While the word Typhoon does indeed originate from Typhon, they definitely are pronounced quite differently. Also Typhon is more than just snakes, he's a Titan powerful enough to challenge Zeus himself, and the father of Cerberus and Hydra, to name a few other beasties.
Don't care how you pronounce it, as far as I am concerned they pronounced it correctly and you are just nitpicking, but we are trekkers so it's just whom we are, lol
The Typhon class was designed as a FOB/CARRIER/class. In the consol game it was commanded by Commander Worf it came with an experimental holographic cloak. (reason for the large emitters) Which was effective against long range scans when in hiding. With a max warp of four due to it being staging ship it was transported by ships with higher warp capacity. Its secondary function was Fortress mode in which this state it was unable to launch or dock fighters. In this mode all power was diverted to shields an weapons making it a fortress. The bridge was a CNC section. There was no bridge deck. the bottom hangers were rapid fighter launchers to the standard fighter side bays. It was designed to work with fortress mode for maximum deployment of fighters. On a side note, it was also able deploy covert ops teams. Use a variety of fighters.
The escape pod placement makes sense if you consider that the entire center section would have to be open space to accommodate fighter launch, retrieval, movement, rearming, repair, etc. Also, if this has a fortress mode where it collapses down to maximize defense capability, it would have to have an open center.
I'm a big fan of the Typhon. Picked it up in STO a couple of days ago and I absolutely love it. As far as design goes, I think it fits the design language of the time. If we look at the Defiant, we can surmise that the Typhon may have originated as a post-Wolf359 anti-Borg force multiplier. Where the Defiant is an "escort," the Typhon is an "escort carrier." Theoretically, it can also serve as an evacuation platform dependent on how much internal volume there is.
I love the idea of a starfighter carrier in the Star Trek universe. Always been a fan of fighters in general, so having a dedicated carrier makes sense. I know the Akira is supposed to be carrier-like, but at least this one has the specific purpose. I've also always wanted to see a true battleship...something like this design that is heavily shielded and armored, with little scientific stuff, so it can go into the heart of a battle and unleash mass amounts of pulse phaser fire, torpedoes, and electronic countermeasures.
Given what we see in DS9 in both the short Klingon conflict and the Dominion war I think the Typhon would serve as a planetary assault ship. The fighters could do CAS, the large Shuttle bays could also launch landing shuttles. The large transporters could beam down ground troops.
Great to see the Typhon again. For me, any fighter in Star Trek would need really good ECM, to avoid being immediately locked on by enemy weapons. You would probably need dedicated heavier craft/bomber with better shielding and weapons against capital ships vs a multipurpose craft. The latter would go after the bombers and smaller starships. Even then, any bomber would probably be firing torpedoes from longer ranges like our cruise missiles now to keep themselves from being intercepted/shot down.
Yeah, it always seemed to me that fighters could easily work in Trek, assuming that their technology was advanced enough to avoid being easily targeted (and I mean, why not?). Purpose-built, small, highly manouverable and with excellent ECM, with potent micro-photons etc. The perfect harasser and scout craft. Seems to be the case, when you watch how they're deployed in DS9.
I think there might be #25 right above and behind the bridge. I just did a check on some of the old Invasion gameplay, and it does appear to have 24 distinct bays in its design.
6:03 Yes, the Valkyries had warp engines. At the start of multiple missions, you can be seen warping to the site of the mission in a nearby star system, and during play, they act as a generic speed boost (and you can even warp backwards!).
Personally I could see Fighters used in Anti-pirate work in Trek as those would have for the most part converted freighters or shuttlecrafts in their arsenal not top of the line warships, so you could have carrier or 2 Escorting freighters thru an area known to have pirate ambushes instead of sending something like Galaxy, Sovereign or even a Defiant.
It's not a normal Starfleet design because it was designed a mobile starbase. The Valkyries also do have a warp drive I believe they can go up to warp 5
pretty sure Typhon is more or less the same size as the Defiant, it's tiny and Defiant is still 150 meters or so even at low end. The Typhon is about the size of the Sovereign Engineering hull.
I'm give up some typical Star Trek ship saucer design where each crew member has a nice cabin with a window looking out into space and I'm going to do a combat brick where you don't get half your ship accessories dropped after one random hit through the shield.
It's funny. This ship actually quite small, being only slightly larger than the Defiant, but smaller than Voyager. And yet, they talk about it like it's a big chunk of Tritanium and bad choices. I quite like the ship, it's different from the other full carriers, including my beloved Aspero(which I mistakenly thought had an off center bridge tower when I got it) in that it is a full TURRET boat having a custom console that only fits this ship(because it also enables Fortress Mode) that negates the damage reduction on turrets for being a 360° weapon. She's a monster even with bad gear.
You see cap ships missing other cap ships all the time. Not beyond the stretch of imagination that hitting small hyper maneuverable fighters is really difficult. And it would be easy for the Federation to develop drone fighters, that is basically an engine and a phaser array.
I always thought the Typhon was more of a Anti-Piracy or counter insurgency actions. With the added fighters be able to patrol a lot more space, chase down and capture small smuggler ships and scout out criminal bases without detection.
wondering if the aft section is a standard propose propulsion block, to be pulled and upgraded later. she's simple because she's the end point of ablative hull plating
Fighters are a force multiplier. Even if they aren't as effective as a Odyssey class for a sovereign class. But they can keep the enemy busy like nats bug you in the forest.
I think the lack of escape pod hatches can be explained by the ship being heavily armored. It is supposed to be designed for heavy combat. Also another heavily armored ship, the Defiant, had its escape pods hidden behind hidden hatches in the exterior hull so possibly the Typhon does something similar.
15:36 One of my many criticisms of the Intrepid’s unnecessary moving nacelles. When it’s at warp, the nacelles are up and the bussard collectors are behind the saucer section. Well done (sarcasm)! Love the Typhon though I do, that is a point against it.
🖖😎👍The Typhon class truly looks more like it Totally belongs more in the Star Wars universe than in the Star Trek universe with its odd stocky shape and total boxy look of it with just having 4 warp nacelles added to it!🤔?.
21:01 Maybe they’re side escape pods (or escape pod stacks). You wouldn’t see such on thing on most Federation ships where the hull sections are relatively flat (and so the escape pods are only above or below), but on a ship this thick, the sides become valid areas to tuck them away.
Right with you Cpt Foley I was hoping when I saw it that the nacelles only tuck at warp or something, like an Aqarius. I had no idea about this ship. I saw it in Earth orbit at Spacedock and uttered "what in the hell is that?" lol. The thing on the bottom almost looks like a seperate ship with a capsule forward hull. Like a freighter docked to it. The nose on the ship reminds me of the APU cruiser. The whole vibe is like a Expanse ship. It's very interesting.
Typhon - the great king of monsters who battled Zeus for control of the cosmos. Not, typhoon; the sea storm. May you all were thinking of the typhoon as in the NATO designation did the Russian Akula-class super submarine 🤔
Something I wonder about the design that I didn't realize until I saw that read 3/4 view: The red bits at the front of the warp nacelles are Bussard collectors; they pull in ambient hydrogen for the M/A reaction. They're not going to collect a whole lot tucked into the hull like that. :P
I find myself loving this ship. Being a tac carrier in STO really gives it a good punch. I also want to see what ideas STO could come up with subvariants of this, Achilles, and Premontion.
THe Typhon is a beast when setup right. Weirdly enoughnifnyou have the fighters set to their default they aren't great, but if you set them to be super aggressive they pretty much annihilate everything that looks at them lol it's hilarious.
THe giant transport emiiters allowed it to recover the fighters via transporter it was a weird tactic it was said to have, but also for very large evacuations
I remember playing this game back then. And still think it's a really different and interesting design but still clearly starfleet. Still a design I like and it's nice to see her again. Even if I'd probably change a couple things as well but not much. Also such a fun and IMO unique trek game.
I think they the the Defiant style covered escape pods. Also bigger transporter emitters could be pilot recovery, think Trek ejection seats. Beams down pilot to triage center.
The tycoon class I hate being replacement tires in quadruple recovery day however consider long-range saddles can be launched from launch bays so maybe you don't need that many escape pods
I would compare the Typhon class to the BWS Intrepid from Wing Commander 4. She's not a big Fleet Carrier, she's a small Escort Carrier. (Granted the Intrepid was a converted Durango class Destroyer rather than a purpose built ship)
Regarding the idea of fighters in Trek. I've always regarded them as best for things like light patrol or a scout, sniper, and ambush role. I felt it needed more weapons too. Especially point defense. Like what we saw when DS9 got it's upgrades. Maybe a lot more defense. Which leads me to how I never like the idea that the Enterprise just dropped it off and left. Carriers should have escort craft. I like the idea of stacked internal escape pods. It would solve the problem of people scrambling to the outer areas of the ship. This ship always felt like the prototype pushed into service kind. Like "Hey we were testing ideas because of (insert threat). But this new problem showed up. So put this to good use."
Simple put, I have some counter thoughts, and I mean this in a fun manner; not sweaty nerd hammering on a keyboard manner. XD Some things to consider, a Carrier in Star trek I could see it being used more in ground combat operations. (think airstrikes.) As they wouldn't have a need for massive amounts of ships around the planet. Fighter could provide the limited amount of support a ground unit would need verses the highly destructive weapons a Starship would have. (You wouldn't need a orbital strike from a starship to deal with a small entrenchment, but a Micro torpedo or a couple pulse phaser blasts from a fighter in the combat zone would clear it up nicely.) And as for the lack of escape pods, they could be pulling off a shuttles as the primary means of escape. As often seen getting out of a combat zone is often shown to be devastating to pods survivability. The pods could be there as a secondary method to escape in case of hull breaches preventing people from getting to the hangar bays. As for the concern about crews not having enough pilots, it could be a basic rule where a majority of the crew could have some limited pilot training. Not every pilot has worn a yellow (TOS) or Red uniform. (TMP onwards.) How often have we seen Georgi or the such take a shuttle out on their own. We aren't asking them to provide high even combat maneuvers, but get out of the bay and warp out. Anyways, I'll stop rambling, I hope thing provided some food for thought.
A vessel of this size and type would be more suited as a mobile base and heavy resupply vessel. Beyond that, it could easily host Maquis and Bajoran vessels, which are typically the size of large shuttles, not to mention serving a shuttle repair platform, if not a mobile starship repair platform. As an aside, a "fighter" class in STAR TREK wouldn't be the same as a "fighter" from, let's say, STAR WARS. In fact, I would think that a fighter class from the movie THE LAST STAR FIGHTER is more appropriate in a STAR TREK environment.
Honestly, fighter craft engaging ships and other small craft look cool, and that's really all the justifaction Star Trek needs to have fighter craft. As for tactical logic, look at how well clunky Maquis raiders did against Galor class ships - the Cardassians didn't defeat them until the Dominion arrived with overwhelming force.
There wouldn't be a lot more pilots than fighters. Yes pilots would be split into shifts, but if all fighters would be needed, pilots would have to work off shift. And that would be part of their training and expectation of the job if the need arises.
I feel like the Delta Flyer would be reverse engineered once Our Heroes got back home to make even Dominion War era fighters a lot more viable. That said I doubt we'd ever get a proper 25th century Star Trek series that could properly showcase Fightercraft
so 2 things, first once you said it I couldn't unsee it, the phasers do look like solo emitters, what if those odd hexagon things could be solo emitters all over the ship, instead of having long arrays they just have the solo emitters splattered all over for point defense? and second, i always liked the idea of fighters in trek, with capital ships, even the defiant, we always se them follow attack patterns, fighters wouldn't have to do anything of the sort, and the freedom they have to completely fight in 3d space would, or should, make them harder to hit. yes ships have auto targeting systems, but they would have to give lead, and with inertial dampers pilots would be able to make impossible turns and flight capabilities would be off the charts
Honestly, for a "carrier", I would think it's very lacking in firepower! The corners & edges would give the ship the best vantage points for phaser array strips, or just single phasers (in pairs, side-by-side, alternating fire, higher rof)! If they had 2 pairs of torpedoe launchers on opposite sides of the ship's bow, then you'd have good angles for spreading out your firepower! & do the same for the rear of the ship as well! Stacking escape pods would take up alot of room, especially if they are high capacity escape pods! & having then next to your impulse engines (bottom view) isn't a good idea! Since engines are usually targeted, even in Star Trek! The fighter 'launchers' on the bottom, I think would be better if they were angled more forward, towards the battle! However, they should be more protected as they are now! Armor them!! Too exposed to enemy fire! The bottom fighter launchers don't make sense! How do they load them? Elevators...somehow? Tractor beam emitters? Same can be said about the internal ones above!
it has pulse phaser turrets emplacements and quantum torpedo launchers and , 300 crew warp factor 7 maximum 9.2 emergency 9.5 , and 28 fighters they have a squad of pilots number is unknown
i wonder if the reason the typhon doesn't feel Starfleet is it was based on civilian cargo ship. plus when it was in concept stages it was during the dominion war so they were trying new design ideas look at the streamrunner and defiant and to some existent the sovereign and intrepid
Fan canon showcase Typhon as Super massive. I always thought idea Typhon being UNSC infinity esque, where it just comes out of warp, smashes a ship in two by ramming it.
Trekyards EP188 - Typhon Class is One of The Many Trekyards episodes & vignettes i have downloaded for offline viewing, and i was watching it again before starting new one. Did you (either of you) have any idea or hope that the Typhon Carrier would be a part of Star Trek: Online? After i get a new computer, i plan to get the Lifetime subscribtion on my 2 main accounts, then budget for getting the 10th Anniversary Legendary Starship Bundle, Temporal Special Agent Pack & Heritage bundles on BOTH. I consider these three bundles Essential to my fleet, headcanon & Characters. I also plan to get more PS Star Trek games & memory cards for them. So Many great titles i missed out on... I do Love these ships!
Fortress Mode always seemed rather odd, especially coming from Trek. I'll admit I have never had too much love of the typical design of federation starships, this one is much better aesthetically, for myself at least. I've wanted an upscaled version of this that is outfitted like the Motherships from the Homeworld series, you know for long range exploration+ missions...
We don't know what the fighters look like! Or their capabilities! You'd need several dozen fighters, & backup fighters to make this ship work! Rotate fighter 'wings' when in battle! Taking lots of time repairing damaged, & heavily damaged fighters (automation?)! A ton of supplies dedicated just for fighter operations, micro-torpedos(assuming micro-torpedo launchers on fighters, would be just awesome)(highway to the danger zone intensifying), armor & shields(required), specifically designed impulse engine(s), & possibly more! Not mentioning fighter pilots, their accommodations, & their location to the fighter bay(s) (fast response time)! Pulse phaser gun(s)(just thought of that)?
Fighters would need lock-scramblers [Coded of course] possibly two side drones with extra shield emitters. Analog controls are faster than typing things out like on a bridge or shuttle. Do fighters need NA cells? or is that too Tie Fighter?
I started out okay with fighters in Trek, but have come around to thinking that fighters don't really belong in Star Trek outside of desperate circumstances. Fighters in Star Trek would be more like Defiants, B'rels, and Jem'Hadar fighters. I really hope that BSG looking shape on the underside was deliberate as a nod to the influence of that series.
They say this doesn't have the right feel yet tne defiant looks like a generic sci-fy channel alien of the week ship and not have a trek feel at all, lol
With the escape pods the ship might not need as many because the fighters and shuttles crews might not need to get to pods because of the ship is under attack chanses are fighters are already launched and flight crews would already be in the bays to get to shuttles or runabouts
With the fighter bay the way it looks. I can see those bays more as mega torpedoe bays. And the fact this ship has a fortress mode. I think that would work better imo.
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If MACO had survived into the 24th-century I'd see the Typhon & it's fighters assigned to them, a military arm of the Federation. It's definitely a unique design, but damn its a brick. The one big downside to this design, the bussards are chocked off.
Why not including shoots from the PS1 Cutscenes where you can see this thing hanging on the underside from the E to get a feeling of the size. Thing wasnt that big at all, very compact design
Correct me if I am wrong, but the red part at the front of an engine nacelle is described as a bussard collector. On the normal earth ship configuration, it makes sense that the deflector Shields redirects the matter to those collectors! But what on earth makes a bussard collector buried so deep into a ship. For me, all those fanboys simply put things together without any technical knowledge at all. Not even the star trek pseudo knowledge...
I love our Star Trek Battlestar
Its pronounced "Tai-Fon" not Typhoon", the name comes from Greek mythology, a giant with snake like features.
Yes we miss spoke, was wondering how long until someone felt the need to write a comment.
Hope you enjoy the video
While the word Typhoon does indeed originate from Typhon, they definitely are pronounced quite differently.
Also Typhon is more than just snakes, he's a Titan powerful enough to challenge Zeus himself, and the father of Cerberus and Hydra, to name a few other beasties.
Don't care how you pronounce it, as far as I am concerned they pronounced it correctly and you are just nitpicking, but we are trekkers so it's just whom we are, lol
The primal titan Typhon from Greek pre-Olympian myth.
@@valor1omega We care how it's pronounced because they're talking about the starship Typhon and not damn ocean Typhoons.
The Typhon class was designed as a FOB/CARRIER/class. In the consol game it was commanded by Commander Worf it came with an experimental holographic cloak. (reason for the large emitters) Which was effective against long range scans when in hiding. With a max warp of four due to it being staging ship it was transported by ships with higher warp capacity. Its secondary function was Fortress mode in which this state it was unable to launch or dock fighters. In this mode all power was diverted to shields an weapons making it a fortress. The bridge was a CNC section. There was no bridge deck. the bottom hangers were rapid fighter launchers to the standard fighter side bays. It was designed to work with fortress mode for maximum deployment of fighters. On a side note, it was also able deploy covert ops teams. Use a variety of fighters.
The escape pod placement makes sense if you consider that the entire center section would have to be open space to accommodate fighter launch, retrieval, movement, rearming, repair, etc. Also, if this has a fortress mode where it collapses down to maximize defense capability, it would have to have an open center.
I'm a big fan of the Typhon. Picked it up in STO a couple of days ago and I absolutely love it. As far as design goes, I think it fits the design language of the time. If we look at the Defiant, we can surmise that the Typhon may have originated as a post-Wolf359 anti-Borg force multiplier. Where the Defiant is an "escort," the Typhon is an "escort carrier." Theoretically, it can also serve as an evacuation platform dependent on how much internal volume there is.
I think the reason it has giant transporter emitters is for emergency beem outs of their fighter pilots
I love the idea of a starfighter carrier in the Star Trek universe. Always been a fan of fighters in general, so having a dedicated carrier makes sense. I know the Akira is supposed to be carrier-like, but at least this one has the specific purpose. I've also always wanted to see a true battleship...something like this design that is heavily shielded and armored, with little scientific stuff, so it can go into the heart of a battle and unleash mass amounts of pulse phaser fire, torpedoes, and electronic countermeasures.
Given what we see in DS9 in both the short Klingon conflict and the Dominion war I think the Typhon would serve as a planetary assault ship. The fighters could do CAS, the large Shuttle bays could also launch landing shuttles. The large transporters could beam down ground troops.
I concur
Great to see the Typhon again.
For me, any fighter in Star Trek would need really good ECM, to avoid being immediately locked on by enemy weapons. You would probably need dedicated heavier craft/bomber with better shielding and weapons against capital ships vs a multipurpose craft. The latter would go after the bombers and smaller starships. Even then, any bomber would probably be firing torpedoes from longer ranges like our cruise missiles now to keep themselves from being intercepted/shot down.
Yeah, it always seemed to me that fighters could easily work in Trek, assuming that their technology was advanced enough to avoid being easily targeted (and I mean, why not?). Purpose-built, small, highly manouverable and with excellent ECM, with potent micro-photons etc. The perfect harasser and scout craft. Seems to be the case, when you watch how they're deployed in DS9.
Originally it only had 8 launch bays. On the STO version I count 24.
I think there might be #25 right above and behind the bridge. I just did a check on some of the old Invasion gameplay, and it does appear to have 24 distinct bays in its design.
6:03 Yes, the Valkyries had warp engines. At the start of multiple missions, you can be seen warping to the site of the mission in a nearby star system, and during play, they act as a generic speed boost (and you can even warp backwards!).
Personally I could see Fighters used in Anti-pirate work in Trek as those would have for the most part converted freighters or shuttlecrafts in their arsenal not top of the line warships, so you could have carrier or 2 Escorting freighters thru an area known to have pirate ambushes instead of sending something like Galaxy, Sovereign or even a Defiant.
All the fighters act as escape crafts. So, you don't need a bunch of extra escape pods.
I can see this thing showing up at a planetary disaster and launching relief shuttles and operating as a forward base for such in peace times
Someone needs to post a pic of fortress mode.
It's not a normal Starfleet design because it was designed a mobile starbase.
The Valkyries also do have a warp drive I believe they can go up to warp 5
I think it would look more awesome to have 2 Defiant's permantly attached on the bottom of the carrier 👍
pretty sure Typhon is more or less the same size as the Defiant, it's tiny and Defiant is still 150 meters or so even at low end. The Typhon is about the size of the Sovereign Engineering hull.
I'm give up some typical Star Trek ship saucer design where each crew member has a nice cabin with a window looking out into space and I'm going to do a combat brick where you don't get half your ship accessories dropped after one random hit through the shield.
BEST....SHIP...EVER!! Add advanced support runabouts and all the traits for hangar pets, and yeahhhh so great.
What a beautiful, cool, fantastic ship
I collect carriers whenever I can in game.
I have a few so I will be adding this ship to my list of owned crafts when I can
Federation is exploring compacted subspace technology... boom its bigger on the inside!
OMG I just picked it up on PS5. By far favorite ship in my fleet. Loved Star Trek Invasion
It's funny. This ship actually quite small, being only slightly larger than the Defiant, but smaller than Voyager. And yet, they talk about it like it's a big chunk of Tritanium and bad choices.
I quite like the ship, it's different from the other full carriers, including my beloved Aspero(which I mistakenly thought had an off center bridge tower when I got it) in that it is a full TURRET boat having a custom console that only fits this ship(because it also enables Fortress Mode) that negates the damage reduction on turrets for being a 360° weapon. She's a monster even with bad gear.
I love my spacebrick.
For a brick it flew pretty good
You see cap ships missing other cap ships all the time. Not beyond the stretch of imagination that hitting small hyper maneuverable fighters is really difficult. And it would be easy for the Federation to develop drone fighters, that is basically an engine and a phaser array.
I always thought the Typhon was more of a Anti-Piracy or counter insurgency actions. With the added fighters be able to patrol a lot more space, chase down and capture small smuggler ships and scout out criminal bases without detection.
It is the Tai PHON not typhoon. The Typhoon is a soviet missile sub named Red October.
wondering if the aft section is a standard propose propulsion block, to be pulled and upgraded later. she's simple because she's the end point of ablative hull plating
Fighters are a force multiplier. Even if they aren't as effective as a Odyssey class for a sovereign class. But they can keep the enemy busy like nats bug you in the forest.
I think the lack of escape pod hatches can be explained by the ship being heavily armored. It is supposed to be designed for heavy combat. Also another heavily armored ship, the Defiant, had its escape pods hidden behind hidden hatches in the exterior hull so possibly the Typhon does something similar.
15:36 One of my many criticisms of the Intrepid’s unnecessary moving nacelles. When it’s at warp, the nacelles are up and the bussard collectors are behind the saucer section. Well done (sarcasm)!
Love the Typhon though I do, that is a point against it.
🖖😎👍The Typhon class truly looks more like it Totally belongs more in the Star Wars universe than in the Star Trek universe with its odd stocky shape and total boxy look of it with just having 4 warp nacelles added to it!🤔?.
21:01 Maybe they’re side escape pods (or escape pod stacks). You wouldn’t see such on thing on most Federation ships where the hull sections are relatively flat (and so the escape pods are only above or below), but on a ship this thick, the sides become valid areas to tuck them away.
Right with you Cpt Foley I was hoping when I saw it that the nacelles only tuck at warp or something, like an Aqarius. I had no idea about this ship. I saw it in Earth orbit at Spacedock and uttered "what in the hell is that?" lol. The thing on the bottom almost looks like a seperate ship with a capsule forward hull. Like a freighter docked to it. The nose on the ship reminds me of the APU cruiser. The whole vibe is like a Expanse ship. It's very interesting.
Typhon - the great king of monsters who battled Zeus for control of the cosmos. Not, typhoon; the sea storm. May you all were thinking of the typhoon as in the NATO designation did the Russian Akula-class super submarine 🤔
Something I wonder about the design that I didn't realize until I saw that read 3/4 view: The red bits at the front of the warp nacelles are Bussard collectors; they pull in ambient hydrogen for the M/A reaction. They're not going to collect a whole lot tucked into the hull like that. :P
love the design but prefer the size of the Valkyrie version, 6 nascelles and hanger bays for 2 defiant class ships.
It's taken me years but finally during this video I shouted 'Scorpio'. This ship reminds me of Blake's 7 Scorpio
I find myself loving this ship. Being a tac carrier in STO really gives it a good punch. I also want to see what ideas STO could come up with subvariants of this, Achilles, and Premontion.
With all those hangars and launch ports, escape pods could be launched from those too.
THe Typhon is a beast when setup right. Weirdly enoughnifnyou have the fighters set to their default they aren't great, but if you set them to be super aggressive they pretty much annihilate everything that looks at them lol it's hilarious.
THe giant transport emiiters allowed it to recover the fighters via transporter it was a weird tactic it was said to have, but also for very large evacuations
Good ship, we need more bridge variants.
I remember playing this game back then. And still think it's a really different and interesting design but still clearly starfleet. Still a design I like and it's nice to see her again. Even if I'd probably change a couple things as well but not much.
Also such a fun and IMO unique trek game.
It’s about Time to extend the 4 Nascelles take a Nebula Class Saucer Section and make a stunning Dreadnoght out of it !
I think they the the Defiant style covered escape pods. Also bigger transporter emitters could be pilot recovery, think Trek ejection seats. Beams down pilot to triage center.
1:20 looks like someone took the design from the husnock and put a usb C adapter on the front of it .
This should boost star fleets planetary assault capabilities
I have both(still). STO version is turrets + 1 dual and torps build.
The transformer was named Skullcruncher. I was supposed to voice him and weordwolf in a fan dub.
The tycoon class I hate being replacement tires in quadruple recovery day however consider long-range saddles can be launched from launch bays so maybe you don't need that many escape pods
I would compare the Typhon class to the BWS Intrepid from Wing Commander 4. She's not a big Fleet Carrier, she's a small Escort Carrier. (Granted the Intrepid was a converted Durango class Destroyer rather than a purpose built ship)
Battletrek Galactica is all this is. Also, am I the only one noticing the Viper-ish look of the fighters?
A carrier can be very useful as a mobile base
Regarding the idea of fighters in Trek. I've always regarded them as best for things like light patrol or a scout, sniper, and ambush role.
I felt it needed more weapons too. Especially point defense. Like what we saw when DS9 got it's upgrades. Maybe a lot more defense. Which leads me to how I never like the idea that the Enterprise just dropped it off and left. Carriers should have escort craft.
I like the idea of stacked internal escape pods. It would solve the problem of people scrambling to the outer areas of the ship.
This ship always felt like the prototype pushed into service kind. Like "Hey we were testing ideas because of (insert threat). But this new problem showed up. So put this to good use."
I wish it was the fan Valkyrie class that Carries defiants so it could be like the Terran Styx and her sister but defiants
I went for the Breen Dreadnaught Cruiser.
I’m curious about how the warp engines function with the bussard collecters pushed right into the bulky middle section?
If the nacelles extended outwards to the side on pylons it could solve the busard problem and look like a nod to the botany bay
Simple put, I have some counter thoughts, and I mean this in a fun manner; not sweaty nerd hammering on a keyboard manner. XD
Some things to consider, a Carrier in Star trek I could see it being used more in ground combat operations. (think airstrikes.) As they wouldn't have a need for massive amounts of ships around the planet. Fighter could provide the limited amount of support a ground unit would need verses the highly destructive weapons a Starship would have. (You wouldn't need a orbital strike from a starship to deal with a small entrenchment, but a Micro torpedo or a couple pulse phaser blasts from a fighter in the combat zone would clear it up nicely.)
And as for the lack of escape pods, they could be pulling off a shuttles as the primary means of escape. As often seen getting out of a combat zone is often shown to be devastating to pods survivability. The pods could be there as a secondary method to escape in case of hull breaches preventing people from getting to the hangar bays. As for the concern about crews not having enough pilots, it could be a basic rule where a majority of the crew could have some limited pilot training. Not every pilot has worn a yellow (TOS) or Red uniform. (TMP onwards.) How often have we seen Georgi or the such take a shuttle out on their own. We aren't asking them to provide high even combat maneuvers, but get out of the bay and warp out.
Anyways, I'll stop rambling, I hope thing provided some food for thought.
A vessel of this size and type would be more suited as a mobile base and heavy resupply vessel. Beyond that, it could easily host Maquis and Bajoran vessels, which are typically the size of large shuttles, not to mention serving a shuttle repair platform, if not a mobile starship repair platform. As an aside, a "fighter" class in STAR TREK wouldn't be the same as a "fighter" from, let's say, STAR WARS. In fact, I would think that a fighter class from the movie THE LAST STAR FIGHTER is more appropriate in a STAR TREK environment.
Honestly, fighter craft engaging ships and other small craft look cool, and that's really all the justifaction Star Trek needs to have fighter craft.
As for tactical logic, look at how well clunky Maquis raiders did against Galor class ships - the Cardassians didn't defeat them until the Dominion arrived with overwhelming force.
There wouldn't be a lot more pilots than fighters. Yes pilots would be split into shifts, but if all fighters would be needed, pilots would have to work off shift. And that would be part of their training and expectation of the job if the need arises.
I feel like the Delta Flyer would be reverse engineered once Our Heroes got back home to make even Dominion War era fighters a lot more viable. That said I doubt we'd ever get a proper 25th century Star Trek series that could properly showcase Fightercraft
Most of the crew be pilots prob but most be energieering aft and tactical fore, maintenance flight crew hanger
After should have shuttle bays for rescue runabouts do Valkyries have escape pods like hammer heads from space above and beyond or is it like xwing
I like the design, but i think it would be cooler as a defiant-like ship.
A big package in a small size.
Like it is now its m8re like a power fantasy.
so 2 things, first once you said it I couldn't unsee it, the phasers do look like solo emitters, what if those odd hexagon things could be solo emitters all over the ship, instead of having long arrays they just have the solo emitters splattered all over for point defense? and second, i always liked the idea of fighters in trek, with capital ships, even the defiant, we always se them follow attack patterns, fighters wouldn't have to do anything of the sort, and the freedom they have to completely fight in 3d space would, or should, make them harder to hit. yes ships have auto targeting systems, but they would have to give lead, and with inertial dampers pilots would be able to make impossible turns and flight capabilities would be off the charts
Honestly, for a "carrier", I would think it's very lacking in firepower! The corners & edges would give the ship the best vantage points for phaser array strips, or just single phasers (in pairs, side-by-side, alternating fire, higher rof)! If they had 2 pairs of torpedoe launchers on opposite sides of the ship's bow, then you'd have good angles for spreading out your firepower! & do the same for the rear of the ship as well! Stacking escape pods would take up alot of room, especially if they are high capacity escape pods! & having then next to your impulse engines (bottom view) isn't a good idea! Since engines are usually targeted, even in Star Trek! The fighter 'launchers' on the bottom, I think would be better if they were angled more forward, towards the battle! However, they should be more protected as they are now! Armor them!! Too exposed to enemy fire! The bottom fighter launchers don't make sense! How do they load them? Elevators...somehow? Tractor beam emitters? Same can be said about the internal ones above!
escape pods may be armoured like the defiant class.... ala the valiant with red squadron cadets.
it has pulse phaser turrets emplacements and quantum torpedo launchers and , 300 crew warp factor 7 maximum 9.2 emergency 9.5 , and 28 fighters they have a squad of pilots number is unknown
i wonder if the reason the typhon doesn't feel Starfleet is it was based on civilian cargo ship. plus when it was in concept stages it was during the dominion war so they were trying new design ideas look at the streamrunner and defiant and to some existent the sovereign and intrepid
Fan canon showcase Typhon as Super massive. I always thought idea Typhon being UNSC infinity esque, where it just comes out of warp, smashes a ship in two by ramming it.
you're thinking of the USS Valkyrie fan redesign, that version also has 6 nacelles instead of 4
Trekyards EP188 - Typhon Class is One of The Many Trekyards episodes & vignettes i have downloaded for offline viewing, and i was watching it again before starting new one.
Did you (either of you) have any idea or hope that the Typhon Carrier would be a part of Star Trek: Online?
After i get a new computer, i plan to get the Lifetime subscribtion on my 2 main accounts, then budget for getting the 10th Anniversary Legendary Starship Bundle, Temporal Special Agent Pack & Heritage bundles on BOTH.
I consider these three bundles Essential to my fleet, headcanon & Characters.
I also plan to get more PS Star Trek games & memory cards for them. So Many great titles i missed out on...
I do Love these ships!
Injave the bundle, that typhon makes one hell of a cannon turret carrier.
Fortress Mode always seemed rather odd, especially coming from Trek.
I'll admit I have never had too much love of the typical design of federation starships, this one is much better aesthetically, for myself at least.
I've wanted an upscaled version of this that is outfitted like the Motherships from the Homeworld series, you know for long range exploration+ missions...
We don't know what the fighters look like! Or their capabilities! You'd need several dozen fighters, & backup fighters to make this ship work! Rotate fighter 'wings' when in battle! Taking lots of time repairing damaged, & heavily damaged fighters (automation?)! A ton of supplies dedicated just for fighter operations, micro-torpedos(assuming micro-torpedo launchers on fighters, would be just awesome)(highway to the danger zone intensifying), armor & shields(required), specifically designed impulse engine(s), & possibly more! Not mentioning fighter pilots, their accommodations, & their location to the fighter bay(s) (fast response time)! Pulse phaser gun(s)(just thought of that)?
Fighters would need lock-scramblers [Coded of course] possibly two side drones with extra shield emitters. Analog controls are faster than typing things out like on a bridge or shuttle.
Do fighters need NA cells? or is that too Tie Fighter?
Is it just me, or does it look like the back part with the warp engines can detach and warp out in case of danger?
I started out okay with fighters in Trek, but have come around to thinking that fighters don't really belong in Star Trek outside of desperate circumstances. Fighters in Star Trek would be more like Defiants, B'rels, and Jem'Hadar fighters.
I really hope that BSG looking shape on the underside was deliberate as a nod to the influence of that series.
What would a starship look like if Uss Prometheus and uss voyager are combined in one starship without multi vector assault mode. Thoughts?
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They say this doesn't have the right feel yet tne defiant looks like a generic sci-fy channel alien of the week ship and not have a trek feel at all, lol
Is that the transport ship counsellor Troi recommends? 🖖😄
Typhoon
Typhon
With the escape pods the ship might not need as many because the fighters and shuttles crews might not need to get to pods because of the ship is under attack chanses are fighters are already launched and flight crews would already be in the bays to get to shuttles or runabouts
do you guys do comissions for making 3d models of ships?
With the fighter bay the way it looks. I can see those bays more as mega torpedoe bays. And the fact this ship has a fortress mode. I think that would work better imo.
If people who have this on STO doesn’t name it either Galactica or Pegasus, you have no soul
20:37 Skullcrusher .
The design doesn't seem to care about engineering's bussard collectors working efficiently.
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Please do a vid on the USS Aurora of Aurora Trek! 🖖
Typhon is pronounced tie-fawn. You’re saying it like the type of storm typhoon.
so gabriel bell arrives today in san francisco, sanctuary district A.
and that's the day the original gabriel bell dies, but the replacement will live until september 3rd.
your opinion on that?
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If MACO had survived into the 24th-century I'd see the Typhon & it's fighters assigned to them, a military arm of the Federation. It's definitely a unique design, but damn its a brick. The one big downside to this design, the bussards are chocked off.
Star trek transfoms in to Mass effect
Why not including shoots from the PS1 Cutscenes where you can see this thing hanging on the underside from the E to get a feeling of the size. Thing wasnt that big at all, very compact design
Typhon, pronounced ty-fon.
Typhoon, pronounced Ty,-foon.
Other than that, another great video.😊
Correct me if I am wrong, but the red part at the front of an engine nacelle is described as a bussard collector.
On the normal earth ship configuration, it makes sense that the deflector Shields redirects the matter to those collectors! But what on earth makes a bussard collector buried so deep into a ship.
For me, all those fanboys simply put things together without any technical knowledge at all. Not even the star trek pseudo knowledge...
Tie fawn.