Rather shocked that it's not! FAQ says it actually IS for "recent" purchasers but (besides owning nearly every other product from them) I just purchased Nectar 3 Standard less than 5 weeks before this launched and I'm being asked for more money. what next? more money so these features can work right with my Ozone Advanced PLUS, and Neutron Advanced Plus Turbo Extreme? (**Turbo and Extreme would also cost extra no of course!) *facepalm
Same, listening back on Adam A7s. I have trouble believing from the sample they posted here anyone would consistently pick out the "improvement" in a blind ABX test.
@@Cadmeus I know I couldn't. Would think I was being punk'd. The new verb looks pretty cool in this update. Other than that, I don't see/hear anything that's all that impressive. (Already have Stutter Edit). Certainly not going to pay $199 for a new reverb. Too bad, really. I was excited about this, but will wait for the next big update and hope it's a little more earth shaking.
@@IDigress I agree! Unmask only does what’s needed, and that track didn’t need much unmasking. If it were more noticeable than that it would’ve been too much.
Love Izotope and I’ll happily pay upgrade prices of Nectar/Neutron/Ozone from one gen to the next. But as a Nectar 3 owner, having to upgrade to Nectar 3 “Plus” is just rude.
This version should be an updated version of Nectar 3. But why is it a plus version? It should be free, if you already owned Nectar 3! Even 49$ for an update is way to much...
WHY IS THIS NOT A FREE UPDATE FOR CURRENT NECTAR 3 OWNERS? Wow iZotope...... This is crazy disappointing. I'm definitely not purchasing any of your products full price anymore, your business model sucks. No respect for the loyal customers.
This not being a free upgrade for Nectar 3 owners is nonsense. I own the whole suite but will never pay for another izotope plugin again. If it was a totally new nectar 4 I wouldn’t even care, but I bought this full V3 version thinking I had the top of the line option and now it’s like their adding DLC in a almost $300 plugin! This leaves a bad taste as usual from grubby anti consumer izotope. Big thumbs down 👎
Well said! all the comments agree in one voice and i wonder how many comments they already deleted!? Also own nearly everything they make and this is a deeply insulting cash grab. This will not be soon forgotten!
This company would do anything to eat you and your wallet. What pay for enhanced masking if you already have Nectar 3. They will lose trust along with their customers.
I agree w/ your sentiment to an extent, but it's not like they created the new code for free. If ppl don't pay for new development than it will not happen. If you were happy with nectar for the price you paid, why would you be unhappy there is an upgrade. You still have the thing you were happy to purchase , as it was when you decided to get it...they are doing amazing things w/ audio processing, I'm not mad if new developments mean more investment to unlock additional features 🤷♂️ 2cents
This is appalling. They call this a "Loyalty Offer" to upgrade to Plus? I've spent WAY more money than I should on your products. Asking for ANY money for this upgrade is simply wrong. Sorry iZotope. I will not buy another product from you again. You have forever lost a customer. Hope your nickle and dime strategy blows up in your face. I'm seriously disgusted...
This unmasking function is easily replicated with a multiband compressor like Pro MB from fabfilter on the instruments buss and a sidechain link from the vocal buss. And it's even more tweakable. Better learn to mix properly and get to know what you are doing instead of relying on automated functions.
iZotope's own Neutron has dynamic EQ that does this and I assume that's what this feature uses under the hood. The "value add" of this unmasking feature is that it picks the frequencies for you.
Please don't copy Waves business model. I hate the way they sell their products and I have stopped buying their products entirely!! I love your plugins iZotope so please don't do bad business decisions like this one...
Wow an incremental update for $50, for a feature that should have been there already. For what these plugins cost this should have been free, Incredible! No Thanks!
Wow, I don't think I've ever actually seen such a poorly received product launch. READ YOUR COMMENTS IZOTOPE, YOU'VE DISGUSTED AND INSULTED YOUR CUSTOMERS! Seriously bad move...
I think the visual thing with colors affects what we think of the productions. I listened without looking at the screen on the 2nd before and after and found no noticeable difference. Very similar to what Glenn Fricker did in his "Pro-Tools is Better Than Reaper" video.
I was comforted by comments from several other people who also couldn't tell any difference between Before and After. Maybe a case of the Emperor's new clothes.
Listen to the low end of the vocal, you´ll perceive it as the vocals sounding more full. I´m not sure it´s better though, and it´s also something I would probably have catered for in the mix/production if I thought it was a problem
Okay so this will help cut down on time masking and unmasking but i wanna know the difference cost. Respectfully, i wouldnt pay more than 30 to upgrade my standard
Izotope is usually great at honoring their customers. Hopefully the comments section will provide valuable feedback for them so they stay on track. #DontDoItAgain #FreeFirmwareUpdate
lol i literally bought nectar 3 last week now theres nectar 3 plus and its a "completely different plugin" so i have to spend another $50 if i want to upgrade
Update: I checked my plugin portal and It now says I have Nectar 3 Plus. I'm guessing because I recently bought Nectar 3 they decided to be nice and give me the upgrade. Good Job Izotope
not a troll: I cannot hear any difference between before/after - could someone please point me into a direction as to what to listen for that changed here? I replayed that on NFMs and also very good cans - but I just can't make out any difference whatsoever..
No respect for loyal customers haha im done paying to upgrade my ozone, nectar, vocalsynth, insight, and rx every year for a while. At least fabfilters plugins get cheaper when you have more. These are like wow special upgrade for only 299 and then come out with one new feature for another 50 bucks wat da fack izotope
@@bg3nius That is incorrect. There is no Nectar "advanced", only Elements and Standard, and now Plus. also it is not free for anyone unless they made their purchase "recently". how recently, they don't actually say, but I purchased "Standard" 5 weeks before this video launched, and they still want to squeeze me for more money (I also own nearly every other product they make, including both Ozone and Neutron - "Advanced"...) also, if you read basically any of the other comments, you'd see that's all anyone is talking about and all are pretty insulted and shocked.
This is a bloody insult that u want us to pay for what is essentially a patch with some added features and even more of an insult the upgrade cost is the same for those that own elements as us with the standard version. Now.... I have been buying iZotope products since Ozone 4 and today u have lost lots of respect from me and no doubt countless others, iZotope is no longer a professionals choice for me, it will be a DESPARATE choice.... peace..
$49 upgrade fee and barely any mention for current users? I didn't even get an email. Are Izotope that ashamed of charging current users for this? This should be a free update for current users. Its not like there have been many updates or patches since it launched. Wont be "upgrading' myself. Sorry but this stinks.
just wanted to say you can't hear it on the video but my buddy bought the pluckin and let me listen to it working and I was amazed! at the difference!! the pluckin is worth getting
You guys definitely dropped the ball with this one. This should absolutely be a free update for current users. Barely anything note worthy at all was even added in this "new" version. Really disappointed iZotope.
Lol, so they basically just fixed the bugs of the plugin and called it with a new name... This definitely should be free for nectar 3 owners, as this is what the plugin should've been in the first place...
So 2 months has passed since the upload of this video. After so many negative comments, did iZotope change their mind? Is the upgrade still not free? (I purchased nectar 3 couple months ago, which was part of the tonal balance control bundle, and finally will have time to mix my songs next month. So haven’t checked myself )
Honestly speaking, it's a useless update to pay. When you update your software, it should have new features that will over power the previous software. If this is a free update it's worth it. But buying this for just masking or unmasking, nope. Spend your money wisely guys, this is clearly a trap.
Hey, does anyone know if you can do this with Ableton? I know I have to do an annoying side chain / dynamic eq / masking workaround with Neutron 3. Hoping someone has an idea about this? Perhaps the Izotope people can weigh in?
worst plugin demo ever, not only couldn't hear any difference but also in the sidechain section, it didn't even demoed a non-vocal part to show how it only affects when the vocal is present. but I really loved the dynamic & Sidechain function update itself.
Audio processing tech is so dope these days. All these important tasks that had 2 be manually done b4 are simply automated , even if not perfectly its way better to have a starting point than manually automating eq 2handle masking , constant AB n tweaking etc. Good starting points n probably at times better than what someone could do by ear. Great time 2 b alive lol
any1 else who doesnt have perfect pitch and can hear any difference at all? i feel this is the type of thing when you tune your guitar but its 1 or 2 cents higher or lower. its not noticable for any normal individual
Unmasking seems like a great feature ! Unmasking can be used only when engaging side chains & playing other tracks.I guess I need to look into a tutorial of the unmasking.Thanks for the video.
I honestly preferred the "before" mix in every example. Several times through with eyes closed. The vocal sits better *inside* the music instead of on top of. Not saying that the feature doesn't have a use, but that example didn't flatter it.
Definitely should have been a freebie to current owner and/or been included in original release. I whinged about it and got a 30$ discount which was helpful but frankly, after trying it out, doesn't do much that I couldn't already do with FAB Filters. Also, the 'listening' done by the software is only for 12 odd bars and it may suit that section of music conflicts, but what about other sections where there are different dynamics. You'd have to place those vocal on a new channel with N3+ on it and do another assessment. Not impressed at all and not happy with doling out money for it in the first place...sucked in I think.
this is a total scam from izotope... i payed the full price for nectar 3 and now they want me to buy the plugin again for usable pitch detection and relay plugin. wtf atleast fix the problems in nectar 3, such awful company i will never reccommend izotope to anybody
Nonsense. This should be a free update for Nectar 3 owners.
It isn't? Wtf
why? cuz you say so?
@@LU-KI or probably because the added one new feature that most people probably don't care about
Rather shocked that it's not! FAQ says it actually IS for "recent" purchasers but (besides owning nearly every other product from them) I just purchased Nectar 3 Standard less than 5 weeks before this launched and I'm being asked for more money. what next? more money so these features can work right with my Ozone Advanced PLUS, and Neutron Advanced Plus Turbo Extreme? (**Turbo and Extreme would also cost extra no of course!) *facepalm
Mine updated for free. I bought nectar 3 6 months ago.
How is this not a free upgrade? Long time customer and fan, AMAZED AND INSULTED!
I'm wondering the same question as everyone else, why is this not just a upgrade for current users as I am one of those users
they gonna start making us pay $30 (HALF OFF) to install the plugin
I have a hard time hearing a difference on my beyerdynamic dt770 pro.
Glad you posted this. I thought I was going crazy. I can't hear any difference in my Sony headphones either.
Same, listening back on Adam A7s. I have trouble believing from the sample they posted here anyone would consistently pick out the "improvement" in a blind ABX test.
@@Cadmeus I know I couldn't. Would think I was being punk'd.
The new verb looks pretty cool in this update. Other than that, I don't see/hear anything that's all that impressive. (Already have Stutter Edit). Certainly not going to pay $199 for a new reverb.
Too bad, really. I was excited about this, but will wait for the next big update and hope it's a little more earth shaking.
Surely they could have found a more noticeable example 😂
@@IDigress I agree! Unmask only does what’s needed, and that track didn’t need much unmasking. If it were more noticeable than that it would’ve been too much.
Love Izotope and I’ll happily pay upgrade prices of Nectar/Neutron/Ozone from one gen to the next. But as a Nectar 3 owner, having to upgrade to Nectar 3 “Plus” is just rude.
This version should be an updated version of Nectar 3.
But why is it a plus version?
It should be free, if you already owned Nectar 3!
Even 49$ for an update is way to much...
I can update my DAW with 60$, Lol
@@ashkanaref4056 😂👍
Second this. What a robbery attempt.
It's a free update if you got one of their bundles.
@@Lonewolfs8128 No it's not. Maybe for the most expensive bundle, but for me who owns Tonal Balance Bundle it's 49$
WHY IS THIS NOT A FREE UPDATE FOR CURRENT NECTAR 3 OWNERS? Wow iZotope...... This is crazy disappointing. I'm definitely not purchasing any of your products full price anymore, your business model sucks. No respect for the loyal customers.
TOUT à fait d'accord, c'est lamentable
So the main difference between nectar plus and nectar standard is having more fine control over the "unmask" feature?
They updated the pitch recognition and correction feature
This not being a free upgrade for Nectar 3 owners is nonsense. I own the whole suite but will never pay for another izotope plugin again. If it was a totally new nectar 4 I wouldn’t even care, but I bought this full V3 version thinking I had the top of the line option and now it’s like their adding DLC in a almost $300 plugin! This leaves a bad taste as usual from grubby anti consumer izotope. Big thumbs down 👎
Well said! all the comments agree in one voice and i wonder how many comments they already deleted!? Also own nearly everything they make and this is a deeply insulting cash grab. This will not be soon forgotten!
This company would do anything to eat you and your wallet. What pay for enhanced masking if you already have Nectar 3. They will lose trust along with their customers.
I agree w/ your sentiment to an extent, but it's not like they created the new code for free. If ppl don't pay for new development than it will not happen. If you were happy with nectar for the price you paid, why would you be unhappy there is an upgrade. You still have the thing you were happy to purchase , as it was when you decided to get it...they are doing amazing things w/ audio processing, I'm not mad if new developments mean more investment to unlock additional features 🤷♂️ 2cents
This is appalling. They call this a "Loyalty Offer" to upgrade to Plus? I've spent WAY more money than I should on your products. Asking for ANY money for this upgrade is simply wrong. Sorry iZotope. I will not buy another product from you again. You have forever lost a customer. Hope your nickle and dime strategy blows up in your face. I'm seriously disgusted...
Well said!
Hey iZotope, I really Love Your stuff but yeah... that should be a free update...
$50 for barely one new feature is just ridiculous
That's why people tend to buy paid updates every other update release rather than each one.
This unmasking function is easily replicated with a multiband compressor like Pro MB from fabfilter on the instruments buss and a sidechain link from the vocal buss. And it's even more tweakable. Better learn to mix properly and get to know what you are doing instead of relying on automated functions.
Even the Pro Q 3 by itself can do it, its not a bad feature but $50 for it is a scam
Haha so true, seems like a gimmicky way to earn money off idiots to make up some covid debt.
iZotope's own Neutron has dynamic EQ that does this and I assume that's what this feature uses under the hood. The "value add" of this unmasking feature is that it picks the frequencies for you.
Please don't copy Waves business model. I hate the way they sell their products and I have stopped buying their products entirely!! I love your plugins iZotope so please don't do bad business decisions like this one...
Wow an incremental update for $50, for a feature that should have been there already. For what these plugins cost this should have been free, Incredible! No Thanks!
Wow, I don't think I've ever actually seen such a poorly received product launch. READ YOUR COMMENTS IZOTOPE, YOU'VE DISGUSTED AND INSULTED YOUR CUSTOMERS! Seriously bad move...
I'm don't get the impression that this is worth paying for.
I think the visual thing with colors affects what we think of the productions. I listened without looking at the screen on the 2nd before and after and found no noticeable difference. Very similar to what Glenn Fricker did in his "Pro-Tools is Better Than Reaper" video.
Why would they make this $50 to upgrade
I was comforted by comments from several other people who also couldn't tell any difference between Before and After. Maybe a case of the Emperor's new clothes.
Cannot hear any difference.
Listen to the low end of the vocal, you´ll perceive it as the vocals sounding more full. I´m not sure it´s better though, and it´s also something I would probably have catered for in the mix/production if I thought it was a problem
Listen to your customers iZotope 👇🏾
Okay so this will help cut down on time masking and unmasking but i wanna know the difference cost. Respectfully, i wouldnt pay more than 30 to upgrade my standard
£42/$54.05 to upgrade on Plugin Boutique.
@@battleofwills7189 I can get it at 49$.. Honestly, I think its a bit too much as the new features are very limited.
@@casperstergaard8781 Yes, it should be a free upgrade.
Wooow it's cool. By the way you can achieve the same result with "Trackspacer"
Izotope is usually great at honoring their customers. Hopefully the comments section will provide valuable feedback for them so they stay on track. #DontDoItAgain #FreeFirmwareUpdate
lol i literally bought nectar 3 last week now theres nectar 3 plus and its a "completely different plugin" so i have to spend another $50 if i want to upgrade
Update: I checked my plugin portal and It now says I have Nectar 3 Plus. I'm guessing because I recently bought Nectar 3 they decided to be nice and give me the upgrade. Good Job Izotope
@@prod.4fro693 I also bought "Standard" about 5 weeks before this video launched, and didn't get it, so consider yourself lucky.
not a troll: I cannot hear any difference between before/after - could someone please point me into a direction as to what to listen for that changed here? I replayed that on NFMs and also very good cans - but I just can't make out any difference whatsoever..
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS JUST TELLING MYSELF
Is this a super late April 1st prank or what?
I already have Nectar 3 so does that mean I can get Nectar 3 plus for free?
No respect for loyal customers haha im done paying to upgrade my ozone, nectar, vocalsynth, insight, and rx every year for a while. At least fabfilters plugins get cheaper when you have more. These are like wow special upgrade for only 299 and then come out with one new feature for another 50 bucks wat da fack izotope
Gotta wait couple of years so it's 10 Eur, like with other Izotope products.
no
This is just ridiculous. I own Production suite 3 and this should just be included as an update to Nectar 3 because its not like its a new version.
$50 for something that should be a free update? I'm good
If you have nectar advanced 3 it is a free update
@@bg3nius That is incorrect. There is no Nectar "advanced", only Elements and Standard, and now Plus. also it is not free for anyone unless they made their purchase "recently". how recently, they don't actually say, but I purchased "Standard" 5 weeks before this video launched, and they still want to squeeze me for more money (I also own nearly every other product they make, including both Ozone and Neutron - "Advanced"...)
also, if you read basically any of the other comments, you'd see that's all anyone is talking about and all are pretty insulted and shocked.
Whats the difference between nectar plus and nectar advanced
This is a bloody insult that u want us to pay for what is essentially a patch with some added features and even more of an insult the upgrade cost is the same for those that own elements as us with the standard version. Now.... I have been buying iZotope products since Ozone 4 and today u have lost lots of respect from me and no doubt countless others, iZotope is no longer a professionals choice for me, it will be a DESPARATE choice.... peace..
exactly!
Honestly, I can't hear any difference.
Maybe when this update is free I might hear difference.
All the comments of people complaining that this wasn't a free update, but I don't hear the difference.
I would pay about 20$ for this update... Maximum!
Could not hear any difference in the video example.
I rather stick to Nectar 3 MINUS than paying for a minor update....bad move, iZotope 👎🏻
very bad move!
$49 upgrade fee and barely any mention for current users? I didn't even get an email. Are Izotope that ashamed of charging current users for this? This should be a free update for current users. Its not like there have been many updates or patches since it launched. Wont be "upgrading' myself. Sorry but this stinks.
That's PRECIESELY why didnt get an email. You would take it as an insult. Which it is.
This new function can be really dangerous in my opinion. I think you could easily ruin a good mix in matter of seconds.
money grubby
update the one i just purchased yesterday
got your little package deal i sure hope you just add it
Has anyone compared this to Waves Factory plugin that does basically the same?
I’ve been doing this for years manually and they keep topping everyone in the game easily
just wanted to say you can't hear it on the video but my buddy bought the pluckin and let me listen to it working and I was amazed! at the difference!! the pluckin is worth getting
Keep on pluckin'.
I bought nectar and when I run it in studio it pans my audio hard left. help?
You guys definitely dropped the ball with this one. This should absolutely be a free update for current users. Barely anything note worthy at all was even added in this "new" version. Really disappointed iZotope.
good thing fl studio comes with a free patcher preset tool that does dynamic unmasking for you.
I love iZotope products, but it's really frustrating/off putting to keep paying for *slight* upgrades. This needs to be a free upgrade
You could unmask Vocals also with Neutron 3 I guess
The thing about sidechaining it is I don’t have the track outs most of the time just the full beat, does it work if you sidechain the beat to it?
Lol, so they basically just fixed the bugs of the plugin and called it with a new name... This definitely should be free for nectar 3 owners, as this is what the plugin should've been in the first place...
make this update more cheaper or free, for loyal brand users
Before and after has no difference.
My speakers are Vanatoo T0s and I didn't hear any difference either
The audio in this video has been S Q U A S H ED to hell. Bring it down, we're producers, we can raise the volume.
That anyone can do with dynamic eq .not gonna throw away my dollar for that ordinary upgrade
how do you use this unmask feature in neutron advanced ?????
I can hardly hear shit... Are my ears broken, it's SUPER subtle and I can't really tell in a blind test o.o
I have a problem. I already own Nectar 3 and when I try to use Nectar 3 Plus trial to test it out it doesn't pop up anywhere? Please help?
Never going to login again to see offers! swindlers!
yup!
Is it just pure irony that the vocal in this video sounds horrific?
So 2 months has passed since the upload of this video. After so many negative comments, did iZotope change their mind? Is the upgrade still not free?
(I purchased nectar 3 couple months ago, which was part of the tonal balance control bundle, and finally will have time to mix my songs next month. So haven’t checked myself )
This is something. Love it 😘
Well maybe my ears are going but I couldn't hear the change at all.
I don't hear the difference
I want the update... but I don’t feel it’s worth the money... still a big fan
Upgrade also 199$ ??
So we paying for a updated relay? Wow. And U kno trackspacer do the same thing.i will set this one out and wait on nectar 4
Honestly speaking, it's a useless update to pay. When you update your software, it should have new features that will over power the previous software. If this is a free update it's worth it. But buying this for just masking or unmasking, nope. Spend your money wisely guys, this is clearly a trap.
Hey, does anyone know if you can do this with Ableton? I know I have to do an annoying side chain / dynamic eq / masking workaround with Neutron 3. Hoping someone has an idea about this? Perhaps the Izotope people can weigh in?
What a slimy cash grab! 👎
worst plugin demo ever, not only couldn't hear any difference but also in the sidechain section, it didn't even demoed a non-vocal part to show how it only affects when the vocal is present.
but I really loved the dynamic & Sidechain function update itself.
maybe its youtubes fault but i cant tell the difference at all.
Theres no difference?
Audio processing tech is so dope these days. All these important tasks that had 2 be manually done b4 are simply automated , even if not perfectly its way better to have a starting point than manually automating eq 2handle masking , constant AB n tweaking etc. Good starting points n probably at times better than what someone could do by ear. Great time 2 b alive lol
Hurry up guys the "LOYALTY" offer of $49 won't last much, the actual upgrade price is $79.... smh
any1 else who doesnt have perfect pitch and can hear any difference at all? i feel this is the type of thing when you tune your guitar but its 1 or 2 cents higher or lower. its not noticable for any normal individual
This plugin won’t work for me 😡
I agree. As a long-term loyal customer with many iZ products this seems like out of character gouging...
I am in a producers group, about 23 man. , and we all use Izotope plugins. And now paying for this. IZOTOPE YOU HAVE JUST LOOSE 23 CUSTUMERS
59$ for a one-feature update ?? And you call this a (temporary) loyalty offer ? You're incredibly out of touch !
Not paying a penny for that simple feature which anyway could be done easily without.. Why some people upgraded fir free but some are charged?
Wow ❤️❤️
Im excited
Unmasking seems like a great feature ! Unmasking can be used only when engaging side chains & playing other tracks.I guess I need to look into a tutorial of the unmasking.Thanks for the video.
100% should have been a free update but whatever I'm gonna pay them lol they save me so much time
I honestly preferred the "before" mix in every example. Several times through with eyes closed. The vocal sits better *inside* the music instead of on top of. Not saying that the feature doesn't have a use, but that example didn't flatter it.
This should be a free upgrade for Nectar 3 Standard owners. Come on iZotope. Charging $80 for this is a disgrace.
Definitely should have been a freebie to current owner and/or been included in original release. I whinged about it and got a 30$ discount which was helpful but frankly, after trying it out, doesn't do much that I couldn't already do with FAB Filters. Also, the 'listening' done by the software is only for 12 odd bars and it may suit that section of music conflicts, but what about other sections where there are different dynamics. You'd have to place those vocal on a new channel with N3+ on it and do another assessment. Not impressed at all and not happy with doling out money for it in the first place...sucked in I think.
Unforgivably greedy. My (and obviously many others) image of your entire brand just took a dramatic dive... Hope it was worth the 💲💲💲
🤯🤯🤯🤯
I’m glad I read these comments …not a way to treat loyal customers.👎
Should be a an update this is bs!
Basically track spacer but better lol
this is a total scam from izotope... i payed the full price for nectar 3 and now they want me to buy the plugin again for usable pitch detection and relay plugin. wtf atleast fix the problems in nectar 3, such awful company i will never reccommend izotope to anybody
Crap update
before = after
Before and after sound exactly the same. Just graphics to fool the eye.
20 bucks per month??? The world is going crazy lolll
Can't believe you guys are charging extra for this..i guess you started caring more about money than loyal and new customers.
Bruh it sounds the same.
Money grab