It is brilliant and it has to be as it carries the entire album. Time I is a well thought-through composition end to end but Sons Of Winter and Stars is what makes it stand out. Time is a good song by itself but doesn't bring anything new to the table. The other songs are just filler material. I cannot remember playing any of them on purpose outside the context of listening to the full album.
I remember this is Jari's most ambitious work so far. He put time and effort to this, and he's prone to perfectionism. This is pretty... perfect :) After many listening I just kinda wish they'd use the double base and rest of the drums a bit more varied in the beginning. I mean it's good for the first attack for the first phrase where it comes. But the 2nd theme it gets with the chugging is more musical, more interesting Even slight pauses, and couple of speed changes would sound good. I feel the drums should co-op the quire a bit more there. And that would still not mean they would really lose something from the speed.
After a long brake WS music, I now find myself listening to Time I again as Time II draws near. And damn, I don't know if I've forgotten or never fully realized how insanely perfect these Sonic Pump Studios pieces were. Finding new things over and over again. Lack of words on how amazing these were and still are.
Can't really say I blame you for this take it was a remarkable and groundbreaking composition for its time and I'd be lying i I didn't say it was a massive influence on my own writing that persists to this day
@@jamespeterson4275 To this day it's one of the best written and best composed songs of all time, if not the best, and will continue to be until the 'end of time' itself. It will now come in modern quality, completely mastered anew. Only songs from Time II can potentially compete with this, and whatever Jari continues to write. An absolute masterpiece. Equilibrium's instrumental song 'Mana' is the modern answer to Beethoven's Ninth Symphony. This however, is on another level. 1500 tracks and more ideas than entire albums of other bands, beautifully put together. It was just like Jari said, Time I was a demo (although it didn't feel like it), but this live version ... holy shit.
Best Band ever! I can't get enough, never D: This Band keeps me fighting against my Cancer. Edit 2021: I'm absolutely speechless how much love i receive here. I'm still alive, a lot happend the last 2 years. But i'm still fighting, even if it got harder these days. Plz stay safe everyone! I'm very greatful for every message i receive, thanks a lot! You guys are the best! I wish you all health and hopefully good news in the future! Edit 2023: Still fighting. You guys bring me to tears, thanks for all the wishes! Please stay safe, i'm hoping that i can see wintersun and a lot other bands someday! with you guys, in spirit!
Keto is a fad, and may be harmful to certain types of cancer, even if there's some hints from animal studies that it might help against others, there's no guarantee that this is true for humans. It can also cause a number of digestive issues for your body, that you don't want in a weakened state. Do what your doctor says, and don't start something like that without consulting them first.
^ I'm glad someone said something. I suggest the path of proven medical science over potentially harmful/ineffective alternatives. If you're going to try different things, at least don't ignore professional advice. Do both, if you must. Anyway, back to Wintersun.
Alternative medicine guarantees even less. "Official" medicine is proven, defensible and backed by people who have more often than not spent DECADES studying a very narrow field of medicine just so they can contribute something to a greater knowledge-based whole. Alternative "medicine" falsely raises hopes and provides zero expectations of efficacy. The best alternative medicine we have here in Finland is telling people like yourself to lick lamp posts midwinter. I suggest that you "look into" this.
I could'nt pass by this comment of yours. I have kept this song as one of the best in whole world. It has a lot inside the song. Kai Hahto does probably the best perform of his in within this epic song that Wintersun has made for us to keep in our hearts. As a Finn myself i know a lot of Finnish bands that could have this in them, but these guys, Jari being the motor that keeps everything running and smooth for all of us. Love this band a whole lot.
And who exactly are you? How do you get this content? And thank you by the way this is spectacular. I am not just a average fan. Ive worked with the biggest names in the rock and roll industry. Mainly Tom Petty. Him in the studio live with the heartbreakers was something incredible we will all miss... RIP... Now this type of flawless live performance is something rare and amazingly done. I just would like some insight on this because I just love this band.
[I. Rain of Stars] Behold the rain of stars - The awakening of darkened skies Falling from the dark - The symphony of dying lights Behold the rain of stars - The blazing fire came pouring down Falling from the dark - And life and death became unbound Sons of winter and stars Rise! Sons of winter and stars Rise! Sons of winter and stars! Rise! Rise! Fly with us through the darkness Sons of winter and stars! Rise! Rise! And we shall embrace the stars And we shall open the doors of time [II. Surrounded by Darkness] I have awakened the darkness Taste the fear! Taste the pain! I am the one who seeks vengeance Into the darkness we fly Into the shadows they hide Into the darkness we fly They will never survive, they’ll die Oh they will die! I sacrifice everything, just for one moment I throw away everything that matters to me the most I’m flying through the darkness The fire casts a shadow on me I tear a part of my heart for creation of dimensions And we fly beyond the restless shadows We fly beyond the stars We fly beyond the birth of the worlds So old I’ve become - Thousand years staring into emptiness But now I realize - That it was just an illusion All this time I thought it was you that would save the sun Oh rain comes and washes the hate away Now I am at the crossroads with questions Somewhere, someday I will find what I am here for Who am I [III. Journey inside a Dream] I’m wondering now where will you take me From the horizon the light comes alive Into the mountains high we set our way Will we find our way in this long winter night I see the land of fading sun and rising mountains And I finally feel that I’ve found my home But oh, how it feels so cold when my dreams wither in fragments of time Revealing that this land will die Before the winds so cold The world was shattered in the fragments of time Before the autumn rains The coldness will again awake Falling snow, so soft and cold Dying moon cast down so weak Frozen lake, the dancing spirits Calling me to join in the cosmic dream The silence is tempting me now... [IV. Sons of Winter and Stars] We are the Sons of Winter and Stars We’ve come from a far beyond time Forever the fire burns in our hearts Our world shall never die In the arms of the wind we ride till dawn As the waves of the ocean grind so strong We wander in the stars until we’re gone Our fate is sealed by eternal sun [x2] Until we fade away - Fate will find it’s way Until we drift into the dark It’s not too late to find a way - Fate will find it’s way And fly in cold embrace of stars Mysteries of time Unfolding in cosmic dreams Leaving life and death meaningless Before the revelation of infinity Embrace the stars! The energy flows in me like a river of stars I’m surrounded by the circle of fire, but eternal ice has frozen my heart I’m lost in the pathways of time But now the time has come for us! We are the Sons of Winter and Stars We’ve come from a far beyond time Forever the fire burns in our hearts Our world shall never die In the arms of the wind we ride till dawn As the waves of the ocean grind so strong We wander in the stars until we’re gone Our fate is sealed by eternal sun [x2] We are the Sons of Winter and Stars! [x2]
This is, still, after 12 years of constant listening (probably 10+ times a day), the best song ever made. So many times ive watched this video. Never get tired of it.
I'm not a metalhead, but this feels like a true masterpiece and true artists. At first, when I heard a part of this song I didn't want to listen to it - not my style. But in the back of my head it started ringing and calling me back. After hearing about the band and these two 'rehersal' videos (with Time) I had to return to listen to it. Now I can't stay away for long. WTF?!? It just draws me closer and closer. The more I listen to it, the more I like it. THANKS for the talent and effort!
@asq Hp You've always been a metalhead. Just didn't realize it. If you have iron based hemobglobatic blood, that metal that oxidizes and keeps most of our asses alive is constantly flowing through your brain, therefore, you ams Metalhead. Welcome to the party, we're a pretty fun crowd! Cheers! \m/,
There are forms of music that aren't my style but I recognize talent & masterful songwritting when I hear it whether it is what I enjoy or not. I've never understood why anyone that truly appreciates music could just write Metal off & ignore it their entire life because much of the best music written today is Metal. Is every band something exceptional? No, of course not. Especially when you're listening to pop-rock. Bands like Disturbed & Korn, for exaple. They do not stick out as something exceptional & if one thinks that bands like that are representative of the genre overall then I can see why someone wouldn't be impressed. Every style of Music is found within Metal. Nothing else is as interesting & it all pales in comparison next to Metal. Plain & simple.
Good grief, that's exactly my experience with this song :P I heard it, disliked it, remembered it, returned to it, and now I absolutely adore it... It's the only song that ever did this to me... It really is a song that inspires respect for the artists (even though their release-schedule feels inconsistent and a bit lazy)
Yes. Me too. It took me about 8 months before I was able to go for a day without one of the tracks from this album. I have cracked the habit, so now it's just about 7-8 times a week.
Great version, though there are at least 2 extra guitars lacking ^^ (damn Jari) and I can't figure the actual disharmony either (before the break and right after the solo parts)
I think Jari might not have the vocal capacity to sing the song in its entirety, in its original key well enough in one take for him to be comfortable putting it out there. And I don't want to see a version with a lower key, because it could never live up to the album version like that. Perhaps he sings it in a lower key on tour, because it's too much for his vocal folds to handle while he's touring, screaming and singing as much as he does while on tour, though. I've been a vocalist all my life, so I know how that stuff is. The more you use and stress your voice, the more you "use it up". If he can sing it close to as well as he did on the album if he hasn't been stressing his voice beforehand in one take, I'd be all for it. I'd love to see it. I don't know which one of those two options could be the case with him.
@@Rebella1337 saw them live a little while back....didn't sound like it was in a lower key but he sang it phenomenally. Their whole set was near perfect. Aside from one of their guitarists not making it into Canada, but Jari doesnt sing and play guitar anymore so he can just focus on vocals maybe partly for the reasons you've mentioned so he can focus and take care of his voice and just be able to put on a better performance. Who knows for sure. But still. Amazing live
Rebecca Hope omg i understand so much XD im following Jari since Norther and been a big fan since , and Jari already said it , in my case about a million time : You will be rewarded for the burden of wait , and yes it is worthy ahah
Masterpiece. You men are so underappreciated its problematic. Everyday hundreds of millions of songs are played in the ears of people; and 95% of those songs can't hold a candle to this. This piece is timeless and epic.
I agree with you, I am from Spain, I show this song to my family, boyfriend, friends, and no one can appreciate it. They said "it is horrible" I really surprised because I don't understand if the problem is mine or their. It is my favorite song and everybody tell me that I have a problem. 😓
@@beatrizcano839 the problem is theirs, they're unable to appreciate beauty. It's like a person who thinks McDonald's is gourmet food. They're hopeless.
This is one of my favorite go-to things to watch when I need to get away from reality. The artistry and complexity of what they do really cheers me up.
Ok, um... this is the first time ever I listen to Wintersun and I'm just...I can't even put into word how amazing theses guys sound. Makes life worth living
You need now Google translete: Suomessa on ollut ja on enemmän selväpäisiä ihmisiä kuin sekaisin olevia- emme olisi selvinneet maana sodista,satoja tuhansia kuoli sodissa ja kun Suomi on tämmöinen pieni maa, n. 5,5 miljoonaa asukasta- tuliko selväksi 😃😎
I'm very sure Wintersun it's the most underrated band ever. They should be massive but I'm glad they aren't, I still feel like they are my best kept secret.
I wouldn't say they are underrated. They're one of the biggest bands in the Extreme Metal genre, and that's quite a large umbrella term. They frequently sell out shows, and have played in some pretty huge festivals. Maybe the genre as a whole is fairly underrated, sure, but Wintersun get a ton of recognition for being in a kinda niche genre.
@@Aenygma_ actualy they had way more fame back then. The first song that went puplic (at least in germany) was "sleeping stars" through the Metalhammer magazine and that song skyrocked on top of the charts of every Metalmagizine even bevor the album was out. The fact that Ensiferium where on their prime at this time helped alot due the fact most metal interessted people already knew Jari for his great work and ear for details in making music at this point. The fame whent low due the extrem time between the release of the second album. some people just forgoten them and Time one, even well recieved, couldnt bring them the fame back. Way to much time has past. If they had pushed out their albums quicker, i am pretty sure Wintersun would still be the "Big Band" as 2004 where you could here the name Wintersun atleast once in every conversation between metalheads. Realy, everyone talked about them, me included until today^^
I've been a long-time Nightwish Fan, and when I kept on hearing about Wintersun, I decided to check them out and my mind is blown! This is the first song I have listened to from Wintersun, and now you have a new fan!
I feel you with this. Grew up on Nightwish and Kamelot and more progressive rock and metal bands; then one of my high school friends recommended me this band, with this exact song, and my jaw was dropped. Wintersun is freaking amazing!!!
me too, I feel exhausted when I listen to it. It's like my heart wants to follow the rythm and all the instruments while beeing at the same time overwhelmed by the emotions of the voice and the lyrics... a masterpiece I'm glad I discovered recently!
I told to Jari once that people in 300 years will remind him and Wintersun in a same line as Beethoven, Bach, Mozart and Metallica! This is music for musicians! Can't wait to see more!
@@ToastedCigar Every time I stumble across his music, it annoys me. Can't find the proper vocabulary to describe it. Perhaps it's too small and too playfull? Has no proper development or climax.
@@ReadersOfTheApocalypse I recommend to check out Ave verum corpus or his Requiem. They are amazing. I agree that a lot of Mozarts works are too much in the playful side, but some of his later works are incredible
When the double bass drums kick in holy fuck......it's hard to pick a favorite riff because they're all so fucking good. 11:30 - 12:08 is right up there for me in this song. That's the best thing about it, there are like 10 parts that could be my favorite
I feel like we're a small Wintersun community every video ever existed about Wintersun, we've all seen them :( Wintersun, you either love them, or don't know who the hell they are
i've never heard of wintersun up until now that i accidentally found them. it makes me wonder why they arent more known, seems like the type of band people would love to listen to.
@@lefterisphasarias8934 exactly ! they are very unique ! their songs are just so well done, you can clearly know that they put so much work behind this masterpiece..
@@lefterisphasarias8934 Well you can't blame most people. All they ever hear is what's on the radio or spotify playlists. Most never explore different genres and are usually turned off by aggressive loud music because they don't take the time to understand it.
I love whatever band Jari is in and whatever songs he composed all so great to me.And my basic sound is sadness so I love very much the songs Breeze of grief , loneliness or time etc and Imemmorial is my favourite album till now love the song when the rain ends.I'm a loner and my heart has just been broken and so sad now
IMO this is the greatest heavy metal song created to date. It's so synchronized and well played. The parts are defined and recognizable, it's a masterpiece.
Agree. Its so freaking good i could listen to it forever! Btw try listening Ne Obliviscaris i think you ll dig it! My recomendation to start is Citadel album, song - Devoue me colosus. Masterpiece
This song is perfection. We all know that. Every tiny pick, strum and hit is perfectly placed and to do that with this tempo and power is pretty unbelievable. Kai is a machine. It's worth watching it again and focusing purely on the drums and how much he is doing in 14 minutes. It's actually insane.
Im sorry my friend but everything in this video is edited after the photoshoot and recording,the performance is very polished and presiced for a reason
I can't even put it in words how great this song is (dont get me wrong, all their music is totally awesome). For me this the best song I've heard in my 30 years of existance on this planet so far. I've listened to it so many times (I might have heard this song more often than the great god Jari himself) and it still amazes me every god damn time. Seen two live shows and it's a hell of a performance. I'm really really enjoying Wintersun for more than 15 years so far and I will do so probably for the rest of my life. If they are able to make the next album as good as the first three ones I would wait for it another ten years (pls dont).
I've been listening all kind of metal band since the last 40 years , Wintersun got to the top of my favorites the first time I heard their music and this feeling just grew up year after year...
Among the many impressive things in this song the work of the drummer is simply insane! This drummer is easily one of the best drummers i saw in my life.
Kai's timing is incredible I have to admit that I love Jukka, but in terms of timing, there are few drummers out there with that precise timing Awesome
Kai is one of the best drummer in this genre, and he is the best match for Wintersun music, his style is totally part of the epicness of your songs! I loved this band from the very beginning and 15 years of Time did not change that, still one of my favourite.
@@danielgelencser2275Kai, the drummer on this album, wrote none of it. Wintersun is Jari Mäenpää's (lead vocals) band & he writes all of the music. As far as I know, Kai is now playing drums full time in Nightwish after their original drummer had to step down due to a severe sleep disorder. But Jari is the musical genius of Wintersun. His band mates are always exceptional musicians though. They _HAVE_ to be or else they'd fall flat on their face trying to play Jari's music.
I've seen Wintersun live 3 times & if you've never attended one of their shows then I strongly recommend that you change that. Everyone in the building sings along the entire show which makes it all the more epic. Kai was drumming the first 2 times I seen them but Timo Häkkinen was playing with them the last time I seen them on The Forest Seasons U.S. tour & he was no less impressive. The Metal Archives says that Kai Hahto is still Wintersun's drummer but he is also Nightwish's drummer now so I don't know what's going on with that. Many Metal musicians are in more than 1 active band so he could very well be a full time member of both bands.
As someone who's listened to metal for decades and never been able to fully get into harsh vocals, I've grown to love a handful of songs but usually I find them either just 'fine' or song-ruining. But the way Jari comes in at 1:35 , and the growls in section 10:10 - 10:50 are so fucking GOOD. Something in Jari's harsh vocals sound so much more layered and dynamic than the usual, dry-sounding grunts and growls you usually hear
Same for me, I don`t like harsh vocals very much usually, but Jari`s harsh vocals then are just a completely different thing, I love Jari`s harsh vocals, it is so beautiful❤
Words can’t describe how absolutely perfect this is. An approximation would be Godlike, epic, beyond human, the apotheosis of music… Wintersun for eternity
Nice to hear Kai get to be himself. He's done a great job with Nightwish, but you can plainly see how much he loves what he's doing here. oh..love the shit out of this!
When I listen to music like this I can't help to think about non-metal fans (yes, they do exist even if it makes no sense) that think main stream music is so good. I doubt even 1% of the main stream musicians you hear on the radio could play this song at this level. I know that everyone don't appreciate this type of music (still don't understand why but that's another story) but regardless you must admire the craftmanship and excellence in performance to do what they're doing. Not only playing it but the writing/composing is next level.
Just EVERY time I isten to this song, it gets to me like the first time I heard it. The entire album is a masterpiece, but this is the most powerful song. I just wish there were more of this stuff around. I fear that when Time II comes around, it might not reach up to this level. This album is a once in a lifetime achievement.
here as time II got released, and as someone who bought the time package pre sale thingy - time II is as great as I, amazing riffs and solos, ominous clouds into storm has amazing atmosphere just as the first one, and goddamn we got some incredible black metal stuff from jari in the package too. weeks worth of gold turned music
TIME II will release before GTA 6!!!! That is insane
And likely be better
I will playing this song and time 2 in gta 6 🤘🏻
This song has more ideas than other bands have on a whole album...
i love this song ... one of my favorites ...
But please check out EDGE OF SANITY - Crimson ... if you feel so ... its a 40 minute song concept album
Album? I think you mean some other band's entire discography.
It is brilliant and it has to be as it carries the entire album. Time I is a well thought-through composition end to end but Sons Of Winter and Stars is what makes it stand out. Time is a good song by itself but doesn't bring anything new to the table. The other songs are just filler material. I cannot remember playing any of them on purpose outside the context of listening to the full album.
Also this song alone has more diversity than some othet bands whole albums
I remember this is Jari's most ambitious work so far. He put time and effort to this, and he's prone to perfectionism. This is pretty... perfect :)
After many listening I just kinda wish they'd use the double base and rest of the drums a bit more varied in the beginning. I mean it's good for the first attack for the first phrase where it comes. But the 2nd theme it gets with the chugging is more musical, more interesting Even slight pauses, and couple of speed changes would sound good. I feel the drums should co-op the quire a bit more there. And that would still not mean they would really lose something from the speed.
Even after Time II's release, this is by far my favorite Wintersun track. Who's with me?
agreed! Time II is less aggressive , more melodic and emotional, but i like it
@@conchosewing yeah, this and TIME are the best for me.
Fully agreed. Time II is a good album and I like it but this song is special. More like an anthem for life than just a song.
Time II is a big mess honestly...
After a long brake WS music, I now find myself listening to Time I again as Time II draws near. And damn, I don't know if I've forgotten or never fully realized how insanely perfect these Sonic Pump Studios pieces were. Finding new things over and over again. Lack of words on how amazing these were and still are.
This is easily top 10 songs I've heard in my entire life.
Can't really say I blame you for this take it was a remarkable and groundbreaking composition for its time and I'd be lying i I didn't say it was a massive influence on my own writing that persists to this day
Definitely. It's an underrated masterpiece.
This is easily in the 10 songs I've heard in my entire life.
@@jamespeterson4275 To this day it's one of the best written and best composed songs of all time, if not the best, and will continue to be until the 'end of time' itself. It will now come in modern quality, completely mastered anew. Only songs from Time II can potentially compete with this, and whatever Jari continues to write. An absolute masterpiece. Equilibrium's instrumental song 'Mana' is the modern answer to Beethoven's Ninth Symphony. This however, is on another level.
1500 tracks and more ideas than entire albums of other bands, beautifully put together. It was just like Jari said, Time I was a demo (although it didn't feel like it), but this live version ... holy shit.
100% agree.
Speaking as a Finn, I suggest this should be the new national anthem of Finland
As a finn... would love to hear their version of a current national anthem...
You've already got the best bands and the best mythology, having the best national anthem a well is a bit selfish.....
The Finnish anthem in English eh?
@@edwells4769 wintersun English, yeah.
Althouh i'm not finn, I agree 8000+% with you.
Best Band ever! I can't get enough, never D: This Band keeps me fighting against my Cancer.
Edit 2021: I'm absolutely speechless how much love i receive here. I'm still alive, a lot happend the last 2 years. But i'm still fighting, even if it got harder these days. Plz stay safe everyone! I'm very greatful for every message i receive, thanks a lot! You guys are the best!
I wish you all health and hopefully good news in the future!
Edit 2023: Still fighting. You guys bring me to tears, thanks for all the wishes! Please stay safe, i'm hoping that i can see wintersun and a lot other bands someday! with you guys, in spirit!
Wintersun's music is all kinds of inspiring. You will beat that darn illness! Stand up and fight!
Keep going, punch those damaged cells right in the face.
Keto is a fad, and may be harmful to certain types of cancer, even if there's some hints from animal studies that it might help against others, there's no guarantee that this is true for humans. It can also cause a number of digestive issues for your body, that you don't want in a weakened state. Do what your doctor says, and don't start something like that without consulting them first.
^ I'm glad someone said something. I suggest the path of proven medical science over potentially harmful/ineffective alternatives. If you're going to try different things, at least don't ignore professional advice. Do both, if you must.
Anyway, back to Wintersun.
Alternative medicine guarantees even less. "Official" medicine is proven, defensible and backed by people who have more often than not spent DECADES studying a very narrow field of medicine just so they can contribute something to a greater knowledge-based whole. Alternative "medicine" falsely raises hopes and provides zero expectations of efficacy. The best alternative medicine we have here in Finland is telling people like yourself to lick lamp posts midwinter. I suggest that you "look into" this.
It's not a song, it's a journey, i wish i could see my old self's reaction, 14 minutes ago, would be priceless.
Kai Hahto produces enough thermal energy to cover half of Finland's energy needs
Skvělá .. 🤘🤘🤘
Lmfaooooo
Lol
😅😅😅
You win the internet lmao!!! 😆😆😆
grindcore fans dying of natural causes because the song is too long for them:
hahahaha
This is even better when you realize that Kai Hahto started out as a grindcore drummer :D
This is a whole grindcore album!
Thats why he Looks so bored rhe whole time 🤯
they suffer...but why
7:36 I like how Kai just chills there for a minute while Jari sings his heart out
Truly a masterpiece
bro don't overcomplicate things he's just looking forward lmao
The way Kai writes his drums is just exquisite.
9:06 Goosebump everytime
Fuck i LOVE THIS BAND!!!! Anything out of FINLAND never ever fails to disappoint. Ever.
As a Finn, I love to hear that! Wintersun is our jewel, but unfortunately music business nowadays doesn't support this sort of music
Hard Rock, Hallelujah!
I could'nt pass by this comment of yours.
I have kept this song as one of the best in whole world.
It has a lot inside the song.
Kai Hahto does probably the best perform of his in within this epic song that Wintersun has made for us to keep in our hearts.
As a Finn myself i know a lot of Finnish bands that could have this in them, but these guys, Jari being the motor that keeps everything running and smooth for all of us. Love this band a whole lot.
careful with those words, "never fails to disappoint" is a triple negative
Except me
There is more complexity in 10 seconds of this song than the entirety of any offering in the charts these days.
This recording is the reason why I haven't done an Ultimate Version of this song. It doesn't get much better than this.
And who exactly are you? How do you get this content? And thank you by the way this is spectacular. I am not just a average fan. Ive worked with the biggest names in the rock and roll industry. Mainly Tom Petty. Him in the studio live with the heartbreakers was something incredible we will all miss... RIP... Now this type of flawless live performance is something rare and amazingly done. I just would like some insight on this because I just love this band.
you can get the stems when you buy the kickstarter package. so you can can mix your own version.
@@dubselectorr345 deadass that account is jari himself
@@yes-dq8lm no I figured out who it was. If you think it's Jari then search around youll find out who. I won't give it away
@WintersunExtras no it doesn't
Highlight part is 0:00 ~ 14:05
But the most epic one is that one which is the whole song!
@@vladkocharian2880 that's what he said lmao dude
Let's fucking go 2024! Oh I love Wintersun 🖤🤘
[I. Rain of Stars]
Behold the rain of stars - The awakening of darkened skies
Falling from the dark - The symphony of dying lights
Behold the rain of stars - The blazing fire came pouring down
Falling from the dark - And life and death became unbound
Sons of winter and stars Rise!
Sons of winter and stars Rise!
Sons of winter and stars! Rise! Rise!
Fly with us through the darkness
Sons of winter and stars! Rise! Rise!
And we shall embrace the stars
And we shall open the doors of time
[II. Surrounded by Darkness]
I have awakened the darkness
Taste the fear! Taste the pain!
I am the one who seeks vengeance
Into the darkness we fly
Into the shadows they hide
Into the darkness we fly
They will never survive, they’ll die
Oh they will die!
I sacrifice everything, just for one moment
I throw away everything that matters to me the most
I’m flying through the darkness
The fire casts a shadow on me
I tear a part of my heart for creation of dimensions
And we fly beyond the restless shadows
We fly beyond the stars
We fly beyond the birth of the worlds
So old I’ve become - Thousand years staring into emptiness
But now I realize - That it was just an illusion
All this time I thought it was you that would save the sun
Oh rain comes and washes the hate away
Now I am at the crossroads with questions
Somewhere, someday I will find what I am here for
Who am I
[III. Journey inside a Dream]
I’m wondering now where will you take me
From the horizon the light comes alive
Into the mountains high we set our way
Will we find our way in this long winter night
I see the land of fading sun and rising mountains
And I finally feel that I’ve found my home
But oh, how it feels so cold when my dreams wither in fragments of time
Revealing that this land will die
Before the winds so cold
The world was shattered in the fragments of time
Before the autumn rains
The coldness will again awake
Falling snow, so soft and cold
Dying moon cast down so weak
Frozen lake, the dancing spirits
Calling me to join in the cosmic dream
The silence is tempting me now...
[IV. Sons of Winter and Stars]
We are the Sons of Winter and Stars
We’ve come from a far beyond time
Forever the fire burns in our hearts
Our world shall never die
In the arms of the wind we ride till dawn
As the waves of the ocean grind so strong
We wander in the stars until we’re gone
Our fate is sealed by eternal sun [x2]
Until we fade away - Fate will find it’s way
Until we drift into the dark
It’s not too late to find a way - Fate will find it’s way
And fly in cold embrace of stars
Mysteries of time
Unfolding in cosmic dreams
Leaving life and death meaningless
Before the revelation of infinity
Embrace the stars!
The energy flows in me like a river of stars
I’m surrounded by the circle of fire, but eternal ice has frozen my heart
I’m lost in the pathways of time
But now the time has come for us!
We are the Sons of Winter and Stars
We’ve come from a far beyond time
Forever the fire burns in our hearts
Our world shall never die
In the arms of the wind we ride till dawn
As the waves of the ocean grind so strong
We wander in the stars until we’re gone
Our fate is sealed by eternal sun [x2]
We are the Sons of Winter and Stars! [x2]
I vote for this song to be the anthem for the human race.
I 2nd this!
I think it's meant to be the anthem for northern Europeans? But that works too I guess
@@alexanderjakubowski6183 Yeah. Winter is exclusively northen European.
it fits better as an anthem for europeans in my opinion (whites)
We are the sons of the stars after all, all life-forming elements were cooked inside a sun.
This is perhaps the GREATEST song ever.
very likely
Richard, you might be spot on with your comment. This one is just AMAZING
Along with the "Greatest show on earth" from Nightwish!!!!
I put a random metal playlist, while painting my daughters room, this came up, awesome!!!!! first time i listen to this band
The change at 8th minute. Even the guy suddenly becomes handsome 🙃
hahaha, good catch.
This is, still, after 12 years of constant listening (probably 10+ times a day), the best song ever made. So many times ive watched this video. Never get tired of it.
This series is definitely among the best "live in studio" full-band playthroughs of all time
4:51, thats just eargasm. Best riff ever written. Best. 🤘
I'm not a metalhead, but this feels like a true masterpiece and true artists.
At first, when I heard a part of this song I didn't want to listen to it - not my style.
But in the back of my head it started ringing and calling me back. After hearing about the band and these two 'rehersal' videos (with Time) I had to return to listen to it. Now I can't stay away for long. WTF?!?
It just draws me closer and closer. The more I listen to it, the more I like it. THANKS for the talent and effort!
That´s the way the Metal-Journey has began for me :)
Sorry for my bad English and greetings from Bavaria !
@asq Hp You've always been a metalhead. Just didn't realize it. If you have iron based hemobglobatic blood, that metal that oxidizes and keeps most of our asses alive is constantly flowing through your brain, therefore, you ams Metalhead. Welcome to the party, we're a pretty fun crowd! Cheers! \m/,
There are forms of music that aren't my style but I recognize talent & masterful songwritting when I hear it whether it is what I enjoy or not. I've never understood why anyone that truly appreciates music could just write Metal off & ignore it their entire life because much of the best music written today is Metal. Is every band something exceptional? No, of course not. Especially when you're listening to pop-rock. Bands like Disturbed & Korn, for exaple. They do not stick out as something exceptional & if one thinks that bands like that are representative of the genre overall then I can see why someone wouldn't be impressed. Every style of Music is found within Metal. Nothing else is as interesting & it all pales in comparison next to Metal. Plain & simple.
Good grief, that's exactly my experience with this song :P I heard it, disliked it, remembered it, returned to it, and now I absolutely adore it... It's the only song that ever did this to me... It really is a song that inspires respect for the artists (even though their release-schedule feels inconsistent and a bit lazy)
Yes. Me too. It took me about 8 months before I was able to go for a day without one of the tracks from this album. I have cracked the habit, so now it's just about 7-8 times a week.
One thing that shines over all this awesomeness is the joy that Hahto the drummer gets from playing this masterpiece.
RISE!!
All this years and still a Masterpiece. If I were in a band again, it would have to be like this. Yeahhh to Wintersun🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘☀️☀️☀️🎼🎼
Jari, please make a video of loneliness rehearsal video in a studio
If you're looking to transcribe the music for Loneliness, I took a crack at it and posted it on Ultimate Guitar (version 2).
Great version, though there are at least 2 extra guitars lacking ^^ (damn Jari) and I can't figure the actual disharmony either (before the break and right after the solo parts)
I think Jari might not have the vocal capacity to sing the song in its entirety, in its original key well enough in one take for him to be comfortable putting it out there. And I don't want to see a version with a lower key, because it could never live up to the album version like that. Perhaps he sings it in a lower key on tour, because it's too much for his vocal folds to handle while he's touring, screaming and singing as much as he does while on tour, though. I've been a vocalist all my life, so I know how that stuff is. The more you use and stress your voice, the more you "use it up". If he can sing it close to as well as he did on the album if he hasn't been stressing his voice beforehand in one take, I'd be all for it. I'd love to see it. I don't know which one of those two options could be the case with him.
@@Rebella1337 saw them live a little while back....didn't sound like it was in a lower key but he sang it phenomenally. Their whole set was near perfect. Aside from one of their guitarists not making it into Canada, but Jari doesnt sing and play guitar anymore so he can just focus on vocals maybe partly for the reasons you've mentioned so he can focus and take care of his voice and just be able to put on a better performance. Who knows for sure. But still. Amazing live
Can't wait for Wintersun - The Way of the Fire Live Rehearsals at Wintersun Headquarters
im afraid you will have to wait a long time for that😂😂
Oh my god this would be the ultimate rehearsal video. The Way of the Fire is my favourite WS song by far
Kevin... Wintersun has been my favorite band for over 10 years. Waiting is in my blood. One day, our day will come, and it shall be glorious.
OH YES!!!
Rebecca Hope omg i understand so much XD im following Jari since Norther and been a big fan since , and Jari already said it , in my case about a million time : You will be rewarded for the burden of wait , and yes it is worthy ahah
Masterpiece. You men are so underappreciated its problematic. Everyday hundreds of millions of songs are played in the ears of people; and 95% of those songs can't hold a candle to this. This piece is timeless and epic.
I agree with you, I am from Spain, I show this song to my family, boyfriend, friends, and no one can appreciate it. They said "it is horrible" I really surprised because I don't understand if the problem is mine or their. It is my favorite song and everybody tell me that I have a problem. 😓
*99%
@@beatrizcano839 Buy for them good headphones and amplifier :)
They just wrong also they just don't have understanding... in short words : you more 'intelligence' than they
Sorry for my russian-english )))
@@beatrizcano839 the problem is theirs, they're unable to appreciate beauty. It's like a person who thinks McDonald's is gourmet food. They're hopeless.
This Is a masterpiece
One of the best songs ever writen!
This is one of my favorite go-to things to watch when I need to get away from reality. The artistry and complexity of what they do really cheers me up.
Ok, um... this is the first time ever I listen to Wintersun and I'm just...I can't even put into word how amazing theses guys sound. Makes life worth living
I was just leaving but then I saw this and guess I'll be 14 minutes late.
Byrtsi
😁😁😁👍
From time to time Finnish people sober up a little, get up off their asses, and show the world how truly and amazingly talented they are.
You have a point there, In Finland even computer nerds are getting drunk
You need now Google translete: Suomessa on ollut ja on enemmän selväpäisiä ihmisiä kuin sekaisin olevia- emme olisi selvinneet maana sodista,satoja tuhansia kuoli sodissa ja kun Suomi on tämmöinen pieni maa, n. 5,5 miljoonaa asukasta- tuliko selväksi 😃😎
@@katimariaanakivimaki6783 Tuohon sun tekstiin tarvii suomalainenkin suomennosta, oli niin päin persettä kirjotettu
@@Shampsuli 😂
Ensiferum would be crawling now having fired Jari in the past
Only Jari can remaster a rehearsal :D
he can remaster a remastered version of a remastered version
when he doesnt have any real new content -.-
@@Nadav_Zaidman how can you keep creating these 14 min masterpieces, there's only so much chords
Our rehearsals never sounded like this.. Strange thing that..
@@JH-tm1nf yeah and some other take the 14min and make 5 Songs out of it and call them Content ;P
I'm very sure Wintersun it's the most underrated band ever. They should be massive but I'm glad they aren't, I still feel like they are my best kept secret.
I wouldn't say they are underrated. They're one of the biggest bands in the Extreme Metal genre, and that's quite a large umbrella term. They frequently sell out shows, and have played in some pretty huge festivals. Maybe the genre as a whole is fairly underrated, sure, but Wintersun get a ton of recognition for being in a kinda niche genre.
They used to be "secret" years ago, but not anymore thanks to their recent works.
@@Aenygma_ I'd argue that Jari previously being in Ensiferum kickstarted the band's success from the beginning.
@@Aenygma_ actualy they had way more fame back then. The first song that went puplic (at least in germany) was "sleeping stars" through the Metalhammer magazine and that song skyrocked on top of the charts of every Metalmagizine even bevor the album was out. The fact that Ensiferium where on their prime at this time helped alot due the fact most metal interessted people already knew Jari for his great work and ear for details in making music at this point. The fame whent low due the extrem time between the release of the second album. some people just forgoten them and Time one, even well recieved, couldnt bring them the fame back. Way to much time has past. If they had pushed out their albums quicker, i am pretty sure Wintersun would still be the "Big Band" as 2004 where you could here the name Wintersun atleast once in every conversation between metalheads. Realy, everyone talked about them, me included until today^^
If they had released all of Time, they’d be one of the biggest bands in metal.
This song is part of my daily routine now. I have to listen to it at least twice a day.
I feel blessed by all cosmic entities in the universe for having discovered this band
You are Blessed my friend..let the Vril flow
Same
I've been a long-time Nightwish Fan, and when I kept on hearing about Wintersun, I decided to check them out and my mind is blown! This is the first song I have listened to from Wintersun, and now you have a new fan!
I feel you with this. Grew up on Nightwish and Kamelot and more progressive rock and metal bands; then one of my high school friends recommended me this band, with this exact song, and my jaw was dropped.
Wintersun is freaking amazing!!!
I've been on Nightwish and Sabaton.. but Wintersun are on a league of their own.
@@collinsabraham8590 try kalmah, insomnium..
@@MsSyahir92 thanks a lot, I will. On my own I take a lot of time searching for new bands, so I appreciate now that you've made my work a lot easier 🙏
The quality of music is just beyond any piece I have met in the metal industry, period. Thank you all for all the efforts you do for this.
So grateful I saw this live. This is the best band alive right now period
This is in my opinion the most epic song ever written. It make me feel so much.....i get exhausted every time i listen to it.
me too, I feel exhausted when I listen to it. It's like my heart wants to follow the rythm and all the instruments while beeing at the same time overwhelmed by the emotions of the voice and the lyrics... a masterpiece I'm glad I discovered recently!
I've been coming back to the Sonic Pump sessions for years. It's the tightest fucking shit ever.
A veritable modern day Mozart or Beethoven performance right here in my living room. What a world we live in now
Jukka Koskinen deserves more credit, the unsung hero of the group!!!
I just discovered metal a few days ago and someone recommend this to me on Reddit. Speechless 😭❤️
Ghost Love Score by Nightwish. Live at Wacken 2013
You're in for a hell of a journey! Good Luck!
@@musicmaker2 Yes as a starter then burry yourself down the Nightwish rabbit hole 👍😊
The power of one (by Sonata Arctica). Studio version still works...
All for Finland !! ❄🔥
Only Jari has the balls to fire enough epic riffs that could serve a great metal band for their entire discography into one song.
And then there's The Way of the Fire.
5 Years and this still kick ass. I do still believe that the killer riff at 4:49 it's one of the most awesome riffs ever done on metal.
the videos from the sonic pump studios are a spiritual experience ♥
by far the best version of this song
I told to Jari once that people in 300 years will remind him and Wintersun in a same line as Beethoven, Bach, Mozart and Metallica! This is music for musicians! Can't wait to see more!
Mozart is overrated
@@ReadersOfTheApocalypse overrated? How?
@@ToastedCigar Every time I stumble across his music, it annoys me. Can't find the proper vocabulary to describe it. Perhaps it's too small and too playfull? Has no proper development or climax.
@@ReadersOfTheApocalypse I recommend to check out Ave verum corpus or his Requiem. They are amazing. I agree that a lot of Mozarts works are too much in the playful side, but some of his later works are incredible
Sadly, bands like dream theater, wintersun or children of bodom won't be as popular as metallica or pantera
undoubtedly, one of the best songs to ever be written and recorded
This is one of mankind's greatest achievements
We are all blessed to have seen this in our lifetime.
There is so much love for metal in this song...
Between 4:48 and 5:15 lays sheer bliss of rhythmic and melodic excellence. What a ride!
oh bro im so glad someone else thinks so hahaha best riff everrr
Not for nothing Jari calls it "The killer riff"
When the double bass drums kick in holy fuck......it's hard to pick a favorite riff because they're all so fucking good. 11:30 - 12:08 is right up there for me in this song. That's the best thing about it, there are like 10 parts that could be my favorite
@@pbmdh Absolutely badass 🤘
I feel like we're a small Wintersun community every video ever existed about Wintersun, we've all seen them :(
Wintersun, you either love them, or don't know who the hell they are
i've never heard of wintersun up until now that i accidentally found them. it makes me wonder why they arent more known, seems like the type of band people would love to listen to.
@@lefterisphasarias8934 exactly ! they are very unique ! their songs are just so well done, you can clearly know that they put so much work behind this masterpiece..
Accurate! A lot of bands that are really fucking amazing are totally underrated or flat out not well known!
@@lefterisphasarias8934
Well you can't blame most people. All they ever hear is what's on the radio or spotify playlists. Most never explore different genres and are usually turned off by aggressive loud music because they don't take the time to understand it.
I love whatever band Jari is in and whatever songs he composed all so great to me.And my basic sound is sadness so I love very much the songs Breeze of grief , loneliness or time etc and Imemmorial is my favourite album till now love the song when the rain ends.I'm a loner and my heart has just been broken and so sad now
It's incredible how it is a perfect balance between emotions, rawness and clean playing, you can hear every instrument perfectly
Me: let’s hear this song.
Always me, 48 seconds later: 10/10, total masterpiece!!!
IMO this is the greatest heavy metal song created to date. It's so synchronized and well played. The parts are defined and recognizable, it's a masterpiece.
Agree. Its so freaking good i could listen to it forever!
Btw try listening Ne Obliviscaris i think you ll dig it! My recomendation to start is Citadel album, song - Devoue me colosus. Masterpiece
the energy contained in this song could power finland for a year
I have a sudden urge to go dragon hunting on Skyrim
The build up from 07:20 to 09:05 and the massacre after that are one of the best things created in any metal Song
Yes that break time for the drummer, but they build it to torture him after.
*again 😂
yep, that part from 09:06 goes so hard its literally insane how gooood they are
every time I here this song I discover something that I havent heard before. Just a masterpiece.
This song is perfection. We all know that. Every tiny pick, strum and hit is perfectly placed and to do that with this tempo and power is pretty unbelievable.
Kai is a machine. It's worth watching it again and focusing purely on the drums and how much he is doing in 14 minutes. It's actually insane.
you nail it bro:
Im sorry my friend but everything in this video is edited after the photoshoot and recording,the performance is very polished and presiced for a reason
@@iftahlevy Wrong.
I can't even put it in words how great this song is (dont get me wrong, all their music is totally awesome). For me this the best song I've heard in my 30 years of existance on this planet so far. I've listened to it so many times (I might have heard this song more often than the great god Jari himself) and it still amazes me every god damn time. Seen two live shows and it's a hell of a performance. I'm really really enjoying Wintersun for more than 15 years so far and I will do so probably for the rest of my life. If they are able to make the next album as good as the first three ones I would wait for it another ten years (pls dont).
It's a damn shame Jari doesn't produce more music cause this is so epic
It's your fault, why can't you just give him a million dollars? It's cuz your selfish
@@TheBfutgregTime II its ready now !!
Never say never 😉
THIS IS A FUCKING ANTHEM, I love this band. This song is a masterpiece ❤️
Masterpiece! Thanks for saying that loud! This jewel is something that should be played all over the world!
I never tired to listen this Masterpiece !
Me too homes!
This song is what Wintersun is made of. Art of perfection.
Jukka, welcome to Winterwish. Or wait, was it Nightsun?
Im driving to Lapland listening this exact version. Good times.
Do not forget that this is their fucking LIVE sound...
That's how a Wintersun show should sound like and look like IMO. Raw, Symphonic, agressive. With Jari guitar in hands 🤘🤘.
Still listening to this masterpiece. I've never heared a song like this before. It's an epic journey.
when a black metal warrior explores melodic death and goes absolutely mad with this
If you want some great melodic death metal with the dark atmosphere of black metal... Insomnium
@@w-james9277 thanks. I like Insomnium aswell, but imo wintersun is way better. the lyrics are more catchy
I've been listening all kind of metal band since the last 40 years , Wintersun got to the top of my favorites the first time I heard their music and this feeling just grew up year after year...
Among the many impressive things in this song the work of the drummer is simply insane! This drummer is easily one of the best drummers i saw in my life.
PLAYING THIS AS LOUD AS I CAN BECAUSE OF THE CORONA QUARANTINE!
Me to hellyeh 😈
hell yes show them what real music is!
Same here - in the garden so everyone can listen! :)
Wait what, what is the Corona Beer in quarantine? Or Am I missing something?
@@moonchant CORONA VIRUZ
Kai's timing is incredible
I have to admit that I love Jukka, but in terms of timing, there are few drummers out there with that precise timing
Awesome
Kai is one of the best drummer in this genre, and he is the best match for Wintersun music, his style is totally part of the epicness of your songs! I loved this band from the very beginning and 15 years of Time did not change that, still one of my favourite.
immediately when i heard this music, i thought the drummer makes it happen. and i dont know shit about drumming
@@danielgelencser2275Kai, the drummer on this album, wrote none of it. Wintersun is Jari Mäenpää's (lead vocals) band & he writes all of the music. As far as I know, Kai is now playing drums full time in Nightwish after their original drummer had to step down due to a severe sleep disorder. But Jari is the musical genius of Wintersun. His band mates are always exceptional musicians though. They _HAVE_ to be or else they'd fall flat on their face trying to play Jari's music.
I've seen Wintersun live 3 times & if you've never attended one of their shows then I strongly recommend that you change that. Everyone in the building sings along the entire show which makes it all the more epic. Kai was drumming the first 2 times I seen them but Timo Häkkinen was playing with them the last time I seen them on The Forest Seasons U.S. tour & he was no less impressive. The Metal Archives says that Kai Hahto is still Wintersun's drummer but he is also Nightwish's drummer now so I don't know what's going on with that. Many Metal musicians are in more than 1 active band so he could very well be a full time member of both bands.
Absolute metal masterpiece. Sounds INCREDIBLE on this remaster. Well freaking done boys.
As someone who's listened to metal for decades and never been able to fully get into harsh vocals, I've grown to love a handful of songs but usually I find them either just 'fine' or song-ruining. But the way Jari comes in at 1:35 , and the growls in section 10:10 - 10:50 are so fucking GOOD. Something in Jari's harsh vocals sound so much more layered and dynamic than the usual, dry-sounding grunts and growls you usually hear
Same for me, I don`t like harsh vocals very much usually, but Jari`s harsh vocals then are just a completely different thing, I love Jari`s harsh vocals, it is so beautiful❤
Words can’t describe how absolutely perfect this is. An approximation would be Godlike, epic, beyond human, the apotheosis of music… Wintersun for eternity
Especially that bridge from 4:35 to 4:48, it's simply perfect, every single note and chord.
@@juhah the that follows that also
Amen Brotha! Here in Finland we have and always has been some of the greatest Heavy Metal bands, but nothing can beat Wintersun!
I thought I am a heathen. I figured out that I am able to believe. I believe in Wintersun and our savior Jari.
Nice to hear Kai get to be himself. He's done a great job with Nightwish, but you can plainly see how much he loves what he's doing here. oh..love the shit out of this!
Kai is a Beast on those Drums!
Amazing song... don´t know how often I´ve heard it. Doesn´t get old, always amazing and insanly good! Thx Wintersun
Kai is killing it on the drums!!!
Jag anser att Kai är en av världens bästa trummisar och för mig är han bäst ❤
This is some A+ musical talent 🙌🏼🇳🇴 Incredible
When I listen to music like this I can't help to think about non-metal fans (yes, they do exist even if it makes no sense) that think main stream music is so good. I doubt even 1% of the main stream musicians you hear on the radio could play this song at this level.
I know that everyone don't appreciate this type of music (still don't understand why but that's another story) but regardless you must admire the craftmanship and excellence in performance to do what they're doing. Not only playing it but the writing/composing is next level.
Masterpiece!!!!!, this song will travel across the universe forever and ever.
Ok super 🇵🇱
4:42 This part is sick, I don´t know if non-guitar players realize how difficult this is. Tremoloing those arpegios require absolute precision.
good point
Not to mention that brutal riff right after it with no rests
The viking gods would be proud of you jari jukka kai teemu. Valhalla awaits you. Wintersun Alex
Finn's have their own pagan gods like Ukko, Tapio and Vellamo. And we seek the Tuonela for afterlife, not Valhalla.
Just EVERY time I isten to this song, it gets to me like the first time I heard it. The entire album is a masterpiece, but this is the most powerful song. I just wish there were more of this stuff around. I fear that when Time II comes around, it might not reach up to this level. This album is a once in a lifetime achievement.
Virvum - Illuminance
here as time II got released, and as someone who bought the time package pre sale thingy - time II is as great as I, amazing riffs and solos, ominous clouds into storm has amazing atmosphere just as the first one, and goddamn we got some incredible black metal stuff from jari in the package too. weeks worth of gold turned music