A Bullet Proof legal argument: Tetris [Tengen] | NES Works Gaiden 061

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • Well, it's finally happened: Nintendo and Tengen have filed for divorce, in the form of a $100 million lawsuit. But, as it turns out, Nintendo gets to keep the kids. And by "kids" I mean "Tetris." A shame, too, because honestly Tetris turned out a lot better growing up with Tengen-an uglier child, but smarter. Nintendo's had the looks and the charisma, though, and ultimately that's the one people remember. Life isn't fair, but that's how it goes.
    In addition to exploring the illegal Tengen version of Tetris, this episode also spends some time with the OTHER version of Tetris for Nintendo's console: The Bullet Proof Software release that only shipped in Japan. When we look back on the NES era, it always feels like American kids got the short end of the stick while their peers in Japan got all the good stuff. Well, this is the exception. Tengen Tetris may offer a good argument for being a superior work to Nintendo's take on the game, but both stomp BPS Tetris into a muddy puddle.
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Комментарии • 151

  • @FistyDollars
    @FistyDollars 7 месяцев назад +106

    Embarrassing story - Alexey Pajitnov was at a barcade near me doing signings, and I thought I was very clever by bringing my copy of Tengen Tetris for him to sign, instead of all the standard NES or Game Boy ones everyone else did. He refused to sign it, saying it was "pirate." I got a photo with him, and slunk off wishing for the sweet release of death.

    • @hdofu
      @hdofu 7 месяцев назад +9

      Next time come with a Go Retro handheld Unit and see how he reacts 😂

    • @RyanParreno
      @RyanParreno 7 месяцев назад +13

      That's too bad. I'm sure he and Henk know that that version of the game is well beloved since Radica made a recreation of it as a plug-and-play, with the official Tetris license

    • @Mansini77
      @Mansini77 7 месяцев назад +11

      Oof. Well, at least you got a photo. A shame, Tengen’s Tetris is superior to the Nintendo version

    • @bootmii98
      @bootmii98 7 месяцев назад

      @@RyanParreno Radica also made a super crap LCD game with the official Tetris license, but your point stands.

  • @moshingsafely
    @moshingsafely 7 месяцев назад +32

    I found a copy of the Tengen version for sale at a retro game shop, where it had been mistaken for the official Nintendo version and was sold to me for 50 cents. Good times.

  • @TacoDiceCosas
    @TacoDiceCosas 7 месяцев назад +26

    As a Mexican who grew up with multicarts, this was my first exposure to Tetris. This songs live rent free in my mind forever.

  • @RndStranger
    @RndStranger 7 месяцев назад +34

    The Famicom Tetris was actually extremely popular in Japan. It was the tenth best selling Famicom game with 1.8 million copies, numbers that only Dragon Quest and Super Mario were pulling by 1988. You'll find fewer defenders of it now, of course.
    Also, thanks to the licensing chaos, many of those BPS Tetris carts are licensed from Tengen...

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +12

      A thing like that.

    • @PrekiFromPoland
      @PrekiFromPoland 7 месяцев назад +5

      Interesting that NTSC-U and PAL regions received completely different game than Japan. A better one, since BPS Tetris is... dare I say, quite wonky.

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN 7 месяцев назад

      When you say Famicom Tetris do you mean the BPS Tetris or the later one made by Nintendo themselves?

    • @PrekiFromPoland
      @PrekiFromPoland 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@AlexRNThe BPS Tetris. The one developed in-house by Nintendo was strangely released only overseas... I think.

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@PrekiFromPoland bummer because the Nintendo one was incredible. The o it thing lacking was a 2 player mode. The BPS one looked ugly and played worse.

  • @jonathogm
    @jonathogm 7 месяцев назад +23

    The best place on RUclips.
    There was a minor oopsie here at 4:43

    • @alex_-yz9to
      @alex_-yz9to 7 месяцев назад +21

      "You press... Which doesnt feel natural" - Jeremy Parish 2024
      Truely a quote for the ages

    • @jonathogm
      @jonathogm 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's the elusive 'blank' button @@alex_-yz9to 😄

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN 7 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah I had to rewind 3 times to make sure I hadn't misheard but nope, that sentence really didn't make sense.

    • @enmunate
      @enmunate 7 месяцев назад +2

      What do you press????

    • @chazmaru9583
      @chazmaru9583 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@enmunateit’s ↓ on the d-pad to rotate pieces on the Famicom version.

  • @HPRshredder
    @HPRshredder 7 месяцев назад +43

    Easily one of the versions of Tetris of all time

    • @diamondsmasher
      @diamondsmasher 7 месяцев назад +8

      Truly whelming experience

    • @thenightstar8312
      @thenightstar8312 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@diamondsmasher You do realize that MANY people prefer this version, right?

    • @HPRshredder
      @HPRshredder 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@thenightstar8312: ​ @diamondsmasher didn't say it was underwhelming. Nor overwhelming. Simply "whelming". Positively in existence.

    • @goldenphonautogram6141
      @goldenphonautogram6141 4 месяца назад +3

      @@HPRshredderyoooooo nice seeing you here dude love your videos

  • @absolutezeronow7928
    @absolutezeronow7928 7 месяцев назад +26

    It's definitely nice to see you evenhandedly covering this, and listing Henk Rogers's crimes on the Famicom version of Tetris. Rogers would eventually develop better versions of Tetris. Nice to hear that we'll be seeing more unofficial Tengen games soon.

  • @MrMegaManFan
    @MrMegaManFan 7 месяцев назад +24

    I remember almost 25 years ago when Tengen Tetris was "the holy grail" among my circle of NES collecting friends. Times have certainly changed!!

  • @Dwedit
    @Dwedit 7 месяцев назад +5

    One forgotten part of the Tengen Tetris story is VS Tetris, a fully Nintendo licensed game running on NES-like arcade hardware. Tengen Tetris is literally a continuation of VS Tetris, you can even find the prototype builds. Earlier builds start out strongly resembling VS Tetris, then later builds resemble its final release.

  • @Obscusion2
    @Obscusion2 7 месяцев назад +15

    "Tengen, being a division of Atari Corp., had no legal connection to Atari Games"
    Uhhh, Jeremy, that's the complete opposite of the truth, sadly. Tengen was Atari Games' home division (which you even show on screen at 14:18) & had no legal connection to Atari Corp., which was busy working on the Atari 7800 & Lynx at this time. Tengen would eventually get transformed into Time Warner Interactive and is now owned by WB Games, same as what happened to Atari Games. Yeah, "Atari" is a confusing mess, at times.

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +12

      Yes, I know, I’m an idiot and always screw this up.

  • @traewatkins931
    @traewatkins931 7 месяцев назад +3

    For me this is the Definitive version of Tetris.
    The coop game was so much fun.

  • @grasslandgraphics
    @grasslandgraphics 7 месяцев назад +3

    man we loved the music, and we loved it when the dancers would seemingly show up at random when you advanced to the next level (at least in my young mind it was random, obviously advancing to the next level was not random)

  • @wusstunes
    @wusstunes 7 месяцев назад +14

    Co-op mode looks wild. That's one mode that would be interesting to see fleshed out.

    • @massivepileup
      @massivepileup 7 месяцев назад +4

      I believe there are more Tetris games that include such a mode, one of the Grandmaster games for example.

    • @100hundert
      @100hundert 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@massivepileup Exactly - it's a mode in Tetris The Grandmaster 2 Plus (2000) as "Doubles" (ported to Switch and PS4 last year)

    • @SuperKlondike64
      @SuperKlondike64 7 месяцев назад

      I think Tetris and Dr. Mario has it, but I could be wrong.

  • @EnigPartyhaus
    @EnigPartyhaus 7 месяцев назад +8

    The funny thing is that Nintendo's release has the code for 2-player mode inside of itself but they just didn't work on it long enough to reach the full screen UI stage because it'd cut into the marketing and sales of the Game Boy release

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +5

      Yep, I’ll be getting into that soon enough

  • @jiminboo
    @jiminboo 7 месяцев назад +6

    The weirdest thing about Tengen Tetris is that the famous “Konami Code” works, for some odd reason… can only be used one time per game, it converts any tetromino into an “I” piece. I can’t believe you didn’t mention this Jeremy 😅

  • @DarkLordNick999
    @DarkLordNick999 7 месяцев назад +4

    I regret missing out on the Tengen version of Tetris. If nothing else to add to my Tengen cartridges.
    I hope to see more Tengen cartridges reviewed.

  • @alanlawrence6584
    @alanlawrence6584 7 месяцев назад +2

    Loved this version of Tetris. It was available for rent at my local Blockbuster Video back in the day. The cooperative play was such a cool innovation.

  • @chaseman94
    @chaseman94 7 месяцев назад +2

    I remember buying my complete copy of Tengen Tetris back in 1997 for $10 with from a video store that was phasing out it's NES games. In 2015 I ended up selling it along with some rare NES games I bought back in the late 90s from Funcoland before it became Gamestop because my son needed some clothes for school and I splurged on my 1st trip to Las Vegas with my girlfriend. I still have the box ( though it's a bit rough)and manual(somewhere) because I didn't have enough time to look for it back then. It was worth it.

  • @Neuvost
    @Neuvost 7 месяцев назад +3

    I think including a two-player mode without interaction is (accidentally?) brilliant. I'm imagining me and my sister both wanting to play regular Tetris at the same time. If a parent bought an NES to keep their kids busy/quiet, maybe the ideal game is one that doesn't require taking turns, isn't competitive, and isn't co-op! Nothing to start an argument!

  • @zetsubou-san8390
    @zetsubou-san8390 4 месяца назад +1

    i can't believed I identified Earth Girls Are Easy from a 6-second clip when I haven't even seen the movie in over 24 years

  • @MrERLoner
    @MrERLoner 7 месяцев назад +2

    Douglas would have been proud.of the reference. Also it appears that the nes controller buttons were turned into.blocks in the thumbnail. Lovely touches. Thanks JP

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +3

      Oh, the square buttons in the new thumbnail logo are a reference to the original Famicom model, which had square rubber buttons. They were terrible and Nintendo quickly changed them to round plastic. But I guess it is a cool coincidence that the new logo debuted here.

  • @PenisGabber
    @PenisGabber 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great video as always! One nitpick-the 'controlled hard drop' you mentioned in the video is usually called a soft drop.

  • @NickBeake-cm5fx
    @NickBeake-cm5fx 7 месяцев назад +17

    Tengen was not a division of Atari Corp., they were a division of Atari Games. Also, Tengen Tetris was not developed by Tengen; It was developed by Ed Logg, Kris Moser, and Brad Fuller, who were all employees of Atari Games and all worked on the arcade version. I'm pretty sure it is the only NES game developed by members of the coin-op division.

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +13

      Yes, I know, I’m a moron. I get it.

    • @NickBeake-cm5fx
      @NickBeake-cm5fx 7 месяцев назад +3

      Still a huge fan of your work! @@JeremyParish

  • @hisham_hm
    @hisham_hm 7 месяцев назад +4

    I grew up with this version of Tetris! I love watching the Classic Tetris renaissance videos, I wish this version was the one that became popular :)

  • @pimentonstudiocuracao7753
    @pimentonstudiocuracao7753 7 месяцев назад +1

    You can only love the passion put in the tengen teris, every latin NES clone came with a copy of it, and the little guys dancing was just perfect

  • @johnnygrind77
    @johnnygrind77 7 месяцев назад +2

    Oh heck yeah, there's an "Earth Girls Are Easy" clip in the intro!

  • @rabiroden
    @rabiroden 7 месяцев назад

    This really was one of the first "holy grails" of NES collecting. It's interesting, looking at old fan sites from the early 2000s, reading what they wrote about what would be rare and valuable, there was a lot of focus on unlicensed stuff. There was a period of time where Bubble Bath Babes was a bigger name among collectors than Little Samson.

  • @pragmax
    @pragmax 7 месяцев назад +2

    Ah yes, the game that couldn't exist due to licensing, shouldn't exist due to the 10NES chip, and won't exist due to recalling the end product. Yet here it is, in all it's weird, impossible, glory. Thank you for covering my absolute favorite gaming history story so succinctly.

  • @KasumiKenshirou
    @KasumiKenshirou 7 месяцев назад +1

    I didn't realize there were THREE NES/Famicom versions of Tetris. There's also another completely different NES ROM version made by The Tetris Company that is used on handheld devices that play multiple NES games.

  • @steviecomebacks5541
    @steviecomebacks5541 7 месяцев назад +3

    Amazing Hitchhikers Guide reference! Gold star for you, sir

    • @BenCol
      @BenCol 7 месяцев назад

      Jeremy sure is one Hoopy Frood.

  • @jasonblalock4429
    @jasonblalock4429 7 месяцев назад +7

    From what I understand of the rights dispute, it was a more subtle than miscommunications. As I see it, the case hinged on the question "Is a console a computer?" If a console *is* a computer, then Tengen legitimately licensed part of the Tetris computer rights. If not, they didn't. It feels like that aspect of the case could have gone either way, since it's an arbitrary definitional distinction.
    But all the bullshit Tengen pulled to get at Nintendo's 10NES information? That was so beyond stupid I still can't believe the Atari execs approved the scheme. Did they not have lawyers??

    • @XanthinZarda
      @XanthinZarda 7 месяцев назад +2

      They had lawyers, and cocaine!

  • @PM-xc8oo
    @PM-xc8oo 7 месяцев назад +2

    I personally really like the Tengen version of Tetris. The vs mode in particular was a lot of fun. It'd be hard to pick a favorite version though since the "official" NES version is much easier on the eyes and ears.

  • @thecunninlynguist
    @thecunninlynguist 7 месяцев назад +2

    I remember my uncle had this and gauntlet. It was probably my first exposure to non licensed nes games.

  • @Screamers85
    @Screamers85 7 месяцев назад +5

    But what did Nintendo Power say? Oh wait...

  • @roguerifter9724
    @roguerifter9724 7 месяцев назад +1

    My family owned this as a kid along with a few other Tengen games. A childhood friend had a lot of rich relatives who utterly failed coordinating gift buying so he ended up with a lot of duplicates including multiple copies of Tengen Tetris. His mom knew my mom liked Tetris on Gameboy, and dad liked the arcade game but didn't like playing Gameboy so she bought one of her son's extra copies and gave it to us.
    One of the great question of gaming IMO is how in the name of all that was ever sane did Nintendo not realize the lack of multiplayer in the NES version was a bad idea?

  • @Scarybug
    @Scarybug 7 месяцев назад +2

    Tengen Tetris was the first version I played. I guess that explains why in my head the pieces have specific colors. It's sad NES tetris didn't have a head to head mode but interesting that the modern tournaments use a romhack to make sure competitors get the same piece sequence.

  • @Technosphile
    @Technosphile 7 месяцев назад +1

    Jeremy is one of those players who waits for long block with increasing desperation.

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад

      Is there some other way to play? Weird

  • @Caztro72
    @Caztro72 7 месяцев назад +1

    In 1989 I remember finding a copy of Tengen Tetris at a discount store in Chicago called Zayre. They seemed to have been slow to adhere to the recall and the game was still available on their shelves. Being an unlicensed game, I treated it with less respect than my "Official Nintendo" cartridges. While the rest of my collection was CIB pristine, I allowed Tengen Tetris to be loaned out (box, instructions, and cartridge) to my friend Debbie. When it was returned to me, the Tetris box was beaten up (although the game and instructions were "ok"). Today that copy of Tengen Tetris still resides in my collection, but it reminds me of how dumb I was to treat it as some kind of "bootleg" game with no value.

  • @RandomBitzzz
    @RandomBitzzz 7 месяцев назад

    TENGEN Tetris was awesome. I had a friend with a copy and we'd stay up all night playing it head to head.

  • @orpheus2626
    @orpheus2626 7 месяцев назад +4

    Man that BPS version's controls are terrible being used to the other versions !
    At least there's the technotris music, the best part of it I guess ?

  • @jonothanthrace1530
    @jonothanthrace1530 7 месяцев назад +1

    I feel like there's an entire book's worth of material in the realm of companies getting licenses to properties from people who didn't properly have the rights to said properties.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou 7 месяцев назад +2

      In the "Disney Afternoon" era, Disney started production on a new version of Rocky & Bullwinkle. Then they learned they only had the home video rights to the show and not the rights to make their own version.

    • @jonothanthrace1530
      @jonothanthrace1530 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@KasumiKenshirouI didn't know they even had the video rights! That explains the extremely-hyped VHS releases.

  • @newmoonlegacy1508
    @newmoonlegacy1508 7 месяцев назад +3

    Yay! Another episode of GoodNintengens!

  • @GameBabbleShow
    @GameBabbleShow 7 месяцев назад

    I can confirm that Tengen Tetris went for over $100 back in the 90s. That and the first print run of Maniac Mansion where you could microwave the hamster...also Base Wars for some reason? That last one might have been a local thing, but Base Wars was weirdly desirable in the mid-west.

  • @Davyn_Regnilfreid
    @Davyn_Regnilfreid 6 месяцев назад

    7:54 "This made a lot of people very angry, and has been widely regarded as a 'bad move'."
    Alright, Douglas Adams. 😆

  • @dreamlandnightmare
    @dreamlandnightmare 7 месяцев назад

    They may have pulled those Tengen Tetris cartridges quickly from store shelves, but I sure remember seeing lots of ads for Tengen Tetris (and the other Tengen titles) in gaming magazines and comics as a little boy.

  • @charon59
    @charon59 7 месяцев назад +1

    It's wild to me that you took the time to explain, in detail, the mechanics of Tetris. I'm sure there are still people out there that don't know how Tetris works, but still, the fact that that you felt it was necessary to do so is both hilarious, and a testament to your scholarly acumen.

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +4

      These versions of Tetris differ in significant ways from the versions most people know, so it felt worth giving a proper breakdown. And I do know people who have never played Tetris. Weirdos

    • @blarghblargh
      @blarghblargh 7 месяцев назад +1

      what we accept as obvious today can easily become lost to history if someone doesn't fully capture it.
      every day, new people are born who won't ever play tetris. that percentage will likely increase over time.

  • @vaguerant
    @vaguerant 7 месяцев назад +6

    7:53 Don't panic, everything ended up working out for Atari in the long run ... right?

    • @XanthinZarda
      @XanthinZarda 7 месяцев назад +1

      Which Atari? ;)

    • @pragmax
      @pragmax 7 месяцев назад

      @@XanthinZarda And how long a run are we talkin', exactly?

  • @Retroman8077
    @Retroman8077 7 месяцев назад +1

    Oh boy oh boy is this great......first a kid a week or so ago got the kill screen, then AI, now you covering it. Nicely done

  • @Euclid_girlie
    @Euclid_girlie 7 месяцев назад

    I was reminiscing about legendary wings which was one of the first games I ever played. So I typed in the name and found your video on jt.
    I cannot believe I've been watching RUclips video game commentary for so long and I've never found your channel. You have maybe the best presentation and fact-based history knowledge I have ever seen. I absolutely love your channel and I will be a regular watcher.

  • @retronemesis7064
    @retronemesis7064 7 месяцев назад

    I obtained my copy at the flea market for 40 bucks many years ago. The black Tengen carts were the first complete set of NES games by one publisher that I collected.

  • @XanthinZarda
    @XanthinZarda 7 месяцев назад +1

    It sure has that Atari sound, that's how I would describe the music and sound of this. The Tengen bootlegs I had were Pac-Man and Roadrunner.
    Addendum: And people wonder why I want nothing to do with the retro games market. Just seeing that price list for _Super Mario Bros_ is why.

  • @ShadowEl
    @ShadowEl 7 месяцев назад

    I grew up on the Old Internet reading stories of people nabbing "Tengen Tetris" (whatever THAT was) at Funcoland. Come here to the comments...to see people regaling the same kind of stories decades later! The legend of Tengen Tetris lives on.

  • @tacotoosday42
    @tacotoosday42 7 месяцев назад +3

    Love the Tetris story, I recommend the movie that came out last year on Apple.

  • @goldenage
    @goldenage 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a soft spot for Gauntlet , it was my first Nintendo game (aside from the included mario/duckhunt)

  • @robintst
    @robintst 7 месяцев назад +1

    I remember renting Tengen Tetris back then and honestly not thinking anything of the fact that it was in a different cartridge shell. Later on I started to think that they were mimicking the design of later Atari 2600 cartridge shells that started coming with the slanted edge label side which seems like an extra layer of insult to Nintendo. The funny thing is, their Rabbit chip being a clone of the 10NES chip is what helped folks later on sort out NES emulation since they left all the debug function in it.

  • @WendeXTX
    @WendeXTX 7 месяцев назад +1

    Curiously, there are some print adverts that show Tetris alongside the initial Tengen releases with the Nintendo seal of quality. I'm guessing it was almost a licensed release.
    Come to think of it, what is the timeframe between Tengen releasing the grey carts and their own black carts of Pac-Man, RBI, and Gauntlet?

  • @InfectiousGroovePodcast
    @InfectiousGroovePodcast 3 месяца назад

    I was the only kid I knew who owned the Tengen Tetris when it was released. I felt pretty rad when it was banned and everyone else wanted it. Simpler times!

  • @TimGilkison
    @TimGilkison 7 месяцев назад +2

    Earth Girls are Easy! Love that movie

  • @egocide9034
    @egocide9034 7 месяцев назад

    That Earth Girls Are Easy clip... I always recalled imagery from that movie when I was little, but didn't know if it was legit, or a fever dream, or what until was a bit older lol.

  • @TanookiSuit
    @TanookiSuit 7 месяцев назад

    Such a gem. And I remember the hundred dollar ask too in 1995. I’ve had a copy for a long time with the manual, sleeve and poster. It’ll die with my collection. It’s better than the new version across the board music aside. Gameboy and this are my go to.

  • @gldni17
    @gldni17 7 месяцев назад

    I remember growing up with the NES official Tetris release and one day finding this cartridge at my cousin's house where I tried it out for a bit and was underwhelmed. I was always more of a Dr. Mario kid than a Tetris kid anyway. However, that same cousin also indirectly introduced me to Final Fantasy, Kirby, and Armored Core, as well as getting to see the SNES release of Ultraman, so it was a net positive for my personal gaming history.

  • @eddievhfan1984
    @eddievhfan1984 7 месяцев назад

    15:10 Jeremy, is that your whip?

  • @BackForwardPunch
    @BackForwardPunch 7 месяцев назад

    The stoled code thing sounds pretty underhanded, I’m surprised they couldn’t see how that’d come back to bite them.

  • @dawsonescott8428
    @dawsonescott8428 7 месяцев назад +2

    I honestly like the monochrome and weird outlines of the tengen tetris aesthetic. It’s the smooth peanut butter to the NES tetris chunky

  • @teeveeparty
    @teeveeparty 7 месяцев назад

    2:27 I can't believe you made us watch all that only to cut away right before the sweet sweet payoff of a tetris!!

  • @michaelcirco3948
    @michaelcirco3948 7 месяцев назад

    Earth Girls are Easy is a great lil comedy

  • @smudgetwo
    @smudgetwo 7 месяцев назад

    incredibly glad you didn't mention the apple tv movie whatsoever

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +2

      I got 10 minutes in and found it so wildly corny I had to shut it off immediately.

  • @mischitary
    @mischitary 7 месяцев назад +1

    I never played Tengen Tetris but I did own the unlicensed black cart Tengen Pac-Man. I definitely played like, 95% of all the Pac-Man I played in my lifetime on that bad boy.

  • @jamesmoss3424
    @jamesmoss3424 7 месяцев назад

    I remember playing The Arcade version of Tetris when I was a kid it's excellent and the tengen version is very rare. 😀👍🎮

  • @asdnskdvdvkzufudbdhduhd
    @asdnskdvdvkzufudbdhduhd 7 месяцев назад

    as russian, we preferred chinese "magic jewerly" 1 and 2 games. Superior to tetris, plays almost like segas columns. Everyone in my family including elderly, loved the magic jewelry game. Kind of ironic really, since we all had various tetris to choose from but that was the best one

  • @safetinspector2
    @safetinspector2 7 месяцев назад

    Let me tell you, the Atari arcade Tetris had one thing going for it. My little Russian folk dancer, who would dance to celebrate my wins, would tap his foot impatiently when I'm taking too long, and if I'm feeling upset I can even interrupt his little dance and summon a hook to yank him from his open window where he'd been writhing like an overdressed cage-dancer.

  • @Tirgo69
    @Tirgo69 7 месяцев назад

    My relatives had both Nintendo and Tengen Tetris. I thought it was way radical to have two player and so preferred Tengen. In retrospect, it isn't much of a competitive mode, but I thought it was cool

  • @thenightstar8312
    @thenightstar8312 7 месяцев назад

    Man, you could not be more wrong about the reception of this game. MANY people swear by this game being the superior version to the NES release.

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +2

      Sure, lots of people prefer it, but that's the NES insider viewpoint. Millions and millions of people only bought or rented the Nintendo version and never knew about the Tengen release. Taking a sample from people who watch dry NES retrospectives is going to give a very different result than taking a sample from people who mostly remember Tetris from playing it on summer vacation at Grandma's or whatever.

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 7 месяцев назад

    I always loved the arcade version and was bummed nobody brought it to home console.

  • @kennethchia4194
    @kennethchia4194 7 месяцев назад +1

    The Tengen version of Tetris was without a doubt one of my most valuable possessions as a child, not only because of its rarity but because it was far superior to the Nintendo version. (And I am extremely frustrated that I have no idea where the cartridge is now.)

  • @gfhrtshergheghegewgewgew1730
    @gfhrtshergheghegewgewgew1730 7 месяцев назад +2

    i don't agree with down being an force drop, i rather down be an accelerated drop and up being an instant drop

  • @flatlander3963
    @flatlander3963 4 месяца назад

    you mentioned that all other early versions let you drop the blocks slowly, but I recall the Spectrum Holobyte Mac port also having the same behavior as this unfortunate-looking BPS version. I found a playthrough and manual online and both seem to confirm my recollection, but they're not quite decisive proof either. as i recall though the Game Boy version seemed like a great upgrade in that regard (there was no reason for us to get the NES version)

  • @jescis0
    @jescis0 7 месяцев назад

    I actually have a copy of the BPS Tetris version from 1988 btw… it's not as easy as the NES/Gameboy versions… you also have life hearts 😉😉

  • @Kyuhamiko
    @Kyuhamiko Месяц назад

    6:04 Henk Roger flew to the US and camped near Tengen's office just to get the rights to make Tetris for the Famicom, and considering how popular the Famicom was in 1988 thanks to Dragon Quest III and Super Mario Bros. 3, I really don't think Tetris on Famicom was an unloved project
    It's important to note that Tetris on Famicom was the very first video game console version of Tetris, my guess is that the devs simply didn't have a reference as to how Tetris should control using a d-pad and two buttons. Tetris on Game Boy was developed by BPS too, but it had better controls

  • @mario64remix
    @mario64remix 7 месяцев назад

    Despite the lack of colors once the pieces have been placed down, I'm of the opinion that the Tengen version looks far, far better than the Nintendo release. There's no boring grey bricks in the background and just look at that detailed title screen!

  • @danielespeziari5545
    @danielespeziari5545 7 месяцев назад

    The two Ataris were so distinct that this game never appeared on Atari 7800, which would have really helped this console fare better against the NES and the Master System

  • @PSYCOMMUnist
    @PSYCOMMUnist 7 месяцев назад

    Hard drops are instant. Fast drops are sped up.

  • @Bro3256
    @Bro3256 7 месяцев назад +3

    I'm a bit mixed on the Tengen version myself, particularly with the way it controls compared to the Nintendo version. Feature wise this is the better game but when it comes to playability Nintendo not only wins but they have been winning for years thanks to that version being the go-to competitive version for classic Tetris. Those news stories about the 13 year old player who "beat Tetris" played Nintendo's NES version and his accomplishment wouldn't even have been possible if it weren't for the huge discovery of players figuring out a new grip to hold an NES controller to roll the D-Pad extremely quickly.

    • @kosmosyche
      @kosmosyche 7 месяцев назад +1

      I played both versions in the past and I got to admit I never found one version significantly better than the other. I though they were both quite decent and easy to control in their own way. It's just that one version was much more popular (and available) for obvious reasons and became the standard, but I can totally see in alternative reality the Tengen version becoming that standard, I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with it.

    • @Bro3256
      @Bro3256 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@kosmosyche Oh there's absolutely value in Tengen's game and I totally respect folks who prefer it over Nintendo's its just from my personal experience I don't like how stiff the movement is in Tengen.

  • @Retroman8000
    @Retroman8000 2 месяца назад

    Why does the Tetris championship consider the NES game their goto format for play. You would think they'd use a custom made one

  • @crithon
    @crithon 7 месяцев назад

    excellent work

  • @royb5820
    @royb5820 7 месяцев назад

    Oh damn Jeremy P

  • @bobjames1933
    @bobjames1933 7 месяцев назад

    Norm got a mention.

  • @JonLeung1
    @JonLeung1 7 месяцев назад

    8:39 - five I-blocks in a row???

  • @MiguelPaulettePerez-bj8ml
    @MiguelPaulettePerez-bj8ml 7 месяцев назад

    You know we've been waiting for this JP.

  • @MasterRBertLink
    @MasterRBertLink 5 месяцев назад

    Could you please cover all the other Tetris games by BPS including Tetris 2 + Bombliss?

  • @jonothanthrace1530
    @jonothanthrace1530 7 месяцев назад

    Why is the "Next" space blank starting at 4:16? Is that a hard mode option?

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +3

      Just Tetris being pessimistic about the future... highly relatable IMO

  • @Hwi1son
    @Hwi1son 7 месяцев назад

    The "I" should be referred to as the hero hence forth lol

  • @andrewkaye2108
    @andrewkaye2108 7 месяцев назад

    I love the irony. Atari sued Activision years before, for trying to make unauthorized games for the 2600,
    Then they turn around and try and do the same thing to Nintendo.
    SMH

  • @rodylermglez
    @rodylermglez 7 месяцев назад

    Absolutely wild how thanks to soviet "tenemos" mentality the unlicensed version ended up as the superior version.

  • @abraveastronaut
    @abraveastronaut 7 месяцев назад

    But what did Nintendo Power say???

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +1

      LET'S ATTACK AGGRESSIVELY

  • @joesshows6793
    @joesshows6793 7 месяцев назад

    20:10 I still have my copy. Hell no I was not sending it back!

  • @billkendrick1
    @billkendrick1 7 месяцев назад

    Err, wasn't Tengen a branch of Atari GAMES, and *not* Atari CORP?

    • @JeremyParish
      @JeremyParish  7 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, you are like the fifth person to remind me that I always get those mixed up. Sorry for my stupidity

    • @billkendrick1
      @billkendrick1 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@JeremyParish Heh sorry. I did skim the comments to see if anyone else asked, but alas one cannot Ctrl-F in the RUclips mobile app. 🙃

  • @mikececconi2677
    @mikececconi2677 7 месяцев назад

    Love the EARTH GIRLS ARE EASY clip. It's the perfect film for anyone with any sexuality at all, having Peak Geena Davis AND Peak Jeff Goldblum in it. If at least one of them doesn't do it for you, you're ace and that's fine and now you know now.

  • @joesshows6793
    @joesshows6793 7 месяцев назад

    This was the version I owned and played!

  • @changkwangoh
    @changkwangoh 7 месяцев назад

    Has anyone beat this version? To me, it’s the REAL console version! Not the Nintendo one!