Remember when songs had strong melodies and lyrics and the arrangement could be the same throughout (or even just a guy with a piano or a guitar) and they still were classics loved by millions? Pepperidge Farm remembers!
Great tip, Nathan! Oftentimes I’ll come up with a nice chord progression but struggle to expand upon the loop. Can’t wait to start using this technique in my workflow.
Completely understand this principle, however this feels pretty genre specific. I’ve listened to a lot of my favourite songs since watching this, and none of them are as dynamic as this example, yet I much prefer them. That said, I’m a firm believer that a great song shines through any production / mix.
I completely understand this, in the context of songs / tunes like this. In my own context - and I think this is recommended by some RUclipsrs - I try to work with a limited pallette of instruments and sounds, those which I could conceivably have played myself (apart from the drum kit!). This means keyboards, synths, organ, bass and a modicum of acoustic guitar. Working with a limited pallette makes variations more challenging but still possible. I find percussion ‘ear candy’ useful, eg triangle, tambourine, claps, finger snaps etc.
At that point it becomes more about making stellar arrangement choices. How can the same instrument behave differently to provide new context or new texture. Example: strummed guitar vs palm muted vs melodic vs Barr chords.
This is such a bedroom producer with tons og «gadgets» in his or hers arsenal way og thinking :(. Add more this, change that, move this and delete that. Try the same on AC/DC Highway to hell or Start me up with The rolling Stones (just quicly came up with 2 excamples). So many Classic songs with drums, bass, guitar and vocal that would fail this test but that will never disappear. Less is often more! If Your song can still capture an audience with just an acoustic guitar and the melody you might have something. If a 4 pierce band can Play Your song, coverbands will start playing it. The best for me would be a live recording where you can hear musicians interact with each other. Not a quantized, perfect, pich corrected, overprodusert song. When I arrange, Thats What I try to acchieve. The feeling of actual musicians playing together. Even if I use EZ drummer, Native Instrumens guitars and simular «instruments» to arrange. But hey, Thats me 🤪 I really like a lot of Your videos but this one was a really bad advice I think. Sorry about that :).
I'm a big fan of hip-hop instrumentals and boombap loops. I make my music specifically for me. If people think my music is boring, they're not my target audience, and their attention span isn't my problem.
Me looking at my Cpu
CPU : You better print those or i'll die
Remember when songs had strong melodies and lyrics and the arrangement could be the same throughout (or even just a guy with a piano or a guitar) and they still were classics loved by millions? Pepperidge Farm remembers!
Great tip, Nathan! Oftentimes I’ll come up with a nice chord progression but struggle to expand upon the loop. Can’t wait to start using this technique in my workflow.
Completely understand this principle, however this feels pretty genre specific. I’ve listened to a lot of my favourite songs since watching this, and none of them are as dynamic as this example, yet I much prefer them.
That said, I’m a firm believer that a great song shines through any production / mix.
Thank you for making this video
I tend to skip a lot of songs on Apple Music because of predictable boring arrangements and copy cat vocal melodies.
Brilliant!
Nice video ❤
I completely understand this, in the context of songs / tunes like this. In my own context - and I think this is recommended by some RUclipsrs - I try to work with a limited pallette of instruments and sounds, those which I could conceivably have played myself (apart from the drum kit!). This means keyboards, synths, organ, bass and a modicum of acoustic guitar. Working with a limited pallette makes variations more challenging but still possible. I find percussion ‘ear candy’ useful, eg triangle, tambourine, claps, finger snaps etc.
At that point it becomes more about making stellar arrangement choices.
How can the same instrument behave differently to provide new context or new texture.
Example: strummed guitar vs palm muted vs melodic vs Barr chords.
How long have you been keeping this to yourself? Best advice ever!!!
I just went back and watched the short of you making the NFL theme song. ITS SOO FIRE. I would love to see more stuff like that
Helpful, thanks!
This is such a bedroom producer with tons og «gadgets» in his or hers arsenal way og thinking :(. Add more this, change that, move this and delete that. Try the same on AC/DC Highway to hell or Start me up with The rolling Stones (just quicly came up with 2 excamples). So many Classic songs with drums, bass, guitar and vocal that would fail this test but that will never disappear. Less is often more! If Your song can still capture an audience with just an acoustic guitar and the melody you might have something. If a 4 pierce band can Play Your song, coverbands will start playing it. The best for me would be a live recording where you can hear musicians interact with each other. Not a quantized, perfect, pich corrected, overprodusert song. When I arrange, Thats What I try to acchieve. The feeling of actual musicians playing together. Even if I use EZ drummer, Native Instrumens guitars and simular «instruments» to arrange. But hey, Thats me 🤪
I really like a lot of Your videos but this one was a really bad advice I think. Sorry about that :).
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I'm a big fan of hip-hop instrumentals and boombap loops. I make my music specifically for me. If people think my music is boring, they're not my target audience, and their attention span isn't my problem.
I disagree. It's nice to think that the audience is the problem, but if the audience doesn't like our music, than our music is the problem.
So excited! I just got the course! 🙂