Can Romance Language People Understand Old Latin Word?(Brazil,Argentina,Mexico,Spain,Italy,France)
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Today Romance Language girl Trying to understand old latin!
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As a native speaker of Portuguese in Brazil , I can only understand some Latin words that are similar to Portuguese. The sentences are, for the most part, unintelligible without having previously studied the Latin language.
In Brazilian Portuguese:
- “Lumen” is translated as “luz”. But "luz" comes from the Latin “lux”. However there are words like “luminoso/luminosa” (luminous) which comes from Latin “lumen”. Furthermore, “lúmem”, plural “lúmens”, is the name given to a unit of measurement of luminous flux.
- "Expellere" is translated as "expelir", which means "to expel". "Expulsar" also exists in Portuguese and has the same root and basically the same meaning despite sometimes being used in different contexts.
- "Amare" is translated as "amar", which means "to love".
- "Anima" could be translated in several ways as it is the root of several words in Portuguese. "alma" (ghost/spirit/essence/soul), "ânimo" (cheer/optimism/encouragement), "animar" (to animate/to move/make it breathe, make it alive), "animal" (animal 🙈), "animação" (animation, anime). Also there are other words with different roots but with the same Latin meaning like "fôlego" (breath), respirar/expirar (to breath) and vida (life/living being).
- "Veni, vidi, vici" is a Latin expression known in Portuguese and is translated as "vim, vi e venci" (I came, I saw and I won).
- "Carpem diem" is also a known Latin expression in Portuguese. "Carpe diem" is part of the Latin phrase "carpe diem quam minimum credula postero", literally "seize the day and trust as little as possible in tomorrow", taken from one of Horace's Odes (65 BC - 8 BC). It is translated as "Aproveite o dia" (take advantage of the day/seize the day/enjoy the day/pluck the day), "Aproveite o momento" (take advantage of the moment), curta o momento (enjoy the moment), "colha o dia" (to weed the day, which is the literal translation. Weed here means to remove wild plants from a place where they are not wanted), etc. Although no one translates it this way, it could also be literally translated as "carpe o dia" since "carpe" became the verb "carpir" (to hoe/to weed) in Portuguese. "Diem" is translated as "day". "Carpem diem", in the original context, which was the period of decline of the Roman Empire, meant taking advantage of what is good in every moment because tomorrow is uncertain. But nowadays it has become a pop culture phrase and is used only in the sense of living happily and carefree.
- “Cogito, ergo sum” is also a Latin expression known in Portuguese. It is translated as "penso, logo existo" (I think, therefore I exist) or "Penso, logo sou" ("I think, therefore I am"). We translate “cogito” as “penso”, which means “I think”, but in Portuguese there is also the verb “cogitar”, which basically means “to think” and which comes from the Latin “cogĭto”. The verb "sou" comes from Latim "sum". "Cogito, ergo sum" is a phrase authored by the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes (1596-1650) and expresses the idea that the ability to think is proof of our existence.
- "Vice versa" is translated as "Vice-versa" 😁in Portuguese and means "reverse" or with the order changed.
"Cogito, logo sou" poderia, facilmente, ser a tradução também. É engraçado que quanto mais estudo o latim, mais sei do português. Acho que se todas no vídeo fossem fluente em latim, poderiam conversar entre si tranquilamente usando suas línguas nativas. Muito doido pensar nisso
@@GomesMaViThat's right! I just wasn't able to find the cognate counterpart of “ergo” in Portuguese.
Tudo bem, mas é 'aproveita', e não 'aproveite'... Faz-se mister conjugar os verbos com correcção.
@@joaodavid2001 as frases são imperativas afirmativas. Então o correto é "aproveite" e não "aproveita".
Depende do sujeito. Caso seja “você” (o comentário foi feito por um brasileiro, portanto, preferiu-se por usá-lo), usa-se “aproveite”. “Aproveita” seria a forma correta caso o sujeito fosse “tu”.
Latin - French 🙄
Amare -> amour ;
Anima -> âme ; you find the latin root in the verb "animer" something that moves by itself.
Veni, vidi, vici -> Venu, vu, vaincu. je suis venu, j'ai vu, j'ai vaincu. it's basically one of the first things you learn in history classes because it is said by Caesar.
Carpe diem -> cueillir le jour ; carpe is used in medical stuffs about the hand "canal carpien".
Cogito ergo sum -> je pense donc je suis ; It's literally said by a french philosopher, Descartes.
Amor is latin for amour in french
Amare is the VERB in Latin.
@@rogeriopenna9014 - amare = infinitive // in dictionary you look for 1st person singular present - amo // amor in latin also means the passive voice - "i am loved"
@@rogeriopenna9014 I was aware of that, the word amour it's just more impactful than the verb aimer for the average non french speaker...
Also the verb "cogiter" exists in french.
@@ziedRegaieg I bet all of those words exist in all languages, it's mostly a matter of how often and how they are used.
Sometimes usage changed to similar but not equal meaning to Latin.
Like iacta in alea iacta est. It means to throw. But the word survived as jatear (to jet) in Portuguese and probably something very similar in Italian, French and Spanish.
I loved this video, it would be so cool if you guys find a Romanian person too
Deve ser complicado encontrar alguém da Romênia na Coréia, recentemente que conseguiram alguém de Portugal...
I second that!
@@d.magalhaes922
Están en Corea? Interesante, no sabía eso. Pensé que sería en Estados Unidos quizás
@@LCdic09North Korea
@@d.magalhaes922Não foi recente; a Ana já apareceu muitas vezes e ultimamente até aparece menos.
Funny the french girl says that maybe she had heard "Cogito Ergo Sum" since it was Decartés who say that.
Yes, as a French I was a bit embarassed for her... 😁
She's not very educated she seems so lost lol as a French speaker although not French i got everything right
@@rashadidani French aren't educated anymore, we have a huge issue when it comes to education nowadays! I can remember even 20years ago it was like "a shame" to be good at school... I wish I grown up in another country, I would not have to work that hard now ^^
Probably used to the French translation of it.
It is Descartes, by the way.
The French participant did not reckoned the famous quote from Descartes 😮😮😮
She also has her flag backward
Yeah I wasn't impressed either when none of them knew that "Veni, Vidi, Vici" is a famous quote by Julius Caesar.
@@Duke_of_Lorrainelol she said she doesn’t even use her French anymore so this makes sense.
She doesn’t seem very bright…
@@ericsyd 😮
Carpe Diem in portuguese would be something like "Aproveite o dia", which means "Seize the day". "Diem" is "Dia", but "Carpe" would be "Aproveite", which is kind different from the latin word
Achei que tivesse relação com o verbo carpir haha
@@leoni7649 tô feliz que alguém a mais percebeu hahaha
Eu pensei que fosse carpa com alguma coisa sobre dia
Ué! Aprendi que Carpe vem de Carpir. Carpir os frutos do dia, colher os frutos do dia! Aproveitar! 😄
@melancolique6840 carpir pode ser lamento, mas nesse caso significa algo como "colher". colha o dia, ou seja, tire proveito do dia.
Damn, the brazilian girl has so much natural presence.
natural presence? she is so ridiculuse
Yeah it can be annoying for some cultures, but we are used to it
lol
She is tiring to me
@@philippedombinou8589 Exactly. I'm Brazilian and I think she's fuc*ing annoying. She interrupts everyone and yells all the time like she wants to stand out. If I was there I probably would tell her to shut the fu*k up 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Has the French girl never heard of the well-known French philosopher Descartes with his very famous phrase: cogito ergo sum?
Illiteracy
Why the French girl don’t know the French words ? I mean come on : amour, âme, j’ai vaincu
The lack of general culture over the last 20 years in french school is dramatic...
@@bdolce4761 You mean lake Annecy lasted 20 years??
@@bdolce4761 it s not even lack of culture , she said she haven t spoke in a long time
@@Lostouille How is that related? The problem is she lacks of knowledge.
She really annoyed me
I'm Romanian and you didn't have anyone to represent our language in the video, so are are my guesses:
1. lumin - light (Ro: lumină)
2. expellere - to expel (Ro: a expulza, but it is not very used)
3. amare - to love (Ro: the verb is of slavic origin, "a iubi", but we have the "amor" meaning love as a noun). Also "amare" in Romanian actually means bitter lol but I don't think it had that meaning in Latin.
4. anima - soul, or heart (Ro: inimă=heart)
5. veni, vedi, vici - came, saw, won (Ro: a veni=to come, a vedea=to see, a învinge=to win)
6. carpe diem - I know from school it means ”seize the day” but otherwise I wouldn't understand "carpe". (Ro: zi=day; we translate "carpe diem" as "trăiește clipa”=live in the moment)
7. cogito ergo sum - I think, therefore I am (Ro: cuget, deci exist; "sum" can aslo translate as "sunt") I also know this one from school but it's easy to understand anyway.
8. vice versa - in reverse, the other way around. In Romanian we use the exact same words as in Latin.
In Romania it's compulsory to study basic Latin for one year in 7th or 8th grade, then in high school it's only taught in the "humanistic" programs. Personally I had to study it for all 4 years of high school and it was difficult but most of us didn't take it very seriously so we don't remember much grammar, only random words. So a similar experience to the Italian girl in the video.
With the Romanian word "amare" being bitter, it actually sounds like Spanish "amargo". I have no clue if in the rest of Romance languages are similar or the same, but could only make that connection because of the context of you translating this word.
Also, I am curious about the Romanian language, I've seen some videos comparing Romanian with other Romance languages and it seems as if Italian is the closest? Is that true? If you hear/read Italian could you understand the context of something easily?
Because I definitely know that with Spanish there is not much similarity in written form mainly.
And I find quite funny that the word "vice versa" is the same in all languages as you confirm that in Romanian you don't change/convert it.
I feel like Laura should have done the whole thing in Catalan, since she’s the only one who speaks it there and we already got 2 other people who spoke Spanish. And in Catalan there are some interesting words she didn’t say like “Llum” for “Luminus”, or “Llumí” which is also related to light, since it means “match” as the stick you light up, which in Spanish is “cerilla”, definitely not similar. Then “Expellere” in Catalan you can say “Expel·lir”. For “Amare” it’s “Estimar” which is not that similar. Then “ànima” she did say. For “Veni, Vidi, Vici” it is “Vaig vindre, vaig veure, vaig guanyar”. And then the following sentences we all just kind of say the sentence in Latin as well. So I feel like it would have been a cool insight, for sure! And linguistically speaking it’s an occitano/gallo-romance language, including french and then Italian, so those two languages are probably the closest ones linguistically speaking…
Estimar in Portuguese is "to give value" or "to guess how much". Your self worth is "auto estima".
@@rogercruz1547 Yeah, in Spanish you can use “estimar” for the things you said too! But not to refer to the verb “to love”. Even though I’m a native speaker of both Spanish and Catalan I had never thought about those two words being the same but having different meanings, it just never crossed my mind 😂
anima and expeler
only 9 million speak catalan
@@delmo3580 The video is about romance languages, and Catalan is the 6th most spoken romance language, and the most spoken one on a non-national level. 9 million is not that little of a number if we remember it’s practically double the number of speakers Norwegian has. And it’s spoken by more people than at least half the languages spoken in Europe.
in spain we still use the word "ergo" (therefore), but it's more formal-ish
También la usamos en Hispanoamérica con el mismo significado y la misma connotación formal, aunque no es extraño usarla en conversaciones coloquiales también.
hmm is "ergonomia" the "act of building something focused on its consequence"?
we use "logo" even though "logos" is something else in latin (propably replaced the word as a joke at first but caught on)
in english too
In french too it can be used.
In colloquial therms. We only used in Oral exams🤣🤣
Latin - Portuguese:
Lumin -> Luz
Expellere -> Expulsar
Amare -> Amar
Anima -> Alma
Veni, Vidi, Vici -> Vim, Vi, Venci
Carpe diem -> Aproveite o dia
Cogito ergo sum -> Penso, logo existo
Vice Versa -> Vice-versa
"Lumin" was not spelled correctly, it should be "lumen". The other root "lux, lucis" you still find in the female name "Lucie" or "Lucy" or "Lucia".
CARA A JÚLIA VIROU PROFISSIONAL EM SE DESTACAR! BOA GAROTA!
Acho ela bem irritante às vezes. Gostava mais da Ana.
@@littleturnip99 Virou competição?
@@littleturnip99 Você que é chato mesmo
@@littleturnip99 as duas são ótimas e representam muito bem o Brasil.
Nem todo mundo tem que ser igual, ela tem o seu próprio jeito de ser.@@littleturnip99
So sorry guys, if I'm out of the topic. But, my eyes couldn't stop watching Julia -Brazil. Bless you always and the rest of the ladies. Support you guys all the time. 🙏✌️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
As an American, I think the Brazilian language is the most beautiful in the world because I don't know if they are speaking or singing, it's very beautiful, I'm trying very hard to learn
It’s funny hearing you say that as an American because it reminds me of that clip of the girl saying ‘why can’t everyone speak American’
@@DannyPotato Since she didnt say "portoguese" im confident that she, in fact, thinks we are currently writing in American
Já se passaram 9 meses, como está seu português?
Obrigado
Also, "Cogitare" in Latin means "to think". It originated "cogitar" in Portuguese, but with the meaning of "to suppose" to describe hypothetical situations.
And there is cogiter, in french. It means also means to think.
In Portuguese it can be also used as "consider", como em "eu cogitei te chamar" that would be translated as "i considered calling you"
The mexican girl was embarrased because the word sounds similar to "coger", which in Spain *only* has the original meaning of "take, fetch" but somehow in The Americas it got the meaning of "to fuck", and we Spaniards don't know why.
@@BlackHoleSpain bc a person is taking someone’s flower. Pretty straightforward unfortunately xD
In italian we have a similar word: “Escogitare” that means “to think of a solution”
If anyone is curious about which modern Spanish or Portuguese word that derived from Latin carpe (carpere), it’s “carpir”, but carpir doesn’t have the meaning of “enjoy” anymore
I'm brazilian, and I never heard or read the word "carpir", but I know "caipira" and specially "caipirinha".
@@PedroLCogoy carpir de "carpir a grama". Hoje carpir tem o mesmo sentido de capinar
I thought it'll be something more like capturar (capture). So I thought carpe diem was captura el día (capture the day or seize the day).
@@PedroLCogoyCarpir é comumente usado no interior, assim como existe o capim.
Ex: vai carpir um lote, guri!
In Spanish the word is carpir, (check DLE dictionary) Del lat. carpĕre 'arrancar', 'herir, maltratar'. But it isn't very frequent. BTW the meaning of carpĕre in Latin isn't "enjoy", in the expresion "carpe diem" (enjoy the present) carpere changes its meaning.
Yeah, so, basically, the translation for veni vidi vici in French is : "je suis venu, j'ai vu, j'ai vaincu"
Not : je suis venu, j'ai vu, j'ai **gagné**
The french girl here said that it was "J'ai gagné", I won.
But this is not the right word
Vaincu is the conjugation of the word "vaincre" which is not that far from the Latin "vincere"
"Gagner" generally means a gain, a profit, the acquisition of something
"vaincre" is more for military stuff, like you win a battle by fighting.
They definitely need to get a better French girl. She knew just about nothing! Someone with a stronger vocabulary would have been able to connect the etymologies easily.
@@RobbieStacks90 exactly...
@@RobbieStacks90 Right?! She didn’t seem to be aware of 'cogiter' either.
Sooo happy to notice that I am not the only one thinking the french girl was not very well chosen for this exercise xD
Amare... aimer...
Cogito...cogiter
Come on gurl, french is also sooo similar to latin 😢
Elle est vraiment pas terrible la jeune femme. C’est clair qu’elle est plus Anglophone d’origine française.
The Brazillian and the Mexican girls are pretty, smart and fun.
La mexicana no
@@daureenchavarriadiaz4854 a Mexicana sim
@@augustocaieSim meus ovos, não captou nenhuma frase, sendo que eu vivo no Chile e aqui como na Argentina e Espanha, também no México se diz Carpe Diem, a palavra "Ánima" aqui também significa alma e nenhuma sabia, na frase "cogito ergo sum ela pensou que tinha a ver com a palavra "coger" que significa transar, mas na verdade em espanhol também se diz "cogitar" e "ergo" que significa "logo" ou "por tanto", no final ela não sabia nada, a argentina e espanhola sabiam mais. Mas no geral o vocabulario dessas garotas fraquíssimos.
@@augustocaie no
@@charliebasualto te parece que eu eu ligo ?
Mexican and Brazilian girls always have this energy ❤
Latim/Portuguese = cogito, ergo sum = Penso, logo existo/penso, logo sou. Cogito from VERB in portuguese COGITAR.
Bro você tem que explicar o que signfica 'Cogitar' em português, que é o mesmo que 'Questionar' e ninguém questionar sem Pensar, portanto são as mesmas coisas.
Oh come on Ambre ! The usual translation of "Veni, vidi, vici" in French is "(je suis) venu, (j'ai) vu, (j'ai) vaincu". It's similar.
C'est dans tous les Astérix ! 😉
Hahahahaha righhhhht jsuis trop bête 😭😭😭😭
Elle est trop naze...
On dirait que l'éducation nationale n'est plus ce qu'elle était! Veni vedi vici c'est un peu la base non....
@@ren2704 je te jure, elle est nulle lol 🤣🤦🏼♂
On devrait même dire, "je vins, je vis, je vainquis" pour s'approcher des autres traductions.
I like the French girl, but she embarass me a lot. We have words similar to the other romance languages even though they're not really used anymore and considered old fashionned. But come on "Amare" is "Aimer" and we have the word "Cogiter" in French. Also "Cogito ergo sum" is citation of René Descartes
Same
Same with veni, vidi, vici. In french it is "je suis venu, j'au vu et j'ai vaincu". And a lot of other words she missed or just didn't know.
So yeah, she doesn't represent us really well 😅.
@@mrv.5114 Yep I know. But it’s still not quite the same if someone don’t speak French he can’t figure out veni, vidi, vici is je suis venu, j’ai vu, j’ai vaincu because first of all French doesn’t make sense when you don’t put the subject before the verb unlike Spanish or Italian.
yes and also she said gagné but she could have said vaincu for vici
@@maximeguesse4909 You see?! That’s what I meant. She should have said at least both.
"Ánima" still exists in Spanish too, along with "alma" but is not widely used anymore. "Ánima" is more used to mean "ghost" (of dead people) than "soul" ("alma", which includes both alive and dead people). It appears tough in a lot of Spanish literature of the XIX century. I recommend very much the short Spanish gothic tale "El monte de las ánimas" by Gustavo Adolfo Bécquer (1836-1870), usually translated to English as "The mount of the souls" , "Mountain of souls" or even as "The spirits' mountain".
The Latins with "ANIMA" meant things that could move and interact, such as men and ANIMALS
@@erosgritti5171 Do you mean "Latinos" or "Latin language"? In any case you are right, I shuold have mentioned that it also applies for animals and other specific cases, not only people (both in Latin America and in Spain). I just went for the most common case to make things simpler. Thank you.
I still say ánimas, so it's not that's is not widely used, a lot of people say it. I can say that one, like I say alma, or espíritu or whatever. But i also was thinking about Bécquer when they said that word, that was a good example.
@@erosgritti5171But one thing is the verb animar (yo animo, tú animas, él/ella anima...), and a different thing is the word ánima, that i think it's the meaning and word we talk about here.
Yeah.... It's like to say "asir", no one uses that...
In Latin, light can be either "lūmen" or "lux". Words in Spanish derived from "lūmen" are for example "luminoso" and "iluminar". The Spanish word for light "luz" as well as the Italian "luce" stem from "lux".
También derivara alumbrar?
Finally someone used macrons. Awesome
Lumbre es fuego.
Learning Latin is in my bucket list. Our mother language. I love it!
I want to learn latin too ! But i don't where I can find some online Latin lessons !
Just search in RUclips Latin is teached in many idioms half all idioms on the world as you want....
i like that Latin sounds closer to Portuguese than French xD
French is the most different latin language...the hardest one to understand amongst the others.
French is the most distant among the latin languages family. I know cause I speak spanish, french and a little portuguese and french is the weirdest lol
Actually French sounds close to Latin depending on the words we use. Older the word is, closer to Latin it is. But in France those words are considered old fashionned like "cogiter".
@@matiasreinoso1723 In terms of grammar, structure, vocabulary, French is not different at all. Only the phonology is different, so it SOUNDS different, but it's not. French and Italian are closer than Spanish and Italian for exemple.
@@henry247 french could be the most germanic language among the romance languages, it got more influnced by germanic languages than other romance languages
there should’ve been a romanian!! they are part of the romance languages too!!
No one understands Romanian, they sound Slavic
@@reaux3921same goes with french
@@reaux3921why are you commenting on every single comment about romanian they got 3 people that speak spanish and no romanians
you need to remember this is in Korea, its not like theyre in europe and can easily find a romanian walking down the street
@@reaux3921 They're the most Latin Country in world...
Awwww !! Mexico and Brazil 😍
Spanish:
Lumin -> Luz
Expellere -> Expulsar
Amare -> Amar
Anima -> Ánima or Alma
Veni, vidi, vici -> Vine, vi, vencí (it actually sounds good)
Carpe diem -> Aprovecha el día
Cogito ergo sum -> Pienso, luego existo. Or more similar: Pienso, ergo soy.
Vice versa -> Viceversa
Expellere -> Expeler o expulsar.
@@iveseenyourrepulsionitlook534 Sí, o eyectar
"Cogito Ergo Sum" is actually a translation of the original French by Descartes. He first wrote "Je pense donc je suis" and only translated it to latin afterwards.
Latin ---> italian
Lumin ---> luce
Expellere ---> espellere
Amare ---> amare
Anima ---> anima
Veni vidi vici ---> venni vidi vinsi
Carpe diem ---> cogli l'attimo
Cogito Ergo Sum ---> penso quindi sono
Vice versa ---> vice versa
This is kinda funny cause it is like a living example of the evolution of the "Dialect continuum", the languages developed furthest from the italian peninsula are very different from latin and the closest ones (like catalan or italian itself) are the most similar ones. The french case is especially interesting since they are the latins more mixed with germanic people.
6:21 JAJAJAJAJA la cara de la mexicana cuando la brasileña decía "cogito"
Yo también tendría problemas para aguantar la risa
In Spain is not a problem, because "coger" here means only "agarrar". Here doesn't have the sexual meaning that I know it has in Latin America. I don't really know why or when it adquired that meaning in Iberoamérica.
Having said that, the truth is "cogito" is "una palabra esdrújula", that means it's tonic syllabe is the third counting from the end of the word, so it's not "cogito", but "cógito" (COgito)
Cogito ergo sum => Pienso, luego existo
(Descartes)
XDD
@@migteleco I've learned a a new world in Spanish: esdrújula. Means something entirely different in Portuguese though
@@hqsmutantes6261 A new ¿world? you mean "word" I guess 😅
What does it mean "esdrújula" in Portuguese then? 🤔
(Fun fact: "esdrújula" is itself una palabra esdrújula, and that's why is accented)
@@migteleco basicaly its something really weird
old latin is a specific developmental stage of latin (before 75 BC) that precedes classical latin and it's different. i'm not a linguist and cannot say about all the examples shown but veni, vidi, vici and carpe diem are in classical latin aka the one that is studied the most in schools. also cogito ergo sum is from the 1600 by DesCartes
There are two words for light in Latin: lúmen and lúx. Italian and Spanish luz and luce both come from lúx
But adjectives like "luminoso" come from "lumen".
Watching these videos is like watching a survival video where they re-invent the wheel. They discuss in everyday terms and with very simple, relatable ideas, what everybody could find out within a fraction of a second with a simple google research hahaha - the differences and relations between latin languages and Latin itself in particular have been studied for literally hundreds of years now, but somehow its still new and relatable how everyone says the word "apple" in their languages, and everybody is like "oh really" and "ah" ;)
4:03 would be « je suis venu, j’ai vu, j’ai vaincu » in French.
To win is indeed « gagner » but to conquer would be « vaincre »
Not exactly. Conquer means firtstly "conquérir", which can be related to people but more to the land or a country. "Vaincre" is mainly (excuse my poor english) related to an opponent and firtstly in War. Precisely like Jules César did. In French we could Say: Jules César a conquis la Gaule et il a vaincu les gaulois.
Here before the brazilians invade the comment section
Vocês quando forem falar de língua latinas, falem suas línguas de origem latina respectivamente, ficaria mais interessante 😂😂😂
Estoy de acuerdo. Por qué están todas hablando en inglés si todas tienen como lengua materna una lengua romance?
Pô mas aí elas nao iriam se entender, carai. A intenção é ser uma conversa
@@jubasss essa é intensão sua desgraça! Ninguém entender nada!
@@jubasss Pode ser, mas é irônico que falando línguas de um origem comum tenham que recorrer a uma língua de outro grupo linguístico para se entenderem. O inglês definitivamente conquistou o mundo.
In Spanish from
"lumen", we have words like luminosidad and lumbre.
"Expellere" - expeler
"Amare" - Amar
"Anima" - Ánima (like a ghost, spirit)
"veni, vidi, vici" - vine, vi, vencí.
"Carpe diem" - Aprovecha el dia
"Cogito ergo sum" - pienso por tanto soy (existo).
"Vice versa" - viceversa
And from Latin evolved in Spanish to "luz".
También en el caso de las lámparas y focos los lúmenes.
3:40 Look at the Mexican's girl gesture when the Italian girl mentions her professor. LOL.
😂🤣
This girl is something else, I love her
Some of these can be directly translated to Spanish.
Latin:
Vini, Vidi, Vinci
Spanish:
"Vine, Vi, Venci"
Latin:
Carpe Diem
Spanish:
"Capta el Dia"
Some were direct translations like "anima". In Spanish can refer to a soul, but more often talking about a ghost. Its a very OLD use term though. Something a grandmother or priest would use (common phrase: "anima en pena"; means "suffering soul"). Today its more common to use "alma" for soul and fantasma for "ghost".
Its also the root of "animate" which in Spanish is usually a verb meaning to stay positive or become lively.
Cogito is the most difficult to translate because there's no modern direct word. Perhaps its the origin of the word "cogo" which means to grab, but could be used I suppose to say "Ya lo cogi" (I got it; understood it).
El verbo cogitar existía en castellano antiguo con el significado de reflexionar o meditar. Pero siguen existiendo palabras como: cogitabundo (muy pensativo); cogitativo (que tiene facultad de pensar); cogitación (acción y efecto de cogitar).
@@ivanmolero7829 cognitivo
Excellent! I don’t know where they find the participants
I like this because I’m learning all these Romance languages (French, Spanish, Italian) except for Portuguese. But even in my country Indonesia these Latin phrases are used a lot within academic contexts, so I’m kind of surprised that these ladies were not familiar with some of them. Among these languages, French is the language I’m most comfortable with, so:
0:51 I think it’s actually _lumen_ in Latin? Yes, it’s _lumière_ in French.
1:30 Ah _expellere_ is a weird conjugation to choose from in Latin, but yeah _espellere_ in Italian is the most similar while French _expulser_ is a bit farther.
2:30 Why didn’t you show their full reaction? Instead of _amare_ it would’ve been better to have _amo_ in Latin, as it is in its infinitive form would be _amare_ in Italian and _amar_ in Spanish and _aimer_ in French.
2:49 Yeah _anima_ in Latin is a bit tricky to guess because it’s _âme_ in French and _alma_ in Spanish, but in Italian they have both _alma_ and _anima_ with slightly different meanings.
3:49 Again “Veni vidi vici” is tricky to trace from French, but the French version would be something like “Je suis venu, j'ai vu, j'ai vaincu” which is a mouthful and not as easy as “Venni, vidi, vinsi” in Italian which is so much clearer.
4:48 I feel like _carpe diem_ is something that you would see on motivational posters in every school on the planet and is better to leave as is, it doesn’t need to be translated 😄
5:37 Well actually “Cogito ergo sum” in Latin came later, because the original version was “Je pense donc je suis” in French because it was first introduced by French philosopher René Descartes 😅
6:56 Latin _vice versa_ is the easiest because all the Romance languages use it in its original form.
'je suis' is similar to the Portuguese writing and pronunciation of Jesus.
In Brazil, in Brazilian Portuguese people speak 'Gêzuis' or 'Gêzûs'.
This sound and etc... like 'Je Sui'
'Je sui' is Freanch is like: I'am?
'Ego Sum', in Portuguese: Eu Sou ( I'Am )/ je sui; This is the mystical meaning of the name Jesus
@@yoannes6882 is not the same prononciation because the "e" is not "ê" but like the vowel in this english article : "th(e)" or this preposition : "(a)bout or this vowel in german "ö" , so it's the "schwa sound" and then the "s" at the end is silent : jö swi
@@yoannes6882É totalmente diferente. Em francês Je suis é tipo Jã suí, já Jesus é Jêsuis ou Jêsus
@@francaisavecrodrigue In Portuguese E and Ê is the same sound.
@@lilchoppa7833 Tem o som de 'E' cara, só colocar qualquer pessoa pronunciando. Pra mim continua tendo o som de E e não A ou Ã
In Spanish we also have ánima in the dictionary. Not only in Catalonian. It's basically a synonym of alma, soul. Although it's more used in poems rather than spoken, street language. Veni, vidi, vinci sounds perfectly fine in Spanish, I don't know why these girl say the contrary: vine, vi, vencí. The verbs are correct, they have meaning, and they are understandable, they have context, so I don't know why these girls jumped immediately to the conclusion that in Spanish doesn't sound correct. Cogito ergo sum, pienso luego soy. It's very easy. Oh man, maybe I'm over critical with them?
Por lo menos en Mex, la palabra Ánima se usa bastante aún, o quizá solo soy yo que hablo de una manera un tanto extraña.
anyone else realized the french girl had the french flag the wrong way or just me?
On a tous vu. Et on tous déçus d'elle...
@@Lostouille elle fait honte à la France et aux français. Quelle inculte
I speak only English, but guessed most of the early ones through my vague memory of French lessons. The "anima" one I know sort of is used in English sort of, but I am not really in that world, so I was unsure. The later ones are just well known among people trying to sound like sophisticated, so I didn't even have to guess.
You know many more words of Latin origin than you are aware of. A lot of English words have Latin roots - many came to English from Old French via the Normans. Try this for fun: take a paragraph from a book and look up the etymology of each word. You may be surprised.
4:07 NO, in French we would say "je suis VENU, j'ai VU et j'ai VAINCU" (VENIR= to come, VOIR= to see, VAINCRE= to defeat)
I like those comically large pins. Next time just have the guests put on face paint that indicates their country's flag, like in football matches.
please keep doing more romance languages related videos! it's so fun!
La Mexicana, Fransesa , Brasileña y Italiana son tan hermosas 😍😍
Esses videos viraram um hobbie, adoro assistir 😍
Carpe diem is usually used as is in Brazil. But you can translate it to "curta o momento" (enjoy the moment)
4:00 Veni, Vidi, Vici No French is not different: Je suis "VENU", j'ai "VU", j'ai "VAINCU". 😉
Essa "francesa" deve ter se acostumado a não pensar mais em francês... ela mesmo disse que não usa mais a língua
In Portuguese from Portugal, it would be "Vim", "Vi" and "Venci"
@@Luckyamor Really close.
To be fair, she mentionned that she's not used to speak french so often anymore 😉
@@Luckyamor It's exactly the same thing in Brazilian Portuguese.
"Vim, Vi, Venci."
😂 saco lo Mexicana con el Cogito, en México solemos tener palabras en doble sentido de manera sexual, entonces Cogito suena similar a una palabra que se usa para hacer el acto sexual, en el momento en que vi la cara que puso mi paisana fue como ohh tu también lo viste 😅 🇲🇽
En casi toda américa latina coger significa tener sexo, menos en Colombia.
Coito é a palavra certo? Acho que coito pode ter esse significado em todas as línguas do vídeo + o romeno.
@valerioluizfelipe entendi, tenho um pequeno contato com os falantes de diversas línguas e lembrei-me de uma situação, onde falantes do espanhol aqui da América Latina estavam rindo falando sobre isso. Conheço o verbo coger só não me liguei 😅🤣
@valerioluizfelipeNao seria "joder"?
@valerioluizfelipe No solo en español mexicano, en la mayoría de los países de latinoamérica tiene esa connotación, inclusive en Argentina, solo que la chica de Argentina no estableció la relación.
Guapa la mexicana 😍
I don't know why the french girl seemed so confused, most are close to french words.
In French it's :
- Veni : Venir
- Vidi : Vu
- Vici : Vaincu (and not gagner)
- Amar : Amour
- Anima : Ame
- And Cogito ergo sum is a famous phrase said by Descarte who's french. "Cogtar" is easy to understand (Cogiter), "ergo sum" much harder.
In Latin, the letter C prounces as K ^_^
"Cogito ergo sum" "je pense donc je suis" is a famous sentence from René Descartes, french philosopher, writter and scientist. It resumes his concept of the "cartesian doubt"
The trench girl has the flag upside down
But do you think it's easy to know the right direction when your flags are just made of colored stripes without any indication of direction? 😂😂😂
Imagine how difficult it must be for a Japanese person to find the right side of the Japanese flag.
And you wear your frenchcoat reversed, so...
In many country the wind decide the true way of the flag ,
In France the wine decide the true way of the flag
@@joselitodascandongas4821It is easy, because the colors go in order, just like the Italian or Mexican flag
For a native Brasilian portuguese speaker it was easy to understand Latin.
Latin - Portuguese:
Lumin = Luz (from lux), (we alseo have "Luminoso(a)" which came from lumin)
Expellere = Expelir / Expulsar
Amare = Amar
Anima = Alma / Animo (not used anymore in this meaning, now it is like "will", "inner energy mentally and spirutaly")
Veni, Vidi, Vici = Vim, Vi, Venci
Carpe diem = Aproveite o dia
Cogito ergo sum = Penso, logo existo | (cogito, logo sou)
Vice Versa = Vice-versa
3 native Spanish speakers but no Romanian again.. guys what's going on?
Yes absolutly useless
you need to remember this is in Korea, its not like theyre in europe and can easily find a romanian walking down the street
@@tavinhozys They might be threaded with superficial similarities is theory 2.......
Il Rumeno ha si delle basi Latine( era una lontana legione militare Romana), ma ha subito nel tempo una forte influenza slavica data la posizione geografica molto lontana da Roma. LA LINGUA PIU VICINA CHE POI E UNA DIRETTA EVOLUZIONE DELLA STESSA E' ovviamente L 'ITALIANO . poi dietro spagnolo, portoghese ecc, che hanno qualche parola simile all'italiano
The brazilian girl is lovely.
The French girl doesn't know the famous words of René Descartes?
Yeah. She is not obliged to study philosophy, or descartes' work.
I was a little devastated by this, however, if it was indeed Descartes who used the formula "cogito ergo sum", we especially know the formula translated into French "je pense donc je suis".
What saddened me is that our young compatriot does not see the connection between "vici" and "gagner", but she forgets that there is the verb "vaincre" in French which is used in the formula "je suis venu, j'ai vu, j'ai vaincu (veni, vidi, vici)".
It's also true that in France, we use the formula "carpe diem" more than its French translation "cueille le jour" which is nevertheless pretty.
@@nathalisilva9683 It's general culture, I'm not even from Europe and I know who said it and what it means...
I think this is rather sad. Poor Descartes!
Almost all french study philosophy@@nathalisilva9683
Actually in Italy we translate Carpe Diem: we say "Cogli l'attimo". Also, if you had to translate Veni Vidi Vici it would be "Venni Vidi Vinsi" so it's very similar. Italian is the closest to latin imo.
Tinha que dar um papel pra cada uma escrever sua resposta individualmente. Dessa forma elas não iriam ter influencia dos colegas ao lado do significado de cada palavra.
In Spanish, "alma" "anima", you can use both, but anima is more formal I would say, so usually you will hear "alma" instead of "anima".
About "lumen" "lux" in Latin, in Spanish you can say "luminoso" a place with a lot of light
They don't really say it in the video, but amare, is amar in Spanish.
cogito ergo sum, in Spanish would be, "pienso ergo existo", "ergo" it exist in Spanish too like a synonym of "luego" but it is very formal so you will hear for sure "pienso luego existo"
The Mexican girl when said cogito would have double meaning, is because "coger" "cogido" in Latin America have a sexual meaning, not is Spain cos is commonly used like "take" in English.
The Mexican girl is such a cutie.
Very lost
Fake eye color
@@gustavogoncalves3900hahah celoso
@@juanperex9458No it’s not, in my own life I can think of 20 Mexicans with blue eyes, and then there’s green and hazel, etc.
The Mexican is the most feminine and pretty, only the Brazilian girl can match
Lovely 😻🌹 video, in this week test theses beauties with Greek vocabulary, its gonna be magic video.
Koreans bros do the video with Greek now❤❤❤❤
la argentina estuvo pintada al óleo 😂😂
Bueno dijo lo de "carpe diem", que es re usado en nuestro lexico
@@marianomartinez3008 La última vez en la vida que escuché eso fue en las tiras Cris Morena 🤌🏻🤣
@@GessAttiEn mi facultad es super comun escucharlo (aclaro voy a la UNLZ)😂
1:27, in spanish we actually have the word expeler :)
I am sorry but the french girl seems not knowing her own language.
How can she do not see the connection between « amare » and « aimer » or « amour » ??
How can she not connect « lumen » with « lumière » or « lumineux » ??
How can she not connect the words « anima » or « alma » with « Âme » or « animé », they are clearly the same…
How can she not know the « veni, vedi, vici » sentence which is a very well known latin sentence, « venu, vu, vaincu »…. Once again very similar. I feel she had been asked to act as if french was nothing like the others, it is clearly not the case. It is more ignorance than anything else
She seem to not know the « cogito ergo sum» when it come from the french philosopher Descartes. the latin sentence is very famous. Also, we have the word « cogiter », which means thinking a lot.
3:07 *ALMA* is like this because of Hispano-Celtic languages, (1)they tend to change NM for L; and Gallaecian for Portuguese and Galician; and Celtiberian for Spanish (Castilian)/ loss of unstressed vowels in the middle:
_Anima -> Anma -> Alma_
i'll add all the things that weren't mentioned by the italian girl(i'm bad at remembering names the first time , sorry).
1) We still have the word Lume for Light like "Serata a lume di candela"=" evening date with the light of the candel" but it's rarely used. Edit: now that i think about it , we have a lot common words that use it as a prefix. Example : Luminoso="Bright/full of lights"; Illuminato=Enlighted
2) even tough in Italian Amare is Amare , so it's the same , i can understand why the french girl said sea because in italian sea=mare and Amare is A + mare. i don't how it is in french but i think it's similar
3) Veni,vidi,vici = Venire,Vedere,Vincere
4) The philosopher she was talking about is Cartesio (one of my favorites). Cogito means thinking but we still kinda have it in this form , for example like "Es*cogit*are" ="Thinking of something (like a plan)".The stars are just let it be more visble.
5) Vice versa i didn't even know it was latin , i thought it was Italian
Cartesio was "René Descartes" who was indeed a french philosopher. In Spanish we use his original name, though.
@@BlackHoleSpaini forgot to translate him
Another thing I noticed is that “I came I saw I conquered” is all pass tense. If you do the passato remoto of venire vedere and vincere it would be “venni, vidi, vinsi” which is almost identical.
amare- to love, and anima from what i have learned in school- mind, spirit. veni, vidi, vici- i came, i saw, i conquered. carpe diem- seize the day
In Italian we definitely translate carpe diem and we say “cogli l’attimo”
even though we have the verb "carpire": nowadays it has mainly a negative connotation.
Infatti non ho capito perché abbia detto che lo diciamo solo così quando in realtà, spesso lo traduciamo anche.
Sì ma è vero anche che spesso in italiano si conserva come latinismo, come ergo, extrema ratio ecc (usiamo gli equivalenti in italiano ma spesso in un contesto formale/lavorativo si tende ad usare il latinismo).
What do you mean by "Old Latin"?? Latin is Latin and by definition it is old. Not like Greek where you have the language spoken by Sofocles & Co. and the Greek spoken today.
I have notice that the french girl tend to say" oh we don't say that or it's different but when she heard the other said it ,she like " Oh yes,we have something similar like for "Amare " when the french version would be aimer while amour would be amore and " Veni vidi vici" would be "Je suis venu j'ai vu j'ai vaincu .So you can see some similarities with "venu et veni" and "vici and vaincu"
Le pire c'est Descartes le" je pense donc je suis" .... Cogito ergo sum (Cogito- Cogiter qu'elle n'a pas pu trouver)
She’s not very bright, I wonder how she got on the show 😂😂
I believe the French word relating to ‘vici’ in the quote “Veni, vidi, vici” is ‘vaincre’ which is related to the Latin word ‘vincere’ meaning ‘to conquer’ or ‘to defeat’ ?
The Brazilian woman seems like she has studied linguistics and is a bit more conceptually advanced.
Julia is really Brazilian? Her accent and fluency are perfect. WOW!
_\\\¡¡¡"Muy Divertido y Interesante Video (^ᴗ^) Me Encantó ver esa Diferencia de palabras en diferentes Idiomas que viene del Latín._
_Latin;_ _Spanish;_
_-Lumin_ _-Luz_
_-Expellere_ _-Expulsar_
_-Amare_ _-Amar_
_-Anima_ _-Alma_
_-Veni,vidi, vici_ _-Ven, vi, vencí_
_-Carpe Diem_ _-Capta el día_
_-Cogito Ergo Sum_ _-Piensa luego existo_
_-Vice versa_ _-Vice Versa_
_Gran y Excelente Video 😘 Saludos y Abrazos desde México 🌸 (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ🇲🇽🌷🏵️🌺🌹"!!!///_
I study Latin in University - it opens the doors to so many great things especially from the past.
I took it up as a hobby. Its interesting-its like i had to take a crash course in grammar and history while learning vocab, bc context has changes so much from 200BC to AD1500
Italian and Spanish are the closest to latin
The Mexican lady is adorable
Todas falantes de línguas latinas è comunicando-se numa língua germânica 🙄
Penso que pode divagar um pouco e complica depois fazer as legendas em inglês, mas concordo que seria muito divertido.
Latin - Spanish
Amare - Amar
Anima - Anima
Expellere -> Expulsar
Veni, Vidi, Vici - Vine, Vi, Venci
Carpe Diem - Capta el Dia
Cogito Ergo Sum - Pienso, luego existo Lit. Creo Por eso Soy
Vice Versa - Viceversa
Un peu à côté de la plaque notre ambassadrice
Merci bop pour vos commentaires très bienveillants en tout cas. Donc c'était moi la française. En effet je vie en Corée (la où on est filmer) depuis plusieurs années et je parle également anglais couramment ce qui fait 3 langues à gérer. Je vous défis de faire la même chose! Ensuite pour cette vidéo nous n'avons pas été mis au courant du thème. Nous avons su 5 minutes à l'avance ce qui allais être filmer donc nous n'étions pas préparer, c'etais donc spontané et avec le stress + le fait que je parle très peut français c'est dernières années, j'ai pas sorti une perf de dingue en effet. Ça veut pas dire que jsuis conne ou que j'ai pas de culture, mais merci de votre inquiétude. Ah et PS: oui j'ai mis le drapeau à l'envers j'avais pas fait gaffe pasquon a eu 5 minutes avant de tournée!!!!
Brazil, Italy, Mexico=Spain, Argentina, France
Tô amando os vídeos, cada vez melhor
De parte de un hispanohablante de Costa Rica, diré palabras o frases relacionadas, no necesariamente la traducción directa:
Lumin: Luminoso, luminaria. (Tengo entendido que "luz" viene de "lux").
Expellere: Expeler, Expulsar. También me suena a "repeler", aunque sé que es diferente.
Amare: Amar
Anima: Ánima (en Costa Rica tenemos la leyenda de las Ánimas en Pena, fuera de eso, usamos más "alma")
Veni, vedi, vici: Vine, vi, vencí (¿¡cómo que en español no suena bien!?)
Carpe diem: Ehhh, seré sincero, había leído esta frase, pero creo (énfasis en "creo") que en Costa Rica casi no se usa, es más, inicialmente pensé que era un tipo de misa católica (y como no soy cristiano ni crecí en una familia cristiana, y lo más que pensé fue un "requiem"...) n_ñU "Diem" sí me sonó a "Día", incluso a "Dios", pero hasta ahí llegué. Fue la única frase que no capté en lo absoluto.
Cogito ergo sum: Sé que es "pienso, luego existo", pero por sonido más parecido, aunque el significado cambiaría, sería "conozco, por tanto, soy". "Cogito" se me hace parecido a "cognitivo".
Vice versa: En español la tenemos igual XD XD Sólo que como una sola palabra en vez de dos: viceversa.
Dafne, como siempre, como buena mexicana, tiene que encontrarle doble sentido a las cosas 😅😂😂 eso es todoooo!!!
We Brazilians do this a lot too, I felt related 😂😂
Creo que debe ser una cosa hispana porque los españoles lo hacemos mucho y lo mismo te puedo decir de amistades colombianas, cubanas, dominicanas y venezolanas
The literal translation of « cogito ergo sum » is “I am a thinking being” so in french it is “Je suis un être pensant”. It is a sentence from a philosopher called Descartes who advocates that humans can prove that they exist by the fact that they can think. That’s it for fun fact !
Well, no... In Latin means "I think, therefore I am"... And it's not about being a human being, it's Descartes saying that the very fact that we are able to experience ourselves thinking is the guarantee of our own existence. We can doubt that we exist, but we cannot doubt that we think, so "We think, therefore we are", Cogitamus ergo sumus.
Bring back Italian Giulia
Latin - Portuguese
Amare -> "Amar" (to love)
Anima -> "Alma" (meaning soul and also derives "ânimo" [animus] and "anima" [animate / cheer])
Veni, vidi, vici -> "vem, vê, vence" or "venha, veja, vença"
Carpe diem -> "Carpe o dia" ("carpe" is a little wird in this case, because come from the verb "carpir", to carp, and in this sentence means "colhe o dia", reap the day, or better explained "aproveite o dia", enjoy the day)
Cogito ergo sum -> "Cogito, logo sou" or commonly "penso, logo sou"
Todas re lindas pero la chica mexicana es hermosa.
The Latin phrases should have been not well-known but basic. This would have tested their understanding. Perhaps bringing on a Latin speaker like Luke Ranieri to say basic conservational phrases and words would have sparked more interest in them knowing their ancestral language.
I have to say the Mexican girl failed to take this Latin exercise seriously, came off indifferent and slightly foul minded with the Latin phrases/words. Latin words are used in Spanish-speaking countries. However, they are just more geared towards studied and cultured individuals -- i.e., ipso facto, in lex talionis, in situ, etc. I would say "Vice Versa" is the most commonly known and used phrase in the Western Hemisphere that comes directly (and literally) from Latin.
Sardinian is the closest language to Latin, but if we consider only the main Romance languages (Portuguese, Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian), Italian and Spanish are closest to Vulgar Latin. Portuguese and French are the most distant.
1- Italian, 2- Spanish, 3- Romanian, 4- Portuguese, 5- French.
Romeno acima do português? Wtf
@@lutaro2194 Sim.
Percentual de diferença entre as línguas Românicas e o Latim. Quanto maior a porcentagem, mais distante do Latim Vulgar é. Quanto menor a porcentagem, mais próximo do Latim Vulgar é.
Sardo, dialeto da Sardenha (Itália): 8%
Italiano: 12%
Espanhol: 20%
Romeno: 23,5%
Português: 31%
Francês: 44%
Mas o Português é muuito similar ao espanhol ,pela lógica portugueses e espanhol teriam quase mesmo nível de semelhança com o latim.
@@natalialinharesaguiar2983 Não fui eu quem fez esse estudo. Apenas trouxe os dados após fazer uma pesquisa.
Em todas as fontes que pesquisei, o Romeno é mais próximo do Latim Vulgar do que o Português. Acho que pela gramática, sei lá.
@valerioluizfelipe Como eu já comentei antes. O estudo leva em conta todos os aspectos das línguas românicas. Acho que a gramática do Romeno deve ser mais próxima do Espanhol e Latim Vulgar do que o Português.
Outro fator importante. Acho que é sobre o Português de Portugal, não o do Brasil.
For the French translation of *Veni vidi Vici*, **4:12**, it would be more Je suis venu (i came) j’ai vu (I saw) j’ai vaincu (I conquered*
Not conquered. Or else he would have Say it : "j'ai conquis" which is different. I would have translate: "I have defeated"