I could do nothing but watch Clint restore vintage towers for hours. He's the Bob Ross of vintage computer restoration, there's something just so therapeudic about it.
IKR? I would totally love to watch him do an entire video talking like DukeNukem throughout the entire thing, nothing like releasing your testosterone through manly mannerisms, questionable innuendo, with a complete lack of civility, to touch and feel that sweet delicious vintage innards, to bring fourth classic nostalgia of computer-orgasmic proportions, while saying, "where is it?" As you begin to fondle the CR32 button to replace it, making the system happy. And when that 56X CDROM drive spins up, well, its just happy to see you, so much, it lost its gear!
Listening to Clint in a background tab really has the same vibe as having Bob Ross there. At times I half expect a _[Klang-a-Lang-a-Lang-a-Lang] "Beat the devil out of 'em."_ ....Then the Duke does a quick cameo, and I go "ahhh. That one also does the job".
This computer changed my life. It was my first computer that was just for me and not the rest of the family. My parents spent $3k for this back in the day and I remember feeling so guilty that they were putting out so much money for me. I used this computer for 5 years throughout highschool (1997-2001). Having my own PC gave me the freedom to experiment and learn computers, prompting my desire to go into computer science later in college. This machine holds a special place in my life and I'm so grateful my parents understood it's potential to shape my future.
Same buddy this machine started it all for me back in 1998, I upgraded it with a voodoo banshess as I could not get a voodoo 2 to work for the life of me. Comp Science graduate here as well, Im so glad to see this machine again :D
For the record: definitely not boring. You'll always run into troubles along the way, and the troubleshooting is satisfying, on top of seeing everything come together
come together, yets... except, not... right now. : ) I'm so ****ing impatient I'd have wanted to see that thing running in some form, as of power-on. Good thing LGR doesn't have my disposition.
@@keithbrown7685 To be fair, impatience has a place in this world too. Having less patient people around helps me stay grounded, and get things done. As I know I tend to be overly patient. : )
I may have built that PC! I worked at Gateway 2000 from 1995 till early 1998 in North Sioux City, SD. I hated those power buttons, they used to like to fall into the case if you pushed just a little to hard. As a workaround we used to put tape on the button so it would not fall out until the third party manufacturer fixed the design. That 'blank' fan was covered because this was a holdover design from the awful tower/desktop convertible case design released before this one. That is not the original HDD. It would have been a western digital caviar blue or orange. Any part that does not have a date code sticker on it is not original to the PC, other then RAM and CPU. ( you see it on the back of the sound card at the right of the label - 12/31/1997 and Power Supply on the right) Motherboard one would be located the last ISA slot on the bottom out of view. The CD-ROM would have been either Mitsumi, Panasonic or Toshiba depending on inventory that week. I think Video card in those were the AGP 4MB ATI 3D Rage cards...don't hold me to that. Those were the mid-tier sound cards of choice. Loved those cards, I still have a few. Sound Blaster was top tier or if we ran out of Ensoniq cards. Really cool to see an old friend of mine on your channel. Thanks for restoring it! I'm working a P-120 full tower from 1995.
Do you know if Gateway would have used Pioneer CD/DVD drives in their "Essential" full towers? This would have been in 2000 that I got my PC, so after you left. I have found the Pioneer drives date stamped to summer of '99 at the earliest.
@@MrWolfSnack - DVD drives were not really an option until about late 1998 if I recall. Heck, the Destination Big Screen system didn't even have an option for DVD drive when it first came out in 1996. But for the most part standard fair was x8 or x16 speed CD-ROMs for the Essential Systems.
Run of the mill machines like this are so interesting to see nowadays. Unlike rare or noteworthy ones, very few people bothered to keep these around so they've become rare in their own rite, it's like seeing an 80's Corolla still being maintained. Props to you for caring about these sorts of machines!
I actually bought back my old PC - not the same one but you know the same model - Gateway Essential high level tower. Let me tell you - it's not easy. Even with the original build sheet from 2000 it was hard finding all the parts. The 2008 financial crisis and the scrap drives of the time seen about 95% of vintage PC's erased from society.
I absolutely love your restoration videos! Even though this must've been a frustrating one, I just want you to know that your restoration videos are great!
Oh man, those hard drives have this very special kind of whine that only they make. It brings back so many memories of messing around on my computer _all night_ from like 4pm until 6am. After 14 hours straight of sitting in a small enclosed den listening to that whine, when I would finally shut it down and the noise stops, it's like releasing a vice from my head. It's like a pressure in your ears stops and it's relieving. You don't realize how loud and annoying it is until it goes away.
Yep, reminds me of leaving my computer on at night to download MP3's. I normally like the clucky and clunky noises that hard drives make, but those "whiney" drives I have never liked at all. Some were just like that from new...
44:48 - Definitely not boring. I wouldn't call it roof raising excitement but seeing things like this is always fascinating. These little time capsules deserve to be shared.
It's nothing special, it's just trying to clarify ATX power supply operation (modern power supply operation) to people who most likely never experienced it before, and are coming from physical "clunk" on / off switches from AT power supplies. This is an early P2 system, so this is right when motherboards first started supporting soft power buttons.
@@knuckles9250 no problem :) But it would be cool to see an LGR episode on power supply history, not everyone has experience with that era... It was confusing to people back then. If your computer locked up hitting the power button didn't do anything, you had to know to hold it to "reset" the computer and do a hard power off. Same with sleep mode, people were not used to computers going to sleep.
Oh man! A Pentium 2 Gateway with an AGP slot?! In 1997 I was in my mid teens, still rocking a NES and SNES and dreaming of getting a PlayStation. I knew just enough about PCs at the time to know that a machine like this would have stomped the PlayStation, and PC hardware was exploding in performance fast. I did get a used PlayStation in 1998, and it got a lot of use, and I forgot about PC gaming to be honest. Bought a brand new PS2, 6 months or so after its release. 2004, I built my first gaming rig. I have not bought a console since. My roommates and I do have an 1st generation PS3 with full backwards compatibility. We need to get it repaired/upgraded soon. That was the last of the truly good, stand alone consoles ever built in my opinion.
I worked for Gateway support back then, I remember having non-computer users go into their cases to replace parts. Or doing the "FDISK Format Reinstall doo-dah" (sung to the tune "Camptown Races"). The customers didn't hear it, but we needed some "fun" to take off the stress.
😂 LMAO just inputting the first lyrics to the song made my morning, I need to come up with the rest of that song , from one IT person to another, thanks for that
I worked at Gateway County for 4 years - Great times! Here is a new Odd-ware video: "Gateway GoBack" recovery tool? That was when Windows added System Restore to Windows....
Worked in corporate/executive support for years, then general a couple years after. The generic nature of these systems made them way easier to upgrade than the more bespoke systems that came after (I looking at you gateway 3250 where the motherboard WAS the riser card)
Great video, LGR. Brings back a lot of fond memories. I'm 39 now, but I grew up in the era of the first home PCs. I played a lot of Sim City 2000, Doom 1 and 2, Strife, Blood, Age of Empires 1 and 2, Command and Conquer Red Alert, Warcraft 1 and 2, Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft 1, Lode Runner the Legend Returns, King's Quest 6, Oregon Trail 2, The Dig, Myst, Riven, and many other games growing up on our home computer over those years up through high school. When I left home and moved to campus at university, that was the first time I had access to "high-speed" Internet with no dialup. That was in the Fall of 2002. That was incredible. I also had a brand new desktop to take with me during that time. It was during those years I got into WoW, which came out in 2004. That rig lasted me all through undergraduate, and even grad school after. By the time 2009 rolled around, that thing was ancient, but I was still using it to get things done. I finally upgraded with a new rig in 2010. My guildmates in WoW were very happy about that, especially since I was the guild master and raid leader. Ha! I finally hung up my WoW hat in June of 2022 due to various reasons. Anyways, thank you for making these videos. They are very special.
If you look at the video from Clint's friend who he mentioned at the beginning, the guy in that video says it was a longtime collector who decided it was time to stop collecting and just gave it all away. They were entirely all Gateway equipment so I'm sure the guy made a themed rig or fully kitted it out. I'm doing the same thing with a spare tower I have.
This is my favorite type of video - an average (or below-) computer is what most of us would have experienced back in the day. Seeing it come to life, solving its problems, and upgrading it - all 100% relatable and pure good feeling. Can't get enough of this type of video.
Yup to those who are thinking of repasting a slot 1/A CPU BEWARE. Those P2s and Athlon As of the time used an identical horrible plastic clip on mechanism that once its on, its a bit of a destructive way in, you have to go in the bottom with a metal flathead, plastic tools snap, catch or get ruined, then you can ride the sides with a guitar pick, the later pentium 3s were much easier with the bracket you could slide off. The paste has long pushed out and is usually this pink putty that has hardened. Sadly with the athlons of the thunderbird variety like my 900A, its best to get a graphite sheet so you can set and forget as they do run hot as the thermal diodes are in random places and aren't directly comparable between models.Thankfully if you don't care about looks the damage is able to be hidden, the metal clips will put up a fight aswell. Its probably best on higher spec models but sucks on a higher Sku/value offering to get in so brutally. if you haven't at this point decided to just get a P3 anyway, to do a backplate mod, but at that point its just a slower P2 in a P3 cooling assembly so..yeah, not a good design at all.
I got my second computer for Christmas in 1997. I went from an IBM PS/1 to a G6-233. It's when my love for computers became solidified. It's when I began gaming online for the first time. Join gaming clans. Countless nights hanging out on Kali and playing Descent and Descent 2. Learning to sail the seven seas using ftp and mIRC. It's when console emulation as we know it really hit the accelerator. Then, one year later, added in a 3Dfx Voodoo2 and experience one of the most significant leaps forward in computer technology ever. Learning how to play fps games when mouse and keyboard control was practically a new concept. So much of who I am and what I enjoy are centered around my memories made on that Gateway 2000 G6-233.
Absolutely not a boring video! Retro builds, restorations, or just looks back at bland machines are always my favourite LGR videos, especially when they're in the ballpark of an hour long. Machines like this would most likely be totally forgotten about otherwise
Not boring at all, these are so comfy to watch and listen. Normally I would find these types of "why is it not working, god do I have to unscrew the WHOLE THING" situations very stressful, but there's something so comforting and enjoyable about you being curious and so knowledged and just figuring things out. You have a love for these machines, and we love them through you.
Not a boring video at all. I love these longer restoration videos. You're doing important preservation work on a part of computing history that is special to many of us. Thank you!
I've always enjoyed your videos on random PCs, I try to refrain from filling my house with old PCs but at least these videos scratches my itch to try fool around with slightly different hardware to what I already have. Please keep making them!
These are my favorite type of videos that you make! Sometimes I'll just have the playlist of all of your restoration vids on while I work, and the "average PC" ones are my favorite. These are what most people had so they're fun to go back to.
I watched all the way to the end and I’ll tell you right now, this scratches a nostalgia itch I didn’t realize I had! Thank you so much for making these videos!
As a guy that tends to watch everything with captions on, thank you for putting the little jokes and such for the sounds. It's the little things like that which have always kept me here.
I love your computer hardware videos, including this one! Your series on building a 486 is one of my favorite things on your channel so I hope you keep doing more of this type. I understand if they don’t get enough views to be worth making though.
Not all IDE cables worked for Cable Select. The newer 80-conductor UDMA4/Ultra ATA 66 cables should always work. Most 40-conductor cables (as that machine has) needed to be modified for Cable Select to work, the conductor for pin 28 to be cut between the two drive connectors (so one sees pin 28 grounded & becomes master, the other isn't grounded & becomes slave). Although Cable Select drives were the norm, ready-made cables which supported CS were rare - I never came across one. This caused a lot of problems back in the day, troubleshooting 'dead' drives which in reality were just set to CS but connected with a standard cable (as provided with the drive).
These are my favorite types of videos. The average computers of the 1990s will always be my favorite. Please make more of them just restoring and cleaning.
Buddy, not boring. Entertaining and informative. I just picked up a gateway 400c (and an ibm 5170 with a 5153 monitor AND a mystery 486 with a turbo button and megahertz display) and I've run into a similar issue running direct 3d games but sim city 3000 works just fine. I actually just purchased a geforce mx 400 hoping that would fix my issue but now im confident it will after seeing your own experience with the same kind of thing. If anyone was curious my issue was sim theme park freeze in exactly the same way and i suspended this old ati (128?) was the issue since software rendering ran fine even though it was slow. But definitely keep it up man, also thanks for the inspiration you gave me to start my own collection!
My grandparents bought a Gateway 2000 in the late 90s or early 2000s (IIRC, it had a Pentium III), and just kept using it for the rest of their lives. I remember playing Runescape on it, and waiting for an hour or so to load up my first ever RUclips video (which was probably only a few minutes - it's private now, so you guys can't see it 😛) to show them over their dial up connection.
I love the restoration and build videos. They're some of my favourite LGR vids and that's coming from somebody who's been here since this was entirely a game review channel
There isn’t a day that goes by where I don’t long for the ninety’s. In my home town there was a gateway store within a mile of a comp USA. Even though they are long since gone I Still get the fun feelings of fresh electronics, computers and big box software while driving by where they once were.
Do you think people will be nostalgic for ‘modern games’? Idk, there’s a lot less charm with battle passes and microtransaction filled gambling simulators but maybe they will look back on it and think it was quaint lol
I think there will be highlights that shine through all of the crap that comes out. Cyberpunk 2077, for an example, will be remembered fondly for quite some time. But all of the live service style games will likely be unplayable anyway when those companies turn the servers off or go under. It will be really difficult to preserve, if they're able to at all. @@chasesmay7237
These are never boring. Digging into something old and in need of love is my ideal way to spend some downtime. Alas, I'm a college student and also working full time, so I never seem to have room in my schedule to do things like this anymore. I take comfort knowing I can live vicariously for an hour or so watching someone else do it while I try to power through. I appreciate you, and I appreciate these videos!
This was an amazing trip down memory lane. This was my family's first computer. Where I learned about PC games, the internet, etc. It was also the first computer I ever took apart to look at what was inside. Thanks for this!
This exact model was my FIRST PC, I have fond memories playing UT, Quake on it among others. Mine came with 32mb RAM and I remember upgrading it with a Voodoo Banshee since a VooDoo 2 would not work IRQ conflict or something.. Great video brings back a lot of memories of me sitting on the phone with Gateway tech support and them walking me through re-installing the operating system with the included restore CDs. Also mine had a 18" CRT monitor I loved this machine and still have it in my attic lol. When it first came it included a CD version of Encarta and MS office and windows 95 great video my friend :) It also came with RedLine Racer, Monster Truck Madness and a game called G-Police :)
I rebuilt and upgraded many of these after they had finished their work like in the office i was working on, then we gave them away to employees as their first home computer in late 90's. Strangely though I always thought they were just a UK brand? Obviously not. Pretty sure most of ours were branded just "Gateway".
That intro was single handedly the most adorable and most horrific thing you've ever done, thank you. That was truely an unsettling combination of enthusiasm, obsession, and a complete loss of sanity.
You're not boring, and I like your box opener videos just as much as your reviews. These are somehow comforting and calming, nostalgic and you have the perfect listenable voice.
these restoration vids are probably my favorite thing you do. it brings me joy seeing these well-loved computers from a bygone era getting a new life. makes me wish i still had my childhood gateway pc that ran windows 2000 on it haha
What a coincidence. I saw a Gateway desktop at a Goodwill outlet today! I think it had a Celeron processor and windows 98. This video is making me want to go back and grab it.
Aw man... NFS4 High Stakes was always my favorite NFS game-- NFS III was fun cuz you could mod it so easily and make it do silly things, but NFS 4 was just more polished. I remember downloading Super Heavy Bus and just flying around the tracks blowing other cars off the road. The replay mode made it almost infinitely replay-able, and I got a LOT of laughs from the crazy stuff we did.
Clint, these videos are not boring! These are easily my favourite videos of yours, please continue to return to this style. I usually save them for a relaxed Saturday morning and it goes perfect with a warm cuppa.
90's/00's desktops were like the wild west. You never knew what you were going to get. The internet was much the same, at the time. Not just ruled by a handful of tech giants.
_"Not just ruled by a handful of tech giants."_ ...and a handful of banks (and/or Financial Conglomerations). Maestro/MasterCard don't want to be affiliated with one service(sector) or another?... (non-US people) Won't even get to pay for that service. Something-something Monopolization, Something something Cartel Formation. I'm done griping, now 😁 I miss the 00's internet.
They were easy to work with and to put together or to take apart in the old days.. Compared to todays custom parts, very "clunky" B IG.. , where it can be inconvenient; harder for some parts to work together with, not enough space, etc.
Dang it ! This reminds me of the lost weekends reinstalling Windows 95 and drivers just to get everything working again. The pain, the pleasure and the memories. Takes me back.
There's pretty much no point in messing with the thermal paste on an old P2 or P3 anyways, they didn't run hot and didn't dissipate the heat that a modern high end CPU does.
These aren't boring at all, I enjoy seeing weird 90s PCs, especially since I like to pick up old computers at auction and clean them up to ebay, so other people can enjoy them.
And thus, Billy's Gateway Curse has been passed on to you. If you haven't seen the videos of him restoring the other computers he got, buckle up; he experienced so many different problems on all of them.
At the time Gateway was competing with Dell. They were trying to get regular customers as well as regular business contract similar to what Dell now. Nvidia tnt2 is quite nice at the time. 128MB is also quite an update as that is a requirement for games later on (1998+)
I absolutely love this video. It does not have to be a unicorn machine that nobody actually got to use back in the day. This machine resembles so much the first setup I had as a kid. After watching your video, I really want to collect one high tower old school machine for my home.
Ah, nostalgia. Hearing that high-speed CD-ROM drive speed up like a turbine, knowing it was about to spew some gaming goodness onto your hard drive at unbelievable (for the time) speeds.
I like your attitude towards these machines. I think we all got into retro because of the famous parts that we wanted to have back then or landmark machines that were before our time. But there is a point (and the prices for retro stuff help) where we start to think about what we had back then and so what it could do, maybe more than we thought back then or didn't have the maturity to understand. My "collection" is quite a scrapyard made up from many such machines. And I am looking forward to giving each of them a refurbishment and a purpose. be it an OS/2 machine, a graphics and publishing thing. a pure games machine. The 90's especially the late 90's were also a time where these machines passed us by, often being obsolete after just 9 or 10 months, so revisiting them often enhances that brief moment in time that we shared with them back then.
I did a similar upgrade of my first PC back then. I had (& still have) a Pentium II 350 MHz, 64 MB SDRAM, integrated NVidia Riva 128ZX (8MB), Win98, 8.6GB HDD. I upgraded as the years passed, with 256MB SDRAM, Nvidia Geforce 2 MX 64MB (PCI, no AGP slot😔), Windows XP and a Pentium III 450 MHz (Slot 1). I used it until 2007, when i built my first PC.
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I could do nothing but watch Clint restore vintage towers for hours. He's the Bob Ross of vintage computer restoration, there's something just so therapeudic about it.
You are not wrong buddy!
IKR? I would totally love to watch him do an entire video talking like DukeNukem throughout the entire thing, nothing like releasing your testosterone through manly mannerisms, questionable innuendo, with a complete lack of civility, to touch and feel that sweet delicious vintage innards, to bring fourth classic nostalgia of computer-orgasmic proportions, while saying, "where is it?" As you begin to fondle the CR32 button to replace it, making the system happy. And when that 56X CDROM drive spins up, well, its just happy to see you, so much, it lost its gear!
For real. I'd watch this man do anything
Listening to Clint in a background tab really has the same vibe as having Bob Ross there.
At times I half expect a _[Klang-a-Lang-a-Lang-a-Lang] "Beat the devil out of 'em."_ ....Then the Duke does a quick cameo, and I go "ahhh. That one also does the job".
Just going to pop in some happy little RAM, right there.
This computer changed my life. It was my first computer that was just for me and not the rest of the family. My parents spent $3k for this back in the day and I remember feeling so guilty that they were putting out so much money for me. I used this computer for 5 years throughout highschool (1997-2001). Having my own PC gave me the freedom to experiment and learn computers, prompting my desire to go into computer science later in college. This machine holds a special place in my life and I'm so grateful my parents understood it's potential to shape my future.
@@mattstone8878that's where the poo belongs
What did i just read@@mattstone8878
Same buddy this machine started it all for me back in 1998, I upgraded it with a voodoo banshess as I could not get a voodoo 2 to work for the life of me. Comp Science graduate here as well, Im so glad to see this machine again :D
Ha! I just got done posting a comment similar to this! ALSO a CS graduate!
Same 😅
For the record: definitely not boring. You'll always run into troubles along the way, and the troubleshooting is satisfying, on top of seeing everything come together
Agreed. The trials and troubles along the way make this the restoration journey it is. Always enjoy one of these vids.
And even if you get lucky and don't have any trouble with the machine, it's still satisfying
As a wise man said, once;
I love it when a plan comes together
come together, yets... except, not... right now. : ) I'm so ****ing impatient I'd have wanted to see that thing running in some form, as of power-on. Good thing LGR doesn't have my disposition.
@@keithbrown7685 To be fair, impatience has a place in this world too. Having less patient people around helps me stay grounded, and get things done. As I know I tend to be overly patient. : )
"PC beeps twice with concern" those subtitles are worth keeping on
note farts balls farts is a valid windows 95 cd key🤣🤣🤣
they are original LGR subtitles, so it's basically part of the experience.
"MMX-compatible jazz music plays" - always good to have the captions!
I may have built that PC! I worked at Gateway 2000 from 1995 till early 1998 in North Sioux City, SD.
I hated those power buttons, they used to like to fall into the case if you pushed just a little to hard. As a workaround we used to put tape on the button so it would not fall out until the third party manufacturer fixed the design.
That 'blank' fan was covered because this was a holdover design from the awful tower/desktop convertible case design released before this one.
That is not the original HDD. It would have been a western digital caviar blue or orange.
Any part that does not have a date code sticker on it is not original to the PC, other then RAM and CPU. ( you see it on the back of the sound card at the right of the label - 12/31/1997 and Power Supply on the right) Motherboard one would be located the last ISA slot on the bottom out of view.
The CD-ROM would have been either Mitsumi, Panasonic or Toshiba depending on inventory that week.
I think Video card in those were the AGP 4MB ATI 3D Rage cards...don't hold me to that.
Those were the mid-tier sound cards of choice. Loved those cards, I still have a few. Sound Blaster was top tier or if we ran out of Ensoniq cards.
Really cool to see an old friend of mine on your channel. Thanks for restoring it! I'm working a P-120 full tower from 1995.
Do you know if Gateway would have used Pioneer CD/DVD drives in their "Essential" full towers? This would have been in 2000 that I got my PC, so after you left. I have found the Pioneer drives date stamped to summer of '99 at the earliest.
@@MrWolfSnack - DVD drives were not really an option until about late 1998 if I recall. Heck, the Destination Big Screen system didn't even have an option for DVD drive when it first came out in 1996. But for the most part standard fair was x8 or x16 speed CD-ROMs for the Essential Systems.
ahhh the mid-tier beige box, truly the height of nostalgia for a large amount of us
I worked for IBM during that period and I got to calling that color "power beige".
@@JeffDeWitt Sounds like the kind of colour StrongBad would like for his computer type objects.
It's not quite nostalgia for me. Such computers have starred in some of my nightmares. : )
Run of the mill machines like this are so interesting to see nowadays. Unlike rare or noteworthy ones, very few people bothered to keep these around so they've become rare in their own rite, it's like seeing an 80's Corolla still being maintained. Props to you for caring about these sorts of machines!
I actually bought back my old PC - not the same one but you know the same model - Gateway Essential high level tower. Let me tell you - it's not easy. Even with the original build sheet from 2000 it was hard finding all the parts. The 2008 financial crisis and the scrap drives of the time seen about 95% of vintage PC's erased from society.
I LOVE that in the subtitles it says “PC Plops down”
"Unsponsored screwdriver unscrewing"
At the beginning "[MMX-compatible jazz music plays]"
the subtitles on LGR are always gold
You're definitely missing a lot in LGR videos if you don't have subtitles on!
@@FluffyTheGryphonI love that one of my recommended videos today is "Retro Computing Enthusiasts are Masochists"
that organic fps drop with resonance cascade in hl1 is just pure nostalgia
That transition to a stationary camera at 9:25 was just like the transition when sitting down to a computer in a 90's adventure game!
I absolutely love your restoration videos! Even though this must've been a frustrating one, I just want you to know that your restoration videos are great!
Thanks!
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Oh man, those hard drives have this very special kind of whine that only they make. It brings back so many memories of messing around on my computer _all night_ from like 4pm until 6am. After 14 hours straight of sitting in a small enclosed den listening to that whine, when I would finally shut it down and the noise stops, it's like releasing a vice from my head. It's like a pressure in your ears stops and it's relieving. You don't realize how loud and annoying it is until it goes away.
Yep, reminds me of leaving my computer on at night to download MP3's.
I normally like the clucky and clunky noises that hard drives make, but those "whiney" drives I have never liked at all. Some were just like that from new...
Kindof like an in-law.
44:48 - Definitely not boring. I wouldn't call it roof raising excitement but seeing things like this is always fascinating. These little time capsules deserve to be shared.
That power button deserves its own episode of LGR oddware
Nothing like a classic LGR old PC video
Now that would be a powerful episode.
It's nothing special, it's just trying to clarify ATX power supply operation (modern power supply operation) to people who most likely never experienced it before, and are coming from physical "clunk" on / off switches from AT power supplies.
This is an early P2 system, so this is right when motherboards first started supporting soft power buttons.
Hehe 👍
@@volvo09 thanks for explaining it for me!
@@knuckles9250 no problem :)
But it would be cool to see an LGR episode on power supply history, not everyone has experience with that era... It was confusing to people back then. If your computer locked up hitting the power button didn't do anything, you had to know to hold it to "reset" the computer and do a hard power off.
Same with sleep mode, people were not used to computers going to sleep.
Oh man! A Pentium 2 Gateway with an AGP slot?! In 1997 I was in my mid teens, still rocking a NES and SNES and dreaming of getting a PlayStation. I knew just enough about PCs at the time to know that a machine like this would have stomped the PlayStation, and PC hardware was exploding in performance fast. I did get a used PlayStation in 1998, and it got a lot of use, and I forgot about PC gaming to be honest. Bought a brand new PS2, 6 months or so after its release. 2004, I built my first gaming rig. I have not bought a console since. My roommates and I do have an 1st generation PS3 with full backwards compatibility. We need to get it repaired/upgraded soon. That was the last of the truly good, stand alone consoles ever built in my opinion.
k. your launch ps3 cannot be fixed. its a problem.
I worked for Gateway support back then, I remember having non-computer users go into their cases to replace parts. Or doing the "FDISK Format Reinstall doo-dah" (sung to the tune "Camptown Races"). The customers didn't hear it, but we needed some "fun" to take off the stress.
😂 LMAO just inputting the first lyrics to the song made my morning, I need to come up with the rest of that song , from one IT person to another, thanks for that
I worked at Gateway County for 4 years - Great times! Here is a new Odd-ware video: "Gateway GoBack" recovery tool? That was when Windows added System Restore to Windows....
Yes and it resulted in countless hours spent on the phone with Gateway support when I was 14 years old. Fun times indeed and completely my fault.
@@megashilba Maybe something like...
FDISK Format Reinstall! doo-dah, doo-dah
Windows doesn't work at all, oh the doo-dah day.
Worked in corporate/executive support for years, then general a couple years after. The generic nature of these systems made them way easier to upgrade than the more bespoke systems that came after (I looking at you gateway 3250 where the motherboard WAS the riser card)
omg the Red Alert sounds were such a massive hit of nostalgia - I need to play that game again
Restorations are my absolute favorite of your videos. Pure comfort food.
Great video, LGR. Brings back a lot of fond memories. I'm 39 now, but I grew up in the era of the first home PCs. I played a lot of Sim City 2000, Doom 1 and 2, Strife, Blood, Age of Empires 1 and 2, Command and Conquer Red Alert, Warcraft 1 and 2, Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft 1, Lode Runner the Legend Returns, King's Quest 6, Oregon Trail 2, The Dig, Myst, Riven, and many other games growing up on our home computer over those years up through high school. When I left home and moved to campus at university, that was the first time I had access to "high-speed" Internet with no dialup. That was in the Fall of 2002. That was incredible. I also had a brand new desktop to take with me during that time. It was during those years I got into WoW, which came out in 2004. That rig lasted me all through undergraduate, and even grad school after. By the time 2009 rolled around, that thing was ancient, but I was still using it to get things done. I finally upgraded with a new rig in 2010. My guildmates in WoW were very happy about that, especially since I was the guild master and raid leader. Ha! I finally hung up my WoW hat in June of 2022 due to various reasons. Anyways, thank you for making these videos. They are very special.
Someone loved this PC, given all the upgrades.
I'm betting many games of TombRaider and Quake 1 & 2 were played on this bad boy.
If you look at the video from Clint's friend who he mentioned at the beginning, the guy in that video says it was a longtime collector who decided it was time to stop collecting and just gave it all away. They were entirely all Gateway equipment so I'm sure the guy made a themed rig or fully kitted it out. I'm doing the same thing with a spare tower I have.
Boring? Dude, that is like one of THE reasons why I watch your channel! Keep 'em coming!
This is my favorite type of video - an average (or below-) computer is what most of us would have experienced back in the day. Seeing it come to life, solving its problems, and upgrading it - all 100% relatable and pure good feeling. Can't get enough of this type of video.
Yup to those who are thinking of repasting a slot 1/A CPU BEWARE. Those P2s and Athlon As of the time used an identical horrible plastic clip on mechanism that once its on, its a bit of a destructive way in, you have to go in the bottom with a metal flathead, plastic tools snap, catch or get ruined, then you can ride the sides with a guitar pick, the later pentium 3s were much easier with the bracket you could slide off. The paste has long pushed out and is usually this pink putty that has hardened. Sadly with the athlons of the thunderbird variety like my 900A, its best to get a graphite sheet so you can set and forget as they do run hot as the thermal diodes are in random places and aren't directly comparable between models.Thankfully if you don't care about looks the damage is able to be hidden, the metal clips will put up a fight aswell. Its probably best on higher spec models but sucks on a higher Sku/value offering to get in so brutally. if you haven't at this point decided to just get a P3 anyway, to do a backplate mod, but at that point its just a slower P2 in a P3 cooling assembly so..yeah, not a good design at all.
I got my second computer for Christmas in 1997. I went from an IBM PS/1 to a G6-233. It's when my love for computers became solidified. It's when I began gaming online for the first time. Join gaming clans. Countless nights hanging out on Kali and playing Descent and Descent 2. Learning to sail the seven seas using ftp and mIRC. It's when console emulation as we know it really hit the accelerator. Then, one year later, added in a 3Dfx Voodoo2 and experience one of the most significant leaps forward in computer technology ever. Learning how to play fps games when mouse and keyboard control was practically a new concept. So much of who I am and what I enjoy are centered around my memories made on that Gateway 2000 G6-233.
Absolutely not a boring video! Retro builds, restorations, or just looks back at bland machines are always my favourite LGR videos, especially when they're in the ballpark of an hour long. Machines like this would most likely be totally forgotten about otherwise
Great stuff!
Those biscuit tin snares on the 4MB wavetable were hilarious.
Perfect description 😁
It's like the tinny version of the St Anger snare on that one Metallica album.
@@rommix0Does your lifestyle determine your death style ?
@@rommix0 You live it or lie it, you live it or lie it !
Keep searching, keep on searching
This search goes on, this search goes on
Not boring at all, these are so comfy to watch and listen. Normally I would find these types of "why is it not working, god do I have to unscrew the WHOLE THING" situations very stressful, but there's something so comforting and enjoyable about you being curious and so knowledged and just figuring things out. You have a love for these machines, and we love them through you.
Not a boring video at all. I love these longer restoration videos. You're doing important preservation work on a part of computing history that is special to many of us. Thank you!
I've never seen a processor like this before....I learned something today
It's been SO long since we've had a computer restoration video from LGR. I miss these.
I've always enjoyed your videos on random PCs, I try to refrain from filling my house with old PCs but at least these videos scratches my itch to try fool around with slightly different hardware to what I already have. Please keep making them!
These are my favorite type of videos that you make! Sometimes I'll just have the playlist of all of your restoration vids on while I work, and the "average PC" ones are my favorite. These are what most people had so they're fun to go back to.
I watched all the way to the end and I’ll tell you right now, this scratches a nostalgia itch I didn’t realize I had! Thank you so much for making these videos!
As always in our hobby, "a silly series of flubbs" does tend to lead into "a silly series of [swears]." I love these old Gateway 2k machines.
2:38 "Why not just put more buttons"
I feel this way about everything. Especially modern cars.
These videos of these fantastic machines are a pleasure for the eyes. show for nostalgic old people like me🤩
As a guy that tends to watch everything with captions on, thank you for putting the little jokes and such for the sounds. It's the little things like that which have always kept me here.
Very durable and quiet case BTW. Used one till mid 2010-s. Just milled back panel a bit to fit modern motherboards and PSU.
The nostalgia ... I played so much Red Alert on a similar (less pricey) machine - thanks for showing us this!
I can hear Hell March playing right now.
My dear LGR, I was waiting for a video of this kind for ages. Thank you and bring mooooore
I love your computer hardware videos, including this one! Your series on building a 486 is one of my favorite things on your channel so I hope you keep doing more of this type. I understand if they don’t get enough views to be worth making though.
I'm 99 percent sure this is the exact computer I have in my basement, It's really wild to see it get a dedicated video like this lol.
This form factor was my first PC. Saved up $2000+ from my paper route for a whole year to buy this thing. Came with POD. I was addicted!
Not all IDE cables worked for Cable Select. The newer 80-conductor UDMA4/Ultra ATA 66 cables should always work. Most 40-conductor cables (as that machine has) needed to be modified for Cable Select to work, the conductor for pin 28 to be cut between the two drive connectors (so one sees pin 28 grounded & becomes master, the other isn't grounded & becomes slave). Although Cable Select drives were the norm, ready-made cables which supported CS were rare - I never came across one.
This caused a lot of problems back in the day, troubleshooting 'dead' drives which in reality were just set to CS but connected with a standard cable (as provided with the drive).
now that is a useful comment, always suspected that but didnt know!
@@Lordogre420 Thank you, glad it was helpful.
These are my favorite types of videos. The average computers of the 1990s will always be my favorite. Please make more of them just restoring and cleaning.
A restoration video, and from my favourite era of computers too? Christmas has come early! AND it’s 40 minutes long to boot!
Buddy, not boring. Entertaining and informative. I just picked up a gateway 400c (and an ibm 5170 with a 5153 monitor AND a mystery 486 with a turbo button and megahertz display) and I've run into a similar issue running direct 3d games but sim city 3000 works just fine. I actually just purchased a geforce mx 400 hoping that would fix my issue but now im confident it will after seeing your own experience with the same kind of thing. If anyone was curious my issue was sim theme park freeze in exactly the same way and i suspended this old ati (128?) was the issue since software rendering ran fine even though it was slow. But definitely keep it up man, also thanks for the inspiration you gave me to start my own collection!
These system restoration videos are my favorite content of what You put out, so personally I’d love to see them continue 🙏
This was my first PC. Quite a trip down memory lane for me seeing this.
My grandparents bought a Gateway 2000 in the late 90s or early 2000s (IIRC, it had a Pentium III), and just kept using it for the rest of their lives. I remember playing Runescape on it, and waiting for an hour or so to load up my first ever RUclips video (which was probably only a few minutes - it's private now, so you guys can't see it 😛) to show them over their dial up connection.
I love the restoration and build videos. They're some of my favourite LGR vids and that's coming from somebody who's been here since this was entirely a game review channel
Thanks for another fasinating 90's PC restoration Clint! I always look forward to an LGR video to break up the Friday work schedule :)
I enjoy these restoration videos! Thank you for making them!
There isn’t a day that goes by where I don’t long for the ninety’s. In my home town there was a gateway store within a mile of a comp USA.
Even though they are long since gone I Still get the fun feelings of fresh electronics, computers and big box software while driving by where they once were.
I adore these kinds of videos. It’s so soothing listening to the music and your voice as you explore and troubleshoot old PCs.
now THIS is the Friday content I love.
LGR, MIKETECH and RETRORECALL are my favourite Retro PC channels.
This Does Not Compute as well.
No 8 bit guy? 😮
Red Alert! I'm always happy to see this selected as a piece of test software in LGR episodes. C&C is my jam.
Clint, I just wanted to say I appreciate the work you put into the captioning on your videos!
Glad to hear it!
...this is what im talking about. This is why I love this channel. Thank you and I need more of this exact content. PLEASE
imagine its 2077. grandpa LGR builds an ultra old school RTX4090 rig with windows 11.
Do you think people will be nostalgic for ‘modern games’? Idk, there’s a lot less charm with battle passes and microtransaction filled gambling simulators but maybe they will look back on it and think it was quaint lol
@@chasesmay7237it might depend on how much worse the future is (:
That’s if the world doesn’t end in nuclear annihilation that year..
I think there will be highlights that shine through all of the crap that comes out. Cyberpunk 2077, for an example, will be remembered fondly for quite some time. But all of the live service style games will likely be unplayable anyway when those companies turn the servers off or go under. It will be really difficult to preserve, if they're able to at all. @@chasesmay7237
@@razgar02If your comment doesn't scream 2020s doomerism, I don't know what else to say.
These are never boring. Digging into something old and in need of love is my ideal way to spend some downtime. Alas, I'm a college student and also working full time, so I never seem to have room in my schedule to do things like this anymore. I take comfort knowing I can live vicariously for an hour or so watching someone else do it while I try to power through. I appreciate you, and I appreciate these videos!
Clint, gotta compliment you on better footage cutting. Editing is evolving which is nice. Video is more engaging because of it, keep it up.
Thanks, glad to hear that!
This was an amazing trip down memory lane. This was my family's first computer. Where I learned about PC games, the internet, etc. It was also the first computer I ever took apart to look at what was inside.
Thanks for this!
great way to start the friday, I've got a gateway of my own!
Danke!
Thank you for time travel !
My pleasure, thank you for the support!
This exact model was my FIRST PC, I have fond memories playing UT, Quake on it among others. Mine came with 32mb RAM and I remember upgrading it with a Voodoo Banshee since a VooDoo 2 would not work IRQ conflict or something.. Great video brings back a lot of memories of me sitting on the phone with Gateway tech support and them walking me through re-installing the operating system with the included restore CDs. Also mine had a 18" CRT monitor I loved this machine and still have it in my attic lol. When it first came it included a CD version of Encarta and MS office and windows 95 great video my friend :) It also came with RedLine Racer, Monster Truck Madness and a game called G-Police :)
Coziness overflow.
The opposite of boring. Goes perfectly well with some hot black coffee. Thanks, man. Cheers!
I remember that Gateway used to have their own branded stores, there was even one here in Perth Western Australia.
Yep, the Gateway Country stores.
There was a Gateway store in Liffey Valley shopping mall County Dublin in the year 2000 !
The first LGR videos I ever watched were PC teardown and restoration videos, and I enjoyed them very much. Thanks again, Clint!
I remember my first vid by lgr, it might have been almost 10 years ago. Now.
I rebuilt and upgraded many of these after they had finished their work like in the office i was working on, then we gave them away to employees as their first home computer in late 90's.
Strangely though I always thought they were just a UK brand? Obviously not. Pretty sure most of ours were branded just "Gateway".
This kind of comfy restoration video is a perfect way to start weekend because LGR's videos get released during Friday evening in my time zone.
ive said it before, ill say it again - this is the best type of LGR content!
Oh man, these are the videos I missed so much. You absolutely made my day!
That intro was single handedly the most adorable and most horrific thing you've ever done, thank you. That was truely an unsettling combination of enthusiasm, obsession, and a complete loss of sanity.
You're not boring, and I like your box opener videos just as much as your reviews. These are somehow comforting and calming, nostalgic and you have the perfect listenable voice.
I remember walking into the Gateway store for the 1st family computer. Still have it too.
these restoration vids are probably my favorite thing you do. it brings me joy seeing these well-loved computers from a bygone era getting a new life. makes me wish i still had my childhood gateway pc that ran windows 2000 on it haha
Billy is great. I really enjoy his channel, the nostalgia mall too
What a coincidence. I saw a Gateway desktop at a Goodwill outlet today! I think it had a Celeron processor and windows 98. This video is making me want to go back and grab it.
You should, they’re solid machines!
@@LGR happy to report they still had it. And it’s in pretty good shape from what I can tell. Just dusty lol
Aw man... NFS4 High Stakes was always my favorite NFS game-- NFS III was fun cuz you could mod it so easily and make it do silly things, but NFS 4 was just more polished. I remember downloading Super Heavy Bus and just flying around the tracks blowing other cars off the road. The replay mode made it almost infinitely replay-able, and I got a LOT of laughs from the crazy stuff we did.
Clint, these videos are not boring! These are easily my favourite videos of yours, please continue to return to this style. I usually save them for a relaxed Saturday morning and it goes perfect with a warm cuppa.
90's/00's desktops were like the wild west. You never knew what you were going to get. The internet was much the same, at the time. Not just ruled by a handful of tech giants.
_"Not just ruled by a handful of tech giants."_
...and a handful of banks (and/or Financial Conglomerations).
Maestro/MasterCard don't want to be affiliated with one service(sector) or another?... (non-US people) Won't even get to pay for that service.
Something-something Monopolization, Something something Cartel Formation.
I'm done griping, now 😁
I miss the 00's internet.
"You never knew what you were going to get."
Aaah, yes. "Am I going to regret clicking on that link ?"
They were easy to work with and to put together or to take apart in the old days.. Compared to todays custom parts, very "clunky" B IG.. , where it can be inconvenient; harder for some parts to work together with, not enough space, etc.
I actually served in the sound wars under General Midi. Good to see he's being recognized!
Dang it ! This reminds me of the lost weekends reinstalling Windows 95 and drivers just to get everything working again. The pain, the pleasure and the memories. Takes me back.
I've owned that exact CPU before, and those are rivets not screws. You'll have to drill them out, or just leave them be
There's pretty much no point in messing with the thermal paste on an old P2 or P3 anyways, they didn't run hot and didn't dissipate the heat that a modern high end CPU does.
These aren't boring at all, I enjoy seeing weird 90s PCs, especially since I like to pick up old computers at auction and clean them up to ebay, so other people can enjoy them.
And thus, Billy's Gateway Curse has been passed on to you. If you haven't seen the videos of him restoring the other computers he got, buckle up; he experienced so many different problems on all of them.
Man you're content is my life during the 90s....
At the time Gateway was competing with Dell. They were trying to get regular customers as well as regular business contract similar to what Dell now. Nvidia tnt2 is quite nice at the time. 128MB is also quite an update as that is a requirement for games later on (1998+)
I just made a comment that ties into this. I wish Gateway had come out on top. I do not like Dell.
I absolutely love this video. It does not have to be a unicorn machine that nobody actually got to use back in the day. This machine resembles so much the first setup I had as a kid. After watching your video, I really want to collect one high tower old school machine for my home.
Ah, nostalgia. Hearing that high-speed CD-ROM drive speed up like a turbine, knowing it was about to spew some gaming goodness onto your hard drive at unbelievable (for the time) speeds.
At the time people said that if they went beyond 56x the CD would disintegrate due to centrifugal forces.
Great video, i watched all the way to the end. Clint is one of if not the best narrator on yt.
Clint, is that your storage room or a Micro Center?
FOR REAL
This was not boring at all your pc build/restoration videos are some of my favorites
I agree Clint, Pod in software mode has a nice crusty style to it. Gives me PS1 vibes
I like your attitude towards these machines. I think we all got into retro because of the famous parts that we wanted to have back then or landmark machines that were before our time. But there is a point (and the prices for retro stuff help) where we start to think about what we had back then and so what it could do, maybe more than we thought back then or didn't have the maturity to understand.
My "collection" is quite a scrapyard made up from many such machines. And I am looking forward to giving each of them a refurbishment and a purpose. be it an OS/2 machine, a graphics and publishing thing. a pure games machine.
The 90's especially the late 90's were also a time where these machines passed us by, often being obsolete after just 9 or 10 months, so revisiting them often enhances that brief moment in time that we shared with them back then.
45 minutes of LGR about computers of my past? OK!
I did a similar upgrade of my first PC back then. I had (& still have) a Pentium II 350 MHz, 64 MB SDRAM, integrated NVidia Riva 128ZX (8MB), Win98, 8.6GB HDD.
I upgraded as the years passed, with 256MB SDRAM, Nvidia Geforce 2 MX 64MB (PCI, no AGP slot😔), Windows XP and a Pentium III 450 MHz (Slot 1). I used it until 2007, when i built my first PC.