Why Nanoleaf 4D wasn't what I expected

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @SmartLightDimwit
    @SmartLightDimwit Год назад +22

    1D casts an all white backlight that adjusts brightness according to screen brightness, 2D casts the dominate color along the lightstrip and adjusts brightness according to screen 3D casts multiple colors and scatters them across the lightstrip and 4D makes use of the individually addressable LEDs to cast accurate colors matching the screen along each edge. So the 4D option is the “frosted glass” option that you mentioned you thought you’d find, and is closest to something like the Philips Hue Sync Box (what most people expect from content aware backlighting).

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  Год назад +2

      Thanks for adding that clarification. Yeah I wasn’t ever getting anything close to perfect color matching from the 4D setting no matter what I did

    • @SmartLightDimwit
      @SmartLightDimwit Год назад +4

      ​@@EricWelander I’d recommend reaching out to Support or perusing the Nanoleaf subreddit for some troubleshooting tips. I’ve seen the 4D in action and it is certainly capable of giving the Philips Hue Sync Box a run for it’s money…

    • @captaincracked6173
      @captaincracked6173 11 месяцев назад

      I've been doing research and alot of people are saying nano leave give more of a immersive feeling compared to the Philips hue. I was going to buy the Philips hue but nanoleaf seemed to have better reviews

    • @SmartLightDimwit
      @SmartLightDimwit 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@captaincracked6173 I own the Philips Hue Sync box and believe it is more accurate than the Nanoleaf 4D, however it’s also considerably more expensive.

  • @richardbillam7127
    @richardbillam7127 Год назад +9

    Why review the 4D product and only show the 2D mode? If you turn on 4D mode this gives you all that lovely zone specific colour matching that is reportedly missing. Very engaging for action movies and games. Explosions for instance fill the whole room.
    Not had a problem with controlling the device, just added it to my ‘Turn on/off the TV’ shortcut.
    Good tips on the calibration, like most things, if you invest some time you can get a really good result.

  • @howardzhao4685
    @howardzhao4685 Год назад +10

    Thanks Eric for another great video. I am currently using Philips Hue Sync Box, which does a fantastic job for match colors precisely with no delays. Of course with the price. While Philips uses actually color information from hdmi signal, while Nanoleaf uses analog color from camera, which itself could create problem with all kinds of reflection and interference from surroundings. As you said, it is primary good for background lighting. If one to looking for true light sync, Philips Sync Box will be the way to go.

    • @arolson101
      @arolson101 Год назад +4

      I have a Hue Sync box setup as well, and I agree that it actually delivers on the promises the Nanoleaf makes. What I also did was add ceiling BR30 lights to the entertainment zone for movies, and it really increases the immersion when watching movies. It's pretty amazing to see a green pasture or red lava and the whole room gets painted in those colors

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  Год назад +3

      Thanks for sharing your setups. I guess I really should pay the money and try Sync for real

    • @elig2728
      @elig2728 Год назад +5

      @@arolson101 any workaround for 4K 120hz? For over $500 for a 65in setup, you can’t even game with Philips hue 😅😅…

    • @arolson101
      @arolson101 Год назад

      @@elig2728 they appear to be making an 8k version but that’s all I know

    • @morells09
      @morells09 Год назад

      @@elig2728I actually have my PS5 running through my Hue Sync box because they issued a firmware update to allow it to support 120Hz @ 1440p. Given that incredibly few next gen games can even run at 4K120Hz, the experience is pretty solid and I don’t notice any perceivable difference in resolution compared to when just plugged into my TV.

  • @adammachin
    @adammachin Год назад +19

    Agree 100% lack of Apple TV automation is real let down, even basic turn on tv turn on light strip. Especially when you consider the Apple TV is a home hub.

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  Год назад +2

      Yes exactly! It’s right there at the technical center of your smart home

    • @adammachin
      @adammachin Год назад

      @@EricWelander I’ve bought a HomeKit enabled TV from Amazon and it has this functionality.

  • @adrian2275
    @adrian2275 Год назад +7

    Most light strips have places to cut them every 3 to 9 leds, I actually never saw a led strip which doesn’t have a place to cut it.
    Great video btw!

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  Год назад +1

      Thanks! The Govee M1 2 meter can not be cut and Nanoleaf's Elements light strip has fewer spots to cut it than this one does

  • @steviec5648
    @steviec5648 4 месяца назад

    4D cinematic seems like the light follows the person talking on the tv, like if the person talking is at the left of the tv it matches the colors around them and dims the other area where the people not talking are located

  • @JayLauretta
    @JayLauretta Год назад +4

    Just hooked up my 4D Kit today. It’s definitely not as nice or accurate as the Philips Hue SyncBox, so I’m not sure what to do with it. 2D seems a little basic compared to the SyncBox and 3D seems to be too frantic. I’ll keep messing with it and hopefully get it right, but so far it’s making me wish there was a 2.1-capable SyncBox.

  • @glockenpops
    @glockenpops Месяц назад

    13:26 Problem solved if you have a LG TV. They are compatible with Homekit. And you can totally ask for the nanoleaf to turn on when the TV turns on, and off when the TV turns off.

  • @zoblack751
    @zoblack751 8 месяцев назад

    I love cinematic mode the way the colors move are amazing

  • @kevinturnr
    @kevinturnr Год назад +6

    I’ve never understood nanoleaf. Their products always feel like they’re a couple small features away from being the best smart lights.
    I’m not married to the Hue ecosystem but haven’t felt like anything has surpassed them with overall reliability and user experience.

    • @kevinturnr
      @kevinturnr Год назад

      This was a great video btw!

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  Год назад +1

      You have a good point

    • @elig2728
      @elig2728 Год назад +3

      Problem I have is Phillips Hue that much better? For my 65in Samsung S95B it’s $99 from Nanoleaf for a complete system, to get a Sync Box and Gradient Lights it’s over $500… and sadly no 120hz support for 4k which makes gaming with hue pointless. Is it really 5x better or worth 5x the cost?

  • @RichAesthetic
    @RichAesthetic 11 месяцев назад +1

    The people watching this video and obviously yourself who is making this video are the target demographic for the full custom home automations that you’re talking about. But the truth is, most of the world doesn’t have these kind of smart lights. And for those of us who were interested in it, it is incredibly easy to create the automation in the Shortcuts app. Like stupid easy, just take a moment and look at it, heck, that could be a video for yourself. If you don’t make one, I will try to get to making one.

  • @BoomPacker
    @BoomPacker 11 месяцев назад +1

    For me the setup was a pain the instructions and stuff suck, but once I got it going it works really good, especially in 4d mode

    • @m4rdi
      @m4rdi 9 месяцев назад

      What were your solutions while pairing? Because I constantly get the following messages;
      - Accessory Already in Another Home - Unable to Connect to Network
      - Accessory Not Found.
      I tried the soft and hard reset, but that doesn't seem to work. I sent an email but no reply yet...
      I got it to work like once, but it almost instantly lost connection again.

  • @sir_theodore23
    @sir_theodore23 2 месяца назад +1

    I just bought a nanoleaf 4d and the adhesive on the light strip is useless. Want to warn anyone else that if you buy this product you'll have to also get double sided tape. I haven't been able to do set up or try the lights out. Very poor experience so far.

  • @Necropheliac
    @Necropheliac 10 месяцев назад +1

    For me, the biggest problem with this product is the quality of the camera image. I have a TV room environment that's already got a lot of lighting elements happening, and the camera on the nanoleaf is heavily influenced by the surrounding light conditions. This camera is very easily overexposed which is disappointing because its being directly pointed at a TV with very dynamic illumination.
    On bright white screens and even grey areas, the camera has a greenish tinge in the image so when the image turns bright white, the camera interprets that as this minty green color. I can adjust the white balance (and trust me, I've tried everything with the calibration and controls), and adjusting the white balance can increase the accuracy of other colors, but white and grey will always be greenish because I can only calibrate other colors around the white point, I cant change how the camera interprets white, so the closer the screen image comes to white, the more greenish the 4D presentation looks.

  • @sircasino614
    @sircasino614 Год назад

    Probablly best to show on a wide wall with the lights out? Been using govee T2 for half a year and love it. The ad looked like it covered more of an area, but can't tell here if it's meant to

  • @Kris.galang
    @Kris.galang Год назад +1

    Any idea if the camera is manditory? I like how these hook up to Apple Kit but don't necessarily need the camera. But cheaper LED strips the white / warm whites aren't as accurate as Nanoleafs

    • @ememas17
      @ememas17 9 месяцев назад

      Camera is used to gather screen's colour palette in order to display the matching effect on the back. So for this function yes, mandatory. Camera is the whole point of this kit. Otherwise you can just apply random app-enabled or Homekit LEDs and they will simply shine without mimicking the screen.

  • @Jason-mk3nn
    @Jason-mk3nn Год назад +2

    I think Philips patented the only way to truly get the best sync out of the display (tv, monitor, etc.), which is why all of the competitors have to use a camera to achieve the same effect. That said they have come a long way from the initial camera-based solutions.
    You're right about HomeKit, but I won't be as nice as you were. Apple's HomeKit is a kludgy mess of a platform. Is it getting better, sorta. Only when users scream. Otherwise, like Siri, it just sits, dying slowly in comparison to the energy, resources and teamwork other competitors put into their platforms. Until the masses scream in unison about HomeKit (and many other things Apple has left dilapidating), it is never going to be what it could be, because in Apple's hierarchy, it is near last in priority. It exists, because Apple needs certain functionality for its own systems to work, but beyond that, the efforts put into it are about on par with the efforts to integrate iMessage with other platforms.

  • @imdbtruth
    @imdbtruth Год назад

    It's unfortunate that they're no longer making the Dream Screen system... I had one for a few years before the microcontroller crapped out, and it worked really good, and I feel it was much more accurate than the systems of today that are using cameras to do it.

  • @ememas17
    @ememas17 9 месяцев назад

    Well said about the automation when Apple TV is being turned on/off. This is quite annoying, as I have to ask Siri on my watch / phone to turn on Nanoleaf every single time I turn on Apple TV. The rule to open Nanoleaf IF Apple TV is on does work, but it goes to a random plain setting - not to 4D mode, which is my preference. If anybody manages to get it going automatically to 4D, please let me know 🙏

  • @JustinCarberry
    @JustinCarberry 9 месяцев назад

    Your "How I fixed my problems" section is why I bit the bullet on this. I was worried that it sucked, but it turns out the instruction could just be clearer. I'm glad I didnt just believe amazon reviews, they tend to be some of the most helpful morons who leave reviews at 1 star. Thank you Eric!!

  • @matthew-lawrence
    @matthew-lawrence Год назад

    Have you tried homeassistant?

  • @FlockersDesign
    @FlockersDesign 7 месяцев назад

    And how long did ut take for the light strips to fall of the TV?
    The most commen thing why i never buy tnings like this and for sure not at a price of 100 euro

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  7 месяцев назад

      I did not have any issues with it falling off the TV. I posted this video last summer and took this TV down in March to make room for a projector for a recent video project.

  • @Polkster13
    @Polkster13 Год назад

    Is that a UniFi White Touch phone on your desk?

  • @fredaker8353
    @fredaker8353 Год назад +3

    Not for me but thanks for the thorough test. Great and informative video as always.

  • @jimmy_changa6964
    @jimmy_changa6964 Год назад

    My problem is my cheap tv mount is too close to the tv and a good space of the lights dont display properly. 😑

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  Год назад

      Bummer.

    • @Jason-mk3nn
      @Jason-mk3nn Год назад

      Try putting a diffusion strip over the lights. Not heavy diffusion, but light. It will help to dissipate the individual lights, and make it a little more even. It won't totally solve your issue, but it should make it far more usable. There is another RUclips channel that is pretty much just LED strips and other light automations that you might find interesting. The guy running it is Chris Maher.

  • @thair
    @thair Год назад

    Didn’t work for me … my shapes turned off when I activate it

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  Год назад +1

      Bummer!

    • @thair
      @thair Год назад +1

      @@EricWelander I wish if I just waited for the reviews before I made my purchase 😅 .. my devices now are 105% out of sync after getting inserting the 4d sync box in ..I raised a ticket with their support .. I hope they take serious action after famous reviewers like you raise these concerns !

  • @PhotoJohn80
    @PhotoJohn80 Год назад

    Um if the movie projector is calibrated correctly it will not bother your eyes in complete darkness. A projector needs to be calibrated to 16ish FL and that way it will not bother your eyes

  • @neverman3398
    @neverman3398 Год назад +1

    Doesn’t seem to be as accurate as the Govee Immersion/Dreamview. Nice review btw.

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  Год назад

      Thanks and thanks for letting me know. I haven't tried the Govee Immersion / Dreamview

  • @Dane-ish
    @Dane-ish Год назад

    Thanks for the vid. Do you know if the product can be controlled locally with the device blocked from the internet?
    Also in regards to colour matching, is there functionality to tell the app you have cut the strip? If not it may expect it to still be the full size and all the zones will be offset from the app’s expected placement on the TV.

    • @EricWelander
      @EricWelander  Год назад

      The app is calibrated by setting where the corners of your TV are on the light strip when you first set it up. I did not try it in an offline scenario

    • @Dane-ish
      @Dane-ish Год назад +1

      @@EricWelander oh that’s handy that it all gets calibrated, I don’t think Govee can do that. If you do get a chance to test the offline access, let me know. Would prefer not to have internet connected cameras inside my house.

    • @SmartLightDimwit
      @SmartLightDimwit Год назад

      When you calibrate the lightstrip that is how it knows where the strip has been cut. Also, all color matching is handled locally and no video or audio is transmitted to Nanoleaf, but they do provide a privacy cap for extra peace of mind.

    • @Dane-ish
      @Dane-ish Год назад +1

      @@SmartLightDimwit interesting, thanks! Do you know if they work without internet connection?

  • @PakluPapito
    @PakluPapito 7 месяцев назад

    It uses a camera 🤔but why ?

  • @SmartundPraktisch
    @SmartundPraktisch Год назад

    nice video. i have the same problems at the start with the stripe. i do the same with the trackingfield from the camera and boooom ist really better.

  • @damnnitdave
    @damnnitdave Год назад

    Great review.

  • @Jay-sd1kf
    @Jay-sd1kf 5 месяцев назад

    Nothing compares to Phillips ambilight

  • @LacerdaX10
    @LacerdaX10 Год назад +1

    GOVEE APP is 1000 times better!!! I gotta say that even being a  Apple consumer and being stuck with Nanoleaf, I hate the App!

  • @zsavage1820
    @zsavage1820 7 месяцев назад

    GOVEE FOR THE WIN

  • @farhanshah1427
    @farhanshah1427 11 месяцев назад

    Is that you Stipe Miocic?

  • @sasikumarrajan5334
    @sasikumarrajan5334 2 месяца назад

    U look like Tobey maguire in spiderman. 😊

  • @mikewhitby2686
    @mikewhitby2686 Год назад

    Just get a Phillips ambilight tv

  • @williamtopping
    @williamtopping 4 месяца назад

    Unless you're fucking doctor who, then these time travelling LEDs are not 4D.

  • @MilesCri
    @MilesCri Год назад

    My Ambilight still much more responsive and accurate. Happy I didn’t wait for this product… nanoleaf are no good with the software… their essential light can’t even fade to turn on and off. Disappointing company.

  • @TechdoLiberal
    @TechdoLiberal Год назад

    Or, and hear me out here, research Hyperion and sk6812 144led per meter. And see all issues addressed.

    • @caseychaffin5445
      @caseychaffin5445 Год назад +1

      So diy it your self for more money

    • @TechdoLiberal
      @TechdoLiberal Год назад

      @@caseychaffin5445 money is not an objection when discussing nanoleaf buddy xD

  • @TsiRoadkill
    @TsiRoadkill 9 месяцев назад

    Ditch that apple non sense and start using home assistant