Angel Island migrants changed names after 1906 earthquake destroyed birth records

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @igglewiggle6649
    @igglewiggle6649 5 месяцев назад +8

    Paper sons and daughters is not unique to SAN Francisco, CA., I am Chinese Canadian and worked with a woman who has my family name, but she told me that her grandfather came to Canada from China using paper son documents to immigrate illegally. He won the document gambling. The paper son/daughter system remained through into early 1950. It wasn’t until immigration restrictions loosened that there was no longer a need for paper sons and daughters. In countries where Chinese had very limited opportunities to immigrate is where paper son/daughter document system existed.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 5 месяцев назад

      The practice became widespread after the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire, which destroyed many municipal records. In the absence of records, many Chinese immigrants claimed that they were born in the U.S. or had children who were born in the U.S.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 4 месяца назад

      Immigration Hall in Vancouver, British Columbia?

  • @jordyb57
    @jordyb57 5 месяцев назад +20

    “The assumption that the immigrant was lying” …. she WAS lying 😂

    • @punapeter
      @punapeter 5 месяцев назад

      everyone does just like you

    • @queenbeemoon10
      @queenbeemoon10 5 месяцев назад

      so true hahaha

  • @malcriadamedina5358
    @malcriadamedina5358 5 месяцев назад +5

    These people are the same ones who will protest immigrants today

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 5 месяцев назад +1

      That is incorrect. These paper sons and daughters are no longer alive. We, the descendants, are not protesting immigrants today.

  • @XetaXones
    @XetaXones 5 месяцев назад +5

    So basically being a criminal gets special privileges.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 5 месяцев назад

      No, these immigrants do not get special privileges.

  • @RollerBladingSuxs
    @RollerBladingSuxs 5 месяцев назад +8

    We don’t claim her on behalf of the AAPI

    • @nunyadambusiness3530
      @nunyadambusiness3530 5 месяцев назад +3

      We do. Citizenship by birth in the United States is specified in the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. The relevant part is the Citizenship Clause, which is found in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. It states:
      All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
      This clause establishes that anyone including the descendants born on U.S. soil, or naturalized, and subject to its jurisdiction is a citizen of the United States.
      Descendants count. regardless of your fascist beliefs.

    • @loualbino5536
      @loualbino5536 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@nunyadambusiness3530 There's an allegiance clause in the 14th amendment that people like you love to ignore.

    • @punapeter
      @punapeter 5 месяцев назад

      get an education or YOU can be deported

    • @diegoquezada3193
      @diegoquezada3193 5 месяцев назад

      @@loualbino5536 Could you explain this allegiance clause?

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 4 месяца назад +1

      @@diegoquezada3193 The "allegiance clause" refers to the specific part of the amendment that deals with citizenship. This clause is found in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, which states:
      _All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside._
      This clause establishes the principle of _jus soli_ (right of the soil), meaning that anyone born on U.S. soil is automatically a U.S. citizen, provided they are subject to U.S. jurisdiction (i.e., not born to foreign diplomats or enemy soldiers during an occupation). It also covers those who are naturalized citizens, ensuring they have the same rights as those born in the U.S. The allegiance clause is significant because it guarantees citizenship to former slaves and their descendants, as well as to anyone else born on U.S. soil, thus overruling the Supreme Court's _Dred Scott_ decision (1857), which had held that African Americans could not be citizens.

  • @punapeter
    @punapeter 5 месяцев назад +2

    When my great grandparent immigrated to SF Calif. from Ohio in the 1800's there wasn't any immigration services.
    My great grandpa carried my 6 mo. old grandma in his arms out of their rocking house. This was all after 10 generations across america from Ohio, NY and Conn. in the late 1600's and 1700's. Got to Calif. as a 49ers in the middle 1800's.

    • @sallymoen7932
      @sallymoen7932 5 месяцев назад

      Wow, great story. It's remarkable what our ancestors lived through.

    • @punapeter
      @punapeter 5 месяцев назад

      @@sallymoen7932 My grandmother, S.F. Earthquake 06', WWI, the Spanish Flu, The Great Depression, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam when I was a young hippy, was a widow when my mom was 15, so a single working mom in the 40's.
      Was a book keeper for a paper co. Paid CASH for her NEW Chevy every 5 years, because she SAVED up for them. Weekly bank DEPOSITS.
      Live to 90 in her little house in the City, by herself, so when we got to go spend the weekend to get away from 8 kids it was a special treat.
      She died a millionaire after being a world traveler.
      I follow her example.
      "I find it wholesome to be alone the greater part of the time. To be in company, even with the best, is soon wearisome and dissipating. I love to be alone. I never found the companion that was so companionable as solitude." HDT

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 5 месяцев назад

      If your ancestor was processed at Angel Island Immigration Station, all their records are permanently housed in the United States Archive in San Bruno, California. My paternal grandparents immigrated through AIIS in 1920. Immigration to the United States at the time was primarily handled by the United States Department of Labor. Specifically, the Bureau of Immigration within the Department of Labor was responsible for overseeing immigration and enforcing immigration laws. One of my distant relatives found a 175-page file of my paternal grandmother when she was detained at AIIS in i920 and a second time in 1926 when she re-entered the country. In the file were the interrogation questions and her answers detailing information about her herself, including village details, family history, and daily life. He was able to bring a scanner and scan all 175 pages into a digital file.
      My grandfather was able to immigrate because Chinese merchants and their family members were allowed to enter the U.S. under an exemption from the Chinese Exclusion Act.

  • @TheBostricano
    @TheBostricano 5 месяцев назад +9

    Wait...so she lied.
    Im not celebrating a life based on lies

  • @rr7firefly
    @rr7firefly Месяц назад

    To this day there are many overcrowded buildings in Chinatown (SF) with tiny one-person rooms. I was documenting a multi-story building next to one of them and I could see many of those rooms from my vantage point. Typically each small room (perhaps 7 feet long by 5 feet wide) had enough room for a single bed and a small lavatory. Each room piled high with personal belongings, other things hanging from an overhead cord. A single bare bulb on the ceiling.

  • @kat8838
    @kat8838 5 месяцев назад

    They couldn’t have been that poor to afford thirty grand per person. How did the kids live with no parents here?

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 4 месяца назад

      It was $1,800 in 1925 for one particular person. The cost varied from person to person. The children did not immigrate alone. They came with parents who were also immigrating along with them.

  • @sunshinerockstar9137
    @sunshinerockstar9137 5 месяцев назад +5

    Not citizens decendants either

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 5 месяцев назад +5

      Citizenship by birth in the United States is specified in the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. The relevant part is the Citizenship Clause, which is found in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. It states:
      _All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside._
      This clause establishes that anyone including the descendants born on U.S. soil, or naturalized, and subject to its jurisdiction is a citizen of the United States.

    • @sunshinerockstar9137
      @sunshinerockstar9137 5 месяцев назад

      @@RaymondHng bla bla bla rule of " law " is a joke now . Thanks to the left. . So yeah deport them ! They shouldn't have Rights . My country has fought enough ! So unless these so called citizens are paying double tax and not allowed to vote . As their " citizenship " is based on criminal deceit its only fair they be treated if allowed to remain as second class double tax paying servants to the system their families fraudulently entered.

    • @loualbino5536
      @loualbino5536 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@RaymondHngDid you forget the allegiance clause of the 14th amendment? That part alone is the reason people like you don't want the current supreme court to hear the case. Explain to me how an illegal be charged with treason?

    • @punapeter
      @punapeter 5 месяцев назад

      you aren't educated are you

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 4 месяца назад

      @@sunshinerockstar9137 This is my country as well and I pay my taxes just like anyone else. I've been paying taxes longer than you have been alive. We cannot be deported. We are not citizens of the People's Republic of China. We descendants are natural-born United States citizens. Our ancestors who came into the U.S. under an assumed name are no longer alive. We are recognizing the racial discriminatory law that was passed by a racist government due to anti-Chinese sentiment in 1892. We are recognizing that racism does not get complete eradicated. It is driven underground. And then it reappears in another form of racism with the anti-Chinese sentiment that is a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. History repeats itself. It must not be forgotten.

  • @RaymondHng
    @RaymondHng 4 месяца назад

    My late father is a paper son, but he was able to obtain the birth certificate of a person with the same surname, so he kept the family name.

  • @RaymondHng
    @RaymondHng 4 месяца назад

    3:38 That's Cypress Lawn Memorial Park in Colma (near San Francisco), California.

  • @Bobbyxhuggy
    @Bobbyxhuggy 18 дней назад

    And these are your native Americans

  • @PrincessCashmonie
    @PrincessCashmonie 5 месяцев назад

    Why does this matter now?

    • @chairmanofthebored8684
      @chairmanofthebored8684 5 месяцев назад

      Why wouldn't it matter, ever?

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 4 месяца назад

      It's an explanation to the descendants who discover their American surname does not match their Chinese family name.
      Angel Island Immigration Station serves not only as a living landmark for experiences of detention, of racism, and of exclusion, but also of hope and determination. It serves as a reminder of the Chinese Exclusion Act that wrongfully banned immigration to a specific group of people and how they got around it.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 2 месяца назад

      Racial discrimination laws against Chinese people existed back then and exist today. In the state of Florida, SB 264 was signed into law in 2023 that prohibits Chinese nationals from purchasing real property in the state.

  • @sallymoen7932
    @sallymoen7932 5 месяцев назад +1

    I like the reporting of this story. Well done.
    There is a fictionalized telling of a Chinese immigrant passing through Angel Island, before getting into the US and living in San Francisco, in the tv series Warrior. I believe the year was 1880. There's alot more to it than that, but the first episode does cover how someone would enter the US through the west coast portal.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 5 месяцев назад

      The three seasons of _Warrior_ can be streamed on Max.

  • @carriefox1146
    @carriefox1146 5 месяцев назад +3

    Wow, incredible story.

  • @visibletoa11userz
    @visibletoa11userz 5 месяцев назад +2

    Lowe family ❤

  • @julioguevara1188
    @julioguevara1188 5 месяцев назад

    same time Ellis island,for white European was ok to get in without visa

  • @TheTrueOnyxRose
    @TheTrueOnyxRose 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wow

  • @fallenbeforefiona9000
    @fallenbeforefiona9000 5 месяцев назад

    Identity theft