Making Phosphoryl Chloride to Fight YouTube Censorship (REVISED VERSION)
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Phosphoryl chloride is an exceptionally useful chemical, and one that doesn't have enough representation or accessible synthesis pathways here on RUclips. So you can imagine my dismay when RUclips decided to demonetize my first attempt to show an easy route to make it! It was demonetized and age-restricted because I dared to show the negative consequences of accidentally misusing this chemical (not even because of the chemical itself). I won't say WHAT the consequences were, since they seem to trigger the poor souls (or bots...?) at RUclips, but if you want to see the original video, here it is:
• Turning Salt Into Phos...
I still want all of you to know about this pretty cool pathway though, so this is that video edited to suit RUclips's fancy!
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WARNING: while completely legal, replication of the depicted procedure is not recommended for inexperienced individuals.
0:00 Intro
0:28 Science Madness: POCl3 from salt??
1:20 Ingredients
1:43 First attempt
3:06 Trouble with steel
3:55 Some success!
4:12 Second attempt: all glass setup
5:25 Overcooking issues
6:26 Yield
7:31 Reactions (and smell)
10:05 RUclips sucks, go check out the original!
10:18 Wrapping up 
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Oh look, this video might end up getting more views than the original! Instead of limiting what I earn from this "dangerous content", RUclips basically doubled it...up yours censorship!
This got recommended to me even though I wasn't subbed. I am now though.
@@polecat6534 hey me to
RUclips is ASSHO! Hail SALTY CRACKER! 🧂
This popped up in my feed. But I dont trust RUclips, they can just swoop in like they did to Robin Bullock and poof, channel is now empty. No vids. Better to simulcast your new vids to YT *and* to Rumble.
im only here because fuck youtube
We're basically all here for that, lol
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Same. I don't even know what I'd use phosphoral chloride for. In fact, I can't even read.
I appreciate how deep fried this post is @@LabCoatz_Science Maybe on the original upload if it said, "Warning this should not be attempted by anyone for any reason", it would have passed their smell test. I've seen it used on Finger Skateboard trick videos and I've never seen those get slapped with the age-restriction requirement. Just sayin'.
Same we are going to push the algorithm
RUclips are acting really evil lately and anti-knowledge. Hopefully they leave this revised video monetized so you can be rewarded for your work.
Lately like the last 25 to thirty years
Is*
@@turtletom8383amazing how they already had that going 5-10 years before launching the site itself.
On the other hand, youtube(censortube)seems to welcome videos of persons doing ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS things such as melting and pyrolyzing random objects (Lego bricks, candies, biro pens, golfballs, etc, etc) over a skillet heated to red heat above a camping stove, with horrendous fumes given off (such fumes would probably be far more problematic for health, if breathed in, than well planned-out chem experiments/syntheses performed in a hobby chemistry setting, with safety precautions taken and PPE worn).
I'm ready to move to another platform. yesterday i made a rumble account but i was disappointed that they seem to charge creators so much.
Censoring the potential side effects of handling a chemical is dangerous in and of itself. RUclips really dropped the ball.
Yeah that part of the video dissuaded me from synthesizing the chemical just for funzies but now I'm revisiting the idea because of what @tehs3raph1m said. I know it's dangerous that it might give me an opportunity to set my fume hood on max and dust off some safety gear I haven't needed to exercise in a while. I don't get that sentiment from this reupload.
Demonetizing people for admitting their mistakes is just going to lead creators to never admitting their mistakes, which is much more dangerous for viewers.
Exactly. "I ended up in the hospital and I'm not even entirely sure why" is something every young aspiring chemist should hear.
RUclips literally doesn’t care. They just want money.
RUclips: First-Level Thinkers
Creators are being pressured off the platform. Better to upload to both RUclips and Rumble. Then nobody is a sitting duck
Ironically RUclips censored the best part of your video, the consequences of playing with things you do not understand.
Us to RUclips: "So can you get rid of the spam and inappropriate content?"
RUclips: "How about we censor history and educational videos instead?"
RUclips Users: Wait. What?
You keep doing what you do, it's awesome! Screw RUclips and their backwards policies.
RUclips seems to LOVE having pr0n bots all over the site. There must be some type of monetization in it for RUclips.
One would think that RUclips would want your very valid warning and inclusion of the dangers of chemistry that you personally experienced, so that others could learn from it and avoid it themselves 🤷♂
RUclips and Logical Thinking are the same polarity, so they repel each other, unfortunately. ☹️
Nah. Ya see, history shows that keeping people ig -EditForIronicYTCensorship- norant never leads to bad outcomes. Just look at teen pre -editFor
IronicYTCensorship- gnancy.
Someone let me know if you're able to see what should be my previous comment. YT censorship may have just devolved again, so I'll have to do new testing to see how to sidestep it.
@@custos3249 I see it.
My "test" to check if a comment of mine has been devoured by the automoderation system, is to wait 30-45sec, then edit my comment. If it edits, it should be visible to all; if it errors, it's probably removed. _(technically, they're only "hidden")_
UNFORTUNATELY, I've noticed lately that some of them will accept an edit, but are not visible... So I fear this simple check may be unreliable. I'm hoping it's just because the comment system is quite broken in general, competent unrelated to what we're experiencing... Or at least it is here in YT App land.
(yes, I'm on "the list" as well; thanks Russian troll farms! [they dislike my Rus-Ukr ramblings and falsely report our comments... unfortunately, it's clearly quite effective 😔])
@@custos3249 i see this mesage just fine
Caught the OG vid, watching again to help push this.
I'm a simple man. I see a youtube video made to fight youtube, I click play and like.
Same.
And even better, the RUclips algorithm seems to know I feel that way, so I get fed such videos even though the video’s topic might not otherwise fit my viewing habits.
Ah yes, the good ol' "punish someone for doing the responsible thing because it makes us look bad" strategy. Truly, one of the strategies of all time.
"What? Warn people that accidents can happen even if you're careful and to stay vigilant? Absolutely not." - RUclips, probably.
Seriously. I just re-watched this entire video because screw RUclips's weirdly applied censorship. You keep putting out quality videos, LabCoatz, I promise, you are appreciated.
Wow, really disappointed by RUclips on this one
i'm surprised anybody trusts or has expectations of google anymore.
@@SeabornNomad I haven't trusted Google since 2006.
What do you mean this one???
RUclips is censoring so many content creators...🤬🤬🤬🤬
Fck PooTube and Spying google.
This company needs to be split up and sold off. 🖕🤬🤬🤬
@@SeabornNomadthey did take out don’t be evil from their guidelines for the company.
What's to be disappointed over? Its common behavior for them.
I saw the original. There was no reason to age restrict your video. Repost the original to all of the competitors and let RUclips cry harder about views they already deemed unnecessary.
What competitors?
@@JessicaMorgani Odysee does pretty well me thinks, Reddit not so well thou...
this is an utter failure on RUclipss behalf. your previous video was excellent in showing the consequences of not using extreme caution while working with chemicals even if we have used them in the past. to take away the monetization on the video for doing so is simply absurd.
Watched the entire thing out of spite. Being uncareful and ending up in the E.R. should NOT be age restricted. In fact that's PRECISELY the kind of video young aspiring nerds should watch. How I managed to survive age 10-18 is a mystery to me, as I was book-smart enough to be really fckn dangerous (and blew up several "items" in the neighbourhood) but I had no realistic understanding of just how dangerous those things can be. I joined the army at 18 and oh boy... oh BOY did I realise that my 12 year old self belonged on a terror watchlist.
This just enrages me so much and reminds me of someone from my youth. I was in elementary school at the time and this boy from my neighborhood was about 5 years older. He was widely admired, known as super smart. Basically had the reputation of like George Washington at school. Well, one day he was playing with some explosives and eliminated a few fingers. He was completely distraught over the incident. He had big plans, including the military and eventually wanted to be an FBI agent. He saw his dreams vanishing and assumed his life was over because of the incident and unfortunately in that anguish decided to make that a certainty.
Even good, smart kids are going to mess around with stuff they have no business with. Better that they have more versus less information.
YT couldn't care less about common sense. They see a risk for liability so they mitigate it.
watching again and commenting for the algorithm. we love you labcoatz!
That is insane that youtube supressed a video for.... Explaining that a compound is dangerous. I'd call that actively malicious if I knew it wasn't done out of sheer incompetence.
It's both.
Rekita has a story of how they did the same to him, said he was glorifying violence by showing a fight that went badly and saying this destroys and ruins lives and tempers must be kept in control
So RUclips dislikes your video that showed a possible DANGER of handling POCl3 ??? That's so backwards.
Meanwhile, as you say early on, this chemical is used to create Organophosphates from alcohols. That got my attention. Organophosphates are what nerve gases and many insecticides are.
So I was hoping that no alcohols in any amount or form were present during your reactions, especially when you had excessive lacrimation (one sign of nerve agent exposure, but of much else also, of course).
Maybe it was from from HCl vapors?
Glad you are better!
For those of you wondering, he may have been exposed to the chemical and had painful eyes that needed to be flushed out at the hospital. Lol, take that RUclips.
We gotta stand against censorship or this won't stop.
Thank you for fighting censorship and bringing us this fantastic educational material. This brings to mind the legal challenges the 'Anarchist Cookbook' had to go through, but, ultimately, free speech & education won out but there's always a cost to be paid
The absurd thing is that this is like allowing the Anarchist Cookbook only if he cuts out the safety reminders.
RUclips censorship is so scary and awful, and it won't end well...keep fighting the good fight!
Proud to have watched the first vid 💪
RUclips just doesn't like chemists I guess :(
Kudos on keeping a positive attitude like that. I hope you gesticulated that out off camera! I so feel your pain. How many videos I had made into a copyright issue or similar, just because I had the radio on in the background when I drove through a cherry blossom filled road nice and slow. ❤
Watched the original, watching this all the way through to help get you views and support the channel. Keep making awesome videos! RUclips censoring the most important part of the original video is just stupid and dangerous.
Watching again because YT is a child that likes to throw tantrums...
_(hopefully it doesn't matter that I've set it to 2x playback lol)_
It does, 2x playback counts as you watching half the video, but for me I can barely even use the algorithm anymore anyways
Wow this is a random video that's been awesome ! I'm glad I subscribe to you a while ago
Its a shame what is going on here - only negative news from YT the last years instead of fixing the broken recommendation algo. Keep on making great video!
Any time the recommended videos are getting out of whack, I send YT a detailed Feedback. For these Quality of Life sort of things, they're good (prompt) about addressing.
I've sent dozens of feedback over the years about various quirks, from comment preview line counts (before "Read More..." shows), to the Recommended being absolutely broken and recommending music that doesn't match anything I've ever listened to, and "Not Interested" not functioning and continuing to recommend similar content. As well as tons of other small app user interface annoyances.
All of them trend to get sorted out within a week or two. (the "read more" one occurred within a couple hours heh)
Lately I think they've been overwhelmed though, as the comments system is in shambles, and has been for a couple months. I see they are trying (I comment alot lol), but it's kinda just getting worse... 😅
However, all of these things are unrelated to POLICY stuff... You pretty much won't see any movement on use grievance with policies, but I *_still_* suggest sending a scathing Feedback about it. 😏
Eventually, as more of us convey we're pissed off, they'll budge a little bit. 🤏
Love you videos and respect the struggles you go through inspire us!
Let's make RUclips great again!
We want to know and some of us even need to know about the dangers of chemicals. Content like that should never be censored.
Love how you read the first part of the title and then see (Revised version) 😄
Here for round two!
I clicked and was like "wait i watched this already", then i realized.
I haave know literally no idea what this chemical does but good job
You can use it in the Vilsmeier-Haack reaction to formylate certain compounds. Basically you could make benzaldehyde with this using benzene, DMF and phosphoryl chloride
You can boil and distill it with dry sodium acetate and get Ac20.
@@trymatic7151i understood even less of that lol
@@picklesoda879 You can attach a formyl group (-CHO group) to a lot of different compounds, like alkenes or benzene. You do this with DMF (dimethylformamide, a common solvent) and phosphorous oxychloride (another name for phosphoryl chloride)
This is an ingredient you need if you want to make n3rve g4s. RUclips has no problem with him showing how to make it. But youtube has a problem (see previous video) showing him in a hospital because his eyes started burning so badly he couldn't sleep after having done the reaction.
The last video was a prime example of why chemists are absolutely hysterical about safe procedures yet still have every first aid gadget ready too. This video just shows you how to make something that will get you on a list if you buy it online and your last name isn't Smith.
Excellent dude! Subbed thanks! cool video!
Iron pipe threads need a lubricant to fully tighten. Without something to reduce friction the tapered threads get tight before they become sealed..
So your demonetized for, telling the truth and showing consequences if you're not careful?
I mean, God forbid if they ever read the MSDS at RUclips
That disclaimer tells me EXACTLY why not very many people are doing this- and I hope the best dude
A few problems with pipe in relation to sealing is that it's a tapered thread. It creates a conical leak path without a proper thread sealant like PTFE which would more than likely burn at 500ish° f, also common SCH40 pipe is malleable iron, you can get 304 or 316 stainless fittings and pipe, however they are fairly expensive.
I will gladly watch this wonderful video again :)
pipe threads won't hold any pressure at all without a thread sealant. High temp rated thread sealant or getting someone to weld or braze your end cap on would be ideal
The yellow-green color you see with LAH, might be PCl3 by the reduction, or PCl5 but the formation of PCl5 is more complicated.
you are very magnificent. I've learned a lot from you. I want to ask for your help. Please can you make a video on the synthesis of theophylline? With easy reagents
Interesting that this video was criticized, on the other hand, there are meth synthesis videos floating around on YT, which YT obviously has no problems with. Don't let it affect your good work, keep it up.
i just got bored with my feed and went up top and clicked 'experiments' in my feed. watched a guy cooking up crack.
Saw the community post. I understand and will rewatch 3x to make up for it
Nice video, i enjoyed.
Making D-Luciferine and testing it would be awesome and it would also be a somewhat difficult run. It uses KCN and other interesting chemicals
Yay. Another labcoatz video! If you aren't getting AdSense I'd join a patreon.
You're my hero.
The visual you used when talking about "ordinary table salt" was a picture of a Morton Salt container, that stated it was not the salt with iodine added (which is the most common type sold), but I'm curious if you knew that the table salt from Morton Salt without iodine added, still isn't pure sodium chloride salt. There are trace amounts of a few other elemental compounds that are added to help prevent the salt from clumping into a single, solid mass if it's exposed to a large amount of moisture.
Yes, I knew. However, the tiny amount of calcium silicate added to prevent clumping shouldn't really do anything to the reaction.
Right on brother
Although the pipe you used is steel the end cap and elbows are malleable iron fittings.
I was watching the original version one day, only got past half of it and I was so interested that I wanted to finish it the next day. I come back and it is damned blocked for me. SCAM. darn you RUclips.
Great video
Good video mate😊
I wonder if you made a safety video about inadvertent exposure to hazardous materials in the laboratory if it too would be whacked with the restriction stick?
(to everyone rewatching after the first upload) if you just click on the video like it and click away he doesn't get credit for your full view you have to sit through most of the video
If I recall correctly, RUclips has it sent to count as a view after 30 seconds of watch time, so you don't even have to watch most of the video if you're just trying to give views.
@@LabCoatz_Scienceas scientists where we live by people giving accurate information you hit the nail on the head.....
"The experts are untrustworthy, The manuals are proprietary, The management has different priorities, The authorities are too outdated to understand the problem, News is an impending sense of doom, and our compensation leaves us constantly unprepared for what comes next"
But it does get better
@@LabCoatz_Science Hey, you're not RUclips, you can't tell me what to do. I'm going to watch the whole thing again, and we're both going to like it.
To be honest you pick a pure salt, I work at one of Morton's plants and we put other anti-caking agent in table salt, like TCP (Tricalium phosphate) and sodium silicate, sodium ferrocyanide. I would recommend Morton's tfc 999 fine salt or sodium chloride USP.
Phosphoryl chloride (aka Phosphorus oxychloride, POCl3, or "pocl") does indeed react vigorously with water. I was once using it as a reagent, following a procedure from an oldish paper. The work-up procedure described washing the reaction mixture with water and sodium bicarbonate solution. As I added it to water, it was spitting and splashing a lot, so I had the clever idea of using ice instead of water. I added one chip of ice to the reaction mixture, and it went "whoosh", depositing my reaction mixture on the lab ceiling and forming a cloud of HCl gas. Most chemists have had to do a "bench extraction" at some point. Some have even had to do a "floor extraction". That was the only time I've ever done a ceiling extraction, though.
Oh, by the way, your lithal looks awful. It's supposed to be grey, not white. I have a suspicion that your sample got exposed to water somehow and formed aluminium hydroxide.
R.i.P. old title, "Turning Salt Into Phosphoryl Chloride: The Chemical That Got Me Demonetized (REVISED)"
Yeah, I did like it, but I wanted this video to stand out from the original (even though it's basically the same, just chopped down a little).
@@LabCoatz_Science
I understand, I just wanted to make sure it's not completely lost.
Supposedly, perchlorates can be produced by bubbling Cl through a water solution of chlorate & hydroxide. Never seen anyone actually do it.
Watched the whole thing again. Let’s get the algorithm going!
I can suggest to use a reactor made from Titanium. Steel is not that inert to corrosive reagents.
Hold your breath in that lab.
Not having that extra info is even more risky I think. RUclips come on...
If you have POCl3 you can maybe make videos about tertiary phosphines and maybe make metal complexes with them.
Things always go wrong when you try and rush things.
Mixing Celsius and Fahrenheit makes some part a bit confusing.
For ex you said 250°C was blistering hot by mixing the two at 2:42
You should stick to one or another (or continue to trigger like me for fun 😂)
Great vid as always tho
I re-listened to the section you highlighted but only heard Celsius.
Thank you for the videos, even if youtube is on some butt, we appreciate the work you do for us.
You should get yourself some pickling salt if you’re going to keep using sodium chloride in your experiments. It dissolves clear and doesn’t have additives like table salt does.
peace be upon you sir
Love your content man I hope you'll never have to reupload something like this again
Well there goes my plans for making a charcoal-peanut butter-diamond perpetual motion machine. Party pooper.
WHATS IT USED FOR DID I MISS IT ?
RUclipss abhorrent censorship is disgusting, glad to see people all over fighting it🤘
To be fair, the clip from GreatScott, he addressed in that video that it is not how it work so he did not lie.
Rewatching and giving a like this time
Full support
how are you yet NOT on Odysee??? even if it's just for a backup you'd get to keep all videos up! Fight youtube censorship with competition
@0:26 correction, you can't make perpetual motion.
Dose anyone else lean back when he put the glass in the furnace? 😱
Couldn’t you draw a vacuum to remove the moisture?
I got some sodium and potassium metal, just not sure what to do with it for views.
There are multiple overunity devices that are currently under development. The laws of physics will have to be rewritten.
Gotta love Nigel. Sad RUclips nerfed half (probably more) of his content when we was starting out.
Literaly rust smoke/vapor billowing
I wonder what industrial scale production of this is like
I already watched the first one but I'm rewatching this video to spite RUclips :)
Do you know is it possible to extract only minerals from salt?
Salt, as in Sodium Chloride?
Or "salt", as in the general chemistry term, study as Copper Sulfate?
If the latter, yes. For example, you can use the aforementioned Copper Sulfate to deposit copper onto another metal.
I've done it by dissolving copper in hydrogen chloride, with the help of a little H2O2 (just generation purpose 3% strength), which makes CuCl2 [Copper(ii) Chloride]. Then heat that solution up and dip your metal in it, swirl it around, and watch it become copper plated.
_(note: chemical plating isn't quite as good as electro plating, but you can combine the two methods for better results)_
I hope this one satifies the draconian bots
I'm really sorry you had trouble with censorship.
The yellowish substance might have contained lithium phosphide?
YT is afraid chemistry and pipes will start showing up at their HQ Is my guess as to why they are now censoring chem vids.
As simple as this all sounds, chemistry in high school was over my head, so , at 5:11 on the clock I surrender and pass on the experiment. 🤪
casts: corrosive snowstorm
What chemicals will disolve the lab glassware?
Hot phosphoric acid can etch glassware, although my flask was etched by hot sodium hydroxide iirc.
@@LabCoatz_Science I mean, like, melt a hole through the bottom of a flask.
Nothing is indestructible, right?
Or what temperature would ignite a beaker in a (almost) pure oxygen environment?
(random ideas for future videos, but I'm also curious)
Just to spite the video_site_you_shall_not_name_in_vain, i subbed.
Lol no, good stuff. I watched the first video when it came out but forgot to click the button (thank ADD for that).
Due to the fact that TY removed the information telling me what this chemical could do to me i have no idea its danger.
Maybe i should do this at home.
RUclips put me in danger by determining the capacity of information i recieve stopping just short of the warnings that might deter me from doing this.
Isn’t this the primary ingredient in serine gas?
If you mean sarin, than you might be thinking of methylphosphonyl dichloride (basically phosphoryl chloride but with a methyl group in place of one of the chlorines). Phosphoryl chloride can be used to make similar organophosphates though, although I don't know of any notable ones off the top of my head.
Before I watched the whole video I thought that the reason for censoring would be the fact that POCl3 is a known precursor to one of the n3rve agents, namely the first one synthesized by Schrader. Despite being extremely useful in laboratory and common in industry both PCl3 and POCl3 always raise suspicions. It's weird that yt demonetised the video because photo from ER. Likely it's the AI, but much worse content is floating around on yt for years without any restrictions.
does watching the whole video on 10x count as full watchtime?