This has no dedicated GPS which is a no go for me because you have to depend on mobile service for this thing to work. If you lose mobile service you are screwed. Also I like to make custom routes with via points to force the route to go the way you want to go. You still need a gps in my opinion.
It used to be that way but changed around when the first iPhone (smart phone) came out in 2007. Believe me I've tested this app (and others) on my Samsung S9, when I did my Alps trip last summer on my BMW F900XR, almost at every summit I didn't have a network signal but I did have GPS navigation with this app and took pictures and attached the pictures to the route and that is how I made my video series of my Alps trip that I uploaded this last winter for my channel. Also, you can make custom routes and import into phone app via .GPX. and change the route on the fly, just like a Garmin Zumo, I have one of those too. Please read the description and see the links I put in there, this will answer all your questions. Ride safe, Scott
@@ski3435 I guess I don't. Enlighten me on how this works when I have a route planned out on the mobile device tethered to the mc and I lose mobile service when I am riding the planned route?
This bike in Canada starts at $24,650 dollars. At this price point every manufacturer has a top spec bike. I do love the cruise adaptation and the leading electronica. If I lived somewhere I could ride more than store it I think this is a front runner. Thanks for showing us your take away on this beautiful machine. Cheers!
Well, I can say that I got mine in March of this year, and after 5k, I am still in love with it! Still on the honeymoon. Will probably do a 5k review of it in the next week or so 😁👍 take care, Scott
As far as I am concerned you can do that more often. A raw video without the effort of cutting or editing. Just the pure fun and it seems you had tons of it. The combination of this huge display and the BMW app on the cellphone could be just my kind of navigation system. Because I always had the worst of luck with actual Navigation-devices like Garmin or TomTom. Thanks for the video Scott. Ride safe and take care!
If you’re ever bored at home I’d love to get a gear check from you and know what gear you wear in what weather etc. What is your personal bike these days
The reason so many complain about the navigation on this bike is because it is overly complicated and unreliable. I spent a week on this bike, considering it as a replacement for my 2015 RT and decided to keep my current bike, mainly because of the new TFT screen, convoluted menu navigation, and the dependency of the navigation system on my phone. If your phone doesn't support wireless charging or is in a case, it probably won't fit in the compartment designed for it. My 2015 has a Garmin-based Motorrad GPS that works independent of my phone or a cell signal. In my view this bike was designed by engineers who don't ride, or who spend a lot more time on their phone than their bike. Buy a 2014-2020 model used, and save yourself a lot of money and grief.
To discredit a whole bike because of one new tech on it, is a mistake without looking at the entire package. Put your Garmin on this bike too, just like on your old bike and you'll love this bike too. No bike is perfect and BMW is a pioneer in this area, is it perfect yet, NO, a long way from it, but it will get better and better over time. There are only 4 other bikes that have this tech, so being the first to market has it's pitfalls but one must look at all the other improvements on this bike too and they are many. My 6 month owner review of this bike will be up on my channel tonight. And I don't even mention map mode on the TFT because the rest of the bike is so good that I didn't have time. Take care & thank you I value owner opinion the most, Scott
Scott, thanks for your great videos! They were a large part of my decision to buy an R1250RT. I pick it up on Tuesday. I love the blue but they are really hard to find so I’m getting a white one. That can be a benefit here in the US because so many police departments use white bikes. My last accident I was hit from behind on an orange bike😮. He “couldn’t see” me. Everyone sees a cop bike.
@@NothingToProve I bought a 2022 R1250RT, used with just 900 miles on it in February, have put about 5000 miles on it, and I am very happy with the bike...except for the nav system. On hot days the phone compartment gets too hot, even with ventilation, twice my phone shut down due to heat. You can't plug an address into the nav display, you have to pull out your phone. The app essentially takes over your phone in map mode, you can't use it for anything else. There are nice features in the app, like recording your rides, but I would happily give up the bells and whistles for a simple and reliable nav system. Based on comments on line I am not alone, and I hope BMW is getting the message, that improvements will be made to serve exiting owners, and that soon they overhaul this design.
@@BlueRidgeRider Mine is white, too, and it is amazing how many people mistake me for a motorcycle cop. It's great when they get out of your way, problematic when they slow down in the fast lane and pace the person next to them.
I bought this R1250RT 2021 in Amsterdam and sold it after one month. I hated the navigation by iPhone. Several times i had to wait for several minutes for connection and other times the connection got lost during the ride. Its an awfull system. Bought a new goldwing. Navigation is integrated in the bike and works flawless. Also with imported gpx routes. And also Apple Carplay with maze app etc. I love the Honda and never want a bike anymore with iphone connection as a must. Next to that i had qualtity issues with the RT. A strong zooming sound from the dash and strange noise while riding 60 to 80.
@@ski3435 I didn't read his post that way at all. He didn't want to have to use an extraneous tech, ON that $25,000 bike! He wanted a stand alone, integrated GPS/Nav system, and I don't blame him one bit! He expected that that tech would be part of that $25,000 he spent.
I suggest that you try the navigation system with an iPhone - then you will find that if you stop the bike (e.g. for petrol) and start again, not only does the connection take a long time to re-establish but the voice directions will have disappeared. The RT is a great bike but the TFT navigation system in its present form is not fit for purpose.
I have watched all reviews that have being coming out these past few weeks, as I try to patiently wait for my RT to be build and delivered, and I have to say, yours clearly shows that you have studied the bike before recording and you show a ton of stuff I hadn't seen in previous reviews. Outstanding job with this video, love it! I can't wait to throw my Garmin Zumo 390 in the garbage (not really, will sell it)!
Thank you! Yea, I have a Zumo 390 sitting in a drawer somewhere in my house, ever since I got the F900XR last year, hmm...good idea, sell it! Thanks! 👍😁
As a touring bike, the BMW is at the top of my want list. The GoldWing, RoadKing, Vulcan Voyager are great touring bikes, but sooo heavy. This model does it ALL, and is around 200lbs lighter. Probably get more mileage on a set of tires with the lighter weight, and better fuel economy. Nice review!....👍😺
Yes, navigation is very nice, if, if you do nit have an Apple iPhone connected to the BMW Connected App. This connection get problems after 30-100km, You habe to stop bike, grap phone out of the box, start map again. BMW tells you and me that its an Apple problem in bluetooth and they work with Apple to resolbe it somewhere in the future. This is the bad side if connecticity, you have problems from foreign components you can not controll. If they do not solve this in the next 3 weeks in need an Android pnone only for navigation
Or just get a Gold Wing/Africa Twin! LOL! Cause Honda is the other way around, they only do Apple and not Android. But at least I give credit to BMW for trying to do both operating systems at the same time. BMW is the leader in this area of Bluetooth connectivity and when you are the leader, there will be development problems. Now that I've replaced my Samsung S9 with the Samsung S20FE, I've had no disconnection problems with my BMW900XR at all, now it's one disconnection every 2 to 3 days, instead of 2 to 3 times a day, so it seems that it really depends on the smart phone and what level of android the phone is able to handle too. Thank you for giving us your experience & take care, Scott
Would you believe there are many more Plus size phone owners out there? You can’t get get an iPhone 8 Plus in that charger. Also would love to see BMW install backlit handlebar switches for night riding and blind spot mirrors. Shouldn’t be all that difficult for a premium company like BMW. They did finally upgrade the horn on this wonderful bike, which for years was seriously lacking as it is on the wonderful GS/GSA. Do like the Adaptive Cruise and the integrated large display. Nice job NTP! Ride safe and ride often.
Hi Scott, Great review as always Really nice bike, I like all the changes they did from the previous model I won't hesitate to buy it in the near future Ride safe Marcelo
Scott, it took me time really as to which I should take, the R1250 Gs or the R 1250 RT where I tried to see all kinds of reviews made by numerous riders in You Tube. After arriving the finality of my decision as to which I should take, your review is far better among the rests. Meaning, with your review I am now convinced to buy the R 1250 RT instead of the GS this coming December 2021. And if all things are good based on summation of reviews, then I will buy for my son and for my eldest daughter of the same kind, all at the same time, on the spot after its test drives. Thank you so much for your review. From the Philippines. 🇵🇭😍🇵🇭😍🇵🇭
Don't just test ride it, buy it. I did and it is an amazing bike, had it for 2 weeks now and it is by for the best bike I have owned and I've had a lot. 😃👍
Top review ! Well done. Question: I'm riding with my navigation-phone in the right glove box and then I see a nice scenery of which I want to take a picture with the same phone. Can you describe that process? Something like: "Stop the bike, open the box, take the phone, disconnect the app, take the picture, open the app again, reconnect with the TFT, put the phone back in the box." How easy would that be or do I need a second phone?
LOL! just open the camera app and take a picture or within the BMW app and take a picture and attach it to the map, location tag basically. During my Alps trip last summer I had 4 or 5 apps open at the same time with out any problems. I actually had 3 Navigation apps open, this, Sygic and Calimoto. So I could alternate between them, just to see which I like best. Phone is the Samsung S9, work great.
Just FYI, I actually had the app open while filming this video (when standing behind the bike) with the same phone that I was using in the navigation portion of the video, I just never exited out of it when I started filming with it. One can try to over think this if one wants to. Just pull the phone out of the glove box or coat pocket and take a picture, then put it back, the navigation app is still open all the time in the background and just swipe to pull it in front, if you want to see it. edit: I can't speak for as to how IPhones work, I've never used one.
The new TFT looks awesome. I had a 2015 RT and as much as I loved the bike, I got tired of its weight and challenging traffic filtering. I went with the RS and while slightly windier and little more cramped, it's just a touch more fun and light. This video makes me miss the RT though.
Don’t be too put off by my comment. The weight “disappears” when it starts rolling. But it is a bit to push around. My RS is VERY noticeably lighter but still porky itself at 530lbs.
I want one of these bikes but my wife says I don’t need one. It’s not about need it’s about want. If she wants me to keep my sanity in this world I need this bike lol. Your laughter just confirmed it. I now need this bike. What’s it have like 156hp I think?
Nice comprehensive review, thank you! I used to own a 2014 RT now a 2017, wish in 2 years or so I can afford a used 2021. I also have a K1600gt and Kawi H2SX but the RT always has a special place in my heart ❤️
I've watched this video many times and learn something else each time. And by the way, everytime you laugh, it puts a smile on my face. After a very long delay from the BMW factory, i'm finally picking up my Blue 2021RT in 3 DAYS!!!!! Wooooooohoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for showing how adaptive cruise works, really seems like an incredible tool for covering large distances on motorway. This would have been handy when I had to go from Madrid to Calais in 1 day 😂
Thanks Scott! Greetings from Ohio! I love your channel. I think I have watched every English-speaking review of this new RT! Yours is by far the best! I currently own a 2015 BMW 1200 GSA. I have the 2021 BMW r1250RT on order. Your review helped with this decision!
Hello Buckeye! I'm a transplanted Wolverine. :) Thank you for the compliment. Still today, 6 weeks after filming this bike to make this video, I really have nothing but good feelings towards this bike. It just does everything well and easy. I hope BMW will put the 10.25" TFT on other models, like the 1250GS, then I'd trade my 900XR today for it, the display is just that good. take care, Scott
Top notch review Scott. I scrolled through and didn't see this question asked as many are interested in the nav setup (I already use Connected :) and this screen looks awesome. To my question: how is wind management on this bike compared to the previous front end design? I love the RT looks but I live in the SE United States which you may know means hot and humid summers. I've put some miles on the previous gen (2014? to 2020) and they just block too much wind for my preference. I always felt the RT could benefit from the little wings they have on the K bikes. You mentioned the air inlets, is that just for the phone compartment or does that route air to the rider?
Thank you Cranky! No no, the new "patented" air intakes on the front basically manage the air in the cockpit to prevent the air from coming around and pressing on your back, to create a neutral environment in the cockpit so to speak or to neutralize the wind vortices created by the big windshield. But some of that air is sucked in by the electric fan for the phone compartment to keep it cool while the phone is charging for example. And yes, it is water proof, so they must be pulling the air in from higher up so it's not pulling in wet/rain air...this is what I'm assuming...since BMW say it's water proof and protected from the elements. Now that I'm thinking about it, I now want to test this in the wet...sigh...have to wait for a rainy day! 🤣🤣
When the adaptive cruise slows u down does it apply the brake light to tell the vehicle behind u u r slowing down? Great video , I like this approach of u standing by the bike and directing us to your various rides ,autobahn twisted ,etc. beautiful done the way u fade into the nav vs Garmin .
On the fence between this and the GS.The RT looks worlds better than the GS imo.The weight is a non issue for me coming off of a Harley touring which is a tank,and much heavier than this.Great review as always.Thanks Scott!👍👍✌
Both are great road bikes. If you plan to stay on pavement the RT is probably a better choice. If you plan to go beyond the highways realize that much of the world is unpaved and the GS is worlds better there!
I just got a 2018 RT a pretty red girl no now all I gotta do is go somewhere adventures or: thanks for reviewing the spike you inspired me to give it a really good look and it’s working great I like the analog dialsMakes me feel like I’m in an airplane your reviews are great thanks again
Great review, thanks. I picked up my new RT a couple of weeks ago and have been enjoying every minute of riding it. This one is my third RT in succession and I especially love the new, grunty, engine. It really does pull like a freight train as you said. Anyway, even though the map navigation feature works OK and I do get the visual turn to turn instructions on the screen, I can't get the spoken navigation instructions to work, even though I've ticked the pertinent box in nav settings. It should not be a pairing issue because the radio sound comes out just fine thru the helmet Cardo comms and the bike's speakers. Any advice? Also, I have not managed to play my music on either of my phones (one iPhone and the other is Android); I have set their volumes to max, as advised by many. Some people prefer silence when they ride, I love to listen to music. It's funny how many comments on various reviews pooh-pooh the ACC, the TFT ect. I am a former fighter pilot and in my days of flying we used every bit of tech that would help us focus on situational awareness and/or safety. And that's what the new features on this bike, too, are all about. The pilot/rider can choose when or how to use it. If you do not like modern technology, don't buy it. It's that simple.
I'd rather see this amazing TFT screen with map mode and app connectivity as bonus options for the S1000R instead of carbon wheels. Thanks for the video.
Scott you got the GoPro Lens Mod I see. Isn't it awesome for taking curves and really shows the lean angle and corners nice doesn't it? I use mine when I'm flying paragliders and makes for really fun acro shots! Great review. Thanks. MAN I love these dang BMWs!
Great!! I will go down to the BMW dealer this afternoon and sign on the dotted line for this exact one. So in two weeks You'll start seeing videos about it, it's just that this time, it's my personal bike in the video :)
Hey! Another great video. I picked up a F900r thanks for the thoughts you gave me on it. As you are in Germany what's your opinion on Cobra exhaust vs bmw recommending akaprovic. Are they better than aka?
Thank you. Exhausts are really a matter of personal preference, sound, look, price. Kind of like which brand of tires an OEM puts on a bike/car but then it's more about politics and the bottom line and that is probably why Akrapovic is on BMWs from the factory. I personally do not think one is better than the other. 😎
Good review. I like how you commented on the important aspects of the bike mattered most to the riders, not just reading the specs. sheet which everyone can just get them from the brochures. Excellent. Anyway, I’m still torn between K1600 and RT1250.
Hi Scott, Great review. I've just bought one and am struggling to sort out the sat nav. The box for the phone to sit in and charge is too small for most phones so pretty useless. An iPhone 12 mini would fit but only without any protective cases and why should I have to swap my phone just because BMW can't make the phone holder bigger? Keeping the phone in my pocket works but the battery doesn't last long enough to complete some journey's. Then if I want to do anything else with the phone, the app shuts down. I'm wondering how to overcome these basic issues. Can you offer any guidance?
I see cars as utilitarian, bikes are pleasure/hobby/therapist, more of a pastime rather than A to B. If I had £20K I'd spend £14 on a bike, £6 on a car.
Nice review, Scott. I wish for safety it had blind-spot monitoring (Come on, BMW). Also, since I'm not exactly a large guy, I really wish it had Reverse for convenience. Then it'd be perfect or as close to perfection as possible.
Thank you, just a quick question, what other sport touring bikes have those two things? I know touring bikes do have stuff like that but sport/touring? I don't think the FJR1300 has it or the Concours or the SX, now it's bothering me does any OEM put that on sport touring bikes...hmm...I'm thinking and I don't recall right off the top of my head.
@@NothingToProve I believe a high end KTM and/or Italian bike has it. I don't recall the actual models. There are some third party companies such as Senzor and Kiwav that offer them too. It is not a replacement for a good old head check, but just an extra layer of security. I don't see why BMW can develop its own system too.
@@jeremiahnilsson7373 Not a replacement for a head-check, just an aid (as it is on a car), to tell you you have something on your blind spot to you, without moving your head, and before you actually turn.
As always, a great review, informative & obviously you enjoyed the bike. It is indeed a beautiful bike but....1) it's a BMW and 2) I'll bet you can't touch one for under $25g's. For that kind of scratch, you can buy a newer, low mileage, used FJR1300 (which will accomplish the same thing as the RT) AND a Z900RS or some similar combination for the same coin. Me? I'd go Japanese anyday over this ride.
Modern safety tech on this motorcycle is certainly attractive. Is long-term mechanical reliability effective enough? I suppose it has to be put through the cross-country riding test before that question can be answered. Overall, the appeal of this bike, with all its comforts and features, for those who are in the sports touring market should be highly considered. The only drawback for being a top pick would be the weight and price to upkeep. Motorcycle technology has come a long ways and is steadily improving. BMW sets the standard and pushes everyone else into modernization almost always with cars and motorcycles. Nonetheless, I think one of the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers will be the first to build a two-wheel motorcycle that won't tilt over. Good presentation.
Hello dear friend, I’ve seen a lot of videos made by you and I love the work and the analysis you do of the bikes you test. In this case, you tested the sporty version which means that in the standard version the wind protection is even superior to the one here reviewed. It is something precious about this bike. The clutch feels also better compared to other models that use the same engine , feels smoother and I don’t really know it is, but it happens! I think this bike is that kind of vehicle that allows you to go everywhere and almost by every path on road. I saw your video about the BMW 1250RS and at that time didn’t understood your critique about it. But after a while I bought the Yamaha XSR Abarth version and I saw where you came from! Although, this motorcycle is a must have for traveling on two wheels and you confirmed it with this video. Thanks for your good work, you give an important contribution to make people that love motorcycles , to be better informed and to do the right decisions.
Thank you Brito, I appreciate the time you took to let me know how feel about the reviews. I cannot put a price tag on feed back from real riders like you. Thank you once again. take care, Scott
Like a streaming service like Netflix? The hard part would be to get another person in another language, say Spanish/German/French...etc. they would have to be recorded and first understand motorcycles, second be able to translate everything I say and third I'd have to pay them a lot of money :( Let's see 50 euros per video, translate into say 5 different languages, that would cost me 250 euros. When I make about 75 euros on a video right now. Hmm....now I know why only the big networks are doing it and not us guys on youtube :(
@@NothingToProve yea exactly but no I mean so you could record a second audio track instead of having to make an entirely new video in German/English. Just have one be a voiceover where viewers could select either language on a single upload like on Netflix
The key test of the adaptive cruise is to see if it will maintain the set speed when rounding a sweeping left hand bend in the interstate when the bike is in the left lane and you are overtaking a vehicle in the right lane. Will the cruise control think you're going to impact the vehicle being overtaken and slow you down, or will it keep your set speed?
Thanks for a good review. I have a R1250GS, I can see from the video that the quick shifter is smoother on your RT above. The RT is a compelling offering! My only beef with it is that it doesn’t look very good with the panniers removed. I like to be able to filter (Lane split) and I think the R1250 GS with (removable) vario panniers is easier to slip through traffic queues.
Agreed! That's why I said I'd buy the GS if they put this TFT on the 1250GS. I just don't like side cases on all the time and when they are off, this bike kind of looks naked. Now if it was female, then that might not be such a bad idea... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If the front can fit between other vehicles, so will the panniers, because they are narrower than the fairing and mirrors. So forget the panniers. If you can filter the front end, the back end will get through also.
Yea, just put the screen all the way down, I was getting direct air on my helmet, right about at my neck line. But all the way up and I got nothing. So, it really worked well.
I always enjoy your reviews, and absolutely love this bike. As I can't afford it I will have to settle for the Honda NT100. My previous Versys 100 was a very good machine but didn't have the level of wind protection I wanted, even with a larger screen fitted, or quite the seat comfort.
Thanks for the great review! I really like this bike, but can you recommend it as the first bike for a beginner who dreams of a touring bike with great wind protection?
I would never recommend a big bike as a first bike to learn the basic riding skills. Smaller bikes are easier to learn on and highlight the lack of skills, where as bigger bikes tend to hid the lack of skills and one will (usually) never learn basic emergency maneuvering on a big bike and one day when they need that skill that was never developed, they become a static. Start out on a middleweight bike, this is a heavyweight at 279 kg, 615 lbs. There are some middleweight bikes with good wind protection, BMW F900XR, 750GS...etc, Yamaha Tracer 900, Kawasaki Versys 650 & Ninja SX, V-Strom 650, Honda CB650F, Ninja650, the list goes on and on, just depends on your budget and brand you want. Ride safe, Scott
Super Test.... 👍👍 Werde sie demnächst mal Probe fahren.. Die neue GS 1300 die ende 2022 vorgestellt werden soll hat das neue Display natürlich auch. Wie dann alle BMW irgendwann... Es gibt keinen Navigator 7 mehr laut meinem BMW Händler. Deine Motorrad Test sind echt der Hammer. 😇
At 15' 05'' you ask BMW to add the TFT to the 1250GS. They won't, as you go on to say, because I guess they'll save it for the 1300GS that is due next year.
Navigation is not good enough. No camera alerts, no fuel stops or other POIs. These are essential for me. I have installed a Chigee Android Auto screen so I can use TomTom from my phone.
I have the K1300R 2009y. and i'm very happy with it.. But I wouldn't mind to have something like this in my garage.! BMW produces the best bikes, danke Deutschland.!
Another awesome video.....Im ready to turn my '18 K1600B for this bike. If you can answer one thing for me as Im still a bit confused....do you down load the app and thats it???? You can input routes from the tft??? or does it have to be inputted from the phone? Im with you.....if this comes on the GS or GSA, I'm in!!!!!!! Thanks for your input!!!
Yes, no, yes. There are the 3 answers to your 3 questions. 😁👍 Every thing is done on the smart phone and the display is just a mirror image or read out of your phone. That's it. The "engine" behind the BMW app is TomTom so it's pretty good 👍 So if you drive a BMW car or motorcycle, it's the same navigation logic on both (they look exactly the same whether your in the car or bike). BMW partnered with TomTom to do this with their cars several years ago and it's just now trickling down to the motorcycles. All OEMs are doing this, VW, Ford, GM...etc. so this is the future and hand held gps systems (Garmin/TomTom...etc.) for cars and motorcycles will slowly fade away. ride safe, Scott P.S. Oh, just a side note, BMW has some connection issues with iOS (Apple phones), I have an Android (Samsung S20FE) (so I didn't have any problems with loosing connection between the phone and bike for the week that I had this bike) so if you have an iPhone you might lose connection several times throughout the day (at least that is what some owners of iPhones report). Honda (Africa Twin/Goldwing for example) does a better job with iPhone but not as good with Android. So if you have iPhone, then you may want to wait for BMW to work out some issues 🙁🙄🤨
Great review. Great sampling hi lo speed and what can I say? I am bias. I own 2 RT’s. In my view (1m 92cm/6’2”) what a commanding view I have; the RT’s are the best sport touring motorcycles ever made
Hi again thanks for you reply to my query about your Rukka jacket Can’t seem to find it on their site...... Hope you could tell me which one it is..... Your ride reviews are some of the best..... They have a nice flow to follow and then your gone...... I am sharing you with my rider buddies.. Enjoying the ride....
Yea, it's an older model, got it over 6 years ago, they are always changing stuff. The name is Rukka Gore-Tex Pro Jacket. It comes with a full zip in thermo liner. Basically it's their cold weather riding jacket, the coldest one that they made at that time & had matching pants too but I really don't wear those unless it's really, really cold, then I'll have the pants on too. Rukka does not make a "bad" jacket, they specialize in cold weather riding, well they are from Finland, so they are used to riding in the cold! But they also cost more than the other brands but the jackets last a long long time. Mines 6 years old and I still love it and have had no problems with it, no zipper problems, no tears/rips...etc. I'm glad you are enjoying my channel and thank you for sharing with your friends, I appreciate it! Ride safe, Scott
Brilliant review as usual Scott. Very very tempting to own this bike. Should be herec in Australia near the end of April I believe. Already earmarked for a test ride at the local dealership. Thanks again mate.
Be careful when you take it for a test ride, don't bring any means or forms of payment with you cause you'll want to put some money down right then and there...at least I did! Good luck and I hope you get to see it in person soon! Ride safe, Scott
@@NothingToProve I will certainly heed that advice mate, otherwise my wife would probably rip me a new one!! Thanks again mate for all of your great reviews.
I own the same RT (2021), got it 2 weeks ago, and I loose map on the TFT quite frequently. Any clue? I have an iPhone XS (2018). A specific setting to adjust somewhere on the phone? Because as it is, with all those connexions issues, the nav is pretty unusable :(( Great review by the way, I am very very fond od your coolness ☺️ Cheers from France ✌️
I got that too at first last year on my F900XR at first, then I went in and gave the BMW app all the permissions it wanted and did a few settings on the phone that BMW recommended for the app to run freely. Then that fixed almost all connection issues. On my 9 day Alps trip, it happened the first few days, once or twice a day then one night I was ticked off at it, and did all the "settings" for Android cause I have Samsung Galaxy series and then the connection issues stopped. Then it would happen like once every other day vs. 2 to 3 times a day. I actually wish it had happened while filming, then I would have had something to complain about and put it in the thumb nail and get more clicks! But of course it didn't happen while filming 🙁 Ride safe, Scott
Yes, navigation is very nice, if, if you do nit have an Apple iPhone connected to the BMW Connected App. This connection get problems after 30-100km, You habe to stop bike, grap phone out of the box, start map again. BMW tells you and me that its an Apple problem in bluetooth and they work with Apple to resolbe it somewhere in the future. This is the bad side if connecticity, you have problems from foreign components you can not controll. If they do not solve this in the next 3 weeks in need an Android pnone only for navigation
This has no dedicated GPS which is a no go for me because you have to depend on mobile service for this thing to work. If you lose mobile service you are screwed. Also I like to make custom routes with via points to force the route to go the way you want to go. You still need a gps in my opinion.
It used to be that way but changed around when the first iPhone (smart phone) came out in 2007. Believe me I've tested this app (and others) on my Samsung S9, when I did my Alps trip last summer on my BMW F900XR, almost at every summit I didn't have a network signal but I did have GPS navigation with this app and took pictures and attached the pictures to the route and that is how I made my video series of my Alps trip that I uploaded this last winter for my channel.
Also, you can make custom routes and import into phone app via .GPX. and change the route on the fly, just like a Garmin Zumo, I have one of those too.
Please read the description and see the links I put in there, this will answer all your questions.
Ride safe,
Scott
It's clear you don't understand how the technology works on this bike.
@@ski3435 I guess I don't. Enlighten me on how this works when I have a route planned out on the mobile device tethered to the mc and I lose mobile service when I am riding the planned route?
@@TimothyT230 So how do you track yourself in real time if you are off-line.
@@TimothyT230 Interesting. Thanks
Your laugh shows how you enjoyed the bike, greetings from Australia
Yep I was shocked how Harty is laugh was for this bike
This bike in Canada starts at $24,650 dollars. At this price point every manufacturer has a top spec bike. I do love the cruise adaptation and the leading electronica. If I lived somewhere I could ride more than store it I think this is a front runner. Thanks for showing us your take away on this beautiful machine. Cheers!
What part of Canada, Shawn?
"Thanks" Scott .... I felt like i was on the bike myself ..... the sound effects said it ALL, brother !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly. Me too. This cat is smooth. He could sell freezers to Eskimos baby.
Your reviews on this bike has led me to put a deposit on a new 2023 RT. It will arrive in 4 to 5 weeks. Thanks Scott.
Well, I can say that I got mine in March of this year, and after 5k, I am still in love with it! Still on the honeymoon. Will probably do a 5k review of it in the next week or so 😁👍
take care,
Scott
The boxer models are so easy to handle because of their low center of gravity, they remain my choice for the BMWs.
As far as I am concerned you can do that more often.
A raw video without the effort of cutting or editing.
Just the pure fun and it seems you had tons of it.
The combination of this huge display and the BMW app on the cellphone could be just my kind of navigation system.
Because I always had the worst of luck with actual Navigation-devices like Garmin or TomTom.
Thanks for the video Scott.
Ride safe and take care!
By far the best demonstration I've seen on this bike. I'm sold. Now - If I could only find one. From U.S. 👍😁
Saw two yesterday at A&S powerspors in Roseville CA.
@@davewanamaker6911 Darn - I'm in Kansas City. Thanks anyway. 🥴
The blue color is stunning. 1250 cc and two cylinders and it flies like you wouldn't believe.
Thank you, fantastic quality of filming, like the 360 panning
Great demo of the adaptive cruise control. Fabulous bike.
If you’re ever bored at home I’d love to get a gear check from you and know what gear you wear in what weather etc. What is your personal bike these days
2021 handlebar buttons are still not backlit. Two thumbs up bmw. Had to turn my phone flashlight on to find the hazard switch at night.
The reason so many complain about the navigation on this bike is because it is overly complicated and unreliable. I spent a week on this bike, considering it as a replacement for my 2015 RT and decided to keep my current bike, mainly because of the new TFT screen, convoluted menu navigation, and the dependency of the navigation system on my phone. If your phone doesn't support wireless charging or is in a case, it probably won't fit in the compartment designed for it. My 2015 has a Garmin-based Motorrad GPS that works independent of my phone or a cell signal. In my view this bike was designed by engineers who don't ride, or who spend a lot more time on their phone than their bike. Buy a 2014-2020 model used, and save yourself a lot of money and grief.
To discredit a whole bike because of one new tech on it, is a mistake without looking at the entire package. Put your Garmin on this bike too, just like on your old bike and you'll love this bike too. No bike is perfect and BMW is a pioneer in this area, is it perfect yet, NO, a long way from it, but it will get better and better over time. There are only 4 other bikes that have this tech, so being the first to market has it's pitfalls but one must look at all the other improvements on this bike too and they are many. My 6 month owner review of this bike will be up on my channel tonight. And I don't even mention map mode on the TFT because the rest of the bike is so good that I didn't have time.
Take care & thank you I value owner opinion the most,
Scott
Scott, thanks for your great videos! They were a large part of my decision to buy an R1250RT. I pick it up on Tuesday. I love the blue but they are really hard to find so I’m getting a white one. That can be a benefit here in the US because so many police departments use white bikes. My last accident I was hit from behind on an orange bike😮. He “couldn’t see” me. Everyone sees a cop bike.
@@NothingToProve I bought a 2022 R1250RT, used with just 900 miles on it in February, have put about 5000 miles on it, and I am very happy with the bike...except for the nav system. On hot days the phone compartment gets too hot, even with ventilation, twice my phone shut down due to heat. You can't plug an address into the nav display, you have to pull out your phone. The app essentially takes over your phone in map mode, you can't use it for anything else. There are nice features in the app, like recording your rides, but I would happily give up the bells and whistles for a simple and reliable nav system. Based on comments on line I am not alone, and I hope BMW is getting the message, that improvements will be made to serve exiting owners, and that soon they overhaul this design.
@@BlueRidgeRider Mine is white, too, and it is amazing how many people mistake me for a motorcycle cop. It's great when they get out of your way, problematic when they slow down in the fast lane and pace the person next to them.
I bought this R1250RT 2021 in Amsterdam and sold it after one month. I hated the navigation by iPhone. Several times i had to wait for several minutes for connection and other times the connection got lost during the ride. Its an awfull system. Bought a new goldwing. Navigation is integrated in the bike and works flawless. Also with imported gpx routes. And also Apple Carplay with maze app etc. I love the Honda and never want a bike anymore with iphone connection as a must. Next to that i had qualtity issues with the RT. A strong zooming sound from the dash and strange noise while riding 60 to 80.
Thank you for sharing your personal experience. It is always good to hear from actual owners!
Ride safe,
Scott
Sold a great $25,000 bike to fix a problem with your $800 iPhone??
@@ski3435 I didn't read his post that way at all. He didn't want to have to use an extraneous tech, ON that $25,000 bike! He wanted a stand alone, integrated GPS/Nav system, and I don't blame him one bit! He expected that that tech would be part of that $25,000 he spent.
I suggest that you try the navigation system with an iPhone - then you will find that if you stop the bike (e.g. for petrol) and start again, not only does the connection take a long time to re-establish but the voice directions will have disappeared. The RT is a great bike but the TFT navigation system in its present form is not fit for purpose.
I see that others have complained about this below. Sorry to add to the list....
Or the problem is with your iPhone. Android phones appear to work fine. Apple used to be the tech leader....but that was years ago.
GPS with the options Fast, Short, and Winding has me wishing to jump three generations from my 2006 to this 2021. Nice review.
Agree, the quick shifter was nicer than the GS. Hoping for some more detail on handling…
Its amazing how this part of Germany looks so much like PA.
I have watched all reviews that have being coming out these past few weeks, as I try to patiently wait for my RT to be build and delivered, and I have to say, yours clearly shows that you have studied the bike before recording and you show a ton of stuff I hadn't seen in previous reviews. Outstanding job with this video, love it!
I can't wait to throw my Garmin Zumo 390 in the garbage (not really, will sell it)!
Thank you! Yea, I have a Zumo 390 sitting in a drawer somewhere in my house, ever since I got the F900XR last year, hmm...good idea, sell it! Thanks! 👍😁
As a touring bike, the BMW is at the top of my want list. The GoldWing, RoadKing, Vulcan Voyager are great touring bikes, but sooo heavy. This model does it ALL, and is around 200lbs lighter. Probably get more mileage on a set of tires with the lighter weight, and better fuel economy. Nice review!....👍😺
Yes, navigation is very nice, if, if you do nit have an Apple iPhone connected to the BMW Connected App. This connection get problems after 30-100km, You habe to stop bike, grap phone out of the box, start map again. BMW tells you and me that its an Apple problem in bluetooth and they work with Apple to resolbe it somewhere in the future. This is the bad side if connecticity, you have problems from foreign components you can not controll. If they do not solve this in the next 3 weeks in need an Android pnone only for navigation
Or just get a Gold Wing/Africa Twin! LOL! Cause Honda is the other way around, they only do Apple and not Android. But at least I give credit to BMW for trying to do both operating systems at the same time. BMW is the leader in this area of Bluetooth connectivity and when you are the leader, there will be development problems. Now that I've replaced my Samsung S9 with the Samsung S20FE, I've had no disconnection problems with my BMW900XR at all, now it's one disconnection every 2 to 3 days, instead of 2 to 3 times a day, so it seems that it really depends on the smart phone and what level of android the phone is able to handle too.
Thank you for giving us your experience & take care,
Scott
I certainly love the color you chose! I have no clue how you managed to get to do your review on this one, but it is a beauty!!
It was luck, if I were to buy one, this is the color I'd get! Love it!
Would you believe there are many more Plus size phone owners out there? You can’t get get an iPhone 8 Plus in that charger. Also would love to see BMW install backlit handlebar switches for night riding and blind spot mirrors. Shouldn’t be all that difficult for a premium company like BMW. They did finally upgrade the horn on this wonderful bike, which for years was seriously lacking as it is on the wonderful GS/GSA. Do like the Adaptive Cruise and the integrated large display. Nice job NTP! Ride safe and ride often.
I saw the triple black RT, that thing is a beautiful piece of Bavarian machinery!
Hi Scott,
Great review as always
Really nice bike, I like all the changes they did from the previous model
I won't hesitate to buy it in the near future
Ride safe
Marcelo
Scott, it took me time really as to which I should take, the R1250 Gs or the R 1250 RT where I tried to see all kinds of reviews made by numerous riders in You Tube.
After arriving the finality of my decision as to which I should take, your review is far better among the rests.
Meaning, with your review I am now convinced to buy the R 1250 RT instead of the GS this coming December 2021.
And if all things are good based on summation of reviews, then I will buy for my son and for my eldest daughter of the same kind, all at the same time, on the spot after its test drives.
Thank you so much for your review.
From the Philippines. 🇵🇭😍🇵🇭😍🇵🇭
Thanks for another great review Scott! As soon as this bike hits dealers here in the States I’m going for a test ride!
Don't just test ride it, buy it. I did and it is an amazing bike, had it for 2 weeks now and it is by for the best bike I have owned and I've had a lot. 😃👍
Top review ! Well done. Question: I'm riding with my navigation-phone in the right glove box and then I see a nice scenery of which I want to take a picture with the same phone. Can you describe that process? Something like: "Stop the bike, open the box, take the phone, disconnect the app, take the picture, open the app again, reconnect with the TFT, put the phone back in the box." How easy would that be or do I need a second phone?
LOL! just open the camera app and take a picture or within the BMW app and take a picture and attach it to the map, location tag basically. During my Alps trip last summer I had 4 or 5 apps open at the same time with out any problems. I actually had 3 Navigation apps open, this, Sygic and Calimoto. So I could alternate between them, just to see which I like best. Phone is the Samsung S9, work great.
Just FYI, I actually had the app open while filming this video (when standing behind the bike) with the same phone that I was using in the navigation portion of the video, I just never exited out of it when I started filming with it.
One can try to over think this if one wants to. Just pull the phone out of the glove box or coat pocket and take a picture, then put it back, the navigation app is still open all the time in the background and just swipe to pull it in front, if you want to see it.
edit: I can't speak for as to how IPhones work, I've never used one.
Thanks!
The new TFT looks awesome. I had a 2015 RT and as much as I loved the bike, I got tired of its weight and challenging traffic filtering. I went with the RS and while slightly windier and little more cramped, it's just a touch more fun and light. This video makes me miss the RT though.
I have a deposit on an incoming 22 RT and I am concerned about the weight too. I am only 145 lbs myself and have always ridden middleweight bikes.
Don’t be too put off by my comment. The weight “disappears” when it starts rolling. But it is a bit to push around. My RS is VERY noticeably lighter but still porky itself at 530lbs.
I want one of these bikes but my wife says I don’t need one. It’s not about need it’s about want. If she wants me to keep my sanity in this world I need this bike lol. Your laughter just confirmed it. I now need this bike. What’s it have like 156hp I think?
136hp but who's counting when it's WANT! LOL!
Cf moto has a bike very similar to this one coming out. Would live to see a comparison between the 2
Nice comprehensive review, thank you! I used to own a 2014 RT now a 2017, wish in 2 years or so I can afford a used 2021. I also have a K1600gt and Kawi H2SX but the RT always has a special place in my heart ❤️
I've watched this video many times and learn something else each time. And by the way, everytime you laugh, it puts a smile on my face. After a very long delay from the BMW factory, i'm finally picking up my Blue 2021RT in 3 DAYS!!!!! Wooooooohoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you! You will enjoy it! The few days that I had this in my garage was a absolute enjoyment.
Thanks for showing how adaptive cruise works, really seems like an incredible tool for covering large distances on motorway. This would have been handy when I had to go from Madrid to Calais in 1 day 😂
Enjoyed the review. Hate the lack of gauges but love how you presented the bike. Thanks!
First of all: nice hair cut 😜
Second: great review 👍🏻💪🏻
Thanks Scott! Greetings from Ohio! I love your channel. I think I have watched every English-speaking review of this new RT! Yours is by far the best! I currently own a 2015 BMW 1200 GSA. I have the 2021 BMW r1250RT on order. Your review helped with this decision!
Hello Buckeye! I'm a transplanted Wolverine. :)
Thank you for the compliment. Still today, 6 weeks after filming this bike to make this video, I really have nothing but good feelings towards this bike. It just does everything well and easy. I hope BMW will put the 10.25" TFT on other models, like the 1250GS, then I'd trade my 900XR today for it, the display is just that good.
take care,
Scott
How long was the delivery time from order to delivery?
@@johanjonsson - Ordered the bike in Ohio on April 13, 2021 and it arrived at the dealership on July 20, 2021.
@@dennismiller139 Not bad at all considering estimated delivery times I get on some cars.
Splendid review! So interesting to see how this all works. Clear images!
Interested in this bike now. I am a Harley owner. Love the agility, the color and that screen.
great video, thanks. what kind of riding jeans do you use?
Those are Trilobite Agnox.
Ride safe,
Scott
Top notch review Scott. I scrolled through and didn't see this question asked as many are interested in the nav setup (I already use Connected :) and this screen looks awesome.
To my question: how is wind management on this bike compared to the previous front end design? I love the RT looks but I live in the SE United States which you may know means hot and humid summers. I've put some miles on the previous gen (2014? to 2020) and they just block too much wind for my preference. I always felt the RT could benefit from the little wings they have on the K bikes. You mentioned the air inlets, is that just for the phone compartment or does that route air to the rider?
Thank you Cranky! No no, the new "patented" air intakes on the front basically manage the air in the cockpit to prevent the air from coming around and pressing on your back, to create a neutral environment in the cockpit so to speak or to neutralize the wind vortices created by the big windshield. But some of that air is sucked in by the electric fan for the phone compartment to keep it cool while the phone is charging for example. And yes, it is water proof, so they must be pulling the air in from higher up so it's not pulling in wet/rain air...this is what I'm assuming...since BMW say it's water proof and protected from the elements. Now that I'm thinking about it, I now want to test this in the wet...sigh...have to wait for a rainy day! 🤣🤣
When the adaptive cruise slows u down does it apply the brake light to tell the vehicle behind u u r slowing down? Great video , I like this approach of u standing by the bike and directing us to your various rides ,autobahn twisted ,etc. beautiful done the way u fade into the nav vs Garmin .
I would think so. I know it does in automobiles.
On the fence between this and the GS.The RT looks worlds better than the GS imo.The weight is a non issue for me coming off of a Harley touring which is a tank,and much heavier than this.Great review as always.Thanks Scott!👍👍✌
Both are great road bikes. If you plan to stay on pavement the RT is probably a better choice. If you plan to go beyond the highways realize that much of the world is unpaved and the GS is worlds better there!
Beaytiful! I have a 1200GS, F30 320i and E89 Z4. Pure enjoyment! 👍
I just got a 2018 RT a pretty red girl no now all I gotta do is go somewhere adventures or: thanks for reviewing the spike you inspired me to give it a really good look and it’s working great I like the analog dialsMakes me feel like I’m in an airplane your reviews are great thanks again
So you have to have cell service to use Nav? That’s a No-Go in the USA where we have vast deserts and lots of Mountain ranges.
Nope, please read description under video for you answer.
Great review, thanks. I picked up my new RT a couple of weeks ago and have been enjoying every minute of riding it. This one is my third RT in succession and I especially love the new, grunty, engine. It really does pull like a freight train as you said.
Anyway, even though the map navigation feature works OK and I do get the visual turn to turn instructions on the screen, I can't get the spoken navigation instructions to work, even though I've ticked the pertinent box in nav settings. It should not be a pairing issue because the radio sound comes out just fine thru the helmet Cardo comms and the bike's speakers. Any advice?
Also, I have not managed to play my music on either of my phones (one iPhone and the other is Android); I have set their volumes to max, as advised by many. Some people prefer silence when they ride, I love to listen to music.
It's funny how many comments on various reviews pooh-pooh the ACC, the TFT ect. I am a former fighter pilot and in my days of flying we used every bit of tech that would help us focus on situational awareness and/or safety. And that's what the new features on this bike, too, are all about. The pilot/rider can choose when or how to use it. If you do not like modern technology, don't buy it. It's that simple.
I'd rather see this amazing TFT screen with map mode and app connectivity as bonus options for the S1000R instead of carbon wheels. Thanks for the video.
Scott you got the GoPro Lens Mod I see. Isn't it awesome for taking curves and really shows the lean angle and corners nice doesn't it? I use mine when I'm flying paragliders and makes for really fun acro shots! Great review. Thanks. MAN I love these dang BMWs!
I got about a thousand miles on my 2022 R/T...king of the highway!
Great!! I will go down to the BMW dealer this afternoon and sign on the dotted line for this exact one. So in two weeks You'll start seeing videos about it, it's just that this time, it's my personal bike in the video :)
@@NothingToProve Yea cool!..It's a nice bike...
Hey! Another great video.
I picked up a F900r thanks for the thoughts you gave me on it.
As you are in Germany what's your opinion on Cobra exhaust vs bmw recommending akaprovic. Are they better than aka?
Thank you. Exhausts are really a matter of personal preference, sound, look, price. Kind of like which brand of tires an OEM puts on a bike/car but then it's more about politics and the bottom line and that is probably why Akrapovic is on BMWs from the factory. I personally do not think one is better than the other. 😎
Good review.
I like how you commented on the important aspects of the bike mattered most to the riders, not just reading the specs. sheet which everyone can just get them from the brochures. Excellent.
Anyway, I’m still torn between K1600 and RT1250.
Hi Scott, Great review. I've just bought one and am struggling to sort out the sat nav. The box for the phone to sit in and charge is too small for most phones so pretty useless. An iPhone 12 mini would fit but only without any protective cases and why should I have to swap my phone just because BMW can't make the phone holder bigger? Keeping the phone in my pocket works but the battery doesn't last long enough to complete some journey's. Then if I want to do anything else with the phone, the app shuts down. I'm wondering how to overcome these basic issues. Can you offer any guidance?
5l tankbag +usb cabel or powerbank would solve the problem :)
@@redbull4fly797 I have the same issue with my I phone 13 mini not charging on my bike. However next time out I’ll just use a USB cord, no big deal!
I love motorcycles but if they become more expensive than a good new car it's too much for me
I see cars as utilitarian, bikes are pleasure/hobby/therapist, more of a pastime rather than A to B. If I had £20K I'd spend £14 on a bike, £6 on a car.
Would’ve like to have seen more about the phone in the cubby - like what size phones will fit, etc. Still a good video, thanks.
As always.. great videos, the funny part is 8:05. changing lines with only one hand (150km) feels effortless. 😁
Heh, the real funny thing is that I could do that at 220 kph too, I was impressed as to how solid the bike is at those speeds.
Nice review, Scott. I wish for safety it had blind-spot monitoring (Come on, BMW). Also, since I'm not exactly a large guy, I really wish it had Reverse for convenience. Then it'd be perfect or as close to perfection as possible.
Thank you, just a quick question, what other sport touring bikes have those two things? I know touring bikes do have stuff like that but sport/touring? I don't think the FJR1300 has it or the Concours or the SX, now it's bothering me does any OEM put that on sport touring bikes...hmm...I'm thinking and I don't recall right off the top of my head.
@@NothingToProve I believe a high end KTM and/or Italian bike has it. I don't recall the actual models. There are some third party companies such as Senzor and Kiwav that offer them too. It is not a replacement for a good old head check, but just an extra layer of security. I don't see why BMW can develop its own system too.
Oh, and for people that do some riding at night, lighted controls would be great too...(is that too much to ask?!)
@@jeremiahnilsson7373 Not a replacement for a head-check, just an aid (as it is on a car), to tell you you have something on your blind spot to you, without moving your head, and before you actually turn.
top-notch Review. Thank you. 🙏🙏.
As always, a great review, informative & obviously you enjoyed the bike. It is indeed a beautiful bike but....1) it's a BMW and 2) I'll bet you can't touch one for under $25g's. For that kind of scratch, you can buy a newer, low mileage, used FJR1300 (which will accomplish the same thing as the RT) AND a Z900RS or some similar combination for the same coin. Me? I'd go Japanese anyday over this ride.
Modern safety tech on this motorcycle is certainly attractive. Is long-term mechanical reliability effective enough? I suppose it has to be put through the cross-country riding test before that question can be answered. Overall, the appeal of this bike, with all its comforts and features, for those who are in the sports touring market should be highly considered.
The only drawback for being a top pick would be the weight and price to upkeep. Motorcycle technology has come a long ways and is steadily improving. BMW sets the standard and pushes everyone else into modernization almost always with cars and motorcycles. Nonetheless, I think one of the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers will be the first to build a two-wheel motorcycle that won't tilt over. Good presentation.
Hello dear friend,
I’ve seen a lot of videos made by you and I love the work and the analysis you do of the bikes you test.
In this case, you tested the sporty version which means that in the standard version the wind protection is even superior to the one here reviewed. It is something precious about this bike. The clutch feels also better compared to other models that use the same engine , feels smoother and I don’t really know it is, but it happens!
I think this bike is that kind of vehicle that allows you to go everywhere and almost by every path on road. I saw your video about the BMW 1250RS and at that time didn’t understood your critique about it. But after a while I bought the Yamaha XSR Abarth version and I saw where you came from!
Although, this motorcycle is a must have for traveling on two wheels and you confirmed it with this video.
Thanks for your good work, you give an important contribution to make people that love motorcycles , to be better informed and to do the right decisions.
Thank you Brito,
I appreciate the time you took to let me know how feel about the reviews. I cannot put a price tag on feed back from real riders like you. Thank you once again.
take care,
Scott
I had the adaptive cruise control in a 2008 Infinity Fx45 (that is a car FYI). So, no surprise here.
What a bike what a bike what a bike, so much more compact than the k1600gt
Shame RUclips doesn’t let you upload two different audio tracks so you can let two audiences listen in either language
Like a streaming service like Netflix? The hard part would be to get another person in another language, say Spanish/German/French...etc. they would have to be recorded and first understand motorcycles, second be able to translate everything I say and third I'd have to pay them a lot of money :( Let's see 50 euros per video, translate into say 5 different languages, that would cost me 250 euros. When I make about 75 euros on a video right now. Hmm....now I know why only the big networks are doing it and not us guys on youtube :(
@@NothingToProve yea exactly but no I mean so you could record a second audio track instead of having to make an entirely new video in German/English. Just have one be a voiceover where viewers could select either language on a single upload like on Netflix
Great review! I got one question, can the Satnav handle GPX files like the Garmin devices? Or is it basically a A to B nav system?
Yes, you can import any GPX files you want.
The key test of the adaptive cruise is to see if it will maintain the set speed when rounding a sweeping left hand bend in the interstate when the bike is in the left lane and you are overtaking a vehicle in the right lane. Will the cruise control think you're going to impact the vehicle being overtaken and slow you down, or will it keep your set speed?
You did a great Job. Really an amazing bike for great trips!
And now you have one 😉👍
Thanks for a good review. I have a R1250GS, I can see from the video that the quick shifter is smoother on your RT above.
The RT is a compelling offering! My only beef with it is that it doesn’t look very good with the panniers removed.
I like to be able to filter (Lane split) and I think the R1250 GS with (removable) vario panniers is easier to slip through traffic queues.
Agreed! That's why I said I'd buy the GS if they put this TFT on the 1250GS. I just don't like side cases on all the time and when they are off, this bike kind of looks naked. Now if it was female, then that might not be such a bad idea... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@NothingToProve looking forward to your next video.
If the front can fit between other vehicles, so will the panniers, because they are narrower than the fairing and mirrors. So forget the panniers. If you can filter the front end, the back end will get through also.
Fancy trying the new 'mini Goldwing' Forza750, I've no use for full tourers anymore, top review that!
Fantastic machine. Would love one but way out of my price range. 👍
Yea, mine too!!!
Hello Scott, if you had your choice witch would you choose? The 1250RT or the GS1250? And witch one is more comfortable all day saddle time? Cheers.
Good review Scott. The weather protection is a worry for those who live in hot climates! Will we be able to get cooling airflow ?
Yea, just put the screen all the way down, I was getting direct air on my helmet, right about at my neck line. But all the way up and I got nothing. So, it really worked well.
I always enjoy your reviews, and absolutely love this bike. As I can't afford it I will have to settle for the Honda NT100. My previous Versys 100 was a very good machine but didn't have the level of wind protection I wanted, even with a larger screen fitted, or quite the seat comfort.
Great review as always! Thanks Scott
Great review of an awesome bike 👌👍
Thanks for the great review!
I really like this bike, but can you recommend it as the first bike for a beginner who dreams of a touring bike with great wind protection?
I would never recommend a big bike as a first bike to learn the basic riding skills. Smaller bikes are easier to learn on and highlight the lack of skills, where as bigger bikes tend to hid the lack of skills and one will (usually) never learn basic emergency maneuvering on a big bike and one day when they need that skill that was never developed, they become a static.
Start out on a middleweight bike, this is a heavyweight at 279 kg, 615 lbs. There are some middleweight bikes with good wind protection, BMW F900XR, 750GS...etc, Yamaha Tracer 900, Kawasaki Versys 650 & Ninja SX, V-Strom 650, Honda CB650F, Ninja650, the list goes on and on, just depends on your budget and brand you want.
Ride safe,
Scott
@@NothingToProve + Triumph Tiger 900 (GT/RALLY)
The biggest problem with all BMW motorcycles in north america is there are not nearly enough dealerships .
Super Test.... 👍👍 Werde sie demnächst mal Probe fahren.. Die neue GS 1300 die ende 2022 vorgestellt werden soll hat das neue Display natürlich auch. Wie dann alle BMW irgendwann... Es gibt keinen Navigator 7 mehr laut meinem BMW Händler. Deine Motorrad Test sind echt der Hammer. 😇
At 15' 05'' you ask BMW to add the TFT to the 1250GS. They won't, as you go on to say, because I guess they'll save it for the 1300GS that is due next year.
Probably 2023 or more probably 2024, yes, then I'll buy a 1300GS! 😁👍
Navigation is not good enough. No camera alerts, no fuel stops or other POIs. These are essential for me. I have installed a Chigee Android Auto screen so I can use TomTom from my phone.
I have the K1300R 2009y. and i'm very happy with it.. But I wouldn't mind to have something like this in my garage.! BMW produces the best bikes, danke Deutschland.!
Omg your voice is identical to that one of Eric "Badlands" Booker
Another awesome video.....Im ready to turn my '18 K1600B for this bike. If you can answer one thing for me as Im still a bit confused....do you down load the app and thats it???? You can input routes from the tft??? or does it have to be inputted from the phone? Im with you.....if this comes on the GS or GSA, I'm in!!!!!!! Thanks for your input!!!
Yes, no, yes. There are the 3 answers to your 3 questions. 😁👍
Every thing is done on the smart phone and the display is just a mirror image or read out of your phone. That's it. The "engine" behind the BMW app is TomTom so it's pretty good 👍 So if you drive a BMW car or motorcycle, it's the same navigation logic on both (they look exactly the same whether your in the car or bike). BMW partnered with TomTom to do this with their cars several years ago and it's just now trickling down to the motorcycles. All OEMs are doing this, VW, Ford, GM...etc. so this is the future and hand held gps systems (Garmin/TomTom...etc.) for cars and motorcycles will slowly fade away.
ride safe,
Scott
P.S. Oh, just a side note, BMW has some connection issues with iOS (Apple phones), I have an Android (Samsung S20FE) (so I didn't have any problems with loosing connection between the phone and bike for the week that I had this bike) so if you have an iPhone you might lose connection several times throughout the day (at least that is what some owners of iPhones report). Honda (Africa Twin/Goldwing for example) does a better job with iPhone but not as good with Android. So if you have iPhone, then you may want to wait for BMW to work out some issues 🙁🙄🤨
Very nice, reminds me of the k1600
Great job! Well done!
1 year later, you bought this.👍👍👍
Great review. Great sampling hi lo speed and what can I say? I am bias. I own 2 RT’s. In my view (1m 92cm/6’2”) what a commanding view I have; the RT’s are the best sport touring motorcycles ever made
Nice bike for sure. 😎🏍💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦 thanks for sharing 🥂
Nice review really like your ride could you tell me what jacket you’re wearing
Thank you, it's from Rukka.
Hi again thanks for you reply to my query about your Rukka jacket
Can’t seem to find it on their site......
Hope you could tell me which one it is.....
Your ride reviews are some of the best.....
They have a nice flow to follow and then your gone......
I am sharing you with my rider buddies..
Enjoying the ride....
Yea, it's an older model, got it over 6 years ago, they are always changing stuff. The name is Rukka Gore-Tex Pro Jacket. It comes with a full zip in thermo liner. Basically it's their cold weather riding jacket, the coldest one that they made at that time & had matching pants too but I really don't wear those unless it's really, really cold, then I'll have the pants on too.
Rukka does not make a "bad" jacket, they specialize in cold weather riding, well they are from Finland, so they are used to riding in the cold! But they also cost more than the other brands but the jackets last a long long time. Mines 6 years old and I still love it and have had no problems with it, no zipper problems, no tears/rips...etc.
I'm glad you are enjoying my channel and thank you for sharing with your friends, I appreciate it!
Ride safe,
Scott
Navigation updates are not free for BMW cars, why? Yet another continuing income stream for BMW following the Apple business model.
Nice bike, nice scenery.
Brilliant review as usual Scott. Very very tempting to own this bike. Should be herec in Australia near the end of April I believe. Already earmarked for a test ride at the local dealership. Thanks again mate.
Be careful when you take it for a test ride, don't bring any means or forms of payment with you cause you'll want to put some money down right then and there...at least I did! Good luck and I hope you get to see it in person soon!
Ride safe,
Scott
@@NothingToProve I will certainly heed that advice mate, otherwise my wife would probably rip me a new one!! Thanks again mate for all of your great reviews.
I like the camera on your handlebars. What is it? And are you using a special wide-angle filter on it or specific settings to get that nice effect?
Hi Richard, it's a gopro Max, 360 camera, everything is done in post.
Ride safe,
Scott
Great review. Does the navigation app use a lot of phone data?
None.
Would you be as happy with the new RT without the extra options?
Well, the navigation app is standard (on all BMW's even the ones without this huge TFT with turn by turn), so yea, love it.
another great review on my recent favorite channel. greetings from Taiwan
I own the same RT (2021), got it 2 weeks ago, and I loose map on the TFT quite frequently. Any clue? I have an iPhone XS (2018). A specific setting to adjust somewhere on the phone?
Because as it is, with all those connexions issues, the nav is pretty unusable :((
Great review by the way, I am very very fond od your coolness ☺️
Cheers from France ✌️
I got that too at first last year on my F900XR at first, then I went in and gave the BMW app all the permissions it wanted and did a few settings on the phone that BMW recommended for the app to run freely. Then that fixed almost all connection issues. On my 9 day Alps trip, it happened the first few days, once or twice a day then one night I was ticked off at it, and did all the "settings" for Android cause I have Samsung Galaxy series and then the connection issues stopped. Then it would happen like once every other day vs. 2 to 3 times a day.
I actually wish it had happened while filming, then I would have had something to complain about and put it in the thumb nail and get more clicks! But of course it didn't happen while filming 🙁
Ride safe,
Scott
Yes, navigation is very nice, if, if you do nit have an Apple iPhone connected to the BMW Connected App. This connection get problems after 30-100km, You habe to stop bike, grap phone out of the box, start map again. BMW tells you and me that its an Apple problem in bluetooth and they work with Apple to resolbe it somewhere in the future. This is the bad side if connecticity, you have problems from foreign components you can not controll. If they do not solve this in the next 3 weeks in need an Android pnone only for navigation