Woooooo yeah buddy! This was just a stroke of luck. That phone call was the best of the week. Auction cars are always a huge gamble but for what I paid I knew it would part out well. Intuition and experience told me there was more to the story, and wasn’t a flood. Instead, we’re still scratching our heads! When a big storm hits, there’s never enough adjusters to physically look at every vehicle to confirm damage and often flood vehicles don’t have a visual indicator right away like mold. So the insurance companies look at the area the vehicle was located and similar claims and will write it off, set up towing and cut a check without ever seeing the vehicle in person. Thanks buddy!
I’ve been looking at this truck with side eye since it fired up. I can’t for the life of me imagine a scenario where this was subjected to flood damage, yet it’s listed as flood damaged. Something happened. Maybe that one commenter was right, and some detectives will show up with a warrant and a tow truck.
Open the driver's side door and press the “UNLOCK” button on the driver's side door. Turn the ignition from “OFF” to “RUN” eight times. Do it within ten seconds of each turn, and ending on “RUN.” Now you've entered programming mode. The doors will cycle, locking, and unlocking, indicating programming mode. press any key on fob.
My wife is constantly talking to me while I’m getting my daily dose of Rainman Ray. I can’t hear a word she’s saying. Thanks Ray, you’re my favorite site on RUclips.
I worked in a paint car shop from twenty two to twenty seven years old. My duty was to prepare the vehicle to be painted, cleaning inside and out. Ive learned a few things about the paint and varnish overcoat. The closer the owner lives near salt water (a river or an ocean) the more evidence you get. Salt always leaves a trail on the lower side of the doors and if not cleaned, it will start eating away the overcoat. Always look for pealing like dandruff flakes. It's a sure giveaway.
Good morning ray! Youre a massive inspiration for me and so many others. You, junkyard digs and vice grip garage were the biggest reasons i got so into cars
RAY keeps it fresh. SO tired of JYD same old - brakes and ads. And VGG is same. Find a car that will run with little work, do a tune up and drive it home. NNKH is way better.
On earlier Fords you don't need Forscan to program keys. You can use a eeries of switching the ignition off and on and then pressing the buttons on the keys to register them
Something is definitely going on with these "flood" vehicles. A local tow truck company called us to make a key for an almost mint late model low mileage VW they bought at auction due to flooding. There is zero evidence of any water damage. The car started right up and runs great. Key's don't "lose" programming. I tell customers this everyday. They call to get their keys "reprogrammed". No such thing. A working transponder key/fob can still start a vehicle even without a battery. The battery is for the buttons. Now keys can break physically or the electronics can break and stop working. Sometimes it's the immo on the car side that's the issue. Ray invest in a new scan tool that has immo function. I suggest an Autel 508 mostly for key programming or even better an Autel 608 which is a full function scan tool with key programming. We have both. There are better key programmers like a Advanced Diagnostics Smart Pro but that's way more money and way overkill for the occasional key programming. I would go with one of the Autels.
Well done Ray! I’m an old guy and this video proved to me once again that automotive repair techs today have to be total computer geeks before they even think about turning a wrench. I now know for sure that my days of DIY car maintenance are long over. Also, it’s cool to see RUclipsrs connecting and taking advantage of each other’s skills. I’m a fan of “I Do Cars and Eric as well.
Yeah, probably right. It wasn't running. After the storm they called the adjuster and they wrote it off thinking some of the electrics were fried. I have heard of people in my town taking a hammer to their car after a hail storm to create hail damage. The adjusters had a way to figure that out. I bought a land rover disco II for my son that was in Sandy. Needed a battery, starter and I had to pull the trans module under the seat and clean up the pins. Water was only a couple inches inside. Changed all the fluids. He still drives it 10 years later no issues.
I think Eric just scored himself a nice shop truck for super cheap, and that makes me happy. Speaking of happy, Happy Thanksgiving to the Rainman family and all of my fellow Americans!
Ford exterior lights typically stay on while doors and such are open, so you can see where you're going. An FX4 typically has puddle lights on the mirrors as well. I know this confuses you GM & RAM truck guys, but the lights being on are normal. They will go out 10-30 seconds after you close the doors.
As a Ford tech, I’ve found sometimes aftermarket keys have an issue with locking and unlocking the vehicle. At the dealership we were usually unable to program aftermarket keys to lock or unlock vehicles after successfully programming
I think Ray had confidence that he could get this running or he wouldn't have bracketed down the "donor" battery just to see if "maybe" he could get it running, was anticipating a test drive. Nice to see Lauren (very hubba in those glasses by the way), and happy Thanksgiving to Ray and his family.
I’m guessing they removed the passenger running board on purpose to allow front end loader to move it around. And that’s what dented fuel tank skid plate and what broke exhaust
I don’t think it was insurance fraud. When you showed underneath especially the front all that white residue is a key identifier from the Salt that dries and leave it. And any insurance company would’ve totaled that even if the water didn’t get in, for them they can’t guarantee that the vehicle would be fine a year from now. I bet the diff/ transmission was underwater. The insurance would’ve have just towed it to the auction. The auction would’ve have them detailed if they were bad enough to have standing water in them. I work at a salvage auction and saw that all the times over the last two months.
I'm sure Ray knows that. He's just explaining what he thinks actually happened. For insurance fraud to be prosecuted though the insurance company would need to be able to prove everything Ray just said. Which they most likely can't. I do believe what Ray said is what actually happened, but there is no way to prove it.
Programming the door locks on a Ford is easy. Just turn the ignition on and off eight cycles, the oush the buttons on the key fob(s). That programs the remote.
During Ian the water came up just enough to creep in my wife's car. It was no more than 3-4 inches of the floor board, but the ECU was submerged since it was located under the seat. I vacuumed the water out of it as soon as I could. A few days later i started it up and it ran like always. It still was considered a total loss by the insurance adjuster due to the fact that the ECU was under water and the possibility of corrosion of electrical connections in the future. The car was only 2 years old at the time.
Just reflow those solder joints-preheat the oven to 200°C, pop the board in for about 8 minutes, and let it cool down gradually. (if you don't have a rework station)
I bought a Altima rebuild title only because SF totaled car because wire harness into ECM had been slightly damaged. A nylon tie fixed that. Car was a 2010 Altima loaded 30k, still doing great today. I change CVT fluid every 30k.
Have a Great Thanksgiving Ray&Co. Thanks for teaching me, a stranger, so much about cars and life. You rock. If i ever have a son, i hope hes just like you. Free maintenance ya dig?
Dude, I live by the Tampa Copart and since the hurricanes that place has been jumping. They even have the Sheriff’s office doing night security. I’ve been working at a tax collectors office and hear from the clients that they need their titles (which a lot were lost in the storms) for the ins. Agents. The agents are overwhelmed so probably just rubber stamping. And cars are being auctioned off within days.
I was at the edge of my seat with this one. Awesome! Eric got himself a damn nice ride. Happy thanksgiving to Ray and crew and everyone in the rainman rays community. Be safe.
Eric scored a Ford. Not sure if that`s a good thing, but you got that Ferd running. Great job Ray. I too think the owner dumped it on his insurance, took the money and ran to the hills. Flood cars reak, they have a smell you cant get away from, sometimes even if the entire interior is replaced. 👍
Ray I wouldn’t call fraud. Here in North Carolina especially in the coastal areas, in recent years after major storms, the insurance companies will total loss vehicles in the condition that you are finding in this truck. The insurance companies have concluded that on the newer vehicles with crazy amounts of electronics regardless of the near storm inspection, that problems will most likely start to be an issue in the near future. They are as concerned about failures happening that results in serious accidents that could cause them to have a major payoff that well exceeds the amount that they would pay to just claim a total loss in the present situation. Of course the owner could buy the vehicle back from the insurance company and make repairs as needed, but the title will be flagged as a salvage vehicle. At least this is what my agent told me when I insured my dad’s truck when he passed away. That truck never had any frame damage but was in 2 accidents. It was all just bolt on sheet metal and a bed replacement and paint. But it was still totaled because repairs exceeded the current resale value. It’s 24 years old with only 90k on it. Repairs and future liability are the main factors. Once the insurance company pays there is no fraud because it is their decision and they assume the responsibility from that point.
I bought a parts scion tc that was a flood car with a drawn water line of just below the top of the seat bottom cushion. I found a water line below the floor with a sabotaged fuse box that gave the car no power at all. being I didn't need any of the driveline I wanted to get it running. I used the Fues box from my wrecked car and it ran and drove great defiantly a set up, but unfortunately the car was sold as a "certificate of destruction" and no title so I used it for parts but it was a shame as it was a 2016 with only 19000 miles on it.
The noise you heard while driving is from the exhaust hitting the drive shaft. Your undercar cam showed it Vibrating with the noise. Happy Thanksgiving Ray and family
Good job Ray,.. as for the brakes on the newer brake on fords , when the doors are open the "brake" /tails come on or stay on until the doors are shut .
Flood car doesn't mean submerged. Can be from an open sun roof, catalytic converters ruined by water intrusion, all kinds of things. Maybe not what you think. Insurance adjusters are not stupid and they are paid by the insurance company to maintain their losses at a low level. It's totaled for some reason, we won't know until someone talks with the previous owner or the adjuster. Not saying you are wrong, but you are making a judgement outside your area of expertise and training. Unless you are a certified adjuster?
Hey Ray,cycle key on off 7 X until you see the door locks ( lock and unlock ) with the last cycle being in the on position) then On each key one at a time hit the unlock button on each.Once done with All keys,turn off,Done..Your welcome.. 313
I retired as an auto adjuster for a major insurance company. We did not screw around with seawater flooding. The consequences of salt water intrusion was so insideous that if there was a question, it went to Copart. Mistakes can be made but in a mass casualty scenario like in a hurricane, mistakes are certain to have been made. I wouldn't toss the fraud word so freely. Now if you find a rod knock, all bets are off.
Exactly…Even if there was absolutely no evidence of water proliferation, the end result is the sole decision of the adjuster. The throwing around of “fraud” is a lack of understanding on how insurance claims are processed.
Ray never said who he thinks committed the fraud. No libel or slander was made. The truck was probably in a flood/hurricane zone, but that truck was NOT flooded.
I bought a mechanical damaged audi s5, reported as engine damage/failure to the insurance. It didnt come with keys so I had keys programmed the same day it was delivered. It started up and ran but had misfires on 4 of the 8 cylinders not on the same bank so i knew it wasn't timing. The problem was when you started it and then shut it off it wouldn't start again, my theory was something wasn't powering down and robbing crank voltage from the ecu. I found one of the relays wasn't closing so I replaced it. Put a new set of coils and plugs and she runs like dream. I only payed 1.9k for the car and had a running and driving car with 1k invested. The car is work about 11k 😃
I once bought a Ford 7 seater, and the only key it had was missing it's internal chip. The car drove alright, but not all functions were working. Had to lock the doors manually. New key and programming it was too much. Sold the car very soon after because the bottom side was in a horrible state and repairing it would cost triple the amount which I bought it for.
Having worked at an auction and been friends with the mobile locksmith, I found it takes 45-60 minutes to go through all the reprogramming procedures. PATS is a major pain! Coding PATS is seperate from remote actions. Exhaust looked like it was leaning against the driveshaft when you were underneath.
That truck has been in the salt, whether if it was in the water or in the snow, but it’s been there. BTW, I bought a key on Amazon for my ford transit, got it, googled how to program a key, 5 minutes after open the package to starting .
Nope, it’s not insurance fraud. Adjusters have discretion as to the claim’s adjustment. And the vehicle’s value of condition prior to the disposition of any salvage title. You could’ve ascertained this information by a simple call to your insurance company, and inquire about procedures to a vehicle’s write-off. Insurance companies don’t jump through hoops and hurdles on every claim. That’s why Insurance companies employ adjusters. Bottom line, it simply wasn’t worth the time of the Insurance Company to determine cause and effect, due to the dollar amount adjudicated.
Fraud is highly unlikely... insurance adjusters are paper pushers with minimal auto knowledge, they DO, however, know WHERE there was water coupled with the fact that it is the ADJUSTER who makes the determination, NOT the property owner. So how this MISTAKE was made is easy to unravel... truck works... event occurs... other recent related damage occurs... truck no longer works... adjuster ASSUMES water damage due to visual clues in the immediate area and writes it off because they have a dozen more to do that day and the corporation is more interested in CUSTOMER SERVICE at the moment as they DO NOT WANT TO LOSE CUSTOMERS dragging their feet... while they lose $5000 on a mistake, they KEEP $100K or more coming in over time because they did not piss off a few other people. This is just the way they do business after a disaster because in the long run it minimizes total losses.
On the module Initialization for PATS, when turning the key on, wait for the cluster and radio to completely power up, and then click ok, i have seen that if you click ok while everything is powering up, it can fail the initialization.
Cool Beens, I wish that i had that truck. but you gave me a way to go for my 2002 mustang (PATS) cause i had to reprogramed the KEYS. Then it started. for how long, time will tell....
I had a Ranger that had PATS and the main key would unlock the doors remotely, but it wouldn't start the truck which ended up being the RF ring sensor in the steering column. I replaced the PATS RF ring sensor and the truck started right up. To program a new key I had to quickly turn the key on and off 6 times on the column. But as for this F250 it still could have had water damage looking at some of the rusted items under the dash and the rusted out exhaust pipe. To say "Fraud" occurred is a rather bold claim when you aren't certain of the events leading up to the reasoning behind why it was "flood totaled" and auctioned. It's possible it was running before the hurricane and not running after the hurricane and the owner had an adjuster come out and look at it and the adjuster decided it was totaled. That scenario wouldn't be "Fraud".
Forscan saved my bacon a few times. I have one of the older Mazdas that have Ford computers and got down to one functional key due to transponder failure. Was able to pretty easily wipe and reprogram a full set of new keys for 1/2 of what the dealers wanted to charge for a single key.
That key fob is not the original key! Someone lost both sets and went to Ford afterwards and had that key programed to it! That is for sure a newer key than original! My mother lost a set of Ford keys and they programed a newer key that looks just. like the one you have in your hands. So she had 2 keys that worked for the car but looked different! Try to reprogram the new key! But of course I haven't watched all the way thru! So by the time the video is done I will find out what you came to find! Awesome work as always Ray! Your Knowledge is amazing! I enjoy watching you work. I have learnt a couple things from you! Well you were correct in your finds. Great Video.
There are cheap Chinese look a like keys out there. I do this every day all day. You can't tell from a quick glance on a computer screen. OEM or OEM refurbs are always the best. We charge more and offer a warranty. Some people only care about price. Those aren't people that I care to work for.
I thought he said it was worn, but at 102K, likely not that worn, but it is an official Ford key fob though. Who knows, it also has keyed started, not pushbutton start, so, who knows?
Thanks for this post! On Thanksgiving morning no less! Likely you had it in the can, just had to upload this morning and then go about your day doing Thanksgiving stuff with family. Glad the Wife Unit made her appearance, giving you some of your favorite beverage (kawfee!). Anyway, nice of Eric to likely find a sweet truck, a Ferd, no less. It's early here on the west coast so am enjoying it relaxed before I get on with the day.
Best thanksgiving ever. Staying home. Just me and wife. Not shaving or putting on real pants. Food/football. And I find a new Rainman vid! Happy Thanksgiving from Texas yall!
Great video, but sometimes you need to slow down Ray. You misread a lot of the info screens on the laptop, you could have saved yourself a lot of time. Especially the laptop software is prone to misreading. Do yourself a favor! But besides that, excellent diag on the (non)flood damage! This is a winner. Would very much like to know what’s been paid for it.
Just thought of this Ray, if and I mean if, it was in flood water, check the differential vents, Ford f-150's have a nasty habit of breaking or popping off the differential vent hose
Happy Turkey day, Ray, Wife Unit, not to be mentioned kids, and all of the rest of the folks in the US celebrating/observing! Ray- would the brake rotors have evidence of a water line on them?
Solid troubleshooting. Thank you for making this. Brake pedal support seems more rusted than expected. Is it possible a tree went through a window and soaked from above?
Hey ray i think you should at least should remove sests, lift carpet and inspect all harness plugs at floor level, bypass as necessary. Solder / heatshrink etc. Been there done that. Also resale effected, yiu must disclose to future owners electrically unreliable.
Thats been in salt water for sure, maybe not in a flood. That has more rust than my 40 year old chevy in wv. You didn't check the axel lube b4 test......great due diligence
Many people think auto insurance adjusters do not know much about vehicles... well, they know much more than you realize! These guys and gals live, breathe and eat auto claims all day long everyday, mostly collision claims which smoetimes appear to be minor, can easily total a vehicle these days. 70% of the ACV (Acutal Cash Value) is the typical threshold to total a vehicle but the percentage varies by state law.
24:25 I would re-word this a bit. To make it more technically correct. It does translate the protocol, to some variation of serial port protocol, that windows can recognize, but windows on its own doesn't understand the underlying data. Than the program that you use can communicate via this serial link and it can understand the underlying data.
Woooooo yeah buddy!
This was just a stroke of luck. That phone call was the best of the week.
Auction cars are always a huge gamble but for what I paid I knew it would part out well. Intuition and experience told me there was more to the story, and wasn’t a flood. Instead, we’re still scratching our heads!
When a big storm hits, there’s never enough adjusters to physically look at every vehicle to confirm damage and often flood vehicles don’t have a visual indicator right away like mold.
So the insurance companies look at the area the vehicle was located and similar claims and will write it off, set up towing and cut a check without ever seeing the vehicle in person.
Thanks buddy!
I’ve been looking at this truck with side eye since it fired up. I can’t for the life of me imagine a scenario where this was subjected to flood damage, yet it’s listed as flood damaged. Something happened. Maybe that one commenter was right, and some detectives will show up with a warrant and a tow truck.
Open the driver's side door and press the “UNLOCK” button on the driver's side door. Turn the ignition from “OFF” to “RUN” eight times. Do it within ten seconds of each turn, and ending on “RUN.” Now you've entered programming mode. The doors will cycle, locking, and unlocking, indicating programming mode. press any key on fob.
This!
ah yes, another ford owner hello
I just did this on my 2010 Ford explorer
Yhup. How I programmed my 1997 F-150 FOBs after the truck mysteriously forgot them.
But... there is no "any" button on the FOB...
Exhaust and fuel tank damage are from the forklift at the auction site
Yeah the fuel tank dent is right in line with the exhaust breakage when forks came in from the side.
also the running board
Copar is horrible about forklift damage.
Military DRMOs were notorious for that. Bent driveshafts and cracked tranny cases...
Bingo.
My wife is constantly talking to me while I’m getting my daily dose of Rainman Ray. I can’t hear a word she’s saying. Thanks Ray, you’re my favorite site on RUclips.
I got some high quality headphones that almost totally cancel outside noise while I watch the Rainman.
Bose headphones
All married men have the ability to block out unwanted noses.
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That skill set is actually not limited to those of us who have acquired a mate, and a marriage license!
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I worked in a paint car shop from twenty two to twenty seven years old. My duty was to prepare the vehicle to be painted, cleaning inside and out. Ive learned a few things about the paint and varnish overcoat. The closer the owner lives near salt water (a river or an ocean) the more evidence you get. Salt always leaves a trail on the lower side of the doors and if not cleaned, it will start eating away the overcoat. Always look for pealing like dandruff flakes. It's a sure giveaway.
Good morning ray! Youre a massive inspiration for me and so many others. You, junkyard digs and vice grip garage were the biggest reasons i got so into cars
Love Junkyard Mook, but she doesn’t post that often nowadays. Pity.
RAY keeps it fresh. SO tired of JYD same old - brakes and ads. And VGG is same. Find a car that will run with little work, do a tune up and drive it home. NNKH is way better.
Underside damage prolly from when front-end loader identifies as a forklift. Very typical in these salvage yard/auction/copart specials.
If the insurance company inspected the vehicle and totaled it for whatever reason, there is no fraud. They can't defraud themselves.
Unless the adjuster was in on it....
@@Flies2FLL True dat!
On earlier Fords you don't need Forscan to program keys. You can use a eeries of switching the ignition off and on and then pressing the buttons on the keys to register them
Something is definitely going on with these "flood" vehicles. A local tow truck company called us to make a key for an almost mint late model low mileage VW they bought at auction due to flooding. There is zero evidence of any water damage. The car started right up and runs great.
Key's don't "lose" programming. I tell customers this everyday. They call to get their keys "reprogrammed". No such thing. A working transponder key/fob can still start a vehicle even without a battery. The battery is for the buttons. Now keys can break physically or the electronics can break and stop working. Sometimes it's the immo on the car side that's the issue. Ray invest in a new scan tool that has immo function. I suggest an Autel 508 mostly for key programming or even better an Autel 608 which is a full function scan tool with key programming. We have both. There are better key programmers like a Advanced Diagnostics Smart Pro but that's way more money and way overkill for the occasional key programming. I would go with one of the Autels.
Well done Ray! I’m an old guy and this video proved to me once again that automotive repair techs today have to be total computer geeks before they even think about turning a wrench. I now know for sure that my days of DIY car maintenance are long over.
Also, it’s cool to see RUclipsrs connecting and taking advantage of each other’s skills. I’m a fan of “I Do Cars and Eric as well.
Yeah, probably right. It wasn't running. After the storm they called the adjuster and they wrote it off thinking some of the electrics were fried. I have heard of people in my town taking a hammer to their car after a hail storm to create hail damage. The adjusters had a way to figure that out.
I bought a land rover disco II for my son that was in Sandy. Needed a battery, starter and I had to pull the trans module under the seat and clean up the pins. Water was only a couple inches inside. Changed all the fluids. He still drives it 10 years later no issues.
I think Eric just scored himself a nice shop truck for super cheap, and that makes me happy.
Speaking of happy, Happy Thanksgiving to the Rainman family and all of my fellow Americans!
You mean Eric found Ray a cheap shop vehicle! Ray has talked about getting a backup for his dirtymax
I'd check the rear diffs oil for water contamination - That would seal the confirmation whether or not it was in a flood
Co-part picks them up with a big forklift to move and load. Under carriage is always damaged.
Ford exterior lights typically stay on while doors and such are open, so you can see where you're going. An FX4 typically has puddle lights on the mirrors as well. I know this confuses you GM & RAM truck guys, but the lights being on are normal. They will go out 10-30 seconds after you close the doors.
As a Ford tech, I’ve found sometimes aftermarket keys have an issue with locking and unlocking the vehicle. At the dealership we were usually unable to program aftermarket keys to lock or unlock vehicles after successfully programming
I think Ray had confidence that he could get this running or he wouldn't have bracketed down the "donor" battery just to see if "maybe" he could get it running, was anticipating a test drive. Nice to see Lauren (very hubba in those glasses by the way), and happy Thanksgiving to Ray and his family.
I’m guessing they removed the passenger running board on purpose to allow front end loader to move it around. And that’s what dented fuel tank skid plate and what broke exhaust
I don’t think it was insurance fraud. When you showed underneath especially the front all that white residue is a key identifier from the Salt that dries and leave it. And any insurance company would’ve totaled that even if the water didn’t get in, for them they can’t guarantee that the vehicle would be fine a year from now. I bet the diff/ transmission was underwater. The insurance would’ve have just towed it to the auction. The auction would’ve have them detailed if they were bad enough to have standing water in them. I work at a salvage auction and saw that all the times over the last two months.
I'm sure Ray knows that. He's just explaining what he thinks actually happened. For insurance fraud to be prosecuted though the insurance company would need to be able to prove everything Ray just said. Which they most likely can't. I do believe what Ray said is what actually happened, but there is no way to prove it.
Programming the door locks on a Ford is easy. Just turn the ignition on and off eight cycles, the oush the buttons on the key fob(s). That programs the remote.
During Ian the water came up just enough to creep in my wife's car. It was no more than 3-4 inches of the floor board, but the ECU was submerged since it was located under the seat. I vacuumed the water out of it as soon as I could. A few days later i started it up and it ran like always. It still was considered a total loss by the insurance adjuster due to the fact that the ECU was under water and the possibility of corrosion of electrical connections in the future. The car was only 2 years old at the time.
Just reflow those solder joints-preheat the oven to 200°C, pop the board in for about 8 minutes, and let it cool down gradually. (if you don't have a rework station)
I bought a Altima rebuild title only because SF totaled car because wire harness into ECM had been slightly damaged. A nylon tie fixed that. Car was a 2010 Altima loaded 30k, still doing great today. I change CVT fluid every 30k.
did it come with fender dents and black out taillights for that big altima energy
@@SpicyElaichi No just factory clean, with very minor front damage that nicked the connector. It's rare but not all totals are bad.
Have a Great Thanksgiving Ray&Co. Thanks for teaching me, a stranger, so much about cars and life. You rock. If i ever have a son, i hope hes just like you. Free maintenance ya dig?
Thats a nice truck! No flood damage. Just minimal maintenance and it's good to go! Perfect flip vehicle! Exhaust and tires. Boom done!
Dude, I live by the Tampa Copart and since the hurricanes that place has been jumping. They even have the Sheriff’s office doing night security. I’ve been working at a tax collectors office and hear from the clients that they need their titles (which a lot were lost in the storms) for the ins. Agents. The agents are overwhelmed so probably just rubber stamping. And cars are being auctioned off within days.
I was at the edge of my seat with this one. Awesome! Eric got himself a damn nice ride. Happy thanksgiving to Ray and crew and everyone in the rainman rays community. Be safe.
I don't believe water after he was just in the first side.
@tlak definitely not water
Eric scored a Ford. Not sure if that`s a good thing, but you got that Ferd running. Great job Ray. I too think the owner dumped it on his insurance, took the money and ran to the hills. Flood cars reak, they have a smell you cant get away from, sometimes even if the entire interior is replaced. 👍
Happy Thanksgiving to The Rainman, The Wife Unit and their family.
Ray I wouldn’t call fraud. Here in North Carolina especially in the coastal areas, in recent years after major storms, the insurance companies will total loss vehicles in the condition that you are finding in this truck. The insurance companies have concluded that on the newer vehicles with crazy amounts of electronics regardless of the near storm inspection, that problems will most likely start to be an issue in the near future. They are as concerned about failures happening that results in serious accidents that could cause them to have a major payoff that well exceeds the amount that they would pay to just claim a total loss in the present situation. Of course the owner could buy the vehicle back from the insurance company and make repairs as needed, but the title will be flagged as a salvage vehicle. At least this is what my agent told me when I insured my dad’s truck when he passed away. That truck never had any frame damage but was in 2 accidents. It was all just bolt on sheet metal and a bed replacement and paint. But it was still totaled because repairs exceeded the current resale value. It’s 24 years old with only 90k on it. Repairs and future liability are the main factors. Once the insurance company pays there is no fraud because it is their decision and they assume the responsibility from that point.
RUclips programming a ford key to get the keyless to work. I programmed a keyless on a mustang and it worked
Each video is better than the last. You’re unstoppable!
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Eric scored big on this. Hope you and your family have a great thanksgiving
You are one smart guy to be able to do all this stuff. Great video !
I bought a parts scion tc that was a flood car with a drawn water line of just below the top of the seat bottom cushion. I found a water line below the floor with a sabotaged fuse box that gave the car no power at all. being I didn't need any of the driveline I wanted to get it running. I used the Fues box from my wrecked car and it ran and drove great defiantly a set up, but unfortunately the car was sold as a "certificate of destruction" and no title so I used it for parts but it was a shame as it was a 2016 with only 19000 miles on it.
Fantastic forensic video Ray... Super interesting to see your train of thought on this one.
Ford trucks that I pulled into the shop, the newer models always had the marker lights on. After closing the doors, moments later, they would go out.
GM & RAM guys aren't used to exterior lights remaining on with Ford vehicles. Ford's puddle lights seem to confuse them.
Another win for RRR! Good things come to good people. A few minor repairs, except for the cats, if needed, and she’ll be in someone’s driveway again.
The noise you heard while driving is from the exhaust hitting the drive shaft. Your undercar cam showed it Vibrating with the noise.
Happy Thanksgiving Ray and family
Good job Ray,.. as for the brakes on the newer brake on fords , when the doors are open the "brake" /tails come on or stay on until the doors are shut .
Love the video. I like tools like this that allow users to do more with their vehicles.
Flood car doesn't mean submerged. Can be from an open sun roof, catalytic converters ruined by water intrusion, all kinds of things. Maybe not what you think. Insurance adjusters are not stupid and they are paid by the insurance company to maintain their losses at a low level. It's totaled for some reason, we won't know until someone talks with the previous owner or the adjuster. Not saying you are wrong, but you are making a judgement outside your area of expertise and training. Unless you are a certified adjuster?
Hey Ray,cycle key on off 7 X until you see the door locks ( lock and unlock ) with the last cycle being in the on position) then On each key one at a time hit the unlock button on each.Once done with All keys,turn off,Done..Your welcome.. 313
I retired as an auto adjuster for a major insurance company. We did not screw around with seawater flooding. The consequences of salt water intrusion was so insideous that if there was a question, it went to Copart. Mistakes can be made but in a mass casualty scenario like in a hurricane, mistakes are certain to have been made. I wouldn't toss the fraud word so freely. Now if you find a rod knock, all bets are off.
Exactly. I like Ray, but he is outside his wheelhouse on this one.
Exactly…Even if there was absolutely no evidence of water proliferation, the end result is the sole decision of the adjuster. The throwing around of “fraud” is a lack of understanding on how insurance claims are processed.
@@briankiefer856 It is funny how some of them won't accept a claim for obvious damage but will accept them just in case.
Ray never said who he thinks committed the fraud. No libel or slander was made. The truck was probably in a flood/hurricane zone, but that truck was NOT flooded.
Salt water soaking a frame create problems down the road, nickel and diming the insurance
Maybe the extra keys are for the house that was also a hurricane/flood claim and the car was in the garage. Part of a package settlement?
I like Forscan. Useful.. Can turn on roll down or up windows with the key fob and a few other things.
I bought a mechanical damaged audi s5, reported as engine damage/failure to the insurance. It didnt come with keys so I had keys programmed the same day it was delivered. It started up and ran but had misfires on 4 of the 8 cylinders not on the same bank so i knew it wasn't timing. The problem was when you started it and then shut it off it wouldn't start again, my theory was something wasn't powering down and robbing crank voltage from the ecu. I found one of the relays wasn't closing so I replaced it. Put a new set of coils and plugs and she runs like dream. I only payed 1.9k for the car and had a running and driving car with 1k invested. The car is work about 11k 😃
I once bought a Ford 7 seater, and the only key it had was missing it's internal chip. The car drove alright, but not all functions were working. Had to lock the doors manually. New key and programming it was too much. Sold the car very soon after because the bottom side was in a horrible state and repairing it would cost triple the amount which I bought it for.
The Copart forklift dented the shield on the fuel tank and muffler
Having worked at an auction and been friends with the mobile locksmith, I found it takes 45-60 minutes to go through all the reprogramming procedures.
PATS is a major pain!
Coding PATS is seperate from remote actions.
Exhaust looked like it was leaning against the driveshaft when you were underneath.
Cargo light on since drivers door open
That truck has been in the salt, whether if it was in the water or in the snow, but it’s been there. BTW, I bought a key on Amazon for my ford transit, got it, googled how to program a key, 5 minutes after open the package to starting .
Ray. The vehicle is a write off! The Oil Filler cap is upside down.
The 710 cap?
Wish I was near you guys. You would be my only mech.
Nope, it’s not insurance fraud. Adjusters have discretion as to the claim’s adjustment. And the vehicle’s value of condition prior to the disposition of any salvage title. You could’ve ascertained this information by a simple call to your insurance company, and inquire about procedures to a vehicle’s write-off. Insurance companies don’t jump through hoops and hurdles on every claim. That’s why Insurance companies employ adjusters. Bottom line, it simply wasn’t worth the time of the Insurance Company to determine cause and effect, due to the dollar amount adjudicated.
Insurance Claim: Floor Damaga
Back Story: Tires got wet
Fraud is highly unlikely... insurance adjusters are paper pushers with minimal auto knowledge, they DO, however, know WHERE there was water coupled with the fact that it is the ADJUSTER who makes the determination, NOT the property owner.
So how this MISTAKE was made is easy to unravel... truck works... event occurs... other recent related damage occurs... truck no longer works... adjuster ASSUMES water damage due to visual clues in the immediate area and writes it off because they have a dozen more to do that day and the corporation is more interested in CUSTOMER SERVICE at the moment as they DO NOT WANT TO LOSE CUSTOMERS dragging their feet... while they lose $5000 on a mistake, they KEEP $100K or more coming in over time because they did not piss off a few other people. This is just the way they do business after a disaster because in the long run it minimizes total losses.
9:37 muffler rubbing against the driveshaft, that'll make scrapping noise when driving. and at 40:00 it does lol
There should be a button on the door for the mirrors to fold
The round mirror adjusting knob on the drivers door folds and returns the mirrors. Pull the knob back and release.
Keyless entry is a separate function from the security chip in Ford keys. It has to be programmed separately.
So, the key was flood damaged.
On the module Initialization for PATS, when turning the key on, wait for the cluster and radio to completely power up, and then click ok, i have seen that if you click ok while everything is powering up, it can fail the initialization.
Cool Beens, I wish that i had that truck. but you gave me a way to go for my 2002 mustang (PATS) cause i had to reprogramed the KEYS. Then it started. for how long, time will tell....
Good Morning Ray, wishing you and your family Happy and safe Thanksgiving. Thanks for sharing all the video content you produce.
Morning Ray and hope you and yours have a great Thanksgiving!
I wish you would have added a quart of oil . Keep em coming
100K 6.2L is brand new. May need some plugs, boots and resistors in the coils. Maybe do the 16 plug tuneup.
Looks like a good deal. Ignore the haters because they're just jealous. Happy Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving to you Ray and your family and crew members 🦃🍂🥧
I had a Ranger that had PATS and the main key would unlock the doors remotely, but it wouldn't start the truck which ended up being the RF ring sensor in the steering column. I replaced the PATS RF ring sensor and the truck started right up. To program a new key I had to quickly turn the key on and off 6 times on the column.
But as for this F250 it still could have had water damage looking at some of the rusted items under the dash and the rusted out exhaust pipe. To say "Fraud" occurred is a rather bold claim when you aren't certain of the events leading up to the reasoning behind why it was "flood totaled" and auctioned. It's possible it was running before the hurricane and not running after the hurricane and the owner had an adjuster come out and look at it and the adjuster decided it was totaled. That scenario wouldn't be "Fraud".
Forscan saved my bacon a few times. I have one of the older Mazdas that have Ford computers and got down to one functional key due to transponder failure. Was able to pretty easily wipe and reprogram a full set of new keys for 1/2 of what the dealers wanted to charge for a single key.
Gr8 video Ray....Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Stay Safe.
Happy Thanks Giving. Thanks for posting.
Haha you said fores-scan 😅
Ray, if a vehicle has been flooded, the trim and sound proofing would be WET(or damp )!!! Franz (Derby UK)
That key fob is not the original key! Someone lost both sets and went to Ford afterwards and had that key programed to it! That is for sure a newer key than original! My mother lost a set of Ford keys and they programed a newer key that looks just. like the one you have in your hands. So she had 2 keys that worked for the car but looked different! Try to reprogram the new key! But of course I haven't watched all the way thru! So by the time the video is done I will find out what you came to find! Awesome work as always Ray! Your Knowledge is amazing! I enjoy watching you work. I have learnt a couple things from you! Well you were correct in your finds. Great Video.
There are cheap Chinese look a like keys out there. I do this every day all day. You can't tell from a quick glance on a computer screen. OEM or OEM refurbs are always the best. We charge more and offer a warranty. Some people only care about price. Those aren't people that I care to work for.
I thought he said it was worn, but at 102K, likely not that worn, but it is an official Ford key fob though. Who knows, it also has keyed started, not pushbutton start, so, who knows?
Thanks for this post! On Thanksgiving morning no less! Likely you had it in the can, just had to upload this morning and then go about your day doing Thanksgiving stuff with family. Glad the Wife Unit made her appearance, giving you some of your favorite beverage (kawfee!). Anyway, nice of Eric to likely find a sweet truck, a Ferd, no less.
It's early here on the west coast so am enjoying it relaxed before I get on with the day.
Best thanksgiving ever.
Staying home. Just me and wife.
Not shaving or putting on real pants.
Food/football.
And I find a new Rainman vid!
Happy Thanksgiving from Texas yall!
Great video, but sometimes you need to slow down Ray. You misread a lot of the info screens on the laptop, you could have saved yourself a lot of time. Especially the laptop software is prone to misreading. Do yourself a favor! But besides that, excellent diag on the (non)flood damage!
This is a winner. Would very much like to know what’s been paid for it.
Happy Thanksgiving Ray and RRR family and crew.
Exhaust, tank dent and missing running board are probably from them moving it with a fork like they do at those salvage/auction yards
Man what a score! Fix the gremlins and what a great work truck!
That 6.2 is a beast.
Just thought of this Ray, if and I mean if, it was in flood water, check the differential vents, Ford f-150's have a nasty habit of breaking or popping off the differential vent hose
I also like to add that there is a rev limiter while parked to 3000 rpm - Now your suspicion of the Cats being clogged is another thing.
I always check the power seats if they work you're good
Happy Thanksgiving Ray & Family! God bless!
Happy Turkey day, Ray, Wife Unit, not to be mentioned kids, and all of the rest of the folks in the US celebrating/observing!
Ray- would the brake rotors have evidence of a water line on them?
Goodmorning Ray! Happy Thanksgiving to you and Happy Thanksgiving to all of us watching i hope it is a great one
Not a bad looking truck. I'd take it in a heartbeat.
Solid troubleshooting.
Thank you for making this.
Brake pedal support seems more rusted than expected. Is it possible a tree went through a window and soaked from above?
Ray. Your abilities never cease to amaze me. Incredible! 💪
Another great video Ray Man great deal 👍
Nothing like watching RR on Thanksgiving morning while monitoring ze turkey!
267th! HAPPY THANKSGIVING Ray,Lauren,Dave,and Justin! Thank you all for these wonderful videos on your channel. Roger in Pierre South Dakota
Hey ray i think you should at least should remove sests, lift carpet and inspect all harness plugs at floor level, bypass as necessary. Solder / heatshrink etc.
Been there done that.
Also resale effected, yiu must disclose to future owners electrically unreliable.
The RGB lighting makes the gaming laptop go FASTER! 🙃
Thats been in salt water for sure, maybe not in a flood. That has more rust than my 40 year old chevy in wv. You didn't check the axel lube b4 test......great due diligence
"Speckly" rust too, that might be a clue. It might have been written off value-wise for a bunch of reasons. Hope the guy who bought it pays to fix it
Many people think auto insurance adjusters do not know much about vehicles... well, they know much more than you realize! These guys and gals live, breathe and eat auto claims all day long everyday, mostly collision claims which smoetimes appear to be minor, can easily total a vehicle these days. 70% of the ACV (Acutal Cash Value) is the typical threshold to total a vehicle but the percentage varies by state law.
24:25 I would re-word this a bit. To make it more technically correct. It does translate the protocol, to some variation of serial port protocol, that windows can recognize, but windows on its own doesn't understand the underlying data. Than the program that you use can communicate via this serial link and it can understand the underlying data.