Facing up to the nightmare!

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @rickwarner516
    @rickwarner516 Год назад +10

    We better pay attention to what is going on in Europe, just a matter of time before we get them here as well. Thank you Richard for sounding the alarm we need to wake up

  • @baraktzfanya3980
    @baraktzfanya3980 Год назад +2

    Dear Richard,, I use copped chicken meat soaked in Confidor (Neonicotin) to fight those Hornets. The hornets takes the meat to the nest, and it kills the whole colony at once.

  • @peterbco.9362
    @peterbco.9362 Год назад +1

    Hello Richard 👋👋
    Just watch your video on Asian hornets you talked about the japrode catching system.
    Personally we just bought the screens over there ( even some friends made some with 3D printers.)
    Then you can look up on the web for the grey plastic boxes , then you just have to cut out a whole and glue the screens on them . (Depends how many you want) but at the end it will only cost you the third of the price..
    I used several during all 2023 , I think I had 10 times more hornets in the vetopharma then the japro...
    Try them and let us know what you think about them .. 👍👍
    I use the vetopharma and the same bait you use and for the moment I did not find better.
    Peter & CO

  • @lasource811
    @lasource811 Год назад +4

    It was the worst year last year with the hornet with no cold winter. This year is looking like it could be bad again (mild winter). I was literally watching them kill bees on the ivy. Glad you are so honest about the losses, helps us all learn.

    • @lasource811
      @lasource811 Год назад

      Am down 50% by the way and consider my self lucky. I know several beeks who lost 80% or more.

  • @davidvowles3285
    @davidvowles3285 Год назад

    Thank you for the detailed description of Asian hornet behaviour. I had not thought about hornet activity away from the hives. Your explanation brought to mind the image of hornets hoovering up drones and other insects first, which may not be obvious to spot. I am a beekeeper in London and we have escaped the hornets so far. I hope next year is a better year for you. Your honey house looks great BTW.

  • @nancyoffenhiser4916
    @nancyoffenhiser4916 Год назад +1

    Richard, I came back to this to make another comment today. I just watched a very interesting video on RUclips on a channel called Japanese natural beekeeping and they're showing sticky boards with pheromone for hives. Also, the young lady with her bare hands not suited up showed that about the only thing that will keep these hornets from getting into a hive is steel mesh or very strong plastic mesh. These hornets are even able to chew through cedar entrance reducers. But I thought that you might enjoy this channel if you haven't seen it already. I think we're going to see a major redesign of the langstroth hive due to this problem within the next 5 years.

    • @richardnoel3141
      @richardnoel3141  Год назад +1

      Hello Nancy, all very interesting. Someone else commented about that on this videos comments and the problem they create but luckily the hornets we have here are different to those in Japan they have the giant Japanese Hornet, Vespa Mandriana ( known in America as “ murder Hornet’s” whereas our hornet is the Vespa Velutina Nigrithorax the traps are quite expensive but it’s worth considering.

  • @toddknecht2106
    @toddknecht2106 Год назад +1

    Hey, great looking honey house! Keep your chin up on those nasty hornets, hopefully you can get them somewhat under control! Best of luck!

  • @izinyosib821
    @izinyosib821 Год назад +1

    I've had some luck with Waspbane traps and tennis rackets. Weren't there some studies in France regarding pheromone traps?

  • @silvanhoney221
    @silvanhoney221 Год назад +1

    Thank you for your video. I bumped into a french video on Asian hornet in 2018 at the first time. It was a two-hour video with the research results and observations 12 years after its arrival to France. I knew immediately that one day, vespa velutina will show up in Germany, too. This year, our association was alarmed that in neighboring region VV was seen last year. I have realised that in the association p ople are not aware of the problem and can't even imagin what impact on beekeeping (and on ecology in general) this vasp could have. I have offered to make a presentation about the VV, and was wondering if I could use parts of your video ?

  • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
    @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog Год назад

    Love that loading dock, love that shop.
    Pretty heavy topic, wow

  • @chrishumphreys9363
    @chrishumphreys9363 Год назад +1

    I feel for you Richard, it must have been hell. Lets hope these two very cold spells we've had this year have helped. Nice to have meet you at the show. All the best for the up coming season.

  • @MrFishone777
    @MrFishone777 Год назад +2

    Is it even possible to catch a hornet and put a tracking device on it to follow it back to the nest? Just wondering

    • @attesmatte
      @attesmatte Год назад

      Researchers have done it with bees, so it should be possible. 🤔 But I'm sure it's very, very expensive and labor intensive.

  • @parkinsonga3092
    @parkinsonga3092 Год назад

    I keep the bee swarms that I catch in my garden so I can monitor them. Last year was a nightmare and I had seven traps out and physically spent an hour most evenings catching wasps manually. Then the shallows discovered the hives and morning and evening there were at least twenty shallows feasting on the bees leaving and coming back to the hives. There is always something that wants your bees.
    This year I have ordered a nuc from Wales not because I need the bees, but I need to add some new drones to the local gene pool.
    I hope you have a better year this year.

  • @russellkoopman3004
    @russellkoopman3004 Год назад

    Good grief, I didn't know they were that bad. That is rough.
    An IDEA: from Brad at Faith Hill, one of Ian's friends. He does 4 way pallets but faces the entrances inward. Maybe that confined space between the boxes would limit the AH a bit??
    Yes, you are right about getting serious on trapping those bastards. Good luck.

  • @paternostus1
    @paternostus1 Год назад

    Very sobering video. Thanks for sharing. I sincerely hope you recover and 2023 is kind. Best wishes

  • @lynjenkins1562
    @lynjenkins1562 Год назад

    So sorry to hear this Richard.

  • @benjamindejonge3624
    @benjamindejonge3624 Год назад

    We have the same problem in Spain, and how more we do about it the more they come back

  • @peterdebicki4183
    @peterdebicki4183 Год назад +1

    Sorry to hear about your loss. Lessons learnt.

  • @jmeilhan
    @jmeilhan Год назад

    Best of luck for 2023 hope to see you in October .

  • @thebeesqueen333
    @thebeesqueen333 Год назад

    Hugs to you, Richard.

  • @BeesBugsJapan
    @BeesBugsJapan Год назад +3

    Have you tried the front traps we use on the hives in Japan?

    • @izinyosib821
      @izinyosib821 Год назад

      I have tried those with no success. They caught a few, but mainly catch honeybee drones. I did leave the entrance to the upper chamber taped up for a few days, so the bees could get used to finding their way to the entrance, but since drones wander between hives, they still ended up in the upper chamber. Further the model I got came with a pretty wide mesh (5 or 6 mm) and I witnessed some Japanese yellow hornets escape from the upper chamber.
      Best way I found is using a tennis racket smacking them one by one for an hour in the morning and one in the evening, when there is no much bee traffic, but the hornets are there in any case. I do realise not everyone has that much time on their hands though.

  • @Ziggysbees
    @Ziggysbees Год назад

    That's a tough one to take. I'm not sure with Varroa and an Asian hornet problem, that I'd be as composed as you are sir. I hope and wish you the best.

  • @ghazwankhalid
    @ghazwankhalid Год назад

    Here in the Middle East, we also suffer from the oriental hornet. We were able to find several ways to reduce its numbers, the first of which is catching hornet queens when they emerge from hibernation in early spring with special traps (eliminating a queen means eliminating an entire colony); In the summer we try to find hornet colonies and exterminate them at night using diesel; We also use poison with minced meat to eliminate the hornet.

  • @attesmatte
    @attesmatte Год назад

    I'm so so sorry for the loss of all those hives. 😕

  • @dgoodhoney3000
    @dgoodhoney3000 Год назад

    Sirdo, 🥺 The hurdles are so much for you to overcome that I have no choice but to send you some good cosmic vibes to take you through this coming season.
    Thanks for all your ranting. To quiet you "it is what it is' remember this I have done so much for so long that I feel qualified that I can do anything with what I have.
    However, that's just me, stay safe and healthy so I can watch you do beekeeping tomorrow 👋.

  • @johnmoline3955
    @johnmoline3955 Год назад

    Richard,
    I always enjoy your videos, even when the subject matter sucks.
    I'd like to share a photo of something I've concocted down here south of Toulouse to trap Asian Hornets; unfortunately, I've no idea how to include a photo in a comment, nor how to contact you personally. If you'd like to contact me, feel free.
    In a nutshell, all I've done is take a plastic queen excluder and rolled it together, thus creating a tube. I attach the edges with four small wall anchors (cheville) by simply sliding them through the slots where they "self attach." With the excluder securely rolled as a tube, I then place two funnels over each opening of the rolled excluder. An elastic cord is attached to each funnel and is put under stress to hold the funnels in place. (I'd insert the photo here if I knew how. Sorry.)
    The excluder/trap allow bees that are attracted to the bait to easily escape through and worker-size slots. The hornets are not so lucky as they are (as you know too well) too big to exit the slots and are unable to find the small end of the funnel to exit the way they came.
    I bought dozens of used plastic queen excluders on the Bon Coin for a buck apiece. The funnels and elastic cord are relatively cheap. You can hang the traps on the hives or adjacent supports using the cord.
    Question: I've noticed Asian Hornets use their eyes to navigate very precisely. If you try catching then with a butterfly net they almost give you a stare like they want to kill you. Bees, on the other hand, seem to rely much more on something other than sight. (I'd compare hornets to the way a snake will look at you--following your every move--and bees more the way a rabbit would--not directly in the eye.) Has anyone ever tried hanging DVDs or CD with mirror sides in front of hives? Perhaps it would work to irritate and disrupt the hornets ability to hunt bees.
    BTW: If you find the hornets reluctant to enter the trap, slide the rolled queen excluder (12cm) inside a pvc pipe (15cm) and then attach the funnels. This creates a dark space inside the trap while still allowing foraging bees space to exit if they inadvertently end up inside.
    Courage,
    John

  • @emmawood2784
    @emmawood2784 Год назад +1

    Never seen anything like the front of Rhodes hives, so many AH, What results did you get from baiting with meat, I really hope they don’t come here because small apiaries like mine would just be wiped out. Chin up

  • @tjones2ful
    @tjones2ful Год назад

    Have you tried the under hive entrances?

  • @melvinyoder1954
    @melvinyoder1954 Год назад

    Wow. That is insane. Feel so bad for you guys

  • @mediteranskopcelarenje-tar1205

    Sad,,,, we have not A. hornets in Croatia,,,, so far.... So we have to start thinking about it. The only suggestion wich popup in my mind now, is to move hives in summer time somewhere where is no AH

  • @chrisbarlow5968
    @chrisbarlow5968 6 месяцев назад

    24 reported sightings already in the UK this year per NBU as at 04/06/24. Reported by Sky news on the 4/6/24 that we also have an overwintered queen for the first time, confirmed through genetic testing. I would be interested to see how you faired with the jadeprobe hornet trap and is it any good and whether you have managed to ID any more stratergies for dealing with the hornets. There is a similar product by ANEL called the Asian Hornet Cone Trap, which is similar but much cheaper and produced in Greece but is available in the UK. Have you seen or tried this product? I suspect that the hornets once they arrive en mass will make varroa look like the beekeepers best friend in comparison.

    • @richardnoel3141
      @richardnoel3141  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Chris, still the press continues to sensationalise the AH that most likely, will become a permanent presence in the uk but still at the moment it is not a permanent feature. Yes there is and will be a few overwintered queens that have hibernated in the uk ( last winter obviously being very mild) but the terrible start to the season has had similar effect here and drastically reduced the numbers of founding queens that havé the energy and resources to produce a strong enough primary nest .
      There has been a flurry of supposed new inventive traps released over the winter which are all very Interesting but nothing that will replace the workload in capturing founding spring queens recently emerged from hibernation.
      This year there is still a number of founding queens still working on their own to start nests . Shows just how bad the weather has been. The uk should continue to be working hard to keep trapping those founding queens. As I said previously l, this is the kind of weather that will help in the control at this point.
      I still say that apart from removing bycatch the traps haven’t really improved in the last three years. It’s only when you have large numbers that the Jabeprode and bigger traps seem to do a better job because by then it’s a mopping up operation.

    • @chrisbarlow5968
      @chrisbarlow5968 6 месяцев назад

      @@richardnoel3141 thats interesting. thanks for the response. I think over hear in the uk we are certainly going to have to start planning stratergies and implimentings tactics on an individual basic as beekeepers but as teams which I suspect will have as much better impact.

  • @joecreaser8885
    @joecreaser8885 Год назад

    I hope with the cold start to this year and the fact they ate loads of wasps end of last season they might struggle to get going this year.

  • @honeyandthecoop803
    @honeyandthecoop803 Год назад

    I'm sorry to see you going through such a happy time with building your beautiful honey house and then dealing with this. Best of luck in the future!

  • @GEEZBEEZ
    @GEEZBEEZ Год назад

    I hear you. I hope research can provide some solutions soon. Honey prices are better in the USA where I live but production seems to be getting harder. Keeping adulterated honey out of markets needs to increase and continue. I wish good on you for this new year. Take care.

  • @badassbees3680
    @badassbees3680 Год назад

    Kamon needs to watch this and maybe he'll get it finally ..they say in US their only in Washington. Bs. I've stood at open feeder and watched em clip bees head off in Nano second and fly off with what was left like a humming bird sound literally when fly over ..they got 28 of mine 3 winters ago.

  • @bee_folk
    @bee_folk Год назад

    Can’t even imagine what that must be like, even watching your Asian hornet vids last year. Not looking good for the Uk

  • @MinnesotaBeekeeper
    @MinnesotaBeekeeper Год назад

    Put some meat in the traps instead on honey? How do the Japanese beekeepers deal with the hornets?
    Great pallets!

  • @lagrangebees
    @lagrangebees Год назад +1

    I REALLY hope those traps prove effective. I can't imagine how bad it must feel to see your bees being eaten and theres nothing you can do >.

    • @lasource811
      @lasource811 Год назад

      Man they should make it legal tp bait some fish with dog flea powder. Then we would be getting somewhere.

  • @christopherhindle1174
    @christopherhindle1174 Год назад

    I thought I had an Asian Hornet problem here in Provence, but it pales into insignificance when I see what you had to cope with! Personally I have had absolutely zero success with the 'lobster pot' style of trap, and have the impression that catching a few hornets and touching with cat flea spray before releasing, seems to reduce the hornet numbers for a few weeks, but probably easier for a hobby beekeeper than a professional with hundreds of colonies! Have you tried one of the 'electric harp' designs? Anyway, good luck for this season.

  • @BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer
    @BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer Год назад

    Horrific. Hope the traps work well.

  • @SuperMarketgarden
    @SuperMarketgarden Год назад

    Does swatting hornets discourage other hornets from coming to the hives? I don't know how hornets think, but "big mean animal guard hive swat us dead" would be a fairly simple message to digest.

    • @SuperMarketgarden
      @SuperMarketgarden Год назад

      This isn't meant as a suggestion. You've obviously been swatting like hell and you can't be there all the time. It's more an inquiry into hornet psychology and their perception of "risk versus reward."

  • @cowdudy
    @cowdudy Год назад

    Can you poison them to knock them back to a tolerable level? I’m not sure of the laws in France but that seems like the only alternative in the short term.

  • @petejesper
    @petejesper Год назад

    Hi Richard,
    I’m in the uk and use the same floors as you but adapted for National hives. I always thought the green entrance was to prevent Asian Hornets entering the hive but in the video I saw some squeeze under and enter. Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t that the intention of the green entrance?
    Ps. You probably won’t remember but I introduced myself at The Beekeeping Show.

  • @nkapiariesjeffbeezos796
    @nkapiariesjeffbeezos796 Год назад

    That sucks, what a nightmare

  • @danbrewer
    @danbrewer Год назад

    As if you don’t have enough to do in the spring now you have to go on the hunt 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @aidanquick3151
    @aidanquick3151 Год назад

    Does Varroa affect the Asian Hornet?

    • @richardnoel3141
      @richardnoel3141  Год назад +1

      As far as we know it dosent. They are actually good at grooming themselves. So it seems.

  • @divecamera1972
    @divecamera1972 Год назад

    A tray of honey will surely attract bees aswell into the trap🫣

    • @richardnoel3141
      @richardnoel3141  Год назад +1

      No when your trapping spring queens, and you use the that are non by catch they can come and go, the hornets cannot get out, the bees can but they dont have actual access to the honey, so long story short they create activity in the trap, but dont get caught in the trap.so their presence also attracts hornets!! job done.

  • @martynjohnson5380
    @martynjohnson5380 Год назад

    Hi Richard, I have a plan if we get asian hornets in West Midlands I am going to flame them across hive entrances. I realise I will kill some bees also but hopefully not as many as the hornets would.
    Regards Martyn.

  • @zongshunliang9928
    @zongshunliang9928 Год назад

    they is coming back

  • @nancynolton6079
    @nancynolton6079 Год назад

    Sounds like the whole country needs to get traps to gain some order of control of the hornets. Sorry to here of this trouble.

  • @jesshowe4591
    @jesshowe4591 Год назад

    Respect 🐝

  • @Downthend
    @Downthend Год назад

    Firstly I’m no expert and am fortunate to not have to face that horrendous hornet situation. I have watched RUclips videos on people showing bait traps where meat etc is given to wasps to return it to the nest. Would hornets take meat? Assume to target there nest at peak brood time of year. Similar to the ant gel where they take it back to the nest.

    • @Downthend
      @Downthend Год назад

      It wasn’t meat it was liquid not attractive bees and laced with a tiny amount of boric acid which apparently caused hornets colony collapse. The legality of its use may be in question though.

  • @nancyoffenhiser4916
    @nancyoffenhiser4916 Год назад

    And we thought Africanized Bees were bad in the USA?
    I'm so sorry Richard.

  • @Bri_bees
    @Bri_bees Год назад

    Do skunks eat them , it might be worth breeding some. It is easier to defend the hivesaganst skunks than hornet.s

  • @rjbrown6942
    @rjbrown6942 Год назад

    Every time I see them hornets I want to kill it. It's crazy when you break one of them hornet nest open there's 30 queens in it on a medium sized nest.

  • @jl9755
    @jl9755 Год назад +1

    I have a suspicious mind. I don’t think they came to Europe by accident, as I don’t think Varroa will make a boat trip to New Zealand. By the way, Asian Hornet is a business now, the rise of pest control companies is close. I also suffer them, before funding any research, we must check, where they come from, that they have farms that produce larvae for food purposes. Good luck.

  • @beavercreekhoney
    @beavercreekhoney Год назад

    sent you a message on messenger ;)

  • @jtlearn1
    @jtlearn1 Год назад +1

    The misery of sin and the curse have infected all mankind and all our work.
    And to Adam he said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, ‘You shall not eat of it,’ cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life;thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” - Genesis 3:17-19

    • @nancyoffenhiser4916
      @nancyoffenhiser4916 Год назад +1

      I agree wholeheartedly. God Bless You for having the courage to say this on a public forum.

    • @pbest5040
      @pbest5040 Год назад

      Bs

    • @dlblocher
      @dlblocher Год назад

      Not even worth responding to

    • @jtlearn1
      @jtlearn1 Год назад

      @@pbest5040 do you have a better explanation?

  • @MrFishone777
    @MrFishone777 Год назад

    Is it even possible to catch a hornet and put a tracking device on it to follow it back to the nest? Just wondering

  • @MrFishone777
    @MrFishone777 Год назад +1

    Is it even possible to catch a hornet and put a tracking device on it to follow it back to the nest? Just wondering

    • @mbgal7758
      @mbgal7758 Год назад +1

      They’ve done it in the US to catch another species of Asian hornet. Trying to stop them before they get a foothold. It’s not really ideal though lol