand. It is pretty complicated if you try to look at the analysis portion of it.

  • @42f87d89
    @42f87d89 5 лет назад +4

    She's so good at communicating, I almost forgot she called sudoku pseudo-coup

  • @waxt0n
    @waxt0n 4 года назад

    that sudoku at 3:31 is missing an 8 at position c2 (if youre using chess notation)

  • @k98killer
    @k98killer 5 лет назад +10

    I was half expecting the "well, we're here in Berkeley" sentence to end with "so we'll add 'protesting' as a hobby".

  • @7th_CAV_Trooper
    @7th_CAV_Trooper 3 года назад

    If you combine the two colorings of the tensor product you would get a 3rd color, which could be used as a weighted quality modifier for the incident edges.