I feel like if Rose fell for Kain instead a lot of problems would be solved. Cecil never even realized he had romantic feelings towards her until she was kidnapped and almost killed. Romance wasn’t really on Cecil’s radar so I don’t think he would have been too upset if Kain and Rosa were together. He would actually be happy for his two best friends. Then again story wouldn’t be as interesting. The song Theme is love makes my heart squeeze every time I hear it. The translated lyrics fits Kain’s feelings for Rosa so well. :,)
That's the worst part of love triangles. None of the people involved are necessarily bad or deserving of pain. Kain is a good man, better than most. He is a true tragic hero.
I know that its been years since this comment was made, but I like the fact that he gets paired up with Izayoi or whoever that female ninja chick (the one with blue ninja garb). At least that's what I try to think to comfort myself about him
I stumbled on this video while installing outlets at home..... brought out a tear that my wife caught....explained to her that for around 30 years a true friend had finally made his way back home. How some of these games really stick to people!
Thank you so much for this video! Kain has been my favorite character ever since I first saw him. Even though I liked him because of his cool armor at first (I mean, can you blame me?), as soon as I got to see him in action, I simply felt... More curious about him. How he was on the outside but what he felt deep inside made up for such a huge contrast that still amazes me today. I partly didn't know why I loved his character so much, it just felt right to do so. Maybe because he was incredibly human, which is relatable. When I discovered your video, I started to understand WHY I truly loved Kain's character. So thank you for that, I highly appreciate it!
This is a great analysis, but how could you leave out arguably the most compelling detail of Kain's character: the origin of his name? He's named after Cain, a Biblical character who kills his brother Abel out of envy.
I've never understood those, "living under his shadow" deals. The only one I truly understand and feel for is Luigi for Mario because of how simple it is, but we eventually see him grow more confident with himself as he is utilized for more adventures. To me, it's strange for me to see Kain hold on to this grudge considering the realized world they live in. His options for love and status are available anywhere and anyhow. If he's jealous of status, he could've built a nobler, and more approachable image of himself, because in comparison, the Dark Knight status and persona is feared, even among the common folk. NPCs are intimidated by Cecil's appearance and power, not by what the armor's power of sacrifice stands for. In the intro of the story, Cecil complains about the king using his power for evil, but Kain replies by only comparing how Dragoons are lesser in status and that he could've been one if he didn't become a Dragoon in respect of his dead daddy. Why can't he just look towards his kingdom's people for a significant other? Hell, Yang found a wife in an ordinary Fabul lady. His jealousy of Cecil over Rosa is kind of disrespectful for how long they've all been friends together, as relatable as it is. Like, at that point, he should move on and build a new friendship in another girl if he wants to build a cherishable relationship.
No,he can't. And he hate himself for that,because he can't just hate Cecil and Rosa,he find himself in shame. He is a dragoon,and he's honor is on line,he negate he's feelings over and over, making Golbez control him,to set he true self free. After 17 years, he can understood who he is a human,and to not negate he's falts and feelings, but live whit them,just like Cecil,who back to the Lv.1 and grown all again to be stronger,turning shadow in light,acept him. A hard work, who can we do?
Kain eventually understood this. It made him quite self-loathing, to the point of him having such a negative opinion of himself that he thought he was unworthy to even witness the happiness of Cecil and Rosa until he fixed himself.
@@Asterwisk makes sense glad too see you back at it, if I remember correctly I think I subscribed back when you made the grisaia no kajitsu review. I just happened to look thru all my subscriptions today and saw this.
so Kain basically goes off and gets laid a bunch just to come back and be Uncle to Cecil's kid, is what im getting out of it. the fighting himself thing is basically "i need to stop trying to bang Rosa. okay for Ceodore's sake i will be a good person" sorry but how does one be a Holy Dragoon. so he gets to be DPS And can Heal? jesus talk about being OP as fuck hahaha
Well made video and it shines some light on the character that was on my blindside. I've played a fair amount of JRPGs and when I see a trope or something cheap to create dramatic moments, I tend to hate it and sometimes it sours me on the whole game. I love FF4's story and while I don't think Kain ruins the game for me, I think he's just an extremely dumb simp. Thank God for FF4 the after years because it made him a whole lot better.
Not saying Cain isnt a sad character, FFIV was my first back on emulator in '99, and even as a 9 year old his sadness spoke to me, but i'm sorry.... THE MOST TRAGIC CHAR IN FF IS NOEL KREISS from 13-2. The last human ever born. When you go to his time and see his world state...its just insaneKain is alone by choice (other than his Dad situation) but Noel is just fucked, period
I don't get where you get that Kain is remotely romantically interested in Rosa. Unless this is fanfiction in which you might want to put it in the title.
He actively says when he kidnaps her that if he kills Cecil then maybe Rosa would only have eyes for him. He says things that make it clear he has feelings for her several times.
I feel like if Rose fell for Kain instead a lot of problems would be solved. Cecil never even realized he had romantic feelings towards her until she was kidnapped and almost killed. Romance wasn’t really on Cecil’s radar so I don’t think he would have been too upset if Kain and Rosa were together. He would actually be happy for his two best friends. Then again story wouldn’t be as interesting. The song Theme is love makes my heart squeeze every time I hear it. The translated lyrics fits Kain’s feelings for Rosa so well. :,)
That's the worst part of love triangles. None of the people involved are necessarily bad or deserving of pain.
Kain is a good man, better than most. He is a true tragic hero.
What a character.
It's a shame FFIV is often overlooked and it's a shame that this video has so little views 'cause it's great!
Kain is my favorite FF character! Great review of him!
Thank you! I'm happy you liked it!
I really admire that Kain's story is quite fitting for his namesake and that he finally got some justice (but no booty) in the sequel.
I know that its been years since this comment was made, but I like the fact that he gets paired up with Izayoi or whoever that female ninja chick (the one with blue ninja garb).
At least that's what I try to think to comfort myself about him
I stumbled on this video while installing outlets at home..... brought out a tear that my wife caught....explained to her that for around 30 years a true friend had finally made his way back home.
How some of these games really stick to people!
My favorite game, my favorite character... And my favorite lost RUclipsr. Thought you were long lost
"so you have come to offer your life for your friends?'
"no. i offer yours."
Thank you so much for this video! Kain has been my favorite character ever since I first saw him. Even though I liked him because of his cool armor at first (I mean, can you blame me?), as soon as I got to see him in action, I simply felt... More curious about him. How he was on the outside but what he felt deep inside made up for such a huge contrast that still amazes me today. I partly didn't know why I loved his character so much, it just felt right to do so. Maybe because he was incredibly human, which is relatable. When I discovered your video, I started to understand WHY I truly loved Kain's character. So thank you for that, I highly appreciate it!
Thank you! I'm happy to hear you took stuff like that away from this vid!
Its kinda true like Hes so cool but what was so curious about it was how he felt on the inside and how he hid all of his pain
This was such a good narrative! Thank you for making the vid. More FF fans should watch this omg.
Thank you!
Very well done. You explored Kain's character well and your editing was awesome.
This is a great analysis, but how could you leave out arguably the most compelling detail of Kain's character: the origin of his name? He's named after Cain, a Biblical character who kills his brother Abel out of envy.
Great video. Kain is probably my favorite character in ff4, and your video perfectly explains why. He’s a likable, but very human character.
Solid vid man.
Imagine Kain in Smash with his four different outfits.
I've never understood those, "living under his shadow" deals. The only one I truly understand and feel for is Luigi for Mario because of how simple it is, but we eventually see him grow more confident with himself as he is utilized for more adventures.
To me, it's strange for me to see Kain hold on to this grudge considering the realized world they live in. His options for love and status are available anywhere and anyhow.
If he's jealous of status, he could've built a nobler, and more approachable image of himself, because in comparison, the Dark Knight status and persona is feared, even among the common folk. NPCs are intimidated by Cecil's appearance and power, not by what the armor's power of sacrifice stands for.
In the intro of the story, Cecil complains about the king using his power for evil, but Kain replies by only comparing how Dragoons are lesser in status and that he could've been one if he didn't become a Dragoon in respect of his dead daddy.
Why can't he just look towards his kingdom's people for a significant other? Hell, Yang found a wife in an ordinary Fabul lady.
His jealousy of Cecil over Rosa is kind of disrespectful for how long they've all been friends together, as relatable as it is. Like, at that point, he should move on and build a new friendship in another girl if he wants to build a cherishable relationship.
Good argument, but rationality cannot dissect the dark corners of the human mind. Unless you're a psychopath
No,he can't. And he hate himself for that,because he can't just hate Cecil and Rosa,he find himself in shame. He is a dragoon,and he's honor is on line,he negate he's feelings over and over, making Golbez control him,to set he true self free. After 17 years, he can understood who he is a human,and to not negate he's falts and feelings, but live whit them,just like Cecil,who back to the Lv.1 and grown all again to be stronger,turning shadow in light,acept him. A hard work, who can we do?
Kain eventually understood this. It made him quite self-loathing, to the point of him having such a negative opinion of himself that he thought he was unworthy to even witness the happiness of Cecil and Rosa until he fixed himself.
I think it’s poetic that Kain as a Holy Dragoon is a better version of After Years Cecil
kain is #1
Thank you.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
woah you started uploading again now this is epic.
Trying to get back into it. Keep improving and all that.
@@Asterwisk makes sense glad too see you back at it, if I remember correctly I think I subscribed back when you made the grisaia no kajitsu review. I just happened to look thru all my subscriptions today and saw this.
Wouldn't surprise me haha. I'm trying my hand at video essays now more than flat out reviews, but hope you still like it.
PSP Version the best btw, but DS/PC version made for a much more interesting video to watch imo
so Kain basically goes off and gets laid a bunch just to come back and be Uncle to Cecil's kid, is what im getting out of it. the fighting himself thing is basically "i need to stop trying to bang Rosa. okay for Ceodore's sake i will be a good person" sorry but how does one be a Holy Dragoon. so he gets to be DPS And can Heal? jesus talk about being OP as fuck hahaha
😂🤣
Airship militia, huh?
Has anyone ever changed Kain's name to Van Halen?
This way it keeps saying Jump it makes sense. 🤣
DUDEE DID ELINA JUST HAD AN AFFAIR WITH HER HUSBAND (FILIP) BEST FRIEND RICHARD HIGHWIND??? Please somebody tells me i am wrong
Well made video and it shines some light on the character that was on my blindside.
I've played a fair amount of JRPGs and when I see a trope or something cheap to create dramatic moments, I tend to hate it and sometimes it sours me on the whole game. I love FF4's story and while I don't think Kain ruins the game for me, I think he's just an extremely dumb simp. Thank God for FF4 the after years because it made him a whole lot better.
I’m still pissed Kain hasn’t been in Kingdom Hearts yet…
Not saying Cain isnt a sad character, FFIV was my first back on emulator in '99, and even as a 9 year old his sadness spoke to me, but i'm sorry.... THE MOST TRAGIC CHAR IN FF IS NOEL KREISS from 13-2. The last human ever born. When you go to his time and see his world state...its just insaneKain is alone by choice (other than his Dad situation) but Noel is just fucked, period
So is the 17 years later part only in the sequel After Years?
Yeah. That's when it takes place.
Asterisk so in the regular game, the ending is just him at the mountain being sad?
Pretty much haha
Isn't This, The Same Kain From FFII?
I don't get where you get that Kain is remotely romantically interested in Rosa. Unless this is fanfiction in which you might want to put it in the title.
He actively says when he kidnaps her that if he kills Cecil then maybe Rosa would only have eyes for him. He says things that make it clear he has feelings for her several times.
@@Asterwisk I just checked and you were right.