lol I haven’t seen a single complain about cameos most of them are the lack of straight vision short runtime which they try to squeeze in a lot and not as they made it seem
I think a lot of people were expecting this movie to be non stop cameos from doctor strange meeting past marvel performers and then he fights Wanda at the end.
I don’t get why they were expecting cameos galore also if it was 3 hours of multiple universes the story wouldn’t be interesting it would be like watching 3 hours of Elvis impersonators after the first 3 it’s the same thing again and again.
@@drbannter they weren’t cameos they were supporting roles and credited. The majority of the time cameos are defined by uncredited appearances or a blink and you miss it one scene or one shot appearance. Howard the Duck in Endgame is a cameo, Stan Lee in all of his cameos and dark Phoenix cast in Deadpool 2 are cameos. Everyone in that part of the film shot for at least a few days worth of work.
I still don't understand why critics keep saying cameos are 'fan service', because when you have big events in the comics somebody important is going to show up.
80% seems only low just because incredible quality and consistency of MCU. Remember if you compare this with infinity saga then it is blow average because average score for infinity saga was 83%
This is going to be again one of those movies where critic's don't know what they are talking about and fans score is going to be probably 96% to 97% Im calling it now.
Marvel doesn't give a fuck about scores, it gives a fuck about box office earnings. Let's see how much it does, not only during opening weekend but throughout its theatrical run. I think that the fanboys will love it, but the casual fans will be lukewarm about it
Stop blaming reviews that aren’t as good as you want on you thinking that people just want another Endgame. The movie has pretty good reviews. If you can’t appreciate that then I don’t know what to tell you.
People are getting bad at going into these movies expecting to see the script they created in thier head,or with friends play out on screen, then being disappointed. All the speculation is fun, but its really just supposed to be that fun.
We really need to talk about how movie culture has ruined the movie experience. The film that was not covered widely is the one that is getting so much praise. NWH is being praised for everything but Tom Holland’s Spider-Man. The Batman did well because it promised exactly what was delivered, and there was no overhype going into it.
@@phillipgray5394 make no mistake Tom holland is not the reason y NWH did well, everyone knows Tobey and Andrew was going to be in it …if holland is this great actor why did unchanted do soo shitty
@@CarolCityCane305 uncharted was a box office success and far from home even thought one of my least favorite Spiderman movies was the highest grossing Spiderman
Just watched it, the plot is easy to understand and not confusing at all. The only 3 things that I wish should improved are the ending about what happened to wanda, some cgi and a lil bit longer because some scenes felt rushed or just too fast
People are saying you supposedly can't bring your kids to go see Doctor Strange 2? Yeah I'll believe it when I see it. At the end of the day this is a Superhero movie from Disney. They'll go dark but never too dark. Not since the Pinocchio days.
Sam Raimi is a horror guy (the Evil Dead films, Darkman, Drag Me To Hell) Honestly if you don't know this and your going in thinking it'll be like his Spider-Man trilogy then you really should have done your homework prior. The body horror description has me quite curious actually.
Every time a marvel movie gets bad reviews or mixed reviews people turn their heads and make it seem like reviews aren’t important, but let it be another studio lol. Oh boy they become so important 😂
The same happened with the Uncharted movie, but I attribute that to the Spider-Man hype train and Holland's devoted fanbase. I've not seen people defend mediocrity with so much passion before.
i would agree... if not for the fact those movies would still be popular and sell well, with many people praising it. so you know, maybe reviews dont mean truth for everyone.
I think and hope there will be an extended version on Disney+. Some scenes were cut off short. Also the horror-element needs more build-up (with more silence so the tension is creeping it's way to your stomach)
I saw it last night and loved it. It has its flaws. Far from perfect. And generally speaking the casual MCU fans will love it as well. I think everyone just hyped it up beyond expectations and now some are just disappointed it didn't deliver how they expected to. But for what it actually is, it's fantastic.
Rotten Tomatoe critics should not be taken serious, nor as a standard. Most are a joke and piggy bck off other critic opinions. Fan ratings are the only one that counts.
Honestly, I don’t really put any importance into reviews or scores but seeing some of the early reactions today most have been similar to The Reel Rejects and they really liked it, it’s not perfect and has some flaws but overall they said it was pretty fun and entertaining. No matter, I’ll find out Thursday night… 😊
While the critic scores is an indication of the movie, but I always look at the audience score, which I admit is a skewed score, since it only counts people that have seen the movie, and therefore more likely to give a favorable score.
@@SuperRamos619 I think they can be informative and interesting but I’ve never let it determine whether something is “good” or “bad”. Only I can decide if I like it or not by seeing it for myself and having my own opinions and thoughts about it. Everyone has to be their own judge.
@@NoLifeGrogu oh definitely. But sometimes it's a difference of letting my excitement continue and watch the movie day 1, or settle for a matinee viewing week's later.
Its probably cause its not the typical popcorn movie, that has been apart of marvel movies. Might be just cause it leans on the horror side, we will have to wait to see of course.
ever since the jc show has comeback with the crew in person and now in the new studio, dare i say this is the best movie talk show since the first iteration of collider movietalk hosted by our favorite good canadian kid w\ schnepp r.i.p. and the schmoes. keep on bringin the filthy!
Robert Burnett is right in this interview because some people won't understand about variants and the multiverse. I will like it but it won't be my top 10 although you can't hate marvel what they do to the movie like the eternals. Everything is perfect
Just saw it and I am so glad I didn't participate in the rumours and speculation / leaks. Only saw the trailers one time, on that regard I think it has surprised me the most since Infinity War. I am so happy it was a Sam Raimi movie first, that happened to be in the MCU. Wish more directors had this stamp on the visuals. It was a blast.
People complain about underwhelming cameo, when they only have themselves to blame for it. Disney didn't tell us to watch all those fan theories videos over the web and somehow believed what we wanted to believe.
@@starklegacy8515 my man thats the percent read the average score. Joker got like 7.3 average rating meaning decent and MoM is sitting at 6.8 average rating so rate that how you will. Not putting you down but people need to learn how to use RT.
Some of the negative reviews are people complaining that it’s more of a Raimi movie than an MCU movie. I swear the MCU has rotted some brains of critics
@@Mikey-em8hs have you checked Twitter then? Some people literally portray the notion that the film is weak because it’s a Raimi film rather than an MCU film
it is a good little movie. the problem is it was overhyped, there are not that many multiverses and not that much madness. we were promised tons of cameos and loads of universes. we got half a dozen cameos and stay mainly in three universes. it is also a VERY Sam Raimi movie and he is not for everyone.
Maybe add some branding or color to the front of those desks? and, as i mentioned yesterday, that top light on john's brow needs correcting. but overall the new set is very promising!
Why make a multiverse movie and not take advantage of the concept and work in some crazy cameos? The fact that this is only 2 hours is ludicrous. Some of the reviews mentioning this movie ignoring or undoing most of what occurred in WandaVision also makes me nervous. I truly hope they do Scarlet Witch justice in this movie
For me the only reason that i think pple are criticizing the movie for , is because it was potrayed to be like an end game level movie, but it wasn't, taking what @emergency awesome said, it was nt that long to fit in so many massive scenes, so it felt dissapointing
If you like the Harry Potter films, Lord of the Rings, Sam Raimi's Spider-man trilogy, Evil Dead and Drag Me To Hell, and love Danny Elfman's work, you will absolutely love Doctor Strange 2!!!
I would say that movie feels smaller in scale than you would expect. It feels just like another episode and not a game changer. It's more Wanda vs Dr.Strange movie rather then big multiverse-multistory phase 4 movie. Cameos were cool, wish we'd seen more. Movie like this is opportunity to go bonkers crazy. Manage your expectations. It's fun and solid movie, just not as big as you would think. And yes, there are horror elements that might be too much for small children. Honestly, the first movie is one of my MCU favorites, and I liked it better then sequel.
The actual audience score will be miles higher than the critics though. Critics who have to see the movie always have different taste than actual fans who want to see the movie
John, I watched your review livestream, I had a thought on the lukewarm reviews that a few seconds later, I could see the light bulb in your head come on, thinking the same... that people have gotten used to a certain "feel" with Marvel movies, a lot of action/adventure, and if death occurs, it is not graphic... So overall, lighthearted... this movie may start that way, but then takes a left turn and gets, well, Sam Raimii'd ... I am seeing it in a couple days (in 3D) and look forward to the change.
Those that were expecting much more are why you shouldn't believe every supposed leak and rumour. Just watch the movie and let it wash over you. Stop watching every single trailer, TV spot and teasers.
That's the thing, I didn't watch it for cameos and leaks. I'm not coming from a Marvel fandom position so I can watch movies like this with an objective lens. The film just simply wasn't good. It's is more forgivable when you're a fan because you'll look for all the redeemable things just to soften its reception and defend it. The rest of us will just watch it and be like 'man, that was pretty bad😬" It's a shame because Dr Strange as a character is amazing, but he deserved better to his sequel than this. Unfortunately this film was a hot mess.
The direct follow-up to a critically acclaimed MCU debut, low to mid 80s on RT and mid to high 60s on MC, and a positive review from David Erlich. This is the next Guardians 2.
I feel definitely when I watch this film day after tomorrow we will see Marvel's What If...? scenarios coming into play for character moments for sure. They kind of teased it in one of the clips already that was released by IGN etc., as Strange and Chavez traveling throughout the multiverse passing through different worlds similar to Ultron fighting Uatu The Watcher as he breaks through multiple dimensions.
Hi, guys… just finished Doctor Strange 2… its AWESOME!! I LOVE IT ALOT! It really is a Sam Raimi movie, and I enjoy it.. and it is A Doctor Strange movie, like its straight from the comics the way I imagined it when I was a kid. Visually stunning… 10/10 for me.
@@geoffreylane5606 well according to most of marvel fans all marvel movies are 10/10, so you can't fight with them but there are some good marvel fans who say's if the movie is bad then it's bad but there are only few like me.
I'm leaning into the horror aspects of the movie being prominent throughout, we signed up for a classic Sam Raimi movie so we should expect a classic Sam Raimi movie
Joker proved that there needs to be more rated R comic book films. Venom is a great example of studios screwing up an excellent opportunity. The have one of the best actors working today in Tom Hardy and they just wasted his talent. What a shame.
I (37/f) was underwhelmed by this. Too much CGI, even if it was well done... Nothing in the story surprised me or moved me. Not even Wanda's tears. I don't know how I feel about this movie at all...
MCU fans: Complain MCU is too formulaic, all the same and no one dies. Marvel: Delivers something different. MCU fans: Complain MCU movie isn't like all the rest and people die.
Looking forward to seeing what they gave us either way, but if it lets me down, at least I had Everything Everywhere All at Once as a great multiverse film this year
Anyone who is disappointed by this movie is the product of their own doing. They made up what they wanted to see in their head and they didn’t get it. That’s not marvel’s fault that’s your own.
John !! Is it true that they fired Pedro Pascal for mandalorian 4 and hired Karl Urban to a recast ?? Please need a confirmation about this. Need to be a topic on the show. Oh yea watch you guys every day your show makes my day .
Can I make a suggestion, no camera angles (slight shifts). The microphones cover your mouths. It’s a podcast, I get it, but THIS is the RUclips portion. Maybe nix the wide angle(?)
Just saw it ! My fave Raimi to date !! I'd also add that we've probably been lied to to help guard one secret like we've never been lied to yet. In my opinion, this makes previous lies look like child's play.
Yikes, I guess we should all lower our expectations. Who woulda thought the best Multiverse movie of 2022 would be an independent Michelle Yeoh movie?? hahaha..
I mean, come on. A place called the Multiverse or several places called the multiverse should be a scary place to be because you can't know what you're gonna get or encounter with, and Marvel decided to hire a director that has his roots in horror films so personally (I'm someone who hasn't seen the movie yet) it's not surprising and it shouldn't be a bad thing either because I'm pretty sure that at the end of the day The Multiverse Of Madness is a marvel movie that still possesses the main MCU DNA
The critics is one thing, but the audience is another. Going to see this in IMAX 3D doing a spoiler review then we can talk LOL but still excited 😁🙏💙🔥👊
i don't understand why reviews are such a big thing and how reviews can dictate whether or not YOU'RE going like a movie. Every human has their own view of things. I hate DC films but there's literally thousands who love them. Its stupid to rely on reviews, see the shit yourself and have an opinion of your own
A horror movie? and Rob loved the first 20 minutes? yes, yes, yes....I'm absolutely on board. I usually tend to like stuff that both Rob and John have...
Another marvel movie that again will suffer from overhype, it’ll make bank.. but, this won’t do NWH numbers. Especially if it’s true it’s going to drop on Disney plus in 45 days
@@phillipgray5394 thank u finally someone said it from all i've seen it should be called Scarlett Witch MoM not Doctor Strange lol no hate to Wanda i like her but cmon
@@phillipgray5394 I disagree but base of the trailers wat did they expect but I would not call it scarlet witch movie though everyone played a part I think most of these fools expect certain cameos and did not get it base on rumors.
Anybody seen the Doctor Strange has mixed reviews is delusional as hell The reviews have been overwhelmedly positive it’s sitting at 80 something percent on rotten tomatoes the same as infinity war which had to 85% and the Batman which had to 85% so if you say Doctor Strange was mix do you have to say that those movies mix two
But thats not what rotten tomatoes counts… a movie could be meh but the critic may still give it a red tomato like a 7/10… the reviews are mixed if you read them
@@nothisispatrick5123 If the reviews are mixed then the score should've been lower. The fact that it has over 100+ critic reviews and still at 80% doesn't equal to mixed bag whatsoever.
I loved the first Dr Strange John, and most of the Marvel movies, but this was a mess, and really liked the raimi horror, and the cameos, but the story was a mess, made no sense to me, i was really disappointed! But i hope people liked it, it wasn’t for me
@@chrisarocho5083 He does sometimes, but at the end of the day, he's got more than himself to pay, so he's gotta get that extra cash where he can for the crew 🤷🏿♂🤷🏿♂
It’s interesting reading the reviews. What surprised me is that learned from the reviews that the movie is only 126 mins long. I could have sworn that there had been discussion on the show about the movie being one of the longest MCU movies made. Regardless, the general perception is that it’s a good, not great movie, with a scene stealing performance from Olsen. And the film is surprisingly small and simply plotted but very Raimi overall.
I think Ray might be winning that Hot Toy :) More people are going to the movies, there's a lot of buzz going into this from fans of the comics, and I think that'll translate to repeat views from them to make up for the lack of repeat views from others.
Wanda carried the s**t outta this movie imo. Olsens acting as her is getting better every time she plays her. She was the highlight for sure and her presence on screen in this was great.
Movie is really good and only thing i felt as shortcoming they haven’t explored multiverse in wider spectrum and we guys were teased with multiple no of cameos may be that’s kind of disappointed other than that it’s kept me entertaining for the two hours That’s all u wanted end of the day I’m pretty sure u guys gonna love the movie I don’t know is the movie gonna make billion dollar or not ?
They probably hated it because of how the movie treated Wanda. They didn't like that she killed a bunch of people in this movie. It's like Game of thrones all over again. People were angry because Danaerys slaughtered innocents. Wanda's fans are reeling.
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The fact that people are legitimately saying, the film is bad just because there aren't as many cameos as they wanted, is just ludicrous to me
Well it’s good I know now
Was very much expecting dead pool to show up but now doubting he will
I know right. Cameos isn’t what makes a movie good or bad.
Fake people movies wasn't just about cameos the rumours and leaks gave them that mind set and it seems like a trend for marvel movies now.
It's just the casuals ruining these movies
lol I haven’t seen a single complain about cameos most of them are the lack of straight vision short runtime which they try to squeeze in a lot and not as they made it seem
I think a lot of people were expecting this movie to be non stop cameos from doctor strange meeting past marvel performers and then he fights Wanda at the end.
Yeah basically
I don’t get why they were expecting cameos galore also if it was 3 hours of multiple universes the story wouldn’t be interesting it would be like watching 3 hours of Elvis impersonators after the first 3 it’s the same thing again and again.
@@c17sam90 all the cameos died in a minute very disappointing
@@drbannter they weren’t cameos they were supporting roles and credited. The majority of the time cameos are defined by uncredited appearances or a blink and you miss it one scene or one shot appearance. Howard the Duck in Endgame is a cameo, Stan Lee in all of his cameos and dark Phoenix cast in Deadpool 2 are cameos. Everyone in that part of the film shot for at least a few days worth of work.
I still don't understand why critics keep saying cameos are 'fan service', because when you have big events in the comics somebody important is going to show up.
It’s fan service in the comics, it’s fan service in the movies
The original director left this movie which is code for he wanted to make a real movie.
It’s sounding like peoples expectations were higher than it should’ve been. As well as a disjointed narrative either way I’m still pumped to see this
80% seems only low just because incredible quality and consistency of MCU. Remember if you compare this with infinity saga then it is blow average because average score for infinity saga was 83%
@@phillipgray5394 the Batman and no way home are some of best comic book movies in years. I was talking more in general.
@@phillipgray5394 CM had much lower audience score that fan base was divided
Audience score MOM is 88%
This is going to be again one of those movies where critic's don't know what they are talking about and fans score is going to be probably 96% to 97% Im calling it now.
Marvel doesn't give a fuck about scores, it gives a fuck about box office earnings. Let's see how much it does, not only during opening weekend but throughout its theatrical run. I think that the fanboys will love it, but the casual fans will be lukewarm about it
It's just a thing of people expecting an endgame every time now... we can't just have a good MCU movie anymore according to fans
Stop blaming reviews that aren’t as good as you want on you thinking that people just want another Endgame. The movie has pretty good reviews. If you can’t appreciate that then I don’t know what to tell you.
Skip the AD here 👉 6:30
Thanks used it perfectly
Thank you.
People are getting bad at going into these movies expecting to see the script they created in thier head,or with friends play out on screen, then being disappointed. All the speculation is fun, but its really just supposed to be that fun.
Like just do fanfiction if it's that important for a movie to complete a chicklist. In fanfiction, anything is possible.
We really need to talk about how movie culture has ruined the movie experience. The film that was not covered widely is the one that is getting so much praise. NWH is being praised for everything but Tom Holland’s Spider-Man. The Batman did well because it promised exactly what was delivered, and there was no overhype going into it.
@@phillipgray5394 make no mistake Tom holland is not the reason y NWH did well, everyone knows Tobey and Andrew was going to be in it …if holland is this great actor why did unchanted do soo shitty
@@CarolCityCane305 uncharted was a box office success and far from home even thought one of my least favorite Spiderman movies was the highest grossing Spiderman
@@ericericson5633 You okay man? Cause you’re talking like you’re on something..
Just watched it, the plot is easy to understand and not confusing at all. The only 3 things that I wish should improved are the ending about what happened to wanda, some cgi and a lil bit longer because some scenes felt rushed or just too fast
Did John have his early screening privileges revoked after he leaked those pictures from Spider-Man: No Way Home?
It seems so.... But who knows!
I’m about 90% sure the score is due to this being a departure of the previous mcu films
People are saying you supposedly can't bring your kids to go see Doctor Strange 2? Yeah I'll believe it when I see it. At the end of the day this is a Superhero movie from Disney. They'll go dark but never too dark. Not since the Pinocchio days.
Tbf, Disney also once owned Miramax. Just saying...
Sam Raimi is a horror guy (the Evil Dead films, Darkman, Drag Me To Hell)
Honestly if you don't know this and your going in thinking it'll be like his Spider-Man trilogy then you really should have done your homework prior.
The body horror description has me quite curious actually.
The fact that I've heard the second half is more evil dead raimi than spiderman raimi does excite me.
@@metallicnole4514 Yeah, a love letter to bonkers Evil Dead 2. That excites me too and puzzles me how it'll mesh together seamlessly
Every time a marvel movie gets bad reviews or mixed reviews people turn their heads and make it seem like reviews aren’t important, but let it be another studio lol. Oh boy they become so important 😂
Yeah i agree wholeheartedly, shit odd as hell.
The same happened with the Uncharted movie, but I attribute that to the Spider-Man hype train and Holland's devoted fanbase. I've not seen people defend mediocrity with so much passion before.
i would agree... if not for the fact those movies would still be popular and sell well, with many people praising it. so you know, maybe reviews dont mean truth for everyone.
80% isnt bad or even mixed. 50% would be mixed
@@MegaDudeman21 it’s not, but they’re saying it’s mixed, but if it’s not 90% or higher for marvel they take it’s as a loss and it’s under 80 now
I think and hope there will be an extended version on Disney+.
Some scenes were cut off short.
Also the horror-element needs more build-up (with more silence so the tension is creeping it's way to your stomach)
I saw it last night and loved it. It has its flaws. Far from perfect. And generally speaking the casual MCU fans will love it as well. I think everyone just hyped it up beyond expectations and now some are just disappointed it didn't deliver how they expected to. But for what it actually is, it's fantastic.
Lol i see what you did there at the end ;)
The new studio setup is weirding me out slightly… it looks like a football commentary box 😂
Rotten Tomatoe critics should not be taken serious, nor as a standard. Most are a joke and piggy bck off other critic opinions. Fan ratings are the only one that counts.
Honestly, I don’t really put any importance into reviews or scores but seeing some of the early reactions today most have been similar to The Reel Rejects and they really liked it, it’s not perfect and has some flaws but overall they said it was pretty fun and entertaining. No matter, I’ll find out Thursday night… 😊
While the critic scores is an indication of the movie, but I always look at the audience score, which I admit is a skewed score, since it only counts people that have seen the movie, and therefore more likely to give a favorable score.
@@SuperRamos619 I think they can be informative and interesting but I’ve never let it determine whether something is “good” or “bad”. Only I can decide if I like it or not by seeing it for myself and having my own opinions and thoughts about it. Everyone has to be their own judge.
@@NoLifeGrogu oh definitely. But sometimes it's a difference of letting my excitement continue and watch the movie day 1, or settle for a matinee viewing week's later.
Deadpool got a low 80s 🍅 score.. and it was awesome.. saw it in the theater 3 times 👍👍
Its probably cause its not the typical popcorn movie, that has been apart of marvel movies. Might be just cause it leans on the horror side, we will have to wait to see of course.
The MCU formula sticks with people for a reason
If all marvel movies have the same formula then there is no growth people can't accept change copy and paste is not being creative.
Love the new studio and the crew and all the content
I just wish their mics didn’t block their face
ever since the jc show has comeback with the crew in person and now in the new studio, dare i say this is the best movie talk show since the first iteration of collider movietalk hosted by our favorite good canadian kid w\ schnepp r.i.p. and the schmoes. keep on bringin the filthy!
I never need to hear Rob's love making voice ever again
Yea I can do without hearing that as well
*Alleged* love making voice
The new studio looks amazing!!!
Just watched it. Great movie IMO. One advice though: lower your expectations when it comes to the cameos.
@@capybara7962 True script was bad
Robert Burnett is right in this interview because some people won't understand about variants and the multiverse. I will like it but it won't be my top 10 although you can't hate marvel what they do to the movie like the eternals. Everything is perfect
Just saw it and I am so glad I didn't participate in the rumours and speculation / leaks. Only saw the trailers one time, on that regard I think it has surprised me the most since Infinity War. I am so happy it was a Sam Raimi movie first, that happened to be in the MCU. Wish more directors had this stamp on the visuals. It was a blast.
The movie is plain and simple about happiness and what you are willing to do for happiness.
People complain about underwhelming cameo, when they only have themselves to blame for it. Disney didn't tell us to watch all those fan theories videos over the web and somehow believed what we wanted to believe.
Excited to see it. Looking forward to a different kind of Marvel Movie. Change and Variety is a good thing 👍
I hopefully agree.
Let's not forget Joker has a RT aggregate 60-70% score.
@@j04370859 wdym? Joker isn't critically acclaimed actually critically detested. It resonated well with audiences though and box office
@@hassankhan7616 that’s not true… yet.
@@hassankhan7616 Joker got 64%.
@@starklegacy8515 my man thats the percent read the average score. Joker got like 7.3 average rating meaning decent and MoM is sitting at 6.8 average rating so rate that how you will. Not putting you down but people need to learn how to use RT.
@@j04370859 Fair enough.
Some of the negative reviews are people complaining that it’s more of a Raimi movie than an MCU movie. I swear the MCU has rotted some brains of critics
@@barry2349 I’m sure there are complaints like that, but a lot of the ones I saw before were people who wanted the typical MCU style of filmmaking.
None of the negative reviews I’ve seen have criticized that it’s more Raimi than MCU. It’s mainly about the script and how it’s kind of rushed.
Learn to repsect others who disagree with u. Become better.
@@Mikey-em8hs have you checked Twitter then? Some people literally portray the notion that the film is weak because it’s a Raimi film rather than an MCU film
@@Mikey-em8hs none? I just saw a handful
it is a good little movie. the problem is it was overhyped, there are not that many multiverses and not that much madness. we were promised tons of cameos and loads of universes. we got half a dozen cameos and stay mainly in three universes. it is also a VERY Sam Raimi movie and he is not for everyone.
Maybe add some branding or color to the front of those desks? and, as i mentioned yesterday, that top light on john's brow needs correcting. but overall the new set is very promising!
Some 6th-scale hot toys in front of those boring desks indeed...
Why make a multiverse movie and not take advantage of the concept and work in some crazy cameos? The fact that this is only 2 hours is ludicrous. Some of the reviews mentioning this movie ignoring or undoing most of what occurred in WandaVision also makes me nervous. I truly hope they do Scarlet Witch justice in this movie
RT is now 79% and dropping..............
For me the only reason that i think pple are criticizing the movie for , is because it was potrayed to be like an end game level movie, but it wasn't, taking what @emergency awesome said, it was nt that long to fit in so many massive scenes, so it felt dissapointing
If you like the Harry Potter films, Lord of the Rings, Sam Raimi's Spider-man trilogy, Evil Dead and Drag Me To Hell, and love Danny Elfman's work, you will absolutely love Doctor Strange 2!!!
I would say that movie feels smaller in scale than you would expect. It feels just like another episode and not a game changer. It's more Wanda vs Dr.Strange movie rather then big multiverse-multistory phase 4 movie.
Cameos were cool, wish we'd seen more. Movie like this is opportunity to go bonkers crazy.
Manage your expectations. It's fun and solid movie, just not as big as you would think. And yes, there are horror elements that might be too much for small children.
Honestly, the first movie is one of my MCU favorites, and I liked it better then sequel.
The actual audience score will be miles higher than the critics though. Critics who have to see the movie always have different taste than actual fans who want to see the movie
Sam Rami is one of those filmmakers that you always have to preface their films with, "look, this is an [insert name] film." Lol.
I feel like the cameo rumors Def raised everyone's expectations including me, although it's not what most expected it's still looks like a cool movie.
John, I watched your review livestream, I had a thought on the lukewarm reviews that a few seconds later, I could see the light bulb in your head come on, thinking the same... that people have gotten used to a certain "feel" with Marvel movies, a lot of action/adventure, and if death occurs, it is not graphic... So overall, lighthearted... this movie may start that way, but then takes a left turn and gets, well, Sam Raimii'd ... I am seeing it in a couple days (in 3D) and look forward to the change.
Those that were expecting much more are why you shouldn't believe every supposed leak and rumour.
Just watch the movie and let it wash over you.
Stop watching every single trailer, TV spot and teasers.
I don’t watch trailers after the first or click on spoilers/Easter eggs. Quit doing that around Black Panther and am super glad I made that decision.
That's the thing, I didn't watch it for cameos and leaks. I'm not coming from a Marvel fandom position so I can watch movies like this with an objective lens. The film just simply wasn't good. It's is more forgivable when you're a fan because you'll look for all the redeemable things just to soften its reception and defend it. The rest of us will just watch it and be like 'man, that was pretty bad😬" It's a shame because Dr Strange as a character is amazing, but he deserved better to his sequel than this. Unfortunately this film was a hot mess.
Actually glad there arent that many cameos
I thought this movie would just include a bunch of characters just for fanservice
Well they cut about 20 minutes of the film who knows what that 20 minutes could have been and that was the studio heads that wanted the movie shorten
Marvel aren't scared of 2 and a half hour or so movies. I would suspect the cuts, whether good or bad, we're for a different reason.
The direct follow-up to a critically acclaimed MCU debut, low to mid 80s on RT and mid to high 60s on MC, and a positive review from David Erlich.
This is the next Guardians 2.
Considering that Guardians 2 is my favorite MCU movie: I sure hope so.
I didn't like Gaurdians of the Galaxy 2, but I am very excited for Multiverse of Madness
Guardians 2 was awesome tf you talking about?
I feel definitely when I watch this film day after tomorrow we will see Marvel's What If...? scenarios coming into play for character moments for sure. They kind of teased it in one of the clips already that was released by IGN etc., as Strange and Chavez traveling throughout the multiverse passing through different worlds similar to Ultron fighting Uatu The Watcher as he breaks through multiple dimensions.
No.
Hi, guys… just finished Doctor Strange 2… its AWESOME!! I LOVE IT ALOT!
It really is a Sam Raimi movie, and I enjoy it.. and it is A Doctor Strange movie, like its straight from the comics the way I imagined it when I was a kid. Visually stunning… 10/10 for me.
@@capybara7962 trying to be spoiler free here .
@@geoffreylane5606 Stop hating.
@@geoffreylane5606 oh did I say 10/10 for everybody?
@@geoffreylane5606 movie is subjective dude.. chill… i love the movie. I dont care what you think. 🤪
@@geoffreylane5606 well according to most of marvel fans all marvel movies are 10/10, so you can't fight with them but there are some good marvel fans who say's if the movie is bad then it's bad but there are only few like me.
I'm leaning into the horror aspects of the movie being prominent throughout, we signed up for a classic Sam Raimi movie so we should expect a classic Sam Raimi movie
Joker proved that there needs to be more rated R comic book films. Venom is a great example of studios screwing up an excellent opportunity. The have one of the best actors working today in Tom Hardy and they just wasted his talent. What a shame.
I (37/f) was underwhelmed by this. Too much CGI, even if it was well done... Nothing in the story surprised me or moved me. Not even Wanda's tears. I don't know how I feel about this movie at all...
MCU fans: Complain MCU is too formulaic, all the same and no one dies.
Marvel: Delivers something different.
MCU fans: Complain MCU movie isn't like all the rest and people die.
Okay it seems like you’re addressing two different groups of people and not one group of people with two conflicting views
Looking forward to seeing what they gave us either way, but if it lets me down, at least I had Everything Everywhere All at Once as a great multiverse film this year
I like they don't shy away from killing off characters because of the multiverse.
There will be no consequences to anything now that the multiverse has been introduced. Even if characters die, they can now come back.
Indeed. The toolbox has been opened, so we can expect anything going on forward.....
@@capybara7962 So what?
@@capybara7962 mcu isn't 616.
Anyone who is disappointed by this movie is the product of their own doing. They made up what they wanted to see in their head and they didn’t get it. That’s not marvel’s fault that’s your own.
You are right
@@akashpadhi5977 thanks
Rob’s love making…”oh yeah”…omg😂🤣🤣
Eternals was good. It has a rewatchable factor. People who are not Marvel comic fans will get lost in Dr. Strange.
I really enjoyed it myself. I waited for it to come to Disney+ so my expectations were pretty low. I was pleasantly surprised.
Salty Kool-Aid is now a phrase I will be using
Half backed ideas is what made Eternals not work for me
John !! Is it true that they fired Pedro Pascal for mandalorian 4 and hired Karl Urban to a recast ?? Please need a confirmation about this. Need to be a topic on the show. Oh yea watch you guys every day your show makes my day .
I doubt they fired him, but he may have left
Uh...no man, Pedro hasn't left nor has he been fired lol. Pretty sure those are just rumors.
Its all about managing expectations... The speculations did turn into expectations the hype was so high
it's at 79% now ...
Can I make a suggestion, no camera angles (slight shifts). The microphones cover your mouths. It’s a podcast, I get it, but THIS is the RUclips portion. Maybe nix the wide angle(?)
Crazy to think Scott Derrickson wanted to go even more into the horror side and left because MCU wouldn't let him.
nothing horror about this...
@@anthonyjones3932 exactly thank you
Live in Asia and just finished watching DrS 2. While i loved it, audiences will be divided.
ScreenX version really was fun. Have to watch this in 3D also. Maybe even in MX4D. This movie has so many layers......
Love how every YT'er is saying completely different things.
Tomorrow in Puerto Rico is the release date, so exited !!
Just saw it ! My fave Raimi to date !! I'd also add that we've probably been lied to to help guard one secret like we've never been lied to yet. In my opinion, this makes previous lies look like child's play.
Yikes, I guess we should all lower our expectations. Who woulda thought the best Multiverse movie of 2022 would be an independent Michelle Yeoh movie?? hahaha..
That movie is gonna be so much better then doctor strange
@@edriesgardezi2563 its already out. Its great
“Yikes?”
Just watch it yourself make your own decision
@@deelewis8061 I saw it too lol I just worded bad but awesome movie
Even the fresh reviews are quite negative. It’s not sounding great. Poor CGI and script 😬
I mean, come on. A place called the Multiverse or several places called the multiverse should be a scary place to be because you can't know what you're gonna get or encounter with, and Marvel decided to hire a director that has his roots in horror films so personally (I'm someone who hasn't seen the movie yet) it's not surprising and it shouldn't be a bad thing either because I'm pretty sure that at the end of the day The Multiverse Of Madness is a marvel movie that still possesses the main MCU DNA
You know what's surprising is that I have read that the first 20 minutes are the worst part of the movie in several reviews.
The critics is one thing, but the audience is another. Going to see this in IMAX 3D doing a spoiler review then we can talk LOL but still excited 😁🙏💙🔥👊
i don't understand why reviews are such a big thing and how reviews can dictate whether or not YOU'RE going like a movie. Every human has their own view of things. I hate DC films but there's literally thousands who love them. Its stupid to rely on reviews, see the shit yourself and have an opinion of your own
I don’t care what anyone says at this point. I have my tickets for 5/5 and if I like it will see it agin on Sunday.
Same here I can’t wait
nothing will stop me from seeing this movie. IDC if it gets a 5%
It was mindblowing!
So what about the "more cameos than nwh and endgame combined"?😶
Don’t remember Marvel ever officially stating that. Stop putting all your eggs into the scooper’s basket.
@@TheGameBelt646 they were saying that because John had predicted this some time ago
A horror movie? and Rob loved the first 20 minutes? yes, yes, yes....I'm absolutely on board. I usually tend to like stuff that both Rob and John have...
Got really horror
I share my taste with john and rob too, that’s why i got out of the cinema very disappointed, i wanted to like this movie so much
Another marvel movie that again will suffer from overhype, it’ll make bank.. but, this won’t do NWH numbers. Especially if it’s true it’s going to drop on Disney plus in 45 days
@@phillipgray5394 actually out of theatre reactions,many are saying the scarlet witch is a scene-stealer and Elizabeth was amazing in the movie
@@phillipgray5394 nope
The fans will have a doctor strange movie when what they want was cameopalooza
@@phillipgray5394 thank u finally someone said it from all i've seen it should be called Scarlett Witch MoM not Doctor Strange lol no hate to Wanda i like her but cmon
@@phillipgray5394 I disagree but base of the trailers wat did they expect but I would not call it scarlet witch movie though everyone played a part I think most of these fools expect certain cameos and did not get it base on rumors.
Anybody seen the Doctor Strange has mixed reviews is delusional as hell The reviews have been overwhelmedly positive it’s sitting at 80 something percent on rotten tomatoes the same as infinity war which had to 85% and the Batman which had to 85% so if you say Doctor Strange was mix do you have to say that those movies mix two
But thats not what rotten tomatoes counts… a movie could be meh but the critic may still give it a red tomato like a 7/10… the reviews are mixed if you read them
The film is very enjoyable. Don’t worry. The only review that matters is your own. It’s a good film!
@@nothisispatrick5123 If the reviews are mixed then the score should've been lower. The fact that it has over 100+ critic reviews and still at 80% doesn't equal to mixed bag whatsoever.
Seeing it at midnight tomorrow
Seeing it in 2 days.
I loved the first Dr Strange John, and most of the Marvel movies, but this was a mess, and really liked the raimi horror, and the cameos, but the story was a mess, made no sense to me, i was really disappointed! But i hope people liked it, it wasn’t for me
Tarantino's The Hateful Eight has 74% on Rotten Tomatoes. Lmao.
Disgraceful 😂
people set their expectations way too high
I pay for premium so I don’t see ads!!! Campea ads are so annoying
They got to get paid 😅, Spotify is worse who put ads on even when you’ve got premium
@@craigt2192 they can shove them at the end instead of the middle
@@chrisarocho5083 He does sometimes, but at the end of the day, he's got more than himself to pay, so he's gotta get that extra cash where he can for the crew 🤷🏿♂🤷🏿♂
@@shimsham8887 I guess I need him to offer some Campea + lol so I don’t watch ads
@@chrisarocho5083 Lmao "Campea +" 🤣🤣
Seeing this first thing tomorrow. So pumped!
It’s now at 79% as long as the overall score is better than Morbius it’ll still be a better movie
😂😂😂
A low bar indeed.
Morbius sweep
Morbius is better 🤓
It’s interesting reading the reviews. What surprised me is that learned from the reviews that the movie is only 126 mins long. I could have sworn that there had been discussion on the show about the movie being one of the longest MCU movies made. Regardless, the general perception is that it’s a good, not great movie, with a scene stealing performance from Olsen. And the film is surprisingly small and simply plotted but very Raimi overall.
I think Ray might be winning that Hot Toy :) More people are going to the movies, there's a lot of buzz going into this from fans of the comics, and I think that'll translate to repeat views from them to make up for the lack of repeat views from others.
Wanda carried the s**t outta this movie imo. Olsens acting as her is getting better every time she plays her. She was the highlight for sure and her presence on screen in this was great.
They were expecting to see every character in the comics
I just saw it. Very boring, if I'm honest. It's also really not a funny movie at all.
Movie is really good and only thing i felt as shortcoming they haven’t explored multiverse in wider spectrum and we guys were teased with multiple no of cameos may be that’s kind of disappointed other than that it’s kept me entertaining for the two hours
That’s all u wanted end of the day
I’m pretty sure u guys gonna love the movie
I don’t know is the movie gonna make billion dollar or not ?
They probably hated it because of how the movie treated Wanda. They didn't like that she killed a bunch of people in this movie. It's like Game of thrones all over again. People were angry because Danaerys slaughtered innocents. Wanda's fans are reeling.
Hehehehehhehe
But most reviewers aren't fans