The HEARTBREAK of NHL Icons Without a Stanley Cup
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- The HEARTBREAK of NHL Icons Without a Stanley Cup
Discover the heartbreaking stories of NHL icons who never won a Stanley Cup. From legends to fan favorites, these players left a mark on the game despite not hoisting the ultimate prize. Watch to learn about these legendary players' incredible careers and the one thing that always eluded them.
From Roberto Luongo and Carey Price to Paul Kariya and Joe Thornton, there are dozens of NHL legends - many of them Hall of Famers - who never won a Stanley Cup. In this video, we'll spotlight one legend for each NHL team who never raised Lord Stanley's coveted trophy.
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EDIT: Tony Esposito won a Cup with the 1969 Canadiens. He didn't play a playoff game but was always dressed as the backup, so his name is on the Cup. Maybe Doug Wilson would be the greatest Hawk to never raise the Cup?
As a reminder, our list only contains players who never won a Cup *anywhere* in their career. I know there are tons of great players like Adam Oates, Rick Middleton, Doug Wilson, Darryl Sittler, Mats Sundin, Alexander Mogilny, Keith Tkachuk, Phil Housley, and plenty others who didn't make this list - especially the more journeymen guys. That said, which player on this list surprises you most?
Can you do a small favour and stop merging different teams who just happen to play in a city that previously had a different team? I'm saying this not to be meant as being harsh, but to help you improve your videos as I think you have a true passion for what you're doing and I want to see you do well at it.
The current Winnipeg Jets are not the same team that Howerchuk played for, he was retired by the time this team was awarded a franchise in Atlanta as the Atlanta Thrashers. He could qualify as the best player for the Winnipeg Jets/Phoenix-Arizona Coyotes/Salt Lake City/Utah (insert name here), but the current Winnipeg Jets franchise has nothing to do with that franchise, other then that they moved to Winnipeg when the Thrashers become the second Atlanta team to fail and move to Canada, and bought the rights to the name Jets from the then still owners of the Jets name, the then Phoenix Coyotes. When picking players for lists like this, it's important to do your due diligence and not pick players who never played for the team you're slotting them in for.
Dale Howerchuk never played for the Atlanta Thrashers/Winnipeg Jets 2.0 - he played for the Winnipeg Jets 1.0/Phoenix Coyotes and when the Coyotes complete their move to Utah, they'll STILL be the same team that started out in Winnipeg.
Had the Capitals not won in 2018, Ovi would have went down as the greatest player of all time to never win the cup
hoping dallas so pavs and benn can get one. but also suter whose there aswell.
that Mantle has now been passed to Connor McDavid
McDavid is still early in his career he shouldn’t even be on this list I’m sure he will hoist the cup soon enough
This is like saying had Gretzky never won the cup he would be the greatest of all time to never win the cup
@@36incDallas is looking like they’re the team to beat so far right now
Marcel Dionne when he retired in 1989 was second under Gordie Howe in all time goals, assists, and points, until that Gretzky guy eventually broke it all... and then he was third for a while until Messier, Jagr, and Ron Francis surpassed him, but taking far more games to do so.
Such a shame he had to play on mediocre to bad teams for his entire career that relied on him and/or his line almost exclusively for scoring.
Cam Neely won the Cup in 2011 with the Bruins as an executive. He was finally able to lift and have his name engraved on the trophy that eluded him as a player.
I'm glad you picked Salming for the Leafs. I thought you might pick Sundin or maybe Sittler, but Salming was an amazing player. I loved watching him play.
Months ago I met someone who was drafted into the WHA around that era but grew up playing with plenty of NHLers. He had the most glowing praise for Salming's game...it was over a few beers, so I wish I could remember more 😆
Marcel Dionne is such an underrated, forgotten about great, like everyone agrees he was great but most dont seem to remember how great. Hes legitimately a top 10 best player of all time
7:08 Reine was truly “Too good right now” in 2017 too bad he didn’t win the Stanley Cup
Gartner was on the 1994 Rangers but traded at the deadline.
He was traded for mattaeu i think who scored the double overtime thriller over jersey
@@AdmirDemondo I think he was traded for Glenn Anderson, and Tony Amonte was traded for Matteau.
Gartner was traded for Glenn Anderson, 1994 4th round pick (100th overall Alexander Korobolin) and the rights to a minor league. (Scott Malone)
Glenn Anderson had 6 points (3 goals, 3 assists) in 23 games that post season.
Note on Tony Esposito: He actually won the Cup with the Canadiens in 1969. He wasn’t the starter but (because of injuries) he got into a fair number of games and was on the bench for some playoff games (though he never played in the playoffs). His name is included on the Stanley Cup because he was a part of the team throughout the season. That counts as a Cup win to me! Great list otherwise!😀
When I evaluated Boston Bruins players, I thought "What about Tuukka Rask?" I looked on hockey-reference and saw he had no Stanley Cup to his credit, but after searching on Google Images, I saw his name engraved on the Cup, so I knew he couldn't be part of this list. Dangit, wish I did that for Tony O! 😆
@@TwistedWristerHockey Yeah, I remember Tuukka Rask was backing up Tim Thomas in the 2011 Bruins Cup Run.
You definitely got Buffalo right on that one him and his linemates The French Connection have a statue outside the arena. They are very iconic in Buffalo
Tony Esposito won the cup with Montreal before being traded to Chicago.
So many great players you left off. Wendal Clark . Mats sundin Jeremy roenik Curtis Joseph. Ryan smith. Owen Nolan. The sedins. Patrick marleau.
One of my favorite players who was almost on this list was Igor Larianov. Except he did get his cup win just before retirement with the Detroit Red Wings as they started their dynasty just in time for the former member of the KLM line, and one time line mate of The Russian Rocket who was on this list.
Carey Price is biggest heartbreak because of how great he was and such a nice human.
Great video concept! Good execution!
Great subject matter Nick and a well produced video. I had forgotten about some of these players. I was about to call you on Tony O with the Habs but I see you added that info in a comment.
Tony Esposito won a cup with Montreal in 1969
Oh snap, you're right! Although he didn't play any playoff games, he was dressed as the backup. I was just going off hockey-reference, so I didn't look closer at his one year with the Habs. Well then, maybe Doug Wilson is the best Hawk to never win the Cup.
Good video though
Actually, it was 68
Tony Esposito has won a Stanley Cup. He was on the 1968 Canadiens team that won the cup
Well, I guess picking him was an "oopsie".
Good choices, I certainly agree with most of these. Some nice pulls, too. One name that did come to my mind was Brian Bradley, who was Tampa’s first star in the 90s and played well for them in their early years, Still ranks in the top six in team history in both GPG and APG rates. He also spent six seasons with the club compared to Bishop’s (essentially) 3 1/2.
As for the question of who I’m rooting for, that’s easy: as a Sharks fan I’d be thrilled to see Joe Pavelski finally lift the Cup.
Great video, right on. Informative with great footage! 5 stars
Shea Weber is very close to making this list
He should be he came close in 2021 with the Habs
Cam Neely won the Stanley cup as bruins president in 2011 still counts
Anaheim "Mighty" Ducks - Paul Kariya
Arizona Coyotes - Shane Doan
Boston Bruins - Cam Neely
Buffalo Sabres - Ryan Miller
Calgary Flames - Jarome Iginla
Columbus Blue Jackets - Rick Nash
Colorado Avalanche - Paul Statsny
Carolina Hurricanes - Sebastian Aho
Chicago Blackhawks - Tony Esposito
Dallas Stars - Jamie Benn
Detroit Red Wings - Norm Ullman
Edmonton Oilers - Ryan Smyth
Florida Panthers - Roberto Luongo
Las Vegas Golden Knights -
Los Angeles Kings - Marcel Dionne
Minnesota Wild - Miiko Koivu
Montreal Canadiens - Carey Price
Nashville Predators - Pekka Rinne
New Jersey Devils - Zack Parise
New York Rangers - Henrik Lundqvist
New York Islanders - Pat Lafontaine
Ottawa Senators - Daniel Alfredsson
Philadelphia Flyers - Eric Lindros
Pittsburgh Penguins - Rick Kehoe
San Jose Sharks - Joe Thornton
St. Louis Blues - Bernie Federko
Seattle Kraken - (to young franchise)
Tampa Bay Lightning - Ben Bishop
Toronto Maple Leafs - Mats Sundin
Vancouver Canucks - Trevor Linden
Washington Capitals - Peter Bondra
Winnipeg Jets - Dale Hawerchuck / Hellybuck
Cam Neely won the cup as bruins president in 2011
I love the Ryan Miller and Peter Bondra picks. They were integral to their teams competing for the Cup.
@@AdmirDemondo Well kind of, but never as a player.
"Arizona Coyotes - Shane Doan"
good pick, though I might argue Dale Howerchuk as he played for the same franchise when they were still in Winnipeg, and he's not a good pick for the current Winnipeg Jets as that franchise didn't even exist during Howerchuk's career. They started as the Atlanta Thrashers after Howerchuk had already retired and then moved to Winnipeg and bought the rights to the name and logo from the Phoenix Coyotes. So they're most definitely different franchises as both still exist to this day, even if the Coyotes are moving and renaming for the 2nd time
"Winnipeg Jets - Dale Hawerchuck / Hellybuck"
Howerchuk as I mentioned above is impossible, he never played for the Thrashers-Jets 2 franchise. Hellybuck, yes, I could see him being a pick at present. Vezina candidate and no cups as of yet. Though I'd also want to look at some of the Thrashers players (many of whom moved with the team to Winnipeg) to see who's the best among them might also be a candidate.
@@Seriously_Unserious Very fair argument, and I agree with it!
The best player from the Avs to never win a cup in my opinion was Peter Stastny. I know he wasn't on the Avs but he was on the Nordiques
Yeah if this was about greater franchises and not just teams where they're currently located, Peter Stastny would be the guy. Some other great Nordiques could be in the conversation as well.
@@TwistedWristerHockey that's why I said I know you're talking about where a team is currently located not the franchises themselves. But if you do ever do a video on that please include the Stastny brothers
What about Owen Nolan ? He had such a strong career and played mostly for the nordiques
@@AdmirDemondo fair but the Stastny brothers were absolutely dominant players
@@TwistedWristerHockey Teams moving can get confusing, especially as they usually change their name. Winnipeg is a particularly confusing one as people often mistake the current Jets team who came from the Atlanta Thrashers for the one that moved to Phoenix and renamed to the Coyotes but retained the IP rights to the name and logos of the old Jets. And the Coyotes are NOT defect BTW, the franchise still exists, as whatever they name them for their move to Utah, which only makes the Jets-Coyotes-Utah franchise all the more confusing to follow.
The New Jersey Devils are another tricky one as they have that often forgotten history as the Kansas City Scouts and Colorado Rockies (not the baseball team) before finally finding their long term home in New Jersey.
The Dallas Stars are probably the trickiest of the lot though, as they have a history that traces back to the Minnesota North Stars (straightforward so far), but due to co-ownership, their history also traces to the San Francisco/Oakland/California/Bay Area Seals with a move to Cleveland to finish off as the Cleveland Barrons. With the original Seals Owners selling out their remaining shares of the then North Stars franchise to get the expansion San Jose Sharks. yeah, that's a real mind-bender there of moves, name changes and co-ownerships. EDIT: In fact, that would be a great video for you to talk about that convoluted maze of connections linking those 3 franchises (1 moved, 1 defunct, 1 still in its original place)
This list should be for players that never won a cup before retirement. McDavid is only 27, lots of hockey left. Any current player playing, should not be on the list. If that nullifies later expansions teams so be it.
Great choice of topic for a video! It's gotta be Jumbo or Marleau but they have gold medals from the best Olympics.
Go Rangers and Go Sharks in the off-season and beyond
Wow... How did Tony O not get the cup... He is just a player I always assumed had multiples! Great video!!
509 Goal Saved Above Average in 15 years with Chicago, too 😮
Actually, he does have his name on the Cup from his first season in 1968-69 with the Canadiens. He didn't play in any postseason games but was still suited up as the backup - kind of like Tuukka Rask with the Bruins in 2011.
Nick. I believe that I was right about Tony O Esposito, unless you are only counting when the players were playing for their Main Team, in this case, The Chicago Black Hawks. If so, then you are right. PS. I even was surprised, thinking about Tony O Esposito as a lifelong Chicago Black Hawk, that he'd not won, however, I happened to see some Article or Video that, even though he didn't win in Chicago, he has A Ring with Montreal. Please get back to me on this.
another great video!
As a players hockey career ticks by you are going to have to choose between money, or the Cup. Choose one..
Great Video, but, I think that it's wrong about Tony O Esposito. While he never won A Stanley Cup with Chicago, from what I understand, he won A Stanley Cup Ring, as A Player With The Montreal Canadiens before The Chicago Black Hawks had picked him up. Before he was A Chicago Black Hawk, he was The Backup in Montreal, in the 1968-69 or 1969-70 Season, I believe. Let me know what you think & if I'm right.
Yup, you're right, and I saw that his name is engraved on the Cup. I updated my pinned comment with the correction, too. I was going off of hockey-reference, which is a terrific resource, but it doesn't show goalies like Esposito or Rask as having a Cup, even though their name is on it.
@@TwistedWristerHockey Thanks, Nick. Yeah. Since he's My Idol, as A Chicago Black Hawks Goalie (I'm like Garth in Wayne's World, in that I had A Chicago Black Hawks Jersey with #35 that I wore playing Street/Roller Hockey). Thanks, again, for your confirmation & for appreciating my comment. Keep up the good work & the videos
@@mariovaccarella6854 My pleasure 😎
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@@petrpumpkineater Thank You for your comment. He's since sent me a comment he's corrected/admitted that he's wrong & has been so very nice. I can understand the mistake. I'd thought that Tony O Esposito had only been A Chicago Black Hawk & never won A Stanley Cup, until I'd found out about his Cup Ring. Let's be cool with him. He seems like a really nice guy & admitted it.
between Boston and Washington Adam Oates should have been on there , greatest player of all time that has not and cannot win a Stanley Cup
You forgot his most iconic season with St Louis feeding Hull his 86 goal season. (yeah, pun intended, deal with it)
Omg coyotes had best ever center ice
Think about this. If the Stars did not trade Iginla to Calgary for Nieuwendyk, do you think Iginla would have a cup and a ring? Iginla was drafted in the 1998 draft. Meaning if he had waited 1 year, he would've been a champion.
This is not correct. Niewyndyk was with the stars in 96. Iginla was picked in 95 draft
@@andrewgreenwood2745 Look. Point is do you think we would have a cup if Iginla wasn't traded to Calgary for Nieuwendyk? Because he was drafted 2nd overall by Dallas and Calgary said "hey, we want someone young, we can give you a good leader and a grizzled veteran for him"
Ullman isn't a bad pick for the Wings. I'd be torn between him and Crozier.
i feel like this could be another video too- like seperated by people who actually have a chance to change it and get a cup from the legends who have no second shot cause retired.
That sounds like Post2Post music.
Tony Esposito won a cup with the Canadiens
Penguins could be Straka or Kovalev
Kovelev won a cup with the rangers in 1994
I thought Kariya won a cup in Colorado? Just reaffirms my point, you can still go down in history as a prolific player without winning a cup.
Kariya played 1 game for the Avalanche in the 2004 playoffs, but they were eliminated in the second round. But yes, plenty of the greatest to ever lace them up never raised the Cup. I mean, look at Bure, scoring around 60 goals several times in a low-scoring era.
@@TwistedWristerHockey IMO Bure could have been even better then he was, as I still remember him losing a bit of his speed to a Bryan Marchmant knee on knee in the strike shortened 1995 season. Put Bure out for the rest of the season and part of the 1996 campaign and when he did come back, he wasn't quite as fast as he used to be. Still amazing hands and amazing cannon of a shot, but quite the impossible speed he had before the knee hunting hit. IMO Marchment should have been penalized and suspended for that.
The craziest thing about this video is the casual reminders that the San Jose Sharks had once been an actually good hockey team.
Edit - also, who the heck is Dale Haverchuk? Pronouncing names properly is rather essential if you want to be taken seriously.
Also placing players for a team they ACTUALLY played for is also kind of important and Howerchuk never played for the Thrashers-Jets 2 franchise, as he retired before that franchise even existed. He played for the Original Jets who moved to Arizona who are moving to Utah. Different franchises who both still exist.
Lots to choose from with Vancouver: Linden, Luongo, Sedins, and Naslund ☠
Jovocop. McLean, Rota, Ohlund, Edler.
Did Mogiliny ever win a cup? I know he didn't with the Sabers or Canucks, but where did he go after the Canucks and did they win with him on their team?
@@Seriously_Unserious Mogilny won a Cup with NJ. That's his one and only Cup
@@freiflug83 Thanks for clarifying that. Alexander the Great was great and deserved that Cup win.
For the Oilers besides Smyth never winning I would also add CuJo. Curtis Joseph never won a cup as well. Then again I am biased as I was one of his Children Hospital Kids who watched him from his sky box in the 90s in Edmonton.
Gilles Gilbert and Tim Kerr are good picks too
Gartner too
So many Toronto options. Could be their own list of 32 lol.
Hopefully Jamie Benn will finally get his cup this year.
I'm hoping Conner McDavid will get his, now that JT Miller, Demko and Petterson can't get theirs this year. It's long past time for the Stanley Cup to come home to Canada.
Perhaps should have limited it to retired players? Or at least players who didn't play this year? Benn or McDavid might age this quickly.
That's a fair point, especially with Benn considering how the Stars look. I actually produced this video two years ago when the channel was a lot smaller, and there I selected only retired players. But I wanted to make sure I deviated enough from the previous version, which had some of the names I called out here as sort of honorable mentions - Turco, Ryan Smyth, and Lindros to name a few.
From the Colorado Avalanche Mats Sundin😆😆😆 Or The Leafs🤔
myself personally I would not have chosen any currently active players. ie Connor McDavid, although he has not to this point won a Stanley Cup he still can. for Edmonton I would have said Ryan Smyth. If McDavid retires without a cup then it will easily become him
That would completely disqualify any picks from the 2 newest teams as neither have been around long enough to qualify without active players counting.
For the Avalanche I would actually go with the Nordiques legend Peter Stastny!
If we lump in Nordiques player, then yeah it's him hands-down.
@@TwistedWristerHockey You really should, they're the same franchise, moves and name changes don't change that. For that matter, the Nordiques-Avalanche franchise also did win a WHA championship while they were with that league, though that wouldn't count if you're only counting Stanley Cups specifically, and I don't think any of the Statsney brothers were with the team yet until after the WHA folded and they joined the NHL.
I feel like Adam Oates and Pavel Bure should have been on here
Bure was my guy for the Canucks. Oates could be a great pick for the Blues, but although I thought about him with the Bruins, I wanted to choose someone who spent more of their career with Boston.
@TwistedWristerHockey Oh interesting. I had to get back to work, so I just assumed the Sedins or Linden would be on there. Jovanoski is another good option.
had to sub after this
"Haverchuk"? I've always heard it pronounced "howerchuck".
It is. Also he never played for the Thrashers-Jets 2 franchise. He had retired before the Thrashers started their first season, so he can't possibly have played for them. The franchise he played for is the one who passed through Arizona on their way to Utah, the Original Jets.
HOWerchuk. Not Haverchuk.
Also, Howerchuk never played for the current Winnipeg Jets franchise, which traces back to the Atlanta Thrashers and Howerchuk was most definitely retired by the time the Thrashers expanded into the NHL. He should have been on the Jets-Coyotes-Utah franchise line as that's the franchise he actually played for. I know the duplicate names and moves can make that one a bit confusing, but you really do have to be careful about that when dealing with all things Winnipeg, Atlanta, Phoenix and now Utah. Atlanta has links to the Flames franchise which moved to Calgary, and the Thrashers-Jets Franchise which moved to Winnipeg and bought back the old team name by popular demand and the OG Jets that moved to Arizona and changed their name to the Coyotes and are in the process of moving and changing team name again to Utah, further adding to the confusion of those franchises.
@@Seriously_Unserious That's almost perverse. It is perverse!
With the Bruins i would have taken Raymond Bourque. carried a franchise for almost two decades. his only fault was his loyalty to an organization. glad he won a Cup with the Avalanche.
For this video, I'm focusing on players who didn't win a Cup anywhere in their career. So as legendary as Bourque is to the Bruins, I kept him off my list since he won with the Avalanche.
Exactly you could make the same argument for Dominic Hasek and Dave andreychuck
Another choice from the Bruins could have been Rick Middleton.
@@bethany_dawn5222 Middleton was an excellent player for many years. but Raymond Bourque was one of the greatest players in NHL history.
@@timothyflanigan1777 I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m just going by the rules set by the producer of the video. And Bourque won the cup with the Avs.
*note Arizona is Inactive, not defunct. there is a difference between the two. also, the modern jets are an extention of the atlanta thrashers, counting them in with the old Jets is wrong. the old jets are actually tied to Arizona as far as records and franchise history goes. for a hockey channel, you are clearly missing some important information. also, not putting Nash as CBJ's is criminal
Note: Arizona is neither inactive NOR defunct, they're MOVING. Defunct means FOLDING, as in no longer exist anywhere, in any form, players up for a dispersal draft. That's not happening, they're moving, roster, branding and all to a new city, that's it. Just like they moved, branding, roster, and all from Winnipeg to Phoenix in the 90s. Also, the Jets that moved to Arizona are not the same franchise as the Jets that moved from Atlanta. Dale Howerchuk never played for the Jets that moved from Atlanta, and wasn't even active in the NHL by the time the Thrashers played their first game. He played for the Jets that moved to Arizona.
Your oilers pick might be obselete with in the next 2 weeks lol
Or your blue jackets pick aswell
Picking active players is cheating.
Canucks- Trevor Linden. Not Buré. Linden gave far more to the team than Burés selfish play, and carried the team for more years than the Russian Scud.
Bure did a ton for the team. Linden is my favorate Cancuk of all time but without Bure, there IS NO 1994 Cup Drive. He was the Franchise Player who made it possible. he also played for 2 seasons of asking for a trade before he lost his patience and sat out demanding Stand Pat heaven forbit MAKE A TRADE! (for the record, I loved his early moves to build up that early 90s team, but in the mid 90s when it was clear moves were needed to retool the team, he did nothing, not even moving a player who was getting unhappy here.
@@Seriously_Unserious Bure played for himself. yes he had speed and flash but would rather take a low-chance shot than pass the puck. He did not do community support events, he even refused to do promotions where he would get paid. in his time there he did one radio spot for a car lot, that gave him a car. He was franchise player because management shelled out too much and said he was it. Kirk McLean did more to get Canucks to playoffs and to the final than Bure. just because play-by-play guys got excited by breakaways didn't mean he deserved all the credit. I agree that Quinn lost the thread, but he had that old school stay-home defensemen mentality and did not know how to coach forwards. let them be stars...
Oh dw Jamie can get removed from this list very soon
Some of these players are still early in there careers and shouldn’t be In this video
Agree
💯 - if you're doing this, may as well put Elias Pettersson or Conner Bedard on this list too then.