Tales From The Territories - WWWF Capitol Wrestling Corp. - Full Episode 7/30

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    The National Wrestling Alliance recognized an undisputed NWA World Heavyweight Champion that went to several different professional wrestling promotions across the globe.
    The NWA generally promoted strong shooters as champions, to give their sport credibility and guard against double-crosses.
    While doing strong business in the Midwest, these wrestlers attracted little interest along the eastern seaboard in the Capitol Wrestling Corporation territory.
    and to top it off In November 1954, Jess McMahon passed away.
    The 1927 Evening News Described Jess McMahon as the greatest matchmaker and one of the first promoters to cross the “color line” by giving wrestlers of diverse cultural backgrounds equal opportunities as caucasian wrestlers. At a time of racial divide , Jess was loved and highly respected by fans of all ethnic backgrounds.
    Mondt, brought in Jess’s son Vincent James.
    The younger McMahon and Mondt were very successful and soon controlled approximately 70% of the NWA's booking, largely due to their dominance in the heavily populated Northeast region.
    In 1961, the NWA board decided to put the championship on bleach blond showman "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers, who was an effective drawing card in the region.
    The rest of the NWA was unhappy with Mondt because he rarely allowed Rogers to wrestle outside of the Northeast.
    Mondt and McMahon wanted Rogers to hold-up the physical NWA World Heavyweight title, but Rogers was unwilling to sacrifice his $25,000 deposit on the championship belt.
    championship holders at the time had to pay a deposit to insure they honored their commitments as champion
    Rogers lost the NWA World Heavyweight Championship to Lou Thesz in a one-fall match in front of 9,000 fans in Toronto, Ontario, on January 24, 1963.
    This led to Mondt, McMahon, and the Capital Wrestling Corporation leaving the NWA in protest, creating the World Wide Wrestling Federation in the process.
    In April that year, Rogers was awarded the new W.W.W.F. World Heavyweight Championship, supposedly winning a fictional tournament in Rio de Janeiro.
    He lost the championship to Bruno Sammartino a month later on May 17, 1963, after suffering a heart attack days before the match.
    To accommodate Rogers' condition, the match was booked to last under a minute.
    Notable wrestlers from this era included Haystacks Calhoun, Al Costello, "Captain" Lou Albano, Pat Barrett, "Classy" Freddie Blassie, Johnny Valentine, Bruno Sammartino, Arnold Skaaland, Lord Littlebrook and Johnny Powers.
    Bruno Sammartino would retain the title for seven years, eight months and one day, making his the longest continuous world championship reign in men's wrestling history.
    Although Sammartino was the face of the W.W.W.F, wrestlers such as Superstar Billy Graham and Bob Backlund were also hugely popular.
    The federation gained notoriety in the 1970s by holding their biggest shows at Shea Stadium or Madison Square Garden and doing strong business across the entire Northeast region
    They leveraged former, but still popular, wrestlers such as Captain Lou Albano, "Grand Wizard of Wrestling" Ernie Roth and "Classy" Freddie Blassie to act as managers for Sammartino's heel opponents. Around this time, only fan favorite wrestlers were allowed to have long championship reigns, such as Bruno Sammartino, Pedro Morales and Bob Backlund, who all retained for more than one year each.
    The heel champions, such as Ivan Koloff and Stan Stasiak, were used to "transition" the championship from one wrestler to another, and they generally kept the title for no more a single month-long program before dropping it to the next good guy.
    Superstar Billy Graham was the only heel character to keep his championship for longer than one month, as the W.W.W.F felt it needed time to build Bob Backlund up as championship material.[3]
    The W.W.W.F was relatively conservative for promotions of its day; running its major arenas monthly rather than weekly or bi-weekly.
    Programs generally involved a babyface champion facing a heel challenger for one to three meetings in each scheduled town; for longer programs the heel would often win the first match in a non-decisive manner such as a countout or via excessive blood loss.
    #TalesFromTheTerritories

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  • @OriginalWrestlingDocumentaries
    @OriginalWrestlingDocumentaries  3 года назад +5

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  • @elc1960
    @elc1960 5 лет назад +16

    WWWF actually became WWF in 1979, and then were slapped with a lawsuit by the original WWF, the World Wildlife Fund. World Wrestling Federation became WWE in early 2002 because World Wildlife Fund finally won their lawsuit, causing WWE to adopt the slogan: "WWE - Get the 'F' Out!"

  • @LaDescenteDuCoude
    @LaDescenteDuCoude 6 лет назад +29

    This serie is just AWESOME! We need more. Please NEVER stop. After the territories, should should do the titles. GREAT job. Thank you!

  • @elc1960
    @elc1960 4 года назад +7

    In the '60s and '70s, with the exception of Arnold Skaaland, the managers of WWWF were all heels. They included: Bobby Davis, Wild Red Berry, Tony Angelo, Lou Albano, The Grand Wizard, Fred Blassie, Nikita Mulkovitch, and for a very short time Dr. Jerry Graham.

  • @tgfabthunderbird1
    @tgfabthunderbird1 6 лет назад +8

    I'm enjoying these videos; thank you for them!

  • @diggitydave75438
    @diggitydave75438 6 лет назад +23

    In the 1970's Andre The Giant did not really work that much for the WWWF. Vince Sr. would use him as more of a bartering chip with other promoters either for cash or talent. He did this because after a couple weeks straight of seeing Andre dominate, fans would tire of the gimmick. So Vince Sr. booked Andre in the various NWA territories around the world ad well as the AWA. During the 1970's Andre hardly stayed in one place for a long lenth of time. As for Bob Backlund, Vince Sr. acquired him from Eddie Graham, as Backlund was working down in Championship Wrestling from Florida. Vince Sr. felt that he had made all he could using the "immigrant babyface" style of performer as the WWWF World Heavyweight Champion and face of the company, so he decided to go with an "All-American" looking style babyface as the future of the company. Eddie Graham tried to convince him to take Steve Keirn (who would eventually be a member of the legendary Fabulous Ones tag team with Stane Lane in Memphis as well as The Skinner in the WWF) instead, but Vince Sr wanted Backlund. Graham bet Vince Sr he wouldn't be able to draw a dime with the bland Backlund, but Vince Sr won that bet. Vince Sr. was originally going to sell the WWF to Gorilla Monsoon and his Capital Sports Promotions partners, who also started the World Wrestling Council promotion in Puerto Rico that Carlos Colon Sr. made famous. Vince Jr convinced his father to sell the WWF to him and his Titan Sports Corporation instead on credit, because he could not afford to buy the promotion. Vince Sr also told Vince Jr to not infringe on the other NWA territories and the deals he had made over the last 30 years. Vince Jr said he would not go back on the deals his father had made, but we all know how that worked out.

    • @daydaymc5942
      @daydaymc5942 6 лет назад +2

      That's what made Wwe today

    • @wednesdayoverall9021
      @wednesdayoverall9021 6 лет назад +3

      Andre made his Northeast/WWWF/NWA debut on October 22, 1972 teaming with the WWWF champion against the WWWF tag champions. 269 matches for WWWF between 1973-1979 isn't exactly 'rarely', but yes, he was booked all around the country and the world by Vince McMahon Sr. in New York.

    • @wednesdayoverall9021
      @wednesdayoverall9021 6 лет назад +4

      Vince "Jr" kept all the deals, except with Verne and the AWA, which his father didn't have any deals with (other than once years prior with Pedro as champ getting a Denver date, and Verne getting a MSG one). When "Sr" fired Hogan, he went to AWA with the name Vince gave him. Crockett crossed him. Every other promoter that "Sr" was friendly with got treated fairly by "Jr": Hart, Owens, LaBell, Graham, Gulas, Barnett, Farhat, Boesch, etc, etc Hell, Vince didn't even move into St. Louis until Munchick retired. Same with Shire in San Fran and Farhat in Ohio.

    • @wednesdayoverall9021
      @wednesdayoverall9021 6 лет назад

      He didn't buy the company on credit. He purchased the partner's shares, and had one year to purchase his father's (that he stood to inherit anyway).

  • @michaelbreen7865
    @michaelbreen7865 Год назад +1

    Five years later (after this video was uploaded,) Vince Jr.'s daughter Stephanie is Chairwoman and Co-CEO of WWE, while her husband, some guy named Paul, is head of Creative, Talent Relations, and Chief Content Officer.

  • @MetalBacon64
    @MetalBacon64 6 лет назад +3

    I'm liking these videos man good job!
    Sometimes the music can be a bit too loud, but overall great work.

  • @JLvatron
    @JLvatron 2 года назад +2

    Great video! I'm surprised McMahon hasn't censored WWWF to be re-dubbed WWW "E", lol!

    • @chriskay1449
      @chriskay1449 2 года назад +1

      Because he doesn't have to. With WWF he has to because of of the lawsuit they lost to the World Wildlife Fund.

    • @JLvatron
      @JLvatron 2 года назад +2

      @@chriskay1449 Yah, I know that, I was being funny.
      It's just that McMannequin is so crazy with his censoring, that he might as well censor the previous company names too, lol!

  • @mr.mirchenstein6549
    @mr.mirchenstein6549 4 года назад +8

    People always say that Vince will probably die sitting at gorilla position, or working on something with WWE...It's pretty crazy that's how his grand father died too

  • @northcaladonia687
    @northcaladonia687 6 лет назад +8

    Jess Mcmahon -"greatest matchmaker
    Tall, Stately and Handsome"
    - thats some biased 1950s journalism at work

    • @kevinlynn2456
      @kevinlynn2456 5 лет назад +4

      I don't understand why vince didn't inducted his grandfather into the hall of fame? He founded the company and if it wasn't for his grandfather wwe won't be around.

    • @mranonymous3921
      @mranonymous3921 4 года назад +1

      @@kevinlynn2456 he didnt even induct his father yet

    • @green_was_taken
      @green_was_taken 4 года назад +1

      @@mranonymous3921 Shane inducted vince Sr in 1996.

  • @elc1960
    @elc1960 5 лет назад +2

    Slight issue here: The Grand Wizard was never a wrestler. He started as a TV commentator in Ohio, then became manager J. Wellington Radcliffe for Magnificent Maurice and Handsome Johnny Barend in the pre-WWWF Capitol Wrestling promotion. Then (using the name Abdullah Farouk) he managed the Sheik, then he returned to WWWF as the Wizard in 1970 and managed Blackjack Mulligan.

  • @mikeledger2614
    @mikeledger2614 4 года назад +4

    Generic background music samples TOO LOUD....

  • @newgondiwatergate
    @newgondiwatergate 6 лет назад +1

    Some of the facts were a little off. However I am about to subscribe. Keep em coming. Stampede, The Amarillo Territory etc.

  • @djchino774
    @djchino774 5 лет назад +3

    Great info but that music is annoyingly loud.

  • @goergeruth8001
    @goergeruth8001 6 лет назад +1

    Great video ! Very educational and I love the history of pro wrestling . Love to see big time wrestling with promoter Roy Scheider

  • @mr.mirchenstein6549
    @mr.mirchenstein6549 4 года назад +1

    I love these documentaries!

  • @elc1960
    @elc1960 4 года назад +2

    That photo you show of The Mongols (at 6:31) is not the same team that worked in WWWF from 1969-1971 (Beppo, aka Nikolai Volkoff, and Geeto, aka Newton Tattrie). You have the 1972-1975 Mongols (Tattrie, kneeling on the right, with Bolo, standing, who was Bill Eadie, the later Masked Superstar and Axe of Demolition).

  • @Kayfabe-226
    @Kayfabe-226 6 лет назад +6

    I like this series but the background music is distracting at times...

  • @madamefeast4824
    @madamefeast4824 3 года назад

    I was born in 84 in Scranton PA and grew up on late 80s/90s WWF. I wish I went to more shows. I used to go to local shows at like the CYC and other local places with my dad in 1993-1996. I saw Bret Hart, Luger, Undertaker, Yokozuna, Razor Ramon (Scott Hall), Ludwig Bordga, Atom Bomb, 1-2-3 Kid (X pac), Hunter Hurst Helmsey (Triple H) IRS, Shawn Michaels, Men on a Mission, Bushwhackers, Tatanka, Backlund, etc. Great times. I wish I was able to see shows a bit earlier though. Curt Hennig, Rick Rude, Jake the Snake, Big Boss Man, Ultimate Warrior, Rick the Model Martel, Macho Man Randy Savage, Roddy Piper, Bobby Heenan etc. If I was born a few years earlier...

  • @Sevenigma777
    @Sevenigma777 2 года назад

    I love that Backlund had the spell check line under it lol

  • @Cre8Lounge
    @Cre8Lounge 4 года назад +2

    Music is too loud

  • @firetype4life
    @firetype4life 6 лет назад +3

    I really hope someone can help answer the questions I have about this. So in the WWE 50 book and the WWE Championship book, it is said that Vince McMahon Sr. battled with Toots Mondt for Northeast supremacy and then later shocked everyone when they joined together. But everywhere else says that CWC started under Mondt and Jess McMahon. Which is actually correct? Because WWE seems to be saying that Vince Sr. is the creator of CWC who then welcomed in Mondt, but every other source says that Mondt and Jess formed CWC together.

  • @ryanschmidt8327
    @ryanschmidt8327 3 года назад +2

    28min on central states, what not even 10min on wwwf

  • @gpw2409
    @gpw2409 3 года назад

    Awesome series. Bruno disputes your Buddy Roger's scenario... can you substantiate your claim please about the agreement to drop due to a heart attack?

  • @bvabky
    @bvabky 6 лет назад +1

    Love these documentaries

  • @elc1960
    @elc1960 2 года назад

    The only WWWF affiliated arena that ran weekly shows was the late, lamented Jack Witschi's Sports Arena, way out in the "boonies" in North Attleboro, MA. They ran weekly shows until 1975, when the building burned to the ground.

  • @tsb7911
    @tsb7911 2 года назад

    @ 7:05 who is Horst Hoffman? I remember quite well it was Bruno vs Stan Hanson.

  • @bulldogbrower6732
    @bulldogbrower6732 4 года назад +1

    Good video, however if you do your research you will find that Buddy Rogers wrestled almost every night before the Sammartino shoot on him, and almost every night after that till he finally retired. He never had a heart attack. The State Athletic Commissions of New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania kept records of all wrestling matches, yeah just like it was a real sport. Did you know that a State certified doctor, referee, and time keeper had to be at each match, along with the commissioner or his deputy.

    • @Batko10
      @Batko10 4 года назад +3

      If you did your homework you will see that Rogers canceled out of his match with Dory Dixon in Cleveland in mid-April and checked into the hospital. He also cancelled title defenses against Eduoard Carpentier and was hospitalized two other times after the Cleveland incident. The few matches that he fought just prior to the putting over Sammartino were all one minute wonders so he wouldn't have to exert himself.

  • @elc1960
    @elc1960 2 года назад

    WWWF didn't run main events with special stipulation matches at MSG. The NY State Athletic Commission wouldn't't allow it. No Texas Death matches, no chain matches, no Battle Royals, no strap matches, no brass knucks matches, no women's matches or masked wrestlers either. That all changed in 1972, and after that they gradually dropped all objections to all that stuff. Hell, until 1977 if you were under 14 years old you couldn't even attend a wrestling show there.

  • @rgwebb5165
    @rgwebb5165 3 года назад

    Never knew of the precursor to the WWWF. CWC was the first territory Vincent Kennedy took over.

  • @danielalexander2551
    @danielalexander2551 6 лет назад +11

    Bruno Sammartino rip

  • @georgewilliams1470
    @georgewilliams1470 6 лет назад +3

    Haven't seen one, but is there one about World Class

  • @alexanderarce3341
    @alexanderarce3341 6 лет назад +2

    Great videos can you make one of the IWA based in Puerto Rico?

    • @mequetrefe413
      @mequetrefe413 6 лет назад

      The people behind this channel will have to cover every competitor WWC has had in the 40+ years they have been in business (well, it's in a forced hiatus at this moment due to the damage Maria did in Puerto Rico, and they have stated they will return once there is normality).

    • @alexanderarce3341
      @alexanderarce3341 6 лет назад

      Ok there was many companies that went up against WWC such as L&G, CWP, AWF, WWA and the IWA.

    • @MikeTyson_II
      @MikeTyson_II 5 лет назад

      How many stabbin's and murders would be in that video? Lol.

  • @paulzawertany7908
    @paulzawertany7908 11 месяцев назад

    Buddy Rogers wouldn't been allowed to wrestle if he had a heart attack. It's called NY State athletic commission.

  • @TheEWFX29
    @TheEWFX29 6 лет назад +1

    I think this is the one video that you can leave off the referee counting at the end. Since its the only company still alive.

  • @JeffreyJetsKohut
    @JeffreyJetsKohut 5 лет назад +2

    How come WWE has never ran a show at Yankee Stadium?

    • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
      @manuginobilisbaldspot424 4 года назад +4

      Money. The first Showdown at Shea was held in 1972 because the original Yankee Stadium was falling apart and needed to be renovated. They weren't even holding concerts and stuff at the venue at that point. Most everything was happening at the newer Shea Stadium. And then, once CBS sold the Yankees to Steinbrenner, pretty much the only major event that happened at Yankee Stadium in the 70's outside of baseball was the third Ali/Norton fight in 1976 and that was because of Bob Arum's desire to have a larger facility. Plus the Bronx wasn't exactly the safest place back then.

    • @JeffreyJetsKohut
      @JeffreyJetsKohut 2 года назад

      @@Daoloth They legit used to serve hot dogs at Winnipeg Arena on a slice of thick bread.

  • @guardianofchaosBD
    @guardianofchaosBD 6 лет назад

    OWD knocks it out of the park again! THANK YOU! #MarioAndChaosShow @WCNXRadio.Com

  • @redklok585
    @redklok585 6 лет назад +2

    I think Vince SR's last show attended was when Hogan defeated The Iron Sheik.

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 5 лет назад

      I bet He saw Sheikey Baby's Boner to Humbled that Hollywood Blonde Jabroni.

  • @bigmike2464
    @bigmike2464 5 лет назад +2

    So, If Steph or Shane's kids get in the business, first ever 5th Generation

    • @adriancarlos9155
      @adriancarlos9155 4 года назад +1

      Yes true !! But not 5th generation wrestlers.... just 5th generation owners of the WWE...

  • @bradtillerman9174
    @bradtillerman9174 7 лет назад +8

    How in the world did you make a Capitol Wrestling video without ever once mentioning Antonino Rocca, who carried CWC until 1961.

  • @Coodeville
    @Coodeville Год назад

    Horst Hoffman? It was Stan Hanson that night vs Bruno

  • @nickpez192
    @nickpez192 5 лет назад

    I wish you guys would do ones on the AWA, World Class, the Alabama territory and San Antonio. Puerto Rico would be nice too.

  • @EmperorMAR
    @EmperorMAR 6 лет назад

    The official WWE Championship book disagrees a bit with how Vince Sr. got involved with Mondt. What did you use for the creepy face talking effect?

  • @Leg1tKraken
    @Leg1tKraken Год назад

    I could have sworn Jim Londos was the longest continuous champion of all wrestling.... in all (Mens) wrestling

  • @mringram
    @mringram 5 лет назад +1

    Great series

  • @FoolishFlock
    @FoolishFlock 5 лет назад +3

    i love these videos your doing but i do have one minor nitpick complaint that you should def" consider turning-down/lowering the backround music it's very loud & overpowering your voice commentary on the videos!... but other then that great stuff! keep it up!!... i subscribed to your .y.t. channel! b.t.w!.... ; )

  • @Hoonozit
    @Hoonozit 6 лет назад

    Poison. Thanks for the video.

  • @bradtillerman9174
    @bradtillerman9174 7 лет назад +4

    The Grand Wizard Ernie Roth was never a wrestler, and the title match was the last match of the night during Bruno's 1st reign.

    • @junegiovanni6475
      @junegiovanni6475 6 лет назад +1

      No he wasn't, he was a manager his whole entire career, one of the Greatest manager ever. Idk how they got that wrong.

  • @boisuma
    @boisuma 4 года назад

    How come WWE doesn't have a documentary like this in WWE network

    • @elc1960
      @elc1960 Год назад

      They do now.

  • @phunit
    @phunit 3 года назад

    The music at 1:40 slaps so hard

  • @gpw2409
    @gpw2409 3 года назад

    Also I think this could have been much more expanded...

    • @elc1960
      @elc1960 2 года назад

      To do one that was all-inclusive you'd have to have a 3-4 hour video. Way too much ground to cover in their usual 10 minute or less format. Except for the occasional factual inaccuracies it's pretty good nonetheless.

  • @koolmoe1971
    @koolmoe1971 5 лет назад

    I wish you would have went indepth about the stipulations that were contracted in order for wwwf to exit the nwa.

  • @nickpez192
    @nickpez192 5 лет назад

    One on Montreal wouldn't hurt either.

  • @jerransperarman9411
    @jerransperarman9411 6 лет назад

    Good video

  • @HenryFrederick
    @HenryFrederick 5 лет назад

    Pretty decent summary...

  • @David-yw2lv
    @David-yw2lv 7 месяцев назад

    Was Rogers the first to use the "Nature Boy" moniker?Most don't know this now,but that was from a Nat King Cole song.

  • @tonyarceneaux286
    @tonyarceneaux286 4 года назад

    I hit another even likes number.

  • @kevinlynn2456
    @kevinlynn2456 6 лет назад +1

    I just wonder how selfish vince k mcmahon is for not inducted his grandfather and mondt into the hall of fame the very two men who founded and started cwc also known as wwe.

    • @elc1960
      @elc1960 4 года назад +1

      Toots Mondt is in the HOF. He went in as one of the first ever Legacy inductions a few years ago. But Jess McMahon is not. It's not likely Vincent K ever met his grandfather. He didn't go to live with his dad until he was 12 or 13 years old, about 5 years after his grandfather died.

  • @jaahnnn
    @jaahnnn 5 лет назад +1

    6 million dollars is alot for a fight now. Just imagine how much that was in 1976

  • @TheDixiedreamgirl
    @TheDixiedreamgirl Год назад

    Wow, the truth at last

  • @scottmiller3025
    @scottmiller3025 4 года назад +3

    The documentaries are awesome....but the WWF or WWE (if u will) killed all wrestling as far as I'm concerned , no matter what the individual territories may have done.

    • @leverholme9894
      @leverholme9894 2 года назад

      Eventually it was going to happen it was just a matter of time

  • @johnnyso1979
    @johnnyso1979 6 лет назад +1

    The Yankees lost the World Series in 1955 and 1957. The Giants won the World Series in 1954 and the Dodgers in 1955. Milwaukee won in 1957 and the L.A. Dodgers in 1959.

  • @WZ912
    @WZ912 6 лет назад +3

    Jack Dempsey's black?

  • @nickpez192
    @nickpez192 5 лет назад

    And Kansas City/Central States

  • @090nj2
    @090nj2 2 года назад

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @danlivni2097
    @danlivni2097 6 лет назад +3

    WWF was much better in the 80s than the 70s

  • @koolmoe1971
    @koolmoe1971 2 года назад

    95% of the story wasn't told. This was a waste of time.

    • @elc1960
      @elc1960 2 года назад

      Good effort on their part, but I agree that there was way too much ground to cover here. How do you cover 30 years of a wrestling promotion's history in a RUclips video? I wrote an informal but accurate all-inclusive one that wasn't published, and it would take you nearly an hour to read it all.

    • @jimreily7538
      @jimreily7538 Год назад

      @@elc1960 why wasn't it published ? Do you still have access to the document ?

    • @elc1960
      @elc1960 Год назад

      @@jimreily7538 I still have it. I completed the period from the pre-history through 1983 and ended that part with Backlund losing the title to the Iron Sheik. The second part covers January 1984 and is incomplete, and I've got it up to the first Wrestlemania. I want to finish the 1980s before I put it out there for viewing. I'm retired now so hopefully I'll have more time and less on my plate so I can finish it.

  • @mbp7060
    @mbp7060 5 лет назад +3

    Always felt they screwed up changing the WWWF to the WWF.

    • @adriancarlos9155
      @adriancarlos9155 4 года назад +1

      His Dad told him not to change it but he did anyway... to be honest WWWF was to long... the WWF was just right... Abbreviations for Wrestling Promotions should be 3 letters not 4 it just looks better and more professional... Letters made the promotions AWA NWA GWF CWF GCW WCW. USWA looked good as did WCCW but WWF looked better than WWWF... WWF stood out more and not a struggle to read... Vince was right to move with the times... and its easier to say the WWF than the WWWF sounds silly... took a while to get used to the saying WWE but now it just rolls off the tongue.. kinda got used to the W on its own now or the E instead of F...

    • @elc1960
      @elc1960 2 года назад

      @@adriancarlos9155 Vincent J changed the name, not Vincent K. It was done in 1979 when young Vince was just a TV commentator. Other than that, your explanation is right on the money as to why they did it.