In an Interview in Japan , Hideo Kojima said : "if the player replays the mission "Skull Face" after completing "Truth: The Man Who Sold the World", although the speech Skull Face gave to Big Boss is the same, the subtitles will add quotation marks around "Big Boss"."
I re-watched 2 different recordings. He says "Follow me, Big Boss" but the game subtitles don't have the quotations in the cutscene. But I'll check other cutscenes
@@dirtypms for me the phantom pain is the BEST & ULTIMATE game in the world , so much hidden details that only few start to understand now in 2019.....incredible !
@@markhamilton3215 Congratulations! You like....bad things! Phantom Pain is an incomplete game that has zero substance and no angle on the direction this game was hyped up to go. The sandbox feel of PP was there and it was of quality. But once you peel the real layers of this game, it really makes your statement look absolutely horrid. To YOU, it may be an opinion but even opinions can be wrong. The fact is, this is NOT the ultimate, most definitive experience for anyone as this is the trashiest tier MGS title in the history of its legacy. And it's not Kojima-san's fault whatsoever. You seriously need to play MGS4 for that ultimate experience. Even Ground Zeroes has more balls than this garbage of a game, and Skull Face is a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain, at best! His presentation was leagues better in GZ.
Venom snake isn't evil, skullface in GZ was big boss, but in phantom pain he is venom snake he was burned in the helicopter crash and he has same scar like the one on venom's horn. Skullface's pilot is pequad (and has diamond dogs logo on his helmet too) he also uses same helicopter type as venom, venom has an XOF soldier backpack from ground zeroes. And there's too many signs.
Someone explain me this : in 'the truth' tapes Cipher calls Skull Face Jack And we all know who is Jack or John... So for me after the mirror ending scene in phantom pain , skull face WAS Original/John Big Boss !! But....after reflexion : we see genuine big boss climbing cliff in ground zeroes prologue while skull face appear in the same fucking scene with XOF copter & XOF team. I would have understood if he didnt appeared in this scene but only later AFTER the copter /paz bomb incident that he IS the genuine big boss that his son solid snake burned him to death with his zippo/spray can. but HOW both of them Big boss & Skull Face) appear in the SAME FUCKING SEQUENCE is BEYOND ME ....because the motherbase soldier who protected big boss in the copter / bomb explosion is brainwashed/ became big boss shadow ONLY AFTER The Copter Paz Bomb Explosion !!! explain me this ...
@@markhamilton3215 Honestly I firmly believe that Skull Face was originally intended to be Venom Snake's subconsciousness. Here's my explanation: if you exclude the scene of Skull Face's death and the one where he pushes Huey, in every other scene his presence is literally not even acknowledged by everyone else (including Venom Snake). Even the scene where Venom Snake stops Skull Face from boarding that helicopter, and afterwards they go for a jeep ride as if nothing happened can be explained in the sense that he negotiated with XOF in order to inspect MG Sahelanthropus (I mean, he had abducted Huey ,the lead engineer of Sahelanthropus before it was fully functional). Add the phrase from the trailer "His face,his identity everything was stolen from him" and you get a perfect description of Venom. Heck, even the Skull Face's disfigured appearance could be considered as a metaphor of Venom Snake's condition (years of brainwashing and surgical procedures have completely disfigured him the point that he's a wholly different person). Also if you take in account that the removed chapter (Peace) was about Venom rebelling against the real Big Boss, that makes Skull Face's jeep speech ("This war is peace") the scene where Venom slowly pieces together the fact that he was brainwashed into thinking of himself as Big Boss.
Someone explain me this : in 'the truth' tapes Cipher calls Skull Face Jack And we all know who is Jack or John... So for me after the mirror ending scene in phantom pain , skull face WAS Original/John Big Boss !! But....after reflexion : we see genuine big boss climbing cliff in ground zeroes prologue while skull face appear in the same fucking scene with XOF copter & XOF team. I would have understood if he didnt appeared in this scene but only later AFTER the copter /paz bomb incident that he IS the genuine big boss that his son solid snake burned him to death with his zippo/spray can. but HOW both of them Big boss & Skull Face) appear in the SAME FUCKING SEQUENCE is BEYOND ME ....because the motherbase soldier who protected big boss in the copter / bomb explosion is brainwashed/ became big boss shadow ONLY AFTER The Copter Paz Bomb Explosion !!! explain me this ...
Yeah the gold plated sawnoff shotgun. Pretty sure you do. I take it as the weapon of choice because the game forces you to equip a primary and secondary weapon and it's the smallest primary. Except for the procure on site hard missions
True "Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water. Jack? Hmm. Jack fell down, broke his crown and Jill. Jill came tumbling after" In skull faces voice it sounds epic, but it's a boring nusery rhyme
He voiced President Shinra, when I discovered it I was so happy. He really give the character that full evil in him. I actually hate Shinra more than I hated him 20 years ago.
@@SaulidSnake volgin didn't have a really good excuse behind his intense violence besides getting a kick out of it while skull face had a large elaborate plan that had a bunch of parts that needed to be in place, so I think volgin was more sadistic
Probably my favorite antagonist in metal gear. He was there with big boss since the beginning, but we never knew. Kinda wish he got the recognition he deserves.
Skull Face would is a tough bastard, especially living with the injuries he's sustained over his life, but I can't imagine he'd cope very well with an ass beating from Batman
The thing is, in cheering "Revenge!" after killing him, Huey essentially validates Skull Face's whole point, in a sort of under-handed manner. Guess it's apt for his character, in the end.
I know right? The visual design, the soundtrack, the voice acting, the insane yet logical writing, it all just brings so much of the enjoyment of a good film or show while adding the interactivity that gets us to the next cutscene!
Someone explain me this : in 'the truth' tapes Cipher calls Skull Face Jack And we all know who is Jack or John... So for me after the mirror ending scene in phantom pain , skull face WAS Original/John Big Boss !! But....after reflexion : we see genuine big boss climbing cliff in ground zeroes prologue while skull face appear in the same fucking scene with XOF copter & XOF team. I would have understood if he didnt appeared in this scene but only later AFTER the copter /paz bomb incident that he IS the genuine big boss that his son solid snake burned him to death with his zippo/spray can. but HOW both of them Big boss & Skull Face) appear in the SAME FUCKING SEQUENCE is BEYOND ME ....because the motherbase soldier who protected big boss in the copter / bomb explosion is brainwashed/ became big boss shadow ONLY AFTER The Copter Paz Bomb Explosion !!! explain me this ...
@@YABUKIJOE2077 I think he (the man) was simply not giving the parasite results Skull Face was looking for (failure/disgrace). So he was euthanized. But Skull Face knew that was no fault of the man on the bed and that was his way of saying "it's not your fault". Key note about him: He expresses sympathy to those he tortures.
I don't care what most say about skullface, he may not be as memorable as the other villains before him but, he still has a special place in my heart. He doesn't get enough credit for what he did. But thats just me.
When I first saw this dude in Ground Zeroes, I thought this was the stupidest character ever, but I gotta be honest, he’s grown on me. His entire look and design is just so interesting to me, it reminds me of the movie Rango a little bit. He’s just such a weird yet cruel guy and he is honestly one of the first things that comes to mind when I think of this game.
James Horan's voice was familiar to me, then I looked him up and found he was in Star Trek. A show I watch religiously. He plays a few aliens, but the voice - he's the shadow from the future that talks to the Suliban in Star Trek Enterprise. Edit: in lockdown, James Horan would make millions of hits on youtube reading Grimms Fairytales by a fireplace, reading glasses on his nose. Ending with an eeree "Wasn't that nice. Sleep tight."
In the beginning of the game, Skull Face was sinister at times (ex: 10:01 -10:06). Then, he became a total jerk off at the end. Honestly, wtf, how was he not a boss (fight)?
They recorded grunts and screams with James Horan which indicate there at some point were plans for a fight. And some dialogue that doesn't actually make it into the game. It can be datamined. Check this: soundcloud.com/gboon/sets/skullface-interaction-noises
Skull face was just a smart and ugly man with a wide range of influence he didn’t have super powers or anything so in a one on one battle with big boss he would’ve lost
@@Gadget-Walkmen yes if it weren't for the offscreen Frankenstein reconstruction they did on his body, he'd look horrifically burnt and disfigured because Solid Snake set him on fire in Metal Gear 2
Vamp's ancestor? Shinkawa art of him before the burns resembles Vamp, theyre both sadists, both of their squads do tons of behind the scenes work, and they both have a death fetish.
Transylvania, where the Dracula stuff takes place, is located between Hungary and Romania. Vamp is Romanian, Skull Face speaks Hungarian. They very well can be family.
God damn it Kojima. Serious for 2 scenes and then he turns into a goofball. Superb writing as always, what wasted potential of an antagonist. Still fun though
Hot take here, but a much better twist would be that original Big Boss ends up becoming Skull Face, while Venom claims the title of Big Boss. Does it make much sense? No, not really, but neither does most of this game’s writing. But with the way Skull face was written, especially with him being part of XOF, literally FOX backwards, being Big Boss’s reflection, it’s not exactly stupid. Venom looks in the mirror and sees Skull Face in it, has some scenes where the whole “I’m a demon” thing is him believing he’s turning into Skull Face. Hell, the whole Demon Points thing could slowly change his face into Skull Face’s. The Man on Fire could be revealed to be the guy that burned Skull Face, for revenge, then Skull Face in turn tries to take revenge on Venom for taking his role. Plus, you could still have something fixing the “big boss died twice” plothole in the MSX games. It would also add a whole new layer to Psycho Mantis’ encounter with Solid Snake in MGS1, with him having at one point worked with Big Boss to take down… Big Boss.
The line "you became a demon for weapons such little as that" hits a little different cause I basically went full genocide on the Russians on that mission
@dirtypms it was where bees sleep, so I was running default gear and a sniper I had just unlocked. Got spotted at the base, ended up eliminating every guard in the area.
"S-F!"......"Shhhhh!"......"Hey, Nice Voice!".......But, His Character...."E-V-I-L!"......"Bone-Chilling!"..."It's Liked He Walked Out Of A Horror Movie!"......But, This Evil Genius.....Could Of Helped Man......"But, No!"......He's Only Out To Helping Himself....."F" Everybody Else.....But, Yet "S" Put His Trust In "M" And "O" Along With That Foolish Two-Faced "E" And, The Little Terror "E".....And, Yet Those Poor Staff Members On "M-B" And "C-T" And "Q" And, Little "S-Boys!".....Should Not Be There.....They All Need To Leave.....It's Getting Too Darn Dangerous Being There......With That "F-B" And "T-MOF!"......And, Don't Forget "T-S" And "S".....What A Horror Sci-Fi Story This Would Be....You Have A Blessed Life.
Cool idea and I like his agenda to a degree, but he really needed some more time in the oven to be more fleshed out. Some might say it is on purpose, to those people I say this character's role would work as well as he does now if he actual had some more screen time, but with the added entertainemnt value the story would get with an actual developed character would be immensly helpful for some of this game's flaws.
The weird thing is that he kind of looks and dressed like my grandpa minus the burnt face. His facial structure and even the voice sounds like my grandpa😂
Ah, Skullface. He had the potential to be a cool villain, but a lack of development, lack of screen time, a silly looking domino mask, and some very unintentionally funny line reads just made him a joke
Skull Face was so menacing in Ground Zeroes, but somehow Kojima turned him into a joke in The Phantom Pain thanks to that dopey zorro mask and some awful lines of dialogue.
@@dirtypms Reddit most likely. I've been looking for this for like a month now (It ticks me off not knowing) and haven't found anything about it. That's why I asked.
4:15
Soldier: Push him down the stairs it will be hilarious.
Skull Face: Right.
LMAO
oof, wish he did more than that to him though
do it for the vine
“Man, I always wanted to push a crippled guy down the stairs.” Skull Face in some Al universe.
It's Huey so he's fully justified
In an Interview in Japan , Hideo Kojima said : "if the player replays the mission "Skull Face" after completing "Truth: The Man Who Sold the World", although the speech Skull Face gave to Big Boss is the same, the subtitles will add quotation marks around "Big Boss"."
Now I need to re-play that mission and rewatch my recorded footage
I re-watched 2 different recordings. He says "Follow me, Big Boss" but the game subtitles don't have the quotations in the cutscene. But I'll check other cutscenes
@@dirtypms for me the phantom pain is the BEST & ULTIMATE game in the world , so much hidden details that only few start to understand now in 2019.....incredible !
@@markhamilton3215 Your standards are dirt low man.
@@markhamilton3215 Congratulations! You like....bad things!
Phantom Pain is an incomplete game that has zero substance and no angle on the direction this game was hyped up to go. The sandbox feel of PP was there and it was of quality. But once you peel the real layers of this game, it really makes your statement look absolutely horrid.
To YOU, it may be an opinion but even opinions can be wrong. The fact is, this is NOT the ultimate, most definitive experience for anyone as this is the trashiest tier MGS title in the history of its legacy. And it's not Kojima-san's fault whatsoever.
You seriously need to play MGS4 for that ultimate experience. Even Ground Zeroes has more balls than this garbage of a game, and Skull Face is a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain, at best! His presentation was leagues better in GZ.
I love how even Skull Face looks down on Huey for betraying MSF
Bruh Skull made Chico rape Paz lmao that man has no moral superiority. Huey is just a piece of shit.
@@nemo9864 he is a demonnnnnn
If someone like him hates you, you're probably just a flat-out scumbag.
@@nemo9864 excuse me Chico did what?
@@stevejm1629 Skull made Chico (a minor) rape Paz. A bit worse than a man who got mercenaries (people who get paid to kill people) killed.
Skull Face’s appearance: skeleton cowboy from hell
Skull Face’s voice: literal b u t t e r
The best
So hot ❤
buttery boi
I love how even if he is the sickest, most gutwrenchingly unrepentant evil bastard the series has had, even he finds Huey disgusting
Venom snake isn't evil, skullface in GZ was big boss, but in phantom pain he is venom snake he was burned in the helicopter crash and he has same scar like the one on venom's horn.
Skullface's pilot is pequad (and has diamond dogs logo on his helmet too) he also uses same helicopter type as venom, venom has an XOF soldier backpack from ground zeroes.
And there's too many signs.
@@Boss.X5 brother what are you cookin?
Very underated character. The voice is amazing, wish there were more parts with him.
i know, and he's like the phantom Ocelot. filling in the niche for western styled villains
Someone explain me this :
in 'the truth' tapes Cipher calls Skull Face Jack
And we all know who is Jack or John...
So for me after the mirror ending scene in phantom pain , skull face WAS Original/John Big Boss !!
But....after reflexion : we see genuine big boss climbing cliff in ground zeroes prologue while skull face appear in the same fucking scene with XOF copter & XOF team.
I would have understood if he didnt appeared in this scene but only later AFTER the copter /paz bomb incident that he IS the genuine big boss that his son solid snake burned him to death with his zippo/spray can. but HOW both of them Big boss & Skull Face) appear in the SAME FUCKING SEQUENCE is BEYOND ME ....because the motherbase soldier who protected big boss in the copter / bomb explosion is brainwashed/ became big boss shadow ONLY AFTER The Copter Paz Bomb Explosion !!! explain me this ...
@@markhamilton3215 isn't jack raiden
@@markhamilton3215 Honestly I firmly believe that Skull Face was originally intended to be Venom Snake's subconsciousness.
Here's my explanation: if you exclude the scene of Skull Face's death and the one where he pushes Huey, in every other scene his presence is literally not even acknowledged by everyone else (including Venom Snake). Even the scene where Venom Snake stops Skull Face from boarding that helicopter, and afterwards they go for a jeep ride as if nothing happened can be explained in the sense that he negotiated with XOF in order to inspect MG Sahelanthropus (I mean, he had abducted Huey ,the lead engineer of Sahelanthropus before it was fully functional). Add the phrase from the trailer "His face,his identity everything was stolen from him" and you get a perfect description of Venom.
Heck, even the Skull Face's disfigured appearance could be considered as a metaphor of Venom Snake's condition (years of brainwashing and surgical procedures have completely disfigured him the point that he's a wholly different person).
Also if you take in account that the removed chapter (Peace) was about Venom rebelling against the real Big Boss, that makes Skull Face's jeep speech ("This war is peace") the scene where Venom slowly pieces together the fact that he was brainwashed into thinking of himself as Big Boss.
@@conor-_C Jack is the birth name for both Raiden and Naked Snake (Big Boss)
12:00 Wouldn't you AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Someone explain me this :
in 'the truth' tapes Cipher calls Skull Face Jack
And we all know who is Jack or John...
So for me after the mirror ending scene in phantom pain , skull face WAS Original/John Big Boss !!
But....after reflexion : we see genuine big boss climbing cliff in ground zeroes prologue while skull face appear in the same fucking scene with XOF copter & XOF team.
I would have understood if he didnt appeared in this scene but only later AFTER the copter /paz bomb incident that he IS the genuine big boss that his son solid snake burned him to death with his zippo/spray can. but HOW both of them Big boss & Skull Face) appear in the SAME FUCKING SEQUENCE is BEYOND ME ....because the motherbase soldier who protected big boss in the copter / bomb explosion is brainwashed/ became big boss shadow ONLY AFTER The Copter Paz Bomb Explosion !!! explain me this ...
@@markhamilton3215 lel same name doesn't mean same people raiden's name is jack too but he is not the bigboss
@@markhamilton3215 and btw mgsv happen before bigboss burned by solid snake
@@dholdiperthemvp1839 I doubt Jack was even his real name to begin with.
Jean Pierre Polnareff?
10:57 Damn Kaz just dropped an eloquent F-bomb out of nowhere lol
I can't believe Snake sat through that entire monologue without saying a single word.
after everything skull face did to him and his army, what else would he have to say to him? that’s the way i took it
Silent but deadly.
He looked so bored though.
@@lafamille843 Wrong
@@lukescrew1981 it’s just the generic animation because Kojima had no idea how to handle that scene
What I learned from this game:
Scars = Cool
Blood = Cool
Facial Hair = Cool
Sunglasses = Cool
Weapons = Cool
Armor = Cool
Helicopters = Cool
Explosions = Cool
Subtlety = Not Cool
Cool
"Subtlety" is not a word in Kojima's vocabulary
Subtlety is for nerds who think they’re brilliant writer.
@@man3son1 I would say it’s a useful tool that is often used as genius writing rather than an actual tool
@@man3son1
Subtlety is against the rule of the cool and nerds love it.
12:51 I Respect How You Started Scanning The Enemy Soldiers "Stats" In That Very Hostile Situation, Just In Case.......
Can’t afford to accidentally kill an *S++* Soldier 🤪
I literally did that just in chase he set me up and I had to shoot my way out of OKB Zero again.
Gotta build that legendary army bro!
Wish we'd gotten his gun....
notforsale today I may be wrong but I think you actually do
Yeah the gold plated sawnoff shotgun. Pretty sure you do. I take it as the weapon of choice because the game forces you to equip a primary and secondary weapon and it's the smallest primary. Except for the procure on site hard missions
sadly you don't
would be cool to see Snake run around with a lever-action
@@joegrimes9232 thats not it, skull face's gun is a mare's leg lever action rifle
it's actually cut content I'm pretty sure. it's called the skull special or something like that
11:45 gave me the biggest chills the first time I played this.
Coldest line ever
@@YABUKIJOE2077 and then "Wouldn't you AGREEEEEE?"
Maybe his words aren’t really poetic but his tone is. And thats why I love Horan
True
"Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water. Jack? Hmm. Jack fell down, broke his crown and Jill. Jill came tumbling after"
In skull faces voice it sounds epic, but it's a boring nusery rhyme
He voiced President Shinra, when I discovered it I was so happy. He really give the character that full evil in him. I actually hate Shinra more than I hated him 20 years ago.
He was an admirable villain, good voice, good plans, and overall, good fashion design
I mean come on, dude looks like the Lone Ranger
I feel like he’s inspired by the disfigured man from hannibal Mason Verger
I wonder who was more sadistic him or Volgin?
@@SaulidSnake Equal?
@@SaulidSnake volgin didn't have a really good excuse behind his intense violence besides getting a kick out of it while skull face had a large elaborate plan that had a bunch of parts that needed to be in place, so I think volgin was more sadistic
I thought he was a mixture of Oppenheimer and Angel Eyes.
Probably my favorite antagonist in metal gear. He was there with big boss since the beginning, but we never knew. Kinda wish he got the recognition he deserves.
Its part of his prescence, be hiden in the shadows, almost never seen, in TPP itself his aparitions were rare, but intense, thats why he is memorable.
If Joker didnt exist. Who else agrees that Skullface would be a good main antagonist for Batman
Skull Face would is a tough bastard, especially living with the injuries he's sustained over his life, but I can't imagine he'd cope very well with an ass beating from Batman
Such a lust for scenes... WHOOOOOOOOO!?
Taken out by Huey of all people, poor Skull Face...
The greatest tragedy of Skull Face
The thing is, in cheering "Revenge!" after killing him, Huey essentially validates Skull Face's whole point, in a sort of under-handed manner. Guess it's apt for his character, in the end.
Only franchise where you look forward to cutscenes. Even after beating the game multiple times.
I know right? The visual design, the soundtrack, the voice acting, the insane yet logical writing, it all just brings so much of the enjoyment of a good film or show while adding the interactivity that gets us to the next cutscene!
My favourite line was "Major~... I'm burning uuuuup!"
Burning man: *walks away*
Skull face: Bruh. 30:09
"What gives, dude?"
"Such a lust for revenge!
WHOOOOOOO!?"
Burning man"Ight imma head out"
That’s volgin
The fact that the scanner doesn't recognize Skull Face as a bodily presence is a smoking gun Kojima detail.
Time code ?
14:58
The one near 15:23 is an XOF Soldier behind him as the elevator reaches the bottom. @@maywandamir8480
@@ericb.1384 thank you
I was born in a small village.
Someone explain me this :
in 'the truth' tapes Cipher calls Skull Face Jack
And we all know who is Jack or John...
So for me after the mirror ending scene in phantom pain , skull face WAS Original/John Big Boss !!
But....after reflexion : we see genuine big boss climbing cliff in ground zeroes prologue while skull face appear in the same fucking scene with XOF copter & XOF team.
I would have understood if he didnt appeared in this scene but only later AFTER the copter /paz bomb incident that he IS the genuine big boss that his son solid snake burned him to death with his zippo/spray can. but HOW both of them Big boss & Skull Face) appear in the SAME FUCKING SEQUENCE is BEYOND ME ....because the motherbase soldier who protected big boss in the copter / bomb explosion is brainwashed/ became big boss shadow ONLY AFTER The Copter Paz Bomb Explosion !!! explain me this ...
Every enemy in Metal Gear comes from a village, apparently.
"I accept your disgrace, your sorrow, unto myself. Rest in peace." is my favorite line from him
Why’d he say that to the random guy
@@YABUKIJOE2077 I think he (the man) was simply not giving the parasite results Skull Face was looking for (failure/disgrace). So he was euthanized. But Skull Face knew that was no fault of the man on the bed and that was his way of saying "it's not your fault".
Key note about him:
He expresses sympathy to those he tortures.
timestamp?
@@poodabear-1 9:30
Whats the language He uses there
Crazy how he’s essentially the main villain of the entire series by proxy
I don't care what most say about skullface, he may not be as memorable as the other villains before him but, he still has a special place in my heart. He doesn't get enough credit for what he did. But thats just me.
He is also venom snake that makes him even more special
27:25 WHOOOOOOOO!?
When I first saw this dude in Ground Zeroes, I thought this was the stupidest character ever, but I gotta be honest, he’s grown on me. His entire look and design is just so interesting to me, it reminds me of the movie Rango a little bit. He’s just such a weird yet cruel guy and he is honestly one of the first things that comes to mind when I think of this game.
7:40 TODAY IS THE DAY WEAPONS LEARN TO WALK UPRIGHT!
12:20 "And that is why I'll show you my demon."
That's not what I call it but uhh okay.
Breh
Tbh he sounds like one of those guys you find at comic book shops that takes magic the gathering too seriously.
Care to elaborate?
Giggity
1:35 Skull Face is cold asf
"Rest in peace this time"
Bruh skull face always look so badass
This guy knows how to make an entrance!
James Horan's voice was familiar to me, then I looked him up and found he was in Star Trek. A show I watch religiously. He plays a few aliens, but the voice - he's the shadow from the future that talks to the Suliban in Star Trek Enterprise.
Edit: in lockdown, James Horan would make millions of hits on youtube reading Grimms Fairytales by a fireplace, reading glasses on his nose. Ending with an eeree "Wasn't that nice. Sleep tight."
In the beginning of the game, Skull Face was sinister at times (ex: 10:01 -10:06). Then, he became a total jerk off at the end. Honestly, wtf, how was he not a boss (fight)?
They recorded grunts and screams with James Horan which indicate there at some point were plans for a fight. And some dialogue that doesn't actually make it into the game. It can be datamined. Check this: soundcloud.com/gboon/sets/skullface-interaction-noises
He got crushed by Sahelantropus
Skull face was just a smart and ugly man with a wide range of influence he didn’t have super powers or anything so in a one on one battle with big boss he would’ve lost
@@ThatGuyKh1 he did have the parasites in him, but honestly the scene with kaz and venom shooting him was enough for me
@@ThatGuyKh1 but he has...
What Big Boss should have looked like in MGS4.
like what? skull face?
@@Gadget-Walkmen yes
if it weren't for the offscreen Frankenstein reconstruction they did on his body, he'd look horrifically burnt and disfigured because Solid Snake set him on fire in Metal Gear 2
There is a theory he is in fact that and this game is a weird hallucination after he got burned
@@Journey_to_who_knows well we know that's not true because this happens before metal gear 1 & 2
27:23 - His greatest scene
One of the best and deepest characters in the franchise. The themes related to this character are at the core of MGS itself.
4:47 He peed his pants
Unknow I am Lmao I thought of that but it’s actually his crotch being crushed by the metal and it’s bleeding
@@MrGhozt why isn't it red or black if it's blood?
dirtypms Hope that was sarcastic
It's tradition
12:06 looks like Snake is crying bloody tears through his missing eye
He feels a bit more like Gman than anything else
Every time I hear him, I always think of Crispin Freeman.
@FBI Alypstick
Funny thing also is that Freeman is in the game too but just playing a bunch NPCs.
@@civilwarfare101 it's funny because freeman voices almost all the Staff soliders, even Pequad, on mother base.
@@Gadget-Walkmen
That's the weirdest part of it all
Freeman voiced Sundowner.
@@transformersrevenge9
YUUP
27:23 Mybreaction when Konami fired Kojima
kind of hard to imagine that he's the same guy that va'd the king
11:29 chills every time
ngl his death was a bit sad but was a good villain though
The camera work in this game is beautiful (really wish you didn’t move it around as much in the jeep ride scene though)
I adore Skull Face, he's so dumb and campy, I can't take him seriously.
He's pretty badass, actually
Compared to guys like Volgin or Liquid Ocelot he seems pretty grounded honestly, not that it's a bad thing, but MGS has gone way higher before
Do you reckon the XOF soldiers ever get tired of him talking?
Do you? I mean I love his speeches. He has a great voice and charisma. I would imagine XOF love it wouldn't they?
Vamp's ancestor? Shinkawa art of him before the burns resembles Vamp, theyre both sadists, both of their squads do tons of behind the scenes work, and they both have a death fetish.
Transylvania, where the Dracula stuff takes place, is located between Hungary and Romania. Vamp is Romanian, Skull Face speaks Hungarian. They very well can be family.
@@omercan108 not sure. Still waiting for confirmation from Kojima-san.
Skullface is my favourite character, great lad.
5:38 we're shutting down. All units strike camp move out🫡
So much ham oh my god
this game is like a battle of two ghosts, the ghost of zero and the ghost of big boss.
30:56
What should have happened to Big Boss in Peace Walker
16:56 lmao why does he get so close
Dramatic effect?
they both want to gouge each other's eyes out
Mwah
The last part was actually frickin cool
27:23 - what we all came for
❤💀❤Cool, thank you!:)
If only u can wear xof gear...
Infiltration tactics
God damn it Kojima. Serious for 2 scenes and then he turns into a goofball. Superb writing as always, what wasted potential of an antagonist. Still fun though
Hot take here, but a much better twist would be that original Big Boss ends up becoming Skull Face, while Venom claims the title of Big Boss.
Does it make much sense? No, not really, but neither does most of this game’s writing. But with the way Skull face was written, especially with him being part of XOF, literally FOX backwards, being Big Boss’s reflection, it’s not exactly stupid. Venom looks in the mirror and sees Skull Face in it, has some scenes where the whole “I’m a demon” thing is him believing he’s turning into Skull Face. Hell, the whole Demon Points thing could slowly change his face into Skull Face’s. The Man on Fire could be revealed to be the guy that burned Skull Face, for revenge, then Skull Face in turn tries to take revenge on Venom for taking his role. Plus, you could still have something fixing the “big boss died twice” plothole in the MSX games. It would also add a whole new layer to Psycho Mantis’ encounter with Solid Snake in MGS1, with him having at one point worked with Big Boss to take down… Big Boss.
When fans write better stories than the original developers
Maybe he is. Maybe you’re seeing double. Maybe that explains the DD logos on equipment in OKB Zero
The line "you became a demon for weapons such little as that" hits a little different cause I basically went full genocide on the Russians on that mission
Tell me, what were your chosen weapons? What tactics did your Snake employ? And who was your buddy?
@dirtypms it was where bees sleep, so I was running default gear and a sniper I had just unlocked. Got spotted at the base, ended up eliminating every guard in the area.
"S-F!"......"Shhhhh!"......"Hey, Nice Voice!".......But, His Character...."E-V-I-L!"......"Bone-Chilling!"..."It's Liked He Walked Out Of A Horror Movie!"......But, This Evil Genius.....Could Of Helped Man......"But, No!"......He's Only Out To Helping Himself....."F" Everybody Else.....But, Yet "S" Put His Trust In "M" And "O" Along With That Foolish Two-Faced "E" And, The Little Terror "E".....And, Yet Those Poor Staff Members On "M-B" And "C-T" And "Q" And, Little "S-Boys!".....Should Not Be There.....They All Need To Leave.....It's Getting Too Darn Dangerous Being There......With That "F-B" And "T-MOF!"......And, Don't Forget "T-S" And "S".....What A Horror Sci-Fi Story This Would Be....You Have A Blessed Life.
Cool idea and I like his agenda to a degree, but he really needed some more time in the oven to be more fleshed out.
Some might say it is on purpose, to those people I say this character's role would work as well as he does now if he actual had some more screen time, but with the added entertainemnt value the story would get with an actual developed character would be immensly helpful for some of this game's flaws.
God damn, that into.. Very intense
He is my persona
44:24 - WOW I DID IT!
Big Boss and that other guy : 44:31 tf is that guy doin here
Kaz miller
If you told me this was a he-man villain I would believe it lmao
Chaotic character writing.
12:20
He’ll show him alright
27:26
Masterpiece ever. Great
As much as I love metal gear, there are so many things beyond logic XDDD
But it's like a good anime though
The weird thing is that he kind of looks and dressed like my grandpa minus the burnt face. His facial structure and even the voice sounds like my grandpa😂
Your grandpa has one cool ass voice
Ah, Skullface. He had the potential to be a cool villain, but a lack of development, lack of screen time, a silly looking domino mask, and some very unintentionally funny line reads just made him a joke
I assume you don’t like the joker then
@@UlimitedCookie1 how do those two things connect in the slightest?
Sean Lennon Joker literally had a movie
Ellithejoker find a Batman fan that doesn’t know joker had a movie you cant
Sean Lennon I know but he criticized Skullface for having a lack of screen time among other things and the Joker doesn’t have a lack of screen time
*He looks like a Voldemort*
I just Kojima stuck with not having the mask like in GZ, otherwise his design is fantastic.
Dracula: What is a man? (throws his wine glass to the floor) A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk... Have at you!
Should have gotten Mickey Rourke to do the voice of skull face.
4:43 Huey was missing payments to skullface for those rental legs
WHOOOOOOOOOO?!
If Kojima wrote the TF2 Spy
Stolen Comment but...
Skullface practiced a speech for 9 years only to give it to the wrong person
Not quite, venom snake is skullface
Such a lust for revenge
No way in Hell a couple of cripples' and a hostile child would be sent in a helicopter to help Snake here
emersion was ruined for me here
🤣
Fr that's dumb asf
Now just imagine real Big Boss instead of Skull Face
I need to learn how to model swap on my steam copy now
during the great monologue, real Boss would be asking questions like: wipe out the English language? and vice versa.
@@themagalanium9491 Hayter boss would be interjecting with his own insight, Kiefer boss just listens.
Speech: 969%
12:00 I agreeeeeeeeeeeee
Skull Face was so menacing in Ground Zeroes, but somehow Kojima turned him into a joke in The Phantom Pain thanks to that dopey zorro mask and some awful lines of dialogue.
This is justice
0:47, 3:45, 6:39, 9:04, 11:20, 12:34, 16:05, 23:57, 28:32, 37:49
He is giving me Heath Ledger Joker vibe but more dangerous I think
21:21 To 23:26 they really sat there like 2 idiots just doing and saying nothing for 2 minutes...
He seems very anticlimactic. I was kind of disappointed he didn't pilot a metal gear or at least have a boss fight.
Why did Volgin commit suicide?
Play the side ops
Because he realized venom wasn't the real snake and gave up
@@monkiplatts9224 I see thanks 😊
Volgin wasn't controlled by Skull Face anymore.
35:00 my favorite seen ❤
Is there any truth to the rumour that Skull Face wasn't supposed to be shot by Huey at the end, but would've instead disappeared?
Say what?
Where is this coming from?
@@dirtypms Reddit most likely. I've been looking for this for like a month now (It ticks me off not knowing) and haven't found anything about it. That's why I asked.
42:34 hits hard