Great video with Lee as usual. Regarding the soulder pain, a recent video from the french GCN channel really helped me. The topic is about how to properly engage your glutes by keeping your pelvis in an posterior tilt. So nothing to see with the shoulder pain but you'll see that it transfers a lot of the weight you have on your arms, back to your butt and your core muscles. It creates a more rounded back and it solved (not entirely) a lot of my shoulder and shoulderblade pain without changing any of my bike setup. So next time you ride, try to rotate your pelvis backwards and find a stable position
Really good stuff David. More please! I prefer to balance an iPad on the saddle as it’s big enough to cover the highest parts at the front and back. Then I put the digital level on it and adjust. That way, it’s always the same angle.
Neck and shoulder pain: A neck has a range of motion, and when you hit the limit, it will hurt and infiltrate the shoulders too. So if the handlebar is set too low/saddle too high for you, you might reach the neck’s bending limits. For me, it was just 5 mm of saddle height... but when you reach the limit, you reach the limit.
Good advice, thank you. I have a road bike that I ride 99% on long climbs as my home is right on the foothills of a mountain. Any advice regarding the tilt?
From the SMP saddle tilt example, it seems to me that the pelvis is not rotated at all. Who would ride a bike in that position? I am not sure you would be able to reach the handlebar with that saddle tilt without rotating the pelvis forward. Looks like that angle would prevent a road bike aero position. Maybe with the correct pelvis rotation we could have seen a more reasonable tilt for that shape
Exactly the same thoughts, not only the pelvis rotation angle, but also the forward position of the pelvis presented in the video was very far from a real scenario (the back of the pelvis should be at be back of the saddle, right?). I couldn't hold the presented position for a minute, especially on this SMP, my undercarriage would scream begging for mercy. Maybe it was just an inaccurate, unfortunate example shown. I could be wrong, I'm not a bike fitter after all. The way I tend to setup my saddle (but it's not SMP) is 1.5-2 deg nose down for the flat part. Other than that I would have a big discomfort while going to drops. That's how I do it at the moment. It's still far from perfect (I'm still having sore undercarriage after ca 1.5 hrs on a turbo trainer, outside rides are more varied in terms of position, so it allows for ca 2 hrs before I start feeling a discomfort).
@ to me the key is to find a saddle with a pressure relief channel that has got a good shape for your pelvis, so when you rotate forward the V shape of the bones match the saddle for support and does not put pressure on the soft tissue. SMP seem very efficient, it's just the angle shown in the video maybe. And the clickbait thumbnail...
I've put something short enough to fit on the flat section of the saddle, then put a spirit level on top of that to measure level. Something like a tictac box. Thoughts?
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Great video with Lee as usual. Regarding the soulder pain, a recent video from the french GCN channel really helped me. The topic is about how to properly engage your glutes by keeping your pelvis in an posterior tilt. So nothing to see with the shoulder pain but you'll see that it transfers a lot of the weight you have on your arms, back to your butt and your core muscles. It creates a more rounded back and it solved (not entirely) a lot of my shoulder and shoulderblade pain without changing any of my bike setup. So next time you ride, try to rotate your pelvis backwards and find a stable position
Really good stuff David. More please!
I prefer to balance an iPad on the saddle as it’s big enough to cover the highest parts at the front and back. Then I put the digital level on it and adjust. That way, it’s always the same angle.
very informative and well worth watching 👍👍
Glad you liked it
A lot great points,, thanks so much
Neck and shoulder pain: A neck has a range of motion, and when you hit the limit, it will hurt and infiltrate the shoulders too. So if the handlebar is set too low/saddle too high for you, you might reach the neck’s bending limits. For me, it was just 5 mm of saddle height... but when you reach the limit, you reach the limit.
Good advice, thank you. I have a road bike that I ride 99% on long climbs as my home is right on the foothills of a mountain. Any advice regarding the tilt?
From the SMP saddle tilt example, it seems to me that the pelvis is not rotated at all. Who would ride a bike in that position? I am not sure you would be able to reach the handlebar with that saddle tilt without rotating the pelvis forward. Looks like that angle would prevent a road bike aero position. Maybe with the correct pelvis rotation we could have seen a more reasonable tilt for that shape
Exactly the same thoughts, not only the pelvis rotation angle, but also the forward position of the pelvis presented in the video was very far from a real scenario (the back of the pelvis should be at be back of the saddle, right?). I couldn't hold the presented position for a minute, especially on this SMP, my undercarriage would scream begging for mercy. Maybe it was just an inaccurate, unfortunate example shown. I could be wrong, I'm not a bike fitter after all. The way I tend to setup my saddle (but it's not SMP) is 1.5-2 deg nose down for the flat part. Other than that I would have a big discomfort while going to drops. That's how I do it at the moment. It's still far from perfect (I'm still having sore undercarriage after ca 1.5 hrs on a turbo trainer, outside rides are more varied in terms of position, so it allows for ca 2 hrs before I start feeling a discomfort).
@ to me the key is to find a saddle with a pressure relief channel that has got a good shape for your pelvis, so when you rotate forward the V shape of the bones match the saddle for support and does not put pressure on the soft tissue. SMP seem very efficient, it's just the angle shown in the video maybe. And the clickbait thumbnail...
I've put something short enough to fit on the flat section of the saddle, then put a spirit level on top of that to measure level. Something like a tictac box. Thoughts?