Or why not just buy a 700 dollar laptop in 2017, (or even whatever you're on now), build time machine, go back into time and sell the 2017/newer one for at least 10k.
The funny thing is that the hardware/software from 2017 would more than likely be incompatible with hardware/software from 1997. So while you would have the most powerful computer, it would be worthless.
"The funny thing is that the hardware/software from 2017 would more than likely be incompatible with hardware/software from 1997. So while you would have the most powerful computer, it would be worthless." I dunno, a 32 bit build of Windows 10 can still run 16 bit DOS and Windows software (it's only the 64 bit build that can't) or you could put a modern Linux distro with Wine (and DOSBox) to run 16 bit Windows software even better than 32 bit Windows! DOS and Win16 were still thing back in 97.
The 90s were hell for obsolescence , within 2 years of this machine being released we were all running CPUs approaching 800MHz with 1GHz on the horizon - the performance jumps were insane 1995 - 2000.
Holy crap! My uncle had one- it was an absolute TANK! Good times... I slipped and fell on ice and dropped it in the bag. I remember running Scandisk with my uncle watching over my shoulder to make sure there were no problems 😂
It's funny how quickly the price dropped on these laptops in the 90's. I remember picking up a Micron laptop with what I think was a 13" display and 233mhz processor along with similar modularity for what I think was less than $2000.. Of course that was just before the Pentium II based laptops emerged.
Yeah, the rapid pace was really wild those few years especially. I remember getting my 233MHz AMD-K6 machine in '97 and being blown away by how fast and cheap things were just a year and a half later!
i remember the laptop my aunt bought in 1999, it was a Toshiba with a Pentium 200mhz 16mb ram if remember well. it was awesome, being able to play Duke3D in a laptop (i was 6 years old but i really remember well playing duke3d on my aunt house)
For me it was Wing Commander Prophecy :). Although it didn't have the flashy voodoo graphics my desktop used it did run at a decent framerate using the MMX enhancements. That and of course MAME that was in its early stages of development and a few other emulators too.
I remember making a new specs sheet for a future desktop PC build every 2-3 weeks. Last one was a Pentium 2 based build and two weeks later going with my dad to the IT store and the Pentium 3 just launched (locally) a few days earlier... All that hard work and research going into the trash, but I did end up with the best PC in my class... until the new AMDs came along. 1GHz!!! But mine still ran Quake 3 better than my mates machines! And that was the important part.
Ah yes, the late nineties, a time where your 'personal computer' lasted for about 5 months before it became obsolete, if you were lucky. I really don't mis that part of those times.
My 2011 Samsung Galaxy Nexus with LineAge OS (ANDROID 7.1.2) is running flawlessly if you're using it for simple tasks such as social media, youtube etc.
Hmmm, yes. PCs can last for half a decade but it still isn't rare and obsolete. But not for smartphones tho. Two months and bam, obsolete. Still got my original S4 back then in 2013 and even tho it's soorta slow, still does the job.
Worked for Gateway in 1997 and was allowed to use this laptop for free as an employee. LOVED IT ! Helped me finish all those papers for my HR Management degree.
Really enjoyed this presentation man I’m one of those who had a computer shop back then in Australia and I remember so well these laptops Well done anyway
In the words of Weird Al: My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks But it was obsolete before I opened the box You say you've had your desktop for over a week? Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique Your laptop is a month old? Well that's great If you could use a nice, heavy paperweight
80 Meg RAM in a laptop in 97? Holy hell! I had 64 Meg in my first GW laptop in 2000. And that baby was expensive. Having 80 Meg in a laptop 97 would be like having 128 Gig today.
@Bax Xboxes That is not right. 32 MByte RAM was super expensive in 1997 (I als have a price list there from '97 computer magazines that I kept). So 64 (!) + 16 (!) in a laptop does not translates to 6 GByte in 2019. It translates to 64 GByte.
@@Zedek : at 97 I ve been a hardware technician in an IT company and my PC was an MMX233Mhz with 384 MB Ram, at this year was a Boom in Ram prices, I made good deals selling "tested' ram modules those days :)
@Reality Programmer but its doesnt have any of the features i got quite expensive tv (1500$) bought in 2012 and its completely useless cuz the tv i bought lately for maybe 700$ have wifi, ethernet, netflix, youtube, everythinbg you could dream of meanwhile the old tv with only way to connect to internet is to connect it with PC but still the quality is shit compared to my new LG
That is a very bold statement, plus you’re very stupid if you want your laptop to weight more just so you can tell everyone how much weight you have to carry. I don’t see what is wrong with carrying lightweight laptops.
The 80s and the 90s was the crowdfunding phase of computers: you paid processor and other chip and IC makers to make better things, and get in return demos that will get obsolete in months.
I'll take today's 1080TI hoarders over that shit back then. I was too young in the 90's to be making my own PCs all the time, but the guy a cross the street from me built them and talked about how rabid it was. He build me a Frankenstein rig that I used from 1995-2003, upgrading from Win95 to Win98 till I got my own XP computer in 2006. Then from that point I made my own stuff.
Videos like these make you appreciate how powerful all of our computers are today and how people running 5 year old chips shouldn't really feel the need to upgrade.
I thought the only thing you could do with a Chromebook was go online though.. I remember needing to use one in class one day, and being pretty unimpressed by how limited it was... You can do far more with a proper PC, and I'd argue that the $5000 laptop of 1997 was way more useful to people back then than the $100-$300 Chromebooks are to people now.
Can you imagine paying $8000 for a laptop or even a fully loaded desktop today? It's truly remarkable at how affordable electronics really have become.
For a long while I've been hoping for a Tech Tales on Gateway. It was a major local business and I miss the days it was around. I remember going with my parents back then to the show room at the headquarters to buy our first family computer and saw not only desktops but their range of home theater products as well. Today when I go thrifting I can find items like Gateway branded DVD players and my grandfather still has Gateway HD plasma from the earlier 2000s. The wife of the man my father works for used to be Ted Waitt's personal secretary and his shop is filled with the old holstein cow boxes. The local museum has an exhibit with some of the old machines on display as well as original documents. Now the campus building sits with call centers moving in and out while the paint peels which is a shame.
I liked the Gateway Solo 2500. It was pretty similar to this system. But what was really neat is that it had a LCD bar that showed HD, power, and charging status.
For retrogaming, these pentium laptops with good active matrix displays, good cpus and integrated sound, are the best! And by having a few mhz processor, it can have some software trickery to run more speed sensitive older games. And it could run puppy linux to be able to download by itself games and music to its hard drive, standalone, without having to use a modern pc.
step 1: invent a time machine step 2: buy a smartphone step 3: go back to medieval times step 4: show the people this new technology step 5: get burned by stake for witchcraft. step 6: profit
VelvetCake Or be smart and use your knowledge of history to manipulate the locals and become the true king without them even realizing how. No need to be conspicuous.
I'm so conflicted. On the one hand, 1997 seems so yesterday and I remember it as clear as today. But on the other hand it seems totally vintage now. What gives? Man, thanks for this video. This is so sweet. A+ on this video.
Moore's law is getting a bit long in the tooth and things are slowing down, but still this is a good microcosm of how far and fast we've come since the 70's. When you stop and think about it, computer technology is still astonishing.
Oh yeah, the transistor count isn't growing as fast but clever people and complex design programs are indeed finding more and more ingenious ways to squeeze more 'real' power out of what we already have. And then there's quantum transistors hovering on the horizon/being used on the absolute bleeding edge of electronics research, so...
My dad who at the time made 55k a year bought this computer, when the new processor launched just 5 months after he now refuses to buy me the newest intel processor because he thinks that it will go obsolete in the coming months.
I get nostalgic from very specific sounds from Windows 98 SE, the first OS I ever used, since my parents had the "animal" sound theme selected and the startup sound disabled. For example, the critical error sound was a bunch of birds (or was it monkeys) screeching, which scared the hell out of me as a kid...
+CWINDOWSsystem32 Still have a Win98 laptop (Toshiba Satellite 4015 cds, P-II 266Mhz) idling away in a dark corner of my home network. It's only used to monitor a webmail account now, but years ago I changed it's startup sound to the Sci-Fi Channel's "2.0 Interface" bumper which can be heard 11 seconds into ruclips.net/video/L5FcI3NIYbA/видео.html Because it does so little, it's uptime is measured in weeks, sometimes months, so it's always startling to hear that sound once in a blue moon :D
Lazy Game Reviews Same here, I love the Thinkpad episode. Thinkpads rock!! I got a T43 with ATI radeon X300 Series GPU with Windows 7 and I love it. It's so small, durable, and feels so good to use, you know ? I've never owned a Thinkpad before, yet they feel so special. It is so much more well built than my 1000 € Asus n56vv it's ridiculous. Even the sound is way better. My purpose is now to get a 600E for DOS gaming in more places. :)
They have not gone out of business yet. Ted Waitt did put out some strange ads in Computer Shopper in the 90s which copied themes from current hit movies in theaters. I especially remember one which copied the cheesy Kevin Costner movie Robin Hood. I did not know Robin Hood had a mullet.
Lurker1979 Yeah. I have a nice 7 year old blue gateway laptop but that was about the time that Acer bought gateway so it's build quality dropped significantly.
I have a GAteway NV53A I bought like 5 years ago.... or 8 idk. I just had to take it apart to redo the thermal paste, guessing that was why it kept blue screening lately. EVERYTHING made in china, even the Ram, never heard of Nanayaa or w/e. And to top it off, there was no thermal paste anywhere but the CPU, just deteriorated pads. As for the CPU, what was left of the paste was chunks on the sides, there was NOTHING on the top of it. Gateway's really fallen in their quality. Laptop's working fine now though.
@@morganrussman and said cellphone is hundreds of times more powerful than this computer right here while cheaper and smaller God i love technological advancements
@@carso1500 and are way more capable then they were when the computer in the video was released. On top of being able to be hooked up to a faster cell network. Of course, the laptop could be just as so too, but still.🤷
My brother-in-law leant me his (at least a Gateway Solo laptop) presenting it with great reverence. I never quite understood that until now. It has Windows 98 on it. I can't get anything to work to add or substract anything from or to it except through the infra red port.
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Honestly the most impressive part of this is the touchpad, I'm sure the first touchpad I ever saw was in early 2000s and it seemed to me like something out of a SciFi movie at the time...
Those modular bays on the Gateway computers is similar to what you could get on the Apple "WallStreet" PowerBook G3 of the day. That was also designed to allow for multiple batteries, an optical drive, floppy drive, etc. Kind of a neat idea at the time but I guess it added bulk and complexity so eventually they died off.
So expensive... But still extremely bad speakers. The Toshiba Satellites from around 1998 had pretty good speakers. For >5000 i would have expected better than that. I used my toshiba Sattelite 460xcdt or whatever it was for years.
I still have a functional Sony Vaio PCG-818 from 1999, which cost at the time, according to Anandtech, 3000$... it featured a P2@300MHz, 64Mb RAM, a 2.5MB NeoMagic graphics accelerator and a whopping 6.4Gb IDE Hard drive... it was my first ever computer back in 2007 when my dad brought it home after finding his old work laptop in a shelf at his office. I remember I was 5 and really excited to play those old 2D games I had in some CDs. Unfortunately, after upgrading to another computer (a P3@1GHz with 512MB RAM, Nvidia 6200 and a 20gb hard drive, which sadly died yesterday) it was kept in a box for around 5 years. After finding it about 2 years ago I decided to bring it back to its former glory, and after a hard drive replacement for a 160gb IDE (the original one completely died after all that time) it was ready to have Windows 2000 installed. It still works completely, which is a miracle as the battery leaked while fitted in the pc. Luckily some parts are still widely available online, so I’m thinking of upgrading the RAM to the supported 192MB and having a new battery installed, as it only turns on with the charger plugged in, due to what happened. Amazingly it still feels quite snappy today, and I even went on the web with a WiFi dongle on. I also found the original Floppy Disc drive which could either be installed directly on the computer itself, instead of having the CD-ROM drive installed, or you could plug in with a cable which would snap on the connector which was in the back side of the drive. I assume these computers were quite rare, as I couldn’t find any on the internet through all these years of searching for a similar one. Apparently, soon after they came out P3s would arrive, and as this was expected people didn’t bother to buy a 3000$ laptop to last six months, as stated by an Anandtech report at the time. You can check it out here: www.anandtech.com/show/229
Tyrian Jukebox? MMX? 1997? Gateway 2000? oh Clint, thanks for the nostalgia rush, and metric system weight ;) Incredible how crazy was the obsolete process in 1995-2000 period Today, a core 2 duo still work for everything (except gaming)
Throw XP and a GT740 on a C2D E8400 rig, and you could use it for 9x-era Win gaming, with DOS being handled by emulation. Actually, in most cases for 9x-era, that C2D would be a bit faster than the recommended specs quoted for most games of that era, with far more RAM when maxing it out to 4GB, which is the max 32-bit Windows, and consequently XP, will detect anyways. As for the audio end when running DOSbox on that rig, since it would be running XP, you could use an old copy of Virtual SoundCanvas for GM/GS, run Munt to cover the MT-32, and then OPL3 can be handled internally by the emulator.
Actually I have a C2D E8600 and C2Q9650 for today gaming ;) DOSbox is awesome for DOS games with no intense 3D graphics. never use MUNT, i will check it out ;) But for old gaming, I have a P-III-500Mhz with a SBAWE64/Voodoo4 card, Win95/98SE/XP tri-boot OS. and for a very old games, a 486 (AMD-x5-133mhz) with SB16/Cirrus Logic VGA.
@@DFX4509B A C2D with a great video card will still play games pretty well. I am using an old Athlon X2 6400+ system that is slightly overclocked, and able to run WoW and Diablo 3 with the graphics settings maxed out running great over 45-60fps. I can run stuff like Crysis with graphics settings in the upper mid range - it still can work.
My stepdad was working for Prodigy Internet tech support and was allowed to keep one of these when they were end of life. He re-built the laptop and gave it to me as my very first personally owned laptop. I managed to find a replacement battery on eBay was good to go enjoying Windows 95 and Doom on long car rides lol.
i got a gateway solo 2550 with a pentium 3 450 mhz, 160 mb ram, 4mb silicon motion lynxem, ess maestro 2e, 80gb fujitsu hard drive partitioned to 20gb, running Windows 98 SE as it's main OS. I can't get SB Pro emulation to work though so i can't really play DOS games.
That was a ridiculous amount of storage back then. I remember when we got a newer family computer in 2003, it had 1 gigabyte, and it blew my mind that we finally had a machine with the fabled gig of storage. Growing up in the 90s, 1 gigabyte was largely viewed as an impossibly large amount of storage, 2 GB in 1997 is insane.
It's really not that small for 1997, you would think 22 years later we'd have 512 TB hard drives by now but no, Apple still sells 64 GB computers which is not that much for 22 years later IMO
I just found one of these beauties at a yard sale this morning. 10 bucks! It came with a CD-ROM drive, but no floppy drive. Any idea where I could look to get a modular floppy drive for this thing?
@@cheddalan2475 Turns out that that was the ONLY place that I could find one, and I had to buy an entire extra 2100 to get it. Cost me $67, a far cry from what these were going for before this video came out (turns out my prior comment was more on the nose than I ever thought it would be), and it wasn't even complete!... or confirmed to be functional. I mean, if it is functional I have the means to get up and running, but I will be happy to at last have that FDD. I've been wanting to use the 2200 I bought as a standalone word processor free of modern distractions, but the lack of a floppy drive made transferring files between machines or to cloud storage problematic; I have files on mine that I couldn't move and was reluctant to expand upon because I had no means to move them over!
Looks similar to a Toshiba Satellite I bought in 1997. I bought it in office depot for $800 since it was a floor demo but it still had the original price tag of $5000 or so. It was bulky and heavy but the sound and cd rom was something. I later sold it for $600 before going into the Army.
1. Build Time Machine
2. Buy laptop for $30 in 2017.
3. Sell laptop for $5399 in 1997.
4. Profit: $5369
Tong Zou but stocks are boring as shit
Or why not just buy a 700 dollar laptop in 2017, (or even whatever you're on now), build time machine, go back into time and sell the 2017/newer one for at least 10k.
The funny thing is that the hardware/software from 2017 would more than likely be incompatible with hardware/software from 1997. So while you would have the most powerful computer, it would be worthless.
"The funny thing is that the hardware/software from 2017 would more than likely be incompatible with hardware/software from 1997. So while you would have the most powerful computer, it would be worthless."
I dunno, a 32 bit build of Windows 10 can still run 16 bit DOS and Windows software (it's only the 64 bit build that can't) or you could put a modern Linux distro with Wine (and DOSBox) to run 16 bit Windows software even better than 32 bit Windows!
DOS and Win16 were still thing back in 97.
Put the money in the bank before going back to 2017 and get 20 years of interest
And only 10 years later, in 2007, I bought a laptop for 1/5th of the cost that can still run Chrome and even World of Warcraft just fine now in 2019.
What laptop and specs?
@@excess.subiefl0w DELL Latitude are the cheapest yet most reliable laptops you can ever buy.
@@L30NBL4NK I agree. I have a 2012 one and it works well for what I use it which is 90s - late 00s gaming and my studies.
But it has bigger top bezel..
@@KofaOne Are bezels are you care about?? I'd use a 2010s era ThinkPad or Inspiron any day, fuckin love those machines
The 90s were hell for obsolescence , within 2 years of this machine being released we were all running CPUs approaching 800MHz with 1GHz on the horizon - the performance jumps were insane 1995 - 2000.
Yep total hell.. I remember having to upgrade my 5 thousand dollar pcs ram a year or so after purchase just to run mortal kombat 3 lol
Why are these videos so relaxing?
@Yeah Right lol
Nostalgia feels! Takes you back!
First time?
Swiftness Studios it’s his voice
nostalgia and comfy voice
Holy crap! My uncle had one- it was an absolute TANK! Good times... I slipped and fell on ice and dropped it in the bag. I remember running Scandisk with my uncle watching over my shoulder to make sure there were no problems 😂
Honestly the best channel, no drama, just a dude who loves what he does.
Also a dude who loves sharing his knowledge!! I so enjoy LGR videos
Yeah right. :D
Talks too god damn much about nothing tho I can't handle it
And does it well.
He’s a tech review channel why the fuck would he have drama?
Seeing a formerly $5000 laptop is still something pretty amazing. I remember drooling over a system like that back when it was new.
"More computing, More places" is my new catch phrase for now on till Infinity
Edward Bell
Go ahead and use it man, we all have smartphones now, so it's already the unspoken catch phrase of earth lol
Similarily specced and similarily priced as a 2018 Macbook.
16Megabytes of RAM, not Gigabytes.
It's an analogy that makes reference to how overpriced and underperforming are Apple laptops of today…
Yeah, and nearly same technology standart :D (just kidding)
Oh I get it, it's funny because you said something bad about Apple. ha ha, very clever.
@@machineofadream No, it's funny because it's true.
thank you so much for good captions!!
It's funny how quickly the price dropped on these laptops in the 90's. I remember picking up a Micron laptop with what I think was a 13" display and 233mhz processor along with similar modularity for what I think was less than $2000.. Of course that was just before the Pentium II based laptops emerged.
Yeah, the rapid pace was really wild those few years especially. I remember getting my 233MHz AMD-K6 machine in '97 and being blown away by how fast and cheap things were just a year and a half later!
Lon.TV yep, and in three years later you could have 1GHz!
i remember the laptop my aunt bought in 1999, it was a Toshiba with a Pentium 200mhz 16mb ram if remember well. it was awesome, being able to play Duke3D in a laptop (i was 6 years old but i really remember well playing duke3d on my aunt house)
For me it was Wing Commander Prophecy :). Although it didn't have the flashy voodoo graphics my desktop used it did run at a decent framerate using the MMX enhancements. That and of course MAME that was in its early stages of development and a few other emulators too.
I remember making a new specs sheet for a future desktop PC build every 2-3 weeks. Last one was a Pentium 2 based build and two weeks later going with my dad to the IT store and the Pentium 3 just launched (locally) a few days earlier...
All that hard work and research going into the trash, but I did end up with the best PC in my class... until the new AMDs came along. 1GHz!!!
But mine still ran Quake 3 better than my mates machines! And that was the important part.
Ah yes, the late nineties, a time where your 'personal computer' lasted for about 5 months before it became obsolete, if you were lucky. I really don't mis that part of those times.
Robo Rat in alot of ways thats still a thing today maybe even worse in some cases
GrantRoscoe With smartphones, kind of, with pc's definitely not, pc's could now last a few years without being outdated.
Pete S. My galaxy S5 that I got four years ago still does everything the new phones do (well except for some useless stuff).
My 2011 Samsung Galaxy Nexus with LineAge OS (ANDROID 7.1.2) is running flawlessly if you're using it for simple tasks such as social media, youtube etc.
Hmmm, yes. PCs can last for half a decade but it still isn't rare and obsolete.
But not for smartphones tho. Two months and bam, obsolete.
Still got my original S4 back then in 2013 and even tho it's soorta slow, still does the job.
Finally! More computing in more places!!
But do they have more places in more computing? #askingtherealquestions
Cybernetic organisms #Cyberdyne
Can you compute in a box?
Can you compute with a fox?
Can you compute in a chair,
Or compute in your underwear?
suborbitalprocess yes, you can compute in you're Toilet.
can it run crysis
Worked for Gateway in 1997 and was allowed to use this laptop for free as an employee. LOVED IT ! Helped me finish all those papers for my HR Management degree.
Do you still have it tho?
Really enjoyed this presentation man I’m one of those who had a computer shop back then in Australia and I remember so well these laptops
Well done anyway
Stop cutting your babies.
I like it how you run Duke Nukem 3D on every machine possible.
It's impossible on today's computers without some sort of software to act as a middleman.
I have Duke Nukem 3D on my phone
Duke is the reason I still keep a laptop manufactured in 1998. You can see on my channel a video I made with this laptop.
DosBox is, infact, software that works as a middleman
Not impossible, you can boot into FreeDOS natively and run it that way.
Ahhh.. I love old laptops.
Windows 95 how do you feel about your younger brother Windows 10?
Meh, he looks fancy and colourful but I can do something he can't.. run DOS..
what about Windows XP
Windows 95 online dos emulator.
Windows 95 Me too
In the words of Weird Al:
My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box
You say you've had your desktop for over a week?
Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique
Your laptop is a month old? Well that's great
If you could use a nice, heavy paperweight
Fastwinstondoom "It's all about the Pentiums! YEY!"
Got to love how that song is still relevant today xD
What kinda chip you got in there, a Dorito?
This song is absolutely irrelevant today. Core I5 from 2011 still performs just perfectly fine.
Sergey Kochin
Someone needs to learn the difference between relevant and irrelevant, lol.
Can you imagine showing that Ebay picture at the end to a person that just spent thousands on it in 1997? Haha.
80 Meg RAM in a laptop in 97?
Holy hell!
I had 64 Meg in my first GW laptop in 2000.
And that baby was expensive.
Having 80 Meg in a laptop 97 would be like having 128 Gig today.
@Bax Xboxes That is not right. 32 MByte RAM was super expensive in 1997 (I als have a price list there from '97 computer magazines that I kept). So 64 (!) + 16 (!) in a laptop does not translates to 6 GByte in 2019. It translates to 64 GByte.
@@Zedek : at 97 I ve been a hardware technician in an IT company and my PC was an MMX233Mhz with 384 MB Ram, at this year was a Boom in Ram prices, I made good deals selling "tested' ram modules those days :)
@Bax Xboxes lol 128 mb ram in 1989 would be like having 128 gb ram in 2020...
Yeah still expensive. I have 32GBs of 3600MHZ DDR4 Trident Z RGBs.
The moment when you're watching an old LGR video and this notification pops up, ah what joy.
I actually read the "ah what joy" in LGR's voice
exactly as I meant it to be.
Rounak Dutta tui ki banagli?? I am a Bengali :D
Rounak Dutta bujhli??
dude why would you infer that? and why would you ask that?
*More computing, more places.*
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Moore computing Moore places.
*More Idiots*
Wait, what's the tagline again?
Moore Laws Moore Places
"As low as $150/mo"
Imagine all the people still paying for this 3 years later being already obsolete.
That's why loans for electronics is a very bad idea in general.
@Reality Programmer but its doesnt have any of the features i got quite expensive tv (1500$) bought in 2012 and its completely useless cuz the tv i bought lately for maybe 700$ have wifi, ethernet, netflix, youtube, everythinbg you could dream of meanwhile the old tv with only way to connect to internet is to connect it with PC but still the quality is shit compared to my new LG
Man. 5 grand and in the late 90s earth 2000s PCs became obsolete faster than your milks expiration date.
These kind of videos make even a laptop from 20 years ago sound actually pretty nice!
Thanks for giving us the metric system when stating the weight of the laptop.
Certainly! The majority of my viewers are from outside the US so it only makes sense.
the metric system is the devils work
The real woodgrain MVP.
Metric is the real deal.
thx for putting weight in Kg, looking from Uruguay.
so in 2047 all the costly builds shown on youtube will look like this ???
noah more like in 37 or less
you giys need some more schooling, in 21 years
the irony is painful
RUclips will not exist that long tho
they're hemorrhaging money and too busy being "inclusive" to worry about including a customer base
That modularity should be on modern laptops
Who would buy a laptop that thick and heavy? Maybe the 0.05% of us who find this stuff cool, if they were lucky :(
Higgins2001 well we can design it to make it slimmer and sleeker, maybe a thinkpad would be good for this
Thinkpads with the ultrabay, can swap out the CD drive for an extra 2.5" hdd/ssd, 4 cell battery, etc
Thinkpads are very modular, you can swap out a bunch of parts
This is the exact reason I opted to buy a Thinkpad. I also just bought an ultrabay battery to replace the dvd drive that I never use.
better keyboard than 2018 macbook air, macbook pro.
but not as stylish like on a PowerBook G3 Bronze keys lombard.
worse touchpad though, the thing's like a stamp
7 pounds...today's laptop users are weaker.
My MSI is 8 pounds.
11 with the power brick.
15 with all my junk in the bag.
Our ancestors during 90s were cavemenish and rugged muscular stone age typos.
The muscles of this generation have atrophied due to lack of use or to under-use.
I think the SC17 has you beat. 9lbs. Not sure about the brick.
That is a very bold statement, plus you’re very stupid if you want your laptop to weight more just so you can tell everyone how much weight you have to carry. I don’t see what is wrong with carrying lightweight laptops.
The 80s and the 90s was the crowdfunding phase of computers: you paid processor and other chip and IC makers to make better things, and get in return demos that will get obsolete in months.
I'll take today's 1080TI hoarders over that shit back then. I was too young in the 90's to be making my own PCs all the time, but the guy a cross the street from me built them and talked about how rabid it was. He build me a Frankenstein rig that I used from 1995-2003, upgrading from Win95 to Win98 till I got my own XP computer in 2006. Then from that point I made my own stuff.
Videos like these make you appreciate how powerful all of our computers are today and how people running 5 year old chips shouldn't really feel the need to upgrade.
James Russo were actually in the peak of technology honestly
Bruh Im still cruising an 11 yr old i7
That windows 95 boot up sound
Tech Skits so good
A most wonderful sound!
Composed by Brian Eno. :-)
I think LGR mentioned that in some previous video.
RetroX oh I know right. :'(
It's funny to think how a ~$100 Chromebook today can outperform a >$5K laptop of two decades ago. Damn, computer technology grows fast.
I thought the only thing you could do with a Chromebook was go online though.. I remember needing to use one in class one day, and being pretty unimpressed by how limited it was... You can do far more with a proper PC, and I'd argue that the $5000 laptop of 1997 was way more useful to people back then than the $100-$300 Chromebooks are to people now.
For a truly decent laptop even in this day and age, chances are you'll still have to drop at least a grand.
only problem is from what I've heard discussed is that we are rapidly approaching a plateau.
Chrome is linuxbased just install a new distro and there you go
Yeah, installing full Linux on a Chromebook would probably make them infinitely more useful offline.
0:27 ASMR to my ears. This sound makes me cry... Takes me back to my childhood
Can you imagine paying $8000 for a laptop or even a fully loaded desktop today? It's truly remarkable at how affordable electronics really have become.
Maybe if Apple. 😁
do u have extra? ur laptop is $3200, rly man? Please give me one!
TheDarxide23 Enough money to buy iPad, iPhone, MacBookPro, Apple Watch, Pencil, AirPods, Apple TV.. wooh!
A H900 it cost that much a the specs are not great?
Affordable? By devaluing the past electronics. For example 512 ram, 2 gig ram, 4 gig ram, 8 gig ram... each increment made the past obsolete.
For a long while I've been hoping for a Tech Tales on Gateway. It was a major local business and I miss the days it was around. I remember going with my parents back then to the show room at the headquarters to buy our first family computer and saw not only desktops but their range of home theater products as well. Today when I go thrifting I can find items like Gateway branded DVD players and my grandfather still has Gateway HD plasma from the earlier 2000s. The wife of the man my father works for used to be Ted Waitt's personal secretary and his shop is filled with the old holstein cow boxes. The local museum has an exhibit with some of the old machines on display as well as original documents. Now the campus building sits with call centers moving in and out while the paint peels which is a shame.
I liked the Gateway Solo 2500. It was pretty similar to this system. But what was really neat is that it had a LCD bar that showed HD, power, and charging status.
More computing, more places 😂 i love your videos with deep reviews of old computers 😄 thanks LGR
For retrogaming, these pentium laptops with good active matrix displays, good cpus and integrated sound, are the best!
And by having a few mhz processor, it can have some software trickery to run more speed sensitive older games.
And it could run puppy linux to be able to download by itself games and music to its hard drive, standalone, without having to use a modern pc.
Just got a cup of coffee and suddenly a new LGR episode appears. Thanks, Clint!
step 1: invent a time machine
step 2: buy a smartphone
step 3: go back to medieval times
step 4: show the people this new technology
step 5: get burned by stake for witchcraft.
step 6: profit
VelvetCake Or be smart and use your knowledge of history to manipulate the locals and become the true king without them even realizing how. No need to be conspicuous.
VelvetCake
What use is money to a pile of ash?
Wouldn't that cause a time paradox where you never invented a time machine?
+Ttrucker I believe his whole comment was a joke...
Perhaps if you could use a much simpler device that could run on solar energy without issues and then take it to medieval times ..... maybe profit?
"They're selling on eBay for $30!"
I can guarantee they won't be for long.
Guess you're right, and makes me reflect upon how dumb the human race can get under certain conditions.
Great for DOS games. Picked one up from a local computer shop for 5 bucks a few weeks ago. Definitely worth it for 5 bucks.
I was looking for old tech in my parent’s basement and found that exact computer!😂
I'm so conflicted. On the one hand, 1997 seems so yesterday and I remember it as clear as today. But on the other hand it seems totally vintage now. What gives? Man, thanks for this video. This is so sweet. A+ on this video.
Moore's law is getting a bit long in the tooth and things are slowing down, but still this is a good microcosm of how far and fast we've come since the 70's. When you stop and think about it, computer technology is still astonishing.
MrMortull Moore's Law verbatim is slowing down... but if we're talking about efficiency, we're still going strong.
Oh yeah, the transistor count isn't growing as fast but clever people and complex design programs are indeed finding more and more ingenious ways to squeeze more 'real' power out of what we already have.
And then there's quantum transistors hovering on the horizon/being used on the absolute bleeding edge of electronics research, so...
Is it Chandler's laptop?
My dad who at the time made 55k a year bought this computer, when the new processor launched just 5 months after he now refuses to buy me the newest intel processor because he thinks that it will go obsolete in the coming months.
Those time's are gone, until the quantum computer comes.
You have a very wise dad.
Well tell that to I5 2500/k and I7 2600/k users :D
Grab a threadripper. Those things are here to stay for now.
my ass rofl
God the computer I could get for 6 grand today.
You can get a free smart phone that's more powerful lol
Just imagine....
Ah, YYEEEESSS, the Windows 95-98 era Maze Screensaver. Even being born in '98 that was still a big part of my PC experiences early in life.
0:28 Admit. You getting nostalgi as hell? I do when i hear the login sound!!!
Negnav123 You get nostalgic when you god’s audio gift. FTFY
Never had a Windows 95 machine. Went from Windows 3.1 on a 486 to Windows 98 SE on a 733Mhz Pentium 3. Next few computers all had Windows XP.
I get nostalgic from very specific sounds from Windows 98 SE, the first OS I ever used, since my parents had the "animal" sound theme selected and the startup sound disabled. For example, the critical error sound was a bunch of birds (or was it monkeys) screeching, which scared the hell out of me as a kid...
+CWINDOWSsystem32
Still have a Win98 laptop (Toshiba Satellite 4015 cds, P-II 266Mhz) idling away in a dark corner of my home network. It's only used to monitor a webmail account now, but years ago I changed it's startup sound to the Sci-Fi Channel's "2.0 Interface" bumper which can be heard 11 seconds into
ruclips.net/video/L5FcI3NIYbA/видео.html
Because it does so little, it's uptime is measured in weeks, sometimes months, so it's always startling to hear that sound once in a blue moon :D
Nah i only get nostalgic when i hear the windows XP startup sound.
Digging this raft of hardware and specifically laptop stuff lately.
Glad to hear it! I've been in a portable hardware mood.
Lazy Game Reviews Same here, I love the Thinkpad episode. Thinkpads rock!!
I got a T43 with ATI radeon X300 Series GPU with Windows 7 and I love it. It's so small, durable, and feels so good to use, you know ?
I've never owned a Thinkpad before, yet they feel so special. It is so much more well built than my 1000 € Asus n56vv it's ridiculous. Even the sound is way better.
My purpose is now to get a 600E for DOS gaming in more places. :)
0:27 that *a e s t h e t i c* startup though
Change da world my final message. Goodbye.
Type this into RUclips: "Ugochukwu - Windows 95" a beat made out of this sound. Thank me later
It somehow sounds better through crunchy old speakers too.
I really enjoy your style and subject matter. One of the best channels of RUclips. Keep doing you!
7lbs, the weight of an M16-A2 assault rifle.
Ah M16! I ve spent so fucking many nights with dat weapon in my arms.. :P
more computing more places
Speaking of Gateway 2000, what are the chances that we get a Tech Tales episode about them?
I would like that as well.
Yes...
Yeah! Tech Tales Hype! lol
They have not gone out of business yet. Ted Waitt did put out some strange ads in Computer Shopper in the 90s which copied themes from current hit movies in theaters. I especially remember one which copied the cheesy Kevin Costner movie Robin Hood. I did not know Robin Hood had a mullet.
Sad to see how far Gateway has fell.
Lurker1979 Yeah. I have a nice 7 year old blue gateway laptop but that was about the time that Acer bought gateway so it's build quality dropped significantly.
Gateway is dead
I have a GAteway NV53A I bought like 5 years ago.... or 8 idk. I just had to take it apart to redo the thermal paste, guessing that was why it kept blue screening lately. EVERYTHING made in china, even the Ram, never heard of Nanayaa or w/e. And to top it off, there was no thermal paste anywhere but the CPU, just deteriorated pads. As for the CPU, what was left of the paste was chunks on the sides, there was NOTHING on the top of it. Gateway's really fallen in their quality. Laptop's working fine now though.
wow i had this laptop as a kid when my parents didnt want it anymore sometime around 1999-2000
Crazy how times hav changed . I was watching a old radio shack ad for a cell phone in 1997-1998 costing 2,000$ lol yay for technology
And cell phones cost 1/2 that or 1/4 that these days, assuming that you get a smartphone, not a flip phone.
@@morganrussman and said cellphone is hundreds of times more powerful than this computer right here while cheaper and smaller
God i love technological advancements
@@carso1500 and are way more capable then they were when the computer in the video was released. On top of being able to be hooked up to a faster cell network. Of course, the laptop could be just as so too, but still.🤷
@@morganrussman makes you wonder what kind of technology we will have in another 23 years
@@carso1500 Mmmm, true.
Holy crap! It has a touchpad!
whats wrong with that?
Hrm, time to pickup a dead one off eBay and try to stuff an i7 ITX rig inside?
You prob blow out the lcd screen with that inside it , idk not that much of a pc expert haha
Probably the lcd won't connect at all
you cant cuz i7 started by 1156 to 1151 and the motherboard wont fit it.
My brother-in-law leant me his (at least a Gateway Solo laptop) presenting it with great reverence. I never quite understood that until now. It has Windows 98 on it. I can't get anything to work to add or substract anything from or to it except through the infra red port.
I still have my IBM Aptiva from 1997 and plan on continuing to use it.
Holy shit I remember Pod! What a game! What's even more crazy is that I remember that exact part of that circuit and the car!
Yay! Do you want the 233MHz MMX processor from my Solo 2300? (I upgraded it with a 266.)
holy shit balls. i still have one of those. i remember my dad buying one and me and him messing around on it
Can you review chandlers laptop?
Anyone wanna play DooM?
someone should review his job, I wonder if that was fiction or such jobs of entering numbers existed
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Linus Fedora Tips kinda ya.
games and stuff!
Honestly the most impressive part of this is the touchpad, I'm sure the first touchpad I ever saw was in early 2000s and it seemed to me like something out of a SciFi movie at the time...
my IBM Lenovo that my dad gave to my back in 92 had a touchpad
Great vid, thanks, one of my favourite channels!
but can it run crys...
i'll see myself out
Might be able to run it as a slide show at like 1 fps, that is if it doesn't burst into flames trying. lol.
It won’t even start xd
my 1080ti looked at Crysis and turned into dust...
not funny fuck face
Yeah, in max settings
I remember what a pain in the ass it was to get Pod to run with this whole mmx jazz. But it's a half decent game if I remember correctly
I like how it was acceptable to have a 2GB hard drive
Now if you have that you can put literally nothing on that hard drive
In 20 years, 4TB will probably be equally laughable.
Michael Burgwin Can't say I doubt it
ConnerGames OSs nowadays are bigger than that
2GB isn't even enough for most PS2 games ;-;
TARS You mean Windows is bigger than that.
Sounds much nicer than my $600 2017 laptop. Nice speakers, nice keyboard too
0:27 Holy shit! I haven't heard that music in over 15 years. I just started having flashbacks.
I miss Windows 95 and those clunky laptops/desktops.
mike8055 so do I so I sometimes use mine. I have a Commodore 64 I play the Oregon trail on sometimes and I have a 96 compaq with windows 95 on it.
I appreciate the metric conversion
Just listen to those 1997 speakers! (Thru your 2019 hd noise canceling bluetooth earbuds) they're amazing!
Heh, I remember my Toshiba Tecra 8000 from around 1999 having better speakers. Could get pretty loud without distorting.
wow, i’m glad so many people love your vids just like I do! I had no idea there was such a big audience for this ❤️
Those modular bays on the Gateway computers is similar to what you could get on the Apple "WallStreet" PowerBook G3 of the day. That was also designed to allow for multiple batteries, an optical drive, floppy drive, etc. Kind of a neat idea at the time but I guess it added bulk and complexity so eventually they died off.
So expensive... But still extremely bad speakers. The Toshiba Satellites from around 1998 had pretty good speakers. For >5000 i would have expected better than that.
I used my toshiba Sattelite 460xcdt or whatever it was for years.
But can it load the Crysis title screen?
your annoying comment is made out of cancer cells
Mineav get out...
It sure can make your sis cry.
after watching this video, i feel 1997 was like some 50 years ago :)
I still have a functional Sony Vaio PCG-818 from 1999, which cost at the time, according to Anandtech, 3000$... it featured a P2@300MHz, 64Mb RAM, a 2.5MB NeoMagic graphics accelerator and a whopping 6.4Gb IDE Hard drive... it was my first ever computer back in 2007 when my dad brought it home after finding his old work laptop in a shelf at his office. I remember I was 5 and really excited to play those old 2D games I had in some CDs. Unfortunately, after upgrading to another computer (a P3@1GHz with 512MB RAM, Nvidia 6200 and a 20gb hard drive, which sadly died yesterday) it was kept in a box for around 5 years. After finding it about 2 years ago I decided to bring it back to its former glory, and after a hard drive replacement for a 160gb IDE (the original one completely died after all that time) it was ready to have Windows 2000 installed. It still works completely, which is a miracle as the battery leaked while fitted in the pc. Luckily some parts are still widely available online, so I’m thinking of upgrading the RAM to the supported 192MB and having a new battery installed, as it only turns on with the charger plugged in, due to what happened. Amazingly it still feels quite snappy today, and I even went on the web with a WiFi dongle on. I also found the original Floppy Disc drive which could either be installed directly on the computer itself, instead of having the CD-ROM drive installed, or you could plug in with a cable which would snap on the connector which was in the back side of the drive. I assume these computers were quite rare, as I couldn’t find any on the internet through all these years of searching for a similar one. Apparently, soon after they came out P3s would arrive, and as this was expected people didn’t bother to buy a 3000$ laptop to last six months, as stated by an Anandtech report at the time. You can check it out here: www.anandtech.com/show/229
i am watching this video literally a day before this video hits 2 years
$5,399 and still slower than the Dreamcast...
How times have changed
u4n _ and it's just a year dreamcast is relased at 1998
I would have killed for this thing back in the day.
Slow down OJ.
Chris Johnson i still have one are you interested in ???
Tyrian Jukebox?
MMX?
1997?
Gateway 2000?
oh Clint, thanks for the nostalgia rush, and metric system weight ;)
Incredible how crazy was the obsolete process in 1995-2000 period
Today, a core 2 duo still work for everything (except gaming)
Throw XP and a GT740 on a C2D E8400 rig, and you could use it for 9x-era Win gaming, with DOS being handled by emulation. Actually, in most cases for 9x-era, that C2D would be a bit faster than the recommended specs quoted for most games of that era, with far more RAM when maxing it out to 4GB, which is the max 32-bit Windows, and consequently XP, will detect anyways.
As for the audio end when running DOSbox on that rig, since it would be running XP, you could use an old copy of Virtual SoundCanvas for GM/GS, run Munt to cover the MT-32, and then OPL3 can be handled internally by the emulator.
Actually I have a C2D E8600 and C2Q9650 for today gaming ;)
DOSbox is awesome for DOS games with no intense 3D graphics. never use MUNT, i will check it out ;)
But for old gaming, I have a P-III-500Mhz with a SBAWE64/Voodoo4 card, Win95/98SE/XP tri-boot OS.
and for a very old games, a 486 (AMD-x5-133mhz) with SB16/Cirrus Logic VGA.
If you can get a hold of some MT-32 or CM-32 ROMs, Munt is a pretty faithful emulation of the MT-32/CM-32/LAPC-I.
@@DFX4509B A C2D with a great video card will still play games pretty well. I am using an old Athlon X2 6400+ system that is slightly overclocked, and able to run WoW and Diablo 3 with the graphics settings maxed out running great over 45-60fps. I can run stuff like Crysis with graphics settings in the upper mid range - it still can work.
2:53 - Tyrian 2000 soundtrack!
Damn I thought I was the only person who played/loved that game.
My stepdad was working for Prodigy Internet tech support and was allowed to keep one of these when they were end of life. He re-built the laptop and gave it to me as my very first personally owned laptop. I managed to find a replacement battery on eBay was good to go enjoying Windows 95 and Doom on long car rides lol.
Cool video. I picked up a Gateway Solo 2500 at a garage sale for about 4 bucks.
i got a gateway solo 2550 with a pentium 3 450 mhz, 160 mb ram, 4mb silicon motion lynxem, ess maestro 2e, 80gb fujitsu hard drive partitioned to 20gb, running Windows 98 SE as it's main OS. I can't get SB Pro emulation to work though so i can't really play DOS games.
OHHHHH YEEESSS, Tyrian soundtrack
My favourite Shmup ever.
Apple is like
2019: no headphone jack
2020: no charger jack
2021: no phone
Edit(lol I didint know people like my stuff xd)
@@Noel-yh4xp oh did it??
Try 5 but it wasn't widely used and still isnt because it's not practical
@@rustyshackleford7265 wireless is the futur
Why is this more likes then usually get lol I only get one
@@Meinungsmacher and latency
@@FrederickdA every homeless can do that since the begining of days.
I had a Gateway 2000 desktop. I LOVED that computer so much. Had no issues playing any of the games I wanted to play.
"Rapid obsolescence." A fabulous combination of words hitherto unheard.
2GB storage. LOL
that's like one porn movie lol
Ming Y that was massive at that time. I had a station PC with only 1.2G storage.
That was a ridiculous amount of storage back then. I remember when we got a newer family computer in 2003, it had 1 gigabyte, and it blew my mind that we finally had a machine with the fabled gig of storage. Growing up in the 90s, 1 gigabyte was largely viewed as an impossibly large amount of storage, 2 GB in 1997 is insane.
Yeah and 80MB RAM
It's really not that small for 1997, you would think 22 years later we'd have 512 TB hard drives by now but no, Apple still sells 64 GB computers which is not that much for 22 years later IMO
I just found one of these beauties at a yard sale this morning. 10 bucks! It came with a CD-ROM drive, but no floppy drive.
Any idea where I could look to get a modular floppy drive for this thing?
E-Bay
@@cheddalan2475
Turns out that that was the ONLY place that I could find one, and I had to buy an entire extra 2100 to get it. Cost me $67, a far cry from what these were going for before this video came out (turns out my prior comment was more on the nose than I ever thought it would be), and it wasn't even complete!... or confirmed to be functional. I mean, if it is functional I have the means to get up and running, but I will be happy to at last have that FDD.
I've been wanting to use the 2200 I bought as a standalone word processor free of modern distractions, but the lack of a floppy drive made transferring files between machines or to cloud storage problematic; I have files on mine that I couldn't move and was reluctant to expand upon because I had no means to move them over!
The acer predator 21x of 1997.
Looks similar to a Toshiba Satellite I bought in 1997. I bought it in office depot for $800 since it was a floor demo but it still had the original price tag of $5000 or so. It was bulky and heavy but the sound and cd rom was something. I later sold it for $600 before going into the Army.
I simply love such videos!!!
Just eminates pure nostalgic feel!!!😊