id watched this game randomly a few days ago just tuning mbl briefly and the skirms running in circles triggered my memory lmao daut went on to win after mbl went for the turks ram push with no hotkeys.
Hey, I'm green in that second clip! Thanks for the small tips, they are very helpful. I couldn't have asked for a better birthday present! I did go on to win the game.
Idea was more for the audience to be our competition and playing along, so me and Hera in this case could discuss back and forth and try to agree on something.
I thought the game is Hera vs TheViper. I was first a little confused at first, but then pleasantly surprised when they started discussing together. They come across like teammates not competitors.
This is one great point for Hera joining GL. Not even the competitive aspect, but strengthen the community aspect where an AoE content creator and player certainly can use all the support he gets to keep it sustainable.
1: 1750 ELO (5 pts Pog) 2: 1600 ELO (2 pts) 3: 900 ELO (5 again!) 4: 1600 ELO (holy shit what?? 😂 0 pts) 5: This is my level! 😁 1300 ELO (5 pts again!) 17 pts in total, but I got really lucky with the 5-pointers, all closely within that 30-pt interval.
4:05 That is the most purple red I have ever seen. Anyway, I liked the concept of the video, and I would really like to see more of these in the future. As other comments have already pointed out, it would also be nice to see TheViper and Hera compete against each other with their predictions. Gretings.
Great idea, video and edits! ❤ My additions: Spread the ELO points a little (within 500, 300, 200, 100 and 50 for 1-10 points. Option of the players ressources as screenshot (without VIL info) for only half the points. Bonus point for picking the actual winner of the game. 😊
Excellent video. I hope we see this regularly. Some suggestions for next time: would be interesting to know their civ predictions were accurate ie include civs in the reveal; it would be cool to see what the build they were doing and who won in the end ie a quick fast forward through the game at the reveal; longer clips would have been nice too
This is great! I might also suggest taking one still frame at a random point in the game so you can both see everything, map, number of vils on each resource, units on the map etc (just no movement of anything)
Fun series. I think for clip 3 the wall off could have been a hint to guess a bit higher. It doesn't look nice but seems to be rather an attempt to wall off against a castle drop...
Video was very enjoyable! I appreciate the discussions to determine ELO, but maybe it as a competition of sorts might make it a bit more interesting. Sort of like a counter for how far off the ELO was on each guess perhaps. Like 5 clips and whoever had the fewest accumulated points of difference off the ELOs would win sort of thing. How to balance that with the great analysis and discussions is tricky however. hmm. Perhaps if it is to be cooperative have a set target goal for both in difference (like arbitrarily 1000 points) and have them work together to try to get under that for all differences totaled. Or, if this is to be a series that stays around, perhaps just have a running 'best' total, and see if they can get as close to a 'zero difference' in ELO as possible. If different guests appear to guess along side Viper, it could be like a friendly competition to see which pair gets closest to perfectly guessing 0 difference as well.
Muted after G1 so I wouldn't be influenced by Vipi and Hera too much. Really impressive how much info they get out of such a small clip! G1: 1750 (5pts) G2: 1615 (2 pts) G3: 900 (5 pts) G4: 2100 (looks like some Survivalist strat - for both blue and red) G5: 1525 (no stand ground on archers was somewhat a giveaway it was lower)
You could do it where Viper guesses one player's elo and Hera guesses the other player's elo from the clip, that way the competition aspect makes more sense
The arena game with mining camp game 3 I guess, this is well known at 900 elo, lower than that there is no reason to do so, because no one lower than 900 castle drop on arena, so they create a meta to wall inside the walls like that
14 points for me - that Daut vs MbL one threw me also off completely, that could've been anything from 1600-2200 imo. the opening with the forward archery range indicated something lower to me. clip1: 1850 -> 2 points clip2: 1595 -> 2 points clip3: 950 -> 5 points clip4: 1720 -> 0 points clip5: 1250 -> 5 points Both Hera and Viper have too little idea how those lower players play and what their strengths and thinking are.
Fun series! And great edits as always. It would help me to have a "+x points" after the elo reveal to highlight how many they got from the most recent round vs the total score.
The 3rd one they clearly underestimated. Poor mining camp or not, there was a building wall. You don't get those at 600ELO. The rest I was pretty well in line with the pros, and got 3 pts total.
Love this new video idea, next time you should do a "Versus" Tatoh or DauT or T90 instead of "together" to make it a little competitive if you both disagree (of course still discuss what's happening, it's all fun).
The only one where I immediately had a much better idea than the pros was the 1270s. Those guys looked slightly better than me. Being able to control multiple armies at once is really difficult for me, but their play-style looked similar to what I would do. The were pretty much playing it the same as I would, but with better multitasking.
This is a very good content, just a small hint for you , when you see more than 10 archers, it can not be below 1000 elo. Basically no one play archers in low elo. 11
The skirm killing that FARM at the end there. Would have jumped an Elo guess another 100-150 at least I think - if that had have happened! BUT... people can't just have off days/games even? :(
This one was not as hard as the hera channel video, but there were still some big surprises. 1750, 1400, 1100, 1600, 1150 were my guesses :) Laughed my ass of at the MBL/Daut game
its interesting to me that all my guesses where very close, except for the daut vs mbl. Looks like the game is madness and crazy when below 800 elo, then starts to be meta until 2k, and then it becomes madness and crazy again for the pros
800-1k is the weirdest ELO. You might get an 800 who is pretty decent, but needs to work on builds. Then you'll get a 950 and you question whether they've touched a mouse and keyboard before or if they've even been there for half the match. Teams turns this up max.
My guesses: Clip1:1750elo:5points, Clip2:1800elo:1point, Clip3:900elo:5points, Clip4:2500elo:1point(I saw this live and vaguely remembered that maybe its dragonstar playing or watching a rec), Clip5:1400elo:1point
Feeling like the scoring system here is way too draconian. There should be some reward for even landing in the right 500elo segment. Either that, or more clips per guess to see more of what's going on. The latter is obviously more prep/edit work, but I think that would make the challenge better.
I got four points overall. I guessed the MBL vs Daut game as 1380 though… I feel like I’ve seen micro like that down at my elo. Apparently I’m very wrong…
Check the other episode on Hera's channel: ruclips.net/video/0hqI9ZL51gE/видео.html 👍
Would you like to see more?
definitely
Yes ! T90 would be a beast at this
Yes! This was a lot of fun, like a good gameshow akin to Masmorra's quizzes 😀
Please continue to include one MbL clip per video because it gets a laugh every time
yes please
Mbl & Daut getting confused for 1600 elo 😂😂😂
id watched this game randomly a few days ago just tuning mbl briefly and the skirms running in circles triggered my memory lmao daut went on to win after mbl went for the turks ram push with no hotkeys.
Final guess 2100 and their average 2600. Why did they get 2 points??
@@jonaszwojnar2483 the 2 points is the total they had so far, not so great 11
Hey, I'm green in that second clip! Thanks for the small tips, they are very helpful. I couldn't have asked for a better birthday present!
I did go on to win the game.
Happy birthday!
@@thiswillbeyournameacrossal2153 Thank you!
The Mbl Daut plot twist made me laugh!!!!
Lmao that slow zoomout on the stone being the entire clip fucking sent me.
Yeah that was hilarious :D Good clip!
lamo same, that was even better than MbL/DauT bait
Great idea but wouldn't it be funnier if both Hera and Viper had to guess seperatly ? Like the closest guess wins the points ?
yes and no
Kinda yeah, but the arguments back and forth are great.
Idea was more for the audience to be our competition and playing along, so me and Hera in this case could discuss back and forth and try to agree on something.
I think best of both worlds would be daut and tatoh being another team guessing the same clips
@@TheViperAOE it's more fun this way in my opinion, it's fun to hear both of your perspectives before you try to reach a consensus
Hera trashtalking the whole mid elo scene of AoE2
TheViper is the most wholesome goat ever, and Hera is following his footsteps. Love the AoE2 community.
I thought the game is Hera vs TheViper. I was first a little confused at first, but then pleasantly surprised when they started discussing together. They come across like teammates not competitors.
@@nostalji75 They actually are teammates now :)
This is one great point for Hera joining GL. Not even the competitive aspect, but strengthen the community aspect where an AoE content creator and player certainly can use all the support he gets to keep it sustainable.
8:43 he is getting the stone upgrade man 11.
1: 1750 ELO (5 pts Pog)
2: 1600 ELO (2 pts)
3: 900 ELO (5 again!)
4: 1600 ELO (holy shit what?? 😂 0 pts)
5: This is my level! 😁 1300 ELO (5 pts again!)
17 pts in total, but I got really lucky with the 5-pointers, all closely within that 30-pt interval.
Strong performance!
Hera and Viper getting outmicroed by 2.5k elo at guessing
High ELO watcher
You know your game man
how you guess the 5th one? i think a 1.3k should have normally dont better at multitasking
16:30 Please god look at the stone miners with the palisade still up. 😂😂
mbl confirmed 11
Clip 4 results had me rolling 😂
That was so fun. We need more of these already.
lOVE the format! Always great to see the best players engage with the community in different ways
4:05 That is the most purple red I have ever seen.
Anyway, I liked the concept of the video, and I would really like to see more of these in the future. As other comments have already pointed out, it would also be nice to see TheViper and Hera compete against each other with their predictions.
Gretings.
Match 1: 1750 (5 pts)
Match 2: 1275 (0 pts)
Match 3: 400 (0 pts)
Match 4: 1450 (0 pts)
Match 5: 900 (0 pts)
Great idea, video and edits! ❤
My additions:
Spread the ELO points a little (within 500, 300, 200, 100 and 50 for 1-10 points.
Option of the players ressources as screenshot (without VIL info) for only half the points.
Bonus point for picking the actual winner of the game. 😊
Excellent video. I hope we see this regularly. Some suggestions for next time: would be interesting to know their civ predictions were accurate ie include civs in the reveal; it would be cool to see what the build they were doing and who won in the end ie a quick fast forward through the game at the reveal; longer clips would have been nice too
This is good content. I think having a format of pros vs casters in this style would be really cool
I guessed the following:
1) 1750 (nailed it)
2) 1550
3) 1150
4) 1600 (lmao)
5) 1250 (nailed it)
Dude I literally thought that last one was AI vs AI they were exactly the same hahhah
Thought about that too but lower level AI won't wall and higher level AI will react and garrison vils quickly (even too quickly, if anything)
This is great content! Would love to see more.
This is great! I might also suggest taking one still frame at a random point in the game so you can both see everything, map, number of vils on each resource, units on the map etc (just no movement of anything)
Fun series. I think for clip 3 the wall off could have been a hint to guess a bit higher. It doesn't look nice but seems to be rather an attempt to wall off against a castle drop...
Video was very enjoyable! I appreciate the discussions to determine ELO, but maybe it as a competition of sorts might make it a bit more interesting. Sort of like a counter for how far off the ELO was on each guess perhaps. Like 5 clips and whoever had the fewest accumulated points of difference off the ELOs would win sort of thing. How to balance that with the great analysis and discussions is tricky however. hmm.
Perhaps if it is to be cooperative have a set target goal for both in difference (like arbitrarily 1000 points) and have them work together to try to get under that for all differences totaled. Or, if this is to be a series that stays around, perhaps just have a running 'best' total, and see if they can get as close to a 'zero difference' in ELO as possible.
If different guests appear to guess along side Viper, it could be like a friendly competition to see which pair gets closest to perfectly guessing 0 difference as well.
I guessed MBL and Daut at 1300 elo :D
funny because these matches are literally all me on diff days
6:33 the mangonel is going through the villagers
I like how Hera is in love with the word "based" 1111
Muted after G1 so I wouldn't be influenced by Vipi and Hera too much. Really impressive how much info they get out of such a small clip!
G1: 1750 (5pts)
G2: 1615 (2 pts)
G3: 900 (5 pts)
G4: 2100 (looks like some Survivalist strat - for both blue and red)
G5: 1525 (no stand ground on archers was somewhat a giveaway it was lower)
The music is an absolute bop. Is that from anything or custom made for this video?
Super fun concept !
You could do it where Viper guesses one player's elo and Hera guesses the other player's elo from the clip, that way the competition aspect makes more sense
Amazing content guys... you just keep bringing us back to the game in different ways.. love your GL scenarios as well..
This sounds really fun!!!
That is a cool and entertainig format!
Keep it up!
:D
The arena game with mining camp game 3 I guess,
this is well known at 900 elo,
lower than that there is no reason to do so, because no one lower than 900 castle drop on arena, so they create a meta to wall inside the walls like that
Need more of this!
That was fun. More please!
14 points for me - that Daut vs MbL one threw me also off completely, that could've been anything from 1600-2200 imo. the opening with the forward archery range indicated something lower to me.
clip1:
1850 -> 2 points
clip2:
1595 -> 2 points
clip3:
950 -> 5 points
clip4:
1720 -> 0 points
clip5:
1250 -> 5 points
Both Hera and Viper have too little idea how those lower players play and what their strengths and thinking are.
Fun series! And great edits as always. It would help me to have a "+x points" after the elo reveal to highlight how many they got from the most recent round vs the total score.
I clicked on this assuming it was one of Levy Rozman's (Gotham Chess) videos, but it was still nice to see someone adopting this idea for AoE2.
The 3rd one they clearly underestimated. Poor mining camp or not, there was a building wall. You don't get those at 600ELO. The rest I was pretty well in line with the pros, and got 3 pts total.
Great series! U should put the time played in the clip to help the gueses a little bit.
that music you put before every clip is so similar to the little big-uno
I like this but would be even better as a competition between Hera and Viper both guessing!
bring the whole gl on this, even others outside of it
Great videos guys keep them coming.
Love this new video idea, next time you should do a "Versus" Tatoh or DauT or T90 instead of "together" to make it a little competitive if you both disagree (of course still discuss what's happening, it's all fun).
The only one where I immediately had a much better idea than the pros was the 1270s. Those guys looked slightly better than me. Being able to control multiple armies at once is really difficult for me, but their play-style looked similar to what I would do. The were pretty much playing it the same as I would, but with better multitasking.
Love it, please make it a series!
WAIT WAIT WAIT IS THIS AI!!! Had me in stitches then the reveal happened and it was my ELO LOLOLOLOL. 10/10 video loved it.
This is a very good content, just a small hint for you , when you see more than 10 archers, it can not be below 1000 elo. Basically no one play archers in low elo. 11
Great content, premium editing, really fun to watch. Your channel split delivers.
The skirm killing that FARM at the end there. Would have jumped an Elo guess another 100-150 at least I think - if that had have happened!
BUT... people can't just have off days/games even? :(
i feel like elo went down in general.1300 elo two years ago is now around 1100
I legit said "This is either MBL or a 1500 or something" and it was MBL.
you know what would be funny, if you had put a clip from one of their own matches against each other 😂
can already tell, this video is crazy edited!!
need more of these !
That fourth clip made me lose my shit.
Great entertaining video, nicely edited...
What is the BGM by the way? Sounds very catchy :)
i want to know too! leaving an answer to hopefully get notified when somebody answers :)
Nice D'n'B Track, would like to know it, too!
I would love to see more with Daut and Tatoh :D could be amazing
Just 2 point too, this is hard! Great vid!
This one was not as hard as the hera channel video, but there were still some big surprises. 1750, 1400, 1100, 1600, 1150 were my guesses :) Laughed my ass of at the MBL/Daut game
Daut and MbL masters of deceive 😂😂😂😂
its interesting to me that all my guesses where very close, except for the daut vs mbl.
Looks like the game is madness and crazy when below 800 elo, then starts to be meta until 2k, and then it becomes madness and crazy again for the pros
Fun concept but maybe add a clip of each age per game. Seems like its a bit too little information for an educated guess. Hope you continue !
Third clip was clearly 900. They ate dears 😂
i was laughing when i saw the skirm's going to mbl's base because it looked low elo
800-1k is the weirdest ELO. You might get an 800 who is pretty decent, but needs to work on builds. Then you'll get a 950 and you question whether they've touched a mouse and keyboard before or if they've even been there for half the match. Teams turns this up max.
Never realized how little they would need for a decent estimate
Final score for me: 9. I think it's a lot easier for a player like me just climbing up from 12+ to 16 these two years.
What song is playing in the transitions? It's catchy
Please make more of these guess game with Nacho_AOE as a guest!
Hell yeah I love this from the SC2 scene
My unknown Homie 😂, where can i find the next guess the elo episode? ;) i would love to sew a new one
should definitely make it competition for points between you two I think a bit of competition would make it more fun
My guesses: Clip1:1750elo:5points, Clip2:1800elo:1point, Clip3:900elo:5points, Clip4:2500elo:1point(I saw this live and vaguely remembered that maybe its dragonstar playing or watching a rec), Clip5:1400elo:1point
this seems a lot like Harstems (starcraft) rank roulette and i'm all for it 👍👍
G1: 1500
G2: 1400
G3: 800
G4: 1500
G5: 1000
Forever only 100 or 200 points away XD Damn but managed to scrape together 1 point
Will keep track of this, great idea!
1. 1680: 2p
2. 1600: 2p
3. 750: 1p
4. 1550: 0p
5. 1250: 5p
Clip 3 was correct guessed. We do not know how many games these 2 played so remember everyone starts with 1000 elo first.. they will get to 600 soon
Nitpicking, but 1400 is not mid elo. Its literally top 13% of all players.
need capture age clip here to understand.
Feeling like the scoring system here is way too draconian. There should be some reward for even landing in the right 500elo segment. Either that, or more clips per guess to see more of what's going on. The latter is obviously more prep/edit work, but I think that would make the challenge better.
my 800 elo match looks like 10k elo matches
This was fun, would like to see more!
Super fun to watch and play along. I got 6 points but I got most wrong (only 2 of my guesses scored points). Nice video idea
This is good stuff, I want to see more!!!!
Love this kind of challenge!
I got four points overall. I guessed the MBL vs Daut game as 1380 though… I feel like I’ve seen micro like that down at my elo. Apparently I’m very wrong…
Should get 100 points for guessing on the dot :D
I'd want more clips and a max 2 minute timer on making a decision.
This is such a good game. Next time do it separately and then mix it into 1clip
The way they each react to lower level players is night and day. Viper best player
This is super hard, im way off, and last clip is my elo, and i had them at 900-1k
Awesome format, but maybe make it more competitive? Like make them guess against each other?
I feel like every clip was a 1200 elo 😂