Who are the Greatest Living Baseball, Football, Basketball & Hockey Players? | The Rich Eisen Show
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Dark horse: Ichiro Suzuki. Only one that's a Hall of Famer in two countries. His rookie season is an all-time great season.
There's many players in 2 hof from 2 different countries. Just FYI, Canada has a baseball HOF
There are others that are in multiple national halls of fame. For example, Larry Walker is in the National BBHOF and also in the Canadian Baseball HOF.
Gretzky, Jordan, Bonds, Lawrence Taylor
Brady
@@aidenrogatz8071LeSean McCoy
I agree with LT
Brady and Hank Aaron. No debate.
@@domdela5217 Hate to be the one to break this to you but Hank Aaron is dead.
How is Pujols not mentioned?
3384 Hits (top 10 all time)
703 Home Runs (4th all time)
6211 Total Bases (2nd all time)
Career .296 batting average
3x MVP
2x World Series Champ
With the history of baseball, I feel that the title of greatest living ballplayer should go to a person in their 60’s or older. Gives them one last bit of fame. Pujols just retired recently, and will probably have to deal with Bonds and Griffey Jr. for that title.
Cards fan here and huge Albert fan but nah. Have to go with Barry Bonds.
I agree man. Albert was a stud. He easily had 3 or 4 other MVP type seasons if it weren't for one hit wonders and Bonds. The problem with Albert and Griffey Jr was the second half of their careers were less memorable. They have the career stats but they don't have the stand out MVP quality seasons in their last 10 years that they had in their first 10 years. No body remembers Griffey's seasons in Cincinnati. If it wasn't only 2 years ago people wouldn't remember Albert's years in Anaheim either. Mike Trout will be another. Bonds is the exact opposite.
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possible steroid user
Nolan Ryan? 27years. All time strikes. 7 no hitters?
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Agree hard to compare hitters and pitchers but he was dominant
Never won a single cy young he’s not even in the Convo
@@andrewwatson8591 so you don’t think he was ever robbed and should have won one? There’s several years you could argue he should have won. He’s all time strike out leader by 2k! If you don’t think he’s not in the argument than you don’t know baseball
@@andrewwatson8591 While true, this is not a good take. 1973, 74 and 77 Nolan was absolutely robbed of the Cy Young. Dude literally owns 10% of the spots on the all time single season strike out list top 50. 6 times, SIX times he surpassed 300 K's, that's utterly bananas.
Wayne Gretzky would probably say Bobby Orr is the greatest hockey player still alive so you got to give him some love. I'm a Pens fan, so Mario is up there, but I'd still say Gretzky.
How about best duo? Gretzky & Messier vs Mario & Jager? Any better? Wings had some good ones even when Federov was newer to the NHL with Stevie Y or even Ron Francies and SY.
My memory fails me so I may have names off.
@@chrissinclair4442 That's another great conversation. Don't forget about Forsberg and Sakic. You can go in so many ways with that. Marleau and Thornton were a great duo too.
@@eric_day84 there were so many great players from that time that people seem to forget like Peter Forsberg & Dominik Hasek. I don't know if it was a CIA plot or what. They would even start to preempt the NHL all-star game for things like Miami OH vs Columbus college basketball. NHL seems like it might finally be slowly recovering. Since Leslie Wexner was head of Mossad in North America and lived in Columbus OH (also the child abduction capital of the USA at that time), I wonder what happened?
@@chrissinclair4442 -- Brett Hull and Adams Oates were brilliant together. o
Lifelong Bruins fan, for 8 years, when healthy, Orr was the best But the totality of Gretzky's career gives it to him. I saw both, best forward and defensemen for sure.
Tom Brady, Barry Bonds, Wayne Gretzky and Michael Jordan
@@fml5910 Nolan Ryan? I'm pretty sure a few Cy Young awards are important.
@@fml5910 No hitters are a fluke. There are pitchers with a dozen 1 hitters that pitched just as well. No hitters are like hole-in-ones in golf.
@@fml5910 I've seen no hitters with 7 walks. During a typical no-hitter the ball just seems to end up in someone's glove. Perfect games are a different story.
He really got beef w barry bonds lmao
And why do they only use the caveat of hs college and pros for kareem to discredit mj it's weird don't do it for any other sport
A lot of people are turned off by cheaters.
@@johng.4711 but then why say Pete Rose
@@johng.4711 I'm not disagreeing with btw
Rose never cheated by all accounts. He did bet on baseball when he was the player/manager and then Manager of the Reds. But as far as I know, it was always for them to win. None of that means his numbers were inflated. Hence why Rich can choose him.
The thing most people don't bring up was that almost everyone was on the juice during Bonds days!
most people don’t bring it up? The time period that’s popularly known as the “Steroid Era”? How are you saying that no one brings that up 😂
Nobody is further from the 2nd best in their sports statistically than Jerry Rice and Wayne Gretzky.
I'm in my early 50's just like Rich, I've loved baseball for over 45 years, and if I'm being completely honest with myself, I've never seen a better baseball player than Shohei Ohtani. And I've seen ALL the greats that played for the better part of the past 5 decades.
Losing Mays and Jim Brown has me feeling older. Kaline was my favorite player growing up, but Mays and Brown were just the best ever and I was fortunate enough to meet Brown and my father met Willie Mays. Plus, Willie had the same birthday as my mom and both died in the last year. My mom was 98.
Albert Pujols is the best baseball player I've ever seen. Born in 1990, the 2000 Subway Series is the first baseball I remember (only saw the last 2 or 3 years of Bonds career). I saw Pujols' entire career, he was nicknamed "The Machine" for a reason
I can't argue with Bonds. But to throw out another one that may get overlooked...Ichiro??
For greatest player still alive? He should get overlooked. He was a unique player, and a fun player to watch, but greatest? Not even close.
@@joellahrman4557 I'd take Ichiro over Pete Rose.
@@MarcusParisian I'd take quite a few players over Rose.
Gretzky [ no debate ], Jordan [ Kareem ], Brady, [LT] & Bench [ greatest all time at the most difficult position to play ] [ Schmidt probably greatest 3B ever ]
No way you can't include Albert Pujols
How about this name for greatest living baseball player: Greg Maddux? Yes, Barry Bonds' numbers are beyond question, except for the obvious one. And that's what brings me back to Maddux, who excelled as a pitcher in the middle of the steroid era. Besides pitching, he was an outstanding fielder with 18 Gold Gloves, which is the most of anybody in any position.
Rickey Henderson.
Not even a passing mention of Nolan Ryan?
- 5714 strikeouts
- 7 no hitters / 12 one-hitters
- 314 wins despite largely playing
for mediocre teams.
- 11x strikeout leader
- clocked at 100 mph even in his
final year.
- 27 seasons / played till he was
46
- beat the tar out of Robin Ventura
Rougned Odor won a fight too, who cares? There are at least five living *pitchers* greater than Nolan Ryan: Koufax, Clemens, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, and Pedro. You voting Brett Favre as greatest living football player, too?
The case for Rose is bolstered when you consider that, in addition to all his stats, he played FIVE different positions for at least four years each and won 2 gold gloves.
Bonds, Brady, Jordan, Greski
Ichiro
That’s who I thought of as soon as they mentioned Rose
My vote as well we’ve never seen anyone like him
YES, THANK YOU
I'd take Ichiro or Rickey before Pete.
Excatly, these guys are bunch of nostalgia merchants. If you gonna pick a guy for hitting the ball then Ichiro is the correct choice. But he picked a typical hillbilly white guy from the 60s era because that’s who he sees himself as
Rickey Henderson was amazing and was number 2 after Willie Mays for me. That us not forget Bo Jackson.
Pete Rose? Bench was better Schmidt cal ripken Reggie Griffey pujols
Barry Bonds, with or without steroids, is the greatest living baseball player.
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Only because of Bo Jackson's hip.
Only with steroids stop it Griffey was better pre Roids as were a lot of all time players now Roided up Bonds was another level for sure but without them he would have struggled in his late 30s
Ken Griffey jr for me. Homeruns, gold gloves, batting titles. The guy was unbelievable. And he was hurt a bunch in his career.
Jordan, Bonds/Griffey, Gretzky, Rice
Nolan Ryan (no competition), Tom Brady/Lawrence Taylor, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan/Dominique Wilkins/Larry Bird, Jimmy Connors
Jordan, Gretzky, Rice, Randy Johnson
Rich scoffing at Barry Bonds is mind boggling to me. He’s literally the greatest player of all time, but the media, the Hall and the MLB have all shunned him, but you can’t deny that man was the greatest
Ricky Henderson reminds everyone that Ricky Henderson stole a lot of bases and hit a lot. He's the "logo" for lead off hitter
Chris Brockman hits the nail right on the head. He got all 4 right.
Gretzky, Jordan, Brady and Bonds.
People choosing anyone over Bonds as the greatest living baseball player... are kidding themselves.
Ken Griffey Jr. was maybe the greatest 5 tool player aside from Mays and had such a big impact on the game. He was also robbed of being the first unanimous vote into the hall
The disrespect shown towards Ruth is insane. I know it was a completely different dead ball era, with unhealthy players, weird rules, and certain players were plumbers but nobody during that time even came close to Ruth. He was overweight, drunk all the time, and smoked and he still hit 715 home runs, in the dead ball era. Sorry bonds, Ruth is better. Idk why people forgot about Ruth.
It's recency bias mainly. That and it's commonly believed that today's athletes are more talented than the ones from Ruth's era. All around. Meaning the pitchers are harder to hit off of. The hitter are tougher to get out. The further you go back? It's believed the skill level to be great in your sport was less.
But, I'm not saying I don't agree with you on "The Babe." He was a different animal, and in an era when nobody really came close to him other than Lou Gehrig, and Jimmy Foxx in the same playing era, and even they were still pretty far behind him statistically. I would love to know what Babe Ruth could do if he had played in let's say the 50's through the 70's? Or the 80's and 90's with their level of pitching throughout the entire league. I am pretty sure he would still have been as great as he was although there was a lot more harmful things he could have been putting in his body in those eras than he did in his own. I just think he was a tortured soul who coped by being messed up all the time. He died at a young age because of it.
Eliminating Bonds from the conversation is absolutely ridiculous.
Jordan, Gretzky, Rice and Rickey Henderson.
Bonds, Gretzky/Orr, Kareem/Jordan/LeBron, LT/Montana/Rice/Manning/Brady.
Johnny Bench. Highest WAR at the catcher position.
Gretzky, Bonds, Jordan, Brady. Not only the best alive but the best to ever do it. I’ll give Bonds an asterisk for Nolan Ryan.
imagine actually thinking barry bonds is the best living baseball player ever 😂
Ozzie Smith, Gretzy, Jordan, Rice/ Brady
Bonds is the goat and i love me some other players but with all due respect it isnt close.
Reluctantly Barry Bonds but if Ohtani has another 10 years like the last few, he is it. For Basketball, Michael Jordan with Kareem an honorable mention. For Football, Tom Brady #1, with Jim Brown and Jerry Rice honorable mentions. Hockey is Wayne Gretzky, with Bobby Orr and Mario Lemieux honorable mentions.
Yup. That's my list to right there. As much as I want to be a Homer, that's the current Mt. Rushmore of the 4 major sports.
@@LARSONnine I'm 69 so was lucky to start watching sports since the mid 60s, Willie Mays, at his peak, was the best all around player in any sport for me, he was there when I first fell in love with baseball. Gretsky was as dominate as MJ, Brady by far the most accomplshed football player. There is always someone worth watching, today it is the Celtics victory parade. Life is good.
Jim Brown is dead. Sorry to break the news to you. But he passed away recently.
There is a conversation for hockey. Bobby Orr.
Jordan, Gretzky, Brady, Maddux
Finally, someone smart enough to pick a pitcher who *didn't* walk 100+ batters every year.
It’s obviously bonds
Bonds didn’t play defense. But he was the most imposing hitter I’ve ever seen.
You can take away 200 homeruns for the bonds steroid controversy but you gotta give some back for all the juiced pitchers who he faced. He leads on BB's too. Nobody wanted to pitch to him and he STILL has the record. In his younger years he was a beast in the outfield too. If you really think hes not HoF worthy you're a fool.
Brett, Schmidt, Bench, Junior, Ichiro…
Damn good list. Yastremzki, Tom Seaver, Steve Carlton, Rod Carew, Reggie Jackson, Sandy Koufax, Greg Maddux, Jim Thome, and Randy Johnson. All great all-time great level players not attached to cheating that are still around. I loved your George Brett, and Mike Schmidt picks though! Completely forgot about both of those aging legends that we are still blessed to have around currently!
Jim Palmer.. 20 plus wins for 8 years....most of any living pitcher
I am not saying he’s the greatest but if you want to say Reggie is up there then I don’t think you can dismiss Schmidt so easily
Sorry I know many will disagree:
Football: Peyton Manning
Basketball: LeBron James
Baseball: Ichiro Suzuki
Hockey: The Great One
Soccer: Messi
Bobby Orr is also still alive as well and goes toe to toe with Gretzky
Nolan Ryan, Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky (Gordie Howe passed in 2016.).
Pete wasn't better than Griffey Jr. That's silly
Look at the number of gold gloves and silver slugger awards.
Bonds was too dirty to give that kind of respect. Only served himself at the plate...never the team.
3 from 4 My Favourites dead or Alive! ... MLB ..Tedd Williams, Nolan Ryan, Tony Gwynn ...NBA .. Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic .. NFL ..Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, Ray Lewis ...Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Jaromir Jagr. (FAVOURITES OF ALL-TIME).
Rickey Henderson, Jerry Rice, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky
Most of you never saw Orr play. He was a marvel on the ice. He was a groundbreaking defenseman. In stats similar to Gretzky, in terms of percentage over the previous record, a baseball player would have to hit 1500 homes runs to match Orr's record for defenseman scoring in a season.
Wayne Gretzky is the greatest North American team sport athlete period. The gap between him and whoever is #2 is larger than #1 to #2 in any other sport.
Yup, and it’s not even close.
3rd behind Brady and MJ the Oilers won a Stanley Cup 2 years after trading him
@@davis2k1234 So?
@@staubach1979rt There are other super stars that won more the his 4 Cups including his teammate Messier who won 2 more without him that’s why I would put MJ and Brady about him put him at 3rd all time in North American sports
@@davis2k1234 Henri Richard won 11. Is he better than Gretzky?
It’s not Barry Bonds.
Lawrence Taylor. Mike Bossy. John Stockton. Mariano Rivera.
Mike Bossy passed in April 2022.
Gretzky, Jordan, Brady.. I don't know baseball ⚾ too much.
Football, hockey, Tennis, golf and basketball are easy it's Brady, Gretzky, Djokovic, Nicklaus, and Jordan but with baseball it gets a little complicated alot of the greatest have passed away and there are steroids scandals but the best pitcher I've ever seen in Roger Clemons, and the best hitter Barry Bonds
Clemons over Ryan or Randy is crazy
@@zsefton Clemons had a more wins, more all star selections, more CY Young awards, more world series championships, and a better ERA than either of them
Have you guys never heard of Bobby Orr? Also, how could you forget about Nolan Ryan?
Orr
Rice
Koufax
Jabbar
Waybe Gretsky's stats are insane. There is no one close in any of the major team sports who is far away ahead of all the others.
100%
So are Wayne Gretzky's
@@proto-geek248 Funny.
PLOT TWIST: Bo Jackson.
Jeter? How can Chris say Pete Rose’s stats and not say he’s the all time hit leader.
Barry Bonds
Lawrence Taylor
Micheal Jordan
Wayne Gretsky
Mike Schmidt, Tom Brady, Wayne Gretzky, and Michael Jordan. ⚾️🏈🏒🏀
Ichiro gets no mention?
LoL
For hockey, it's easy. It's Wayne Gretzky.
For basketball, It's also easy. It's Michael Jordan.
For football, it's not so easy, but I'll go with Jerry Rice.
For baseball, there are so many to choose, but I'll go with Pete Rose, but after he goes, it's Albert Pujols.
Gretzky, Bonds, Jordan, Rice…….. Messi
Bonds was juiced and yes the 73 home runs were nuts.. but bonds was still really good without roids too
Yeah bonds is accurate
I mean, there will always be GOAT debates…but Gretzky is universal and unarguable…
There are 3 things in life that I'm convinced are the greatest of all time, and I don't foresee anyone overtaking them:
Gretzky
Jordan
The Beatles
I feel like baseball and football have too many varied positions to claim the greatest. I'd have to say best pitcher, best QB etc. Even then, it gets pretty damn complicated. For QB, Brady is the most accomplished, Montana may be the most reliable, but if I had to pick one in their early prime to build a team around, I'd take Peyton Manning.
For baseball, I actually like the Pete Rose pick. He wouldn't be my first choice, or perhaps even top 10, but he was absolutely a baller. The kind of guy you wished everyone played like.
For living, just to make the calls, I'd go Rice for NFL and Ripken for MLB (bias there, go Baltimore)
I'm a dodgers fan, so it kills my to say, but it's no debate, it's Barry bonds
What about Rickey Henderson?
Rickey Henderson? Jerry Rice. Larry Bird? Probably gotta be MJ, right?
If Kareem beats Jordan, then Orr beats Gretzky. There was no one like Orr
Rickey says it's Rickey Henderson
Let’s be real about Bonds-he was a hall of fame player before the juice(which he NEVER FAILED A DRUG TEST FOR BTW)
Never failed a drug test because he was literally funding the f*cking laboratories that were creating newer types of Juice for him that could cheat the tests. This is something you can research for yourself if you would like? This is known. Bonds didn't just juice. He fuc*ing juiced on another sly level and did it with no intentions of anyone ever being able to find out he juiced at all, and he almost got away with it. That's the craziest thing. He almost got away with it, and would have been the only anomaly in all of MLB history who started hitting more home runs, for better average, RBI, and all offensive statistics other than stolen bases. The guy is a Mark. Anyone thinking that he's the greatest ever in baseball history? Is a Mark as well.
Ironic Rich doesn’t like the steroid era players but loves his Michigan Wolverines 😂
Gretzky, Jordan, Rice and Koufax. Gretzky is undoubtedly the greatest hockey player ever. Jordan is considered the best with some debate. Brady is the GOAT and Koufax had a handful of years of pure dominance, but wouldn't be considered the greatest living baseball player today.
No love for Rickey? He was the greatest offensive weapon ever. I know his D was suspect at times.. but if the point of the game is to score runs.. then I rest my case
Gretzky, Bonds, LT, and Jordan….can NOT be Rose if thinking about the total game!
What about golf and tennis, olympians , boxers ?
Pitchers: Koufax? Nolan Ryan? Greg Maddux?
Clemens, easily.
I love Gretzky and Lemieux but I would say there is a strong case for Mark Messier
ichiro?
It's Bonds, no argument.
Nolan Ryan
Its Griffey or Nolan Ryan
BEFORE he juiced, I told people Bonds was going to wind up the GOAT of MLB. Then he turned to the dark side and won’t make the hall during his lifetime.
What in the world is going on?
Griffey Jr was mentioned in passing at the outset…did nobody hear it or is this the highest level, collective brain fart I’ve ever witnessed?
It’s Jr! 5 Tools!
Choosing kareem because of effing high school is insane.
Only Kareem was considered the greatest high school, college, and pro player ever.
@@stingrey1571 but nobody cares
@@cubsbearsandbullsWrong
Kareem & MJ 🏀
Jerry Rice & Tom Brady 🏈
Wayne Gretzky 🏒
Griffey Jr. & Bonds ⚾️
I'm with Rich
Bonds should be in the hall.
If you're excluding Pitchers, how can it not be Griffey Jr. ? If hadn't wrecked his body with the Reds, imagine what he could have done. 630 home runs and you can say what if. And to the people arguing about Bonds, and how he was hitting off juiced pitchers. Fair, but Griffey wasn't juiced, and he was hitting off those same pitchers. And he aged the way athletes were supposed to at that time. He might have hit 800 homeruns if he cheated to come back from injury faster. The roids extended careers which obviously helped with the counting numbers. Bonds was impressive, and off to an all-time pace before the juice, but there is a reason he took it. The second half of his career is marred, and Jr.'s is not. It's that simple. Other players in consideration: Pete Rose, Reggie Jackson, Ozzy Smith, Koufax, and Maddux. And if you're talking the person who dominated their position more than any other player dominated their own; Mariano Riviera deserves some respect.