Kudos to you, Steve, for inviting us into your own practice session while you experiment with a “different swing.” Much appreciated and it was fun to watch your honest reactions. I’m playing to a 9 these days and probably, like many of your viewers, I too have experimented with different swing concepts and feels. Seems like every time I go back to a “high hands” set up at address I end up feeling more connected during the swing and strike the ball more consistently AND straighter. I just went through this again very recently and plan to stick with it as long as the positive results continue. Everyone is different, but for me this kind of swing seems simpler and easier to repeat. Fewer moving parts. And I’ve found it can work with stack & tilt as well as the Eureka swing. Really enjoyed this video! Many thanks!
@@user2023workingonmygame thanks, yes the less moving parts was something that really stood out for me. Some people feel wooden and restricted but I feel compact.
I’ve played the game for 70 years, and I have gone down the “high hands, single plane” rabbit hole several times. I know that some players swear by it as if it’s the Holy Grail, but It absolutely does not work for me. Golf is an each-to-his-own game, and I will never venture down that high hands rabbit hole again.
I agree completely. Tried the Moe Norman set up and it just is not a natural set up. Once you try to get it right you get thins and although it sometimes goes straight be prepared to lose distancel. Currently I’m all over the place. And today just confirmed how dangerous it is to fiddle around with this method. It was 14 holes before I struck a decent iron. This is not a quick fix for most amateurs in my opinion. Guys like Steve here could stand on one leg a still ping it further than most of us I think. Trevino , Ballesteros and de Chambeau too can manufacture shots from all sorts of swings. The rest of us…not so much
@@larrybeavens7580 And by the way Moe Norman is reputed to have worked on this swing day in day out sometimes spending as much as 7 or 8 hours a day perfecting his single plain swing. For most of us that dedication while commendable is simply unobtainable . Which is why we search RUclips for the magic move and the quick fix. I plead guilty as charged
SPS is adjustable for everyone basically no one swings the same, ball and hand position is something you have to work on but when you figure it out contact with the ball is so much better. Check out kirk Junge you tube.
Its an absolutely dreadful golf swing. Very very very few golfers will ever make it work for them and even then it will take years to master For the standard weekend warrior this is awful
I’ve tried this sort of thing with some success in the past, everything was laser straight but I struggled with thin shots a bit. Thanks for posting this, wish more pros would post this sort of thing, just hitting balls, trying new stuff, saying what they’re thinking and feeling.
@@phillipkleinman8726 Perhaps you meant Kirk Junge, unless he's no longer the mild-mannered golfer we all love and has been let loose in the wild jungle
I took the "Natural Golf" course. Hit it straight but no distance since there's virtually no body turn. Found you and Eureka and reread Ben Hogan. Keep up the great videos! Right, we're on! Love that.
I’ve been following Steve for about 18 months. Approximately 2 weeks ago I was watching Moe Norman then when at the range I just weirdly decided to try high hands. I couldn’t believe the difference and consistency 🎉🎉
I tried this today on my own and hit some unbelievable shots. This really is something that I’m gonna continue to pursue. Hope you incorporated in your lessons.
GREAT tip Steve. Ive been recently experimenting with the same thing after watching Bryson's recent success. It works. Last time out i shot 72 (par) with an 8 hdcp. Keep up the good work highlander!
What a coincidence! I just did the same thing with my swing. Only difference is I moved the grip more into the palm on my lead hand like Bryson and Kirk Junge. Skipped the range and took it straight to the course and shot even par on the front 9 for only the 2nd time in my life.
Steve, that is my swing now. I do have to pivot more like you said and I absolutely have to feel my right lower lats to know I am swinging right. I tend to shot a bit more right now, so I guard against that by taking one more stronger club and giving it a 3/4 or less swing. I love how I can depend on it. - I like how you keep on pushing the envelope. It's all about trying new things but having fun with it. - Keep on, keeping on!
Interesting video Steve, this format definitely works, trying new things that may or may not work, and that your "feel" with the change was very different to what it looked like on camera
Great to see Steve. I have played around with this before. I am keen try it our again. I would be keen to see the impact of the open feet stance as I have been trying more of a closed stance to avoid the left side. Generally my shots go straight or right. I am loving these videos and I am keen to see your progress.
Aye...as others have said, Moe Norman perfected the single plane swing long before Bryson was even born😂😂😂. We should be celebrating Moe and his awesome track record, numerous club records and several 59's . Legend.
Its Hogan who who perfected long before Moe. And Moe's swing isnt just single plane, the hands are "high" while with Hogan they are same as classic swing. And I dont understand what's so special about single plane, many players today are single plane, Tiger was and still is single plane.
I can’t wait to try this, although I’ll be waiting for a few days as it’s a very cold and wet winter here in Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺 next week is looking better.
I am old and my swing is short due toback issues. i tried the Bryson swing and found that my aim was better especially with wedges, the strike improved and the ball fliht became quite strong. I try E UREKA as it helps my back. There is definitely some very good mixing both swing thoughts. regards
Inspired to try this on the range today. First practice session in about 6 months and had some success, especially with Driver. Totally eliminated the damaging toe-strike duck hook. Worth a go on the course this week - feels really comfortable. 'mon the cabbage!
Hi Steve, nice one. I’m also subscribed to Brysons channel as I’m a similar size at 50 with a handicap around 5. Worked on his style for a couple of months as even after 44 years of playing I’m still learning. Long story short it simply didn’t provide me with the same level of confidence even though the good shots were better and have returned to a similar style to your natural one. Perhaps I didn’t try long enough. 🤔
Single axis golf swing. Is it coming back into fashion again? ‘Natural Golf’ was all the rage in the 2000’s. Todd Graves and Jack Kuykendall have been teaching versions of it for 20 years.
Great job with your SPS adjustment. Especially at 2:23 at impact, and to a lessor degree at 6:42 and 8:44 it seems your trailing elbow is extending away a from your body a tad early, especially considering that your camera position is behind the ball and not behind you. At 7:09, 7:40 and 8:10 you have an improved trailing elbow tuck. Otherwise you might want to eliminate your open foot position to help compensate. Great ulnar deviation, better extension on your 1st, 3rd and 4th driver swing was great (2nd one didn't have quite as good on an elbow tuck). BTW, on your PC press the Space Bar to stop playhead near impact, then press the Period key ( . ) to advance 1 frame at a time and the Comma key ( , ) to go back so you can freeze the video at your exact moment of impact. Thanks again Steve, your swing is really looking great!
The great Moe Norman originated that swing and set-up...right forearm and shaft on same plane line...not sure if Moe used over sized grips as Bryson does...
All clubs have different lie angles and the task is to have contact with the ball in the middle of the face as possible with the face as square to the target as possible. This includes having the sole of the club as square to the surface of the ground that you are hitting the ball from as possible. Golfers are made of all different dimensions. Manufacturers all have different standard lie angles and lengths for their clubs. Therefore one must adjust to their own clubs and dimensions to achieve square impact.
Saw the first part of this about higher hands at address, went out to practice this and flushed everything. Before I was trapped sometimes massive fat shots, now feel I can rotate shoulders easier and get forward press.
Steve, there’s some negative nellies out there. Ignore them. I’ve added the ‘high hands’ to my setup just to try and there is something in it that needs further exploration. Sure it won’t help everyone but for some it’s a game changer. Keep going sir & we appreciate what you’re trying to do.
I've been doing the single plane swing for a few months. Slightly longer shots with more height and very straight. Start from impact position with hips bumped forward. Try to keep left elbow facing target going back and on the downswing.
Why would you change a swing that is so good and works. Eureka works for me. I find that the straight up arms causes tension in the swing if not careful. Stick with what works.. thanks Steve your content is spot on
Steve…I chip and pitch {up to 70 yards} with my wrists pointed down. {tight stance} My short game is now class. I used to blade or hit heavy. Now when I get a bad shot, it’s because I don’t hold the angle. It’s mad, works 100% of the time. .The only thing I can think, it takes my wrist hinge out of the stroke.
very nice. I just noticed one thing, at address your right hand is still a bit over your left. drop your right shoulder a bit more and get that right hand a little more under the club. This helped me significantly. I use the Moe Norman style to golf. In this type of swing, the right arm is just along for the ride. try an overlap grip instead of interlocking. Also, your ball is too far back toward the right leg. I would move it up about 1 balls length to the left and compensate with a little more left knee bend (slight lunge) through impact.
I couldn't get the single plane until I went to a strong grip (like Kirk Junge). I shoot in the 70's all the time. I also use one length irons (Cobra). Never think about wrist hinge. One benefit is you never need to guess where to put your hands at setup. Same setup with every club definitely eliminates many variables.
Hey Steve, Interesting that you said it feels like your using different muscles. Do you think this will be a more back friendly swing? I ask because I have had a lower right back issues for years with conventional setup/swing, switched over to more upright, high hands, locked lead arm with square grip, flat lead hand at the top single plane swing and my back pain improved. I played this method for 2 years, then switched back to my older conventional setup/swing and back pain returned. I think I may need to switch again to single plane. BTW, I also shortened all my clubs this year, so thinking the combination of this and switching back to single plane makes sense to me. So my shaft lengths are as follows, which is different than the one length: - Driver 44” - 4W 43” - 4Hy 40” - 5Hy 39.5” - 5i 37” - 6i 37” - 7i 37” - 8i 36.5” - 9i 36” - PW 35.75” - W 35.5” - GW 35.25” - SW 35.25” - LW 35.25” My distances are very consistent with the above shaft length changes and I feel I can swing with confidence better than I have when the shaft lengths all varied with the conventional lengths.
Coincidentally I have made a similar change in my swing to great results. Also, it’s been noticeable some changes in the swings of Tom Kim and Nicolai Hojgaard to be similar to Bryson’s concept.
Made me check my swing at address..i already do this ...not that extreme but i used to do thenother way for a while and was to inconsistent so went back to my old ways lol
So I was focusing on keeping my arms equal on my torso and had good results but when I switched to my lead bicep more over my pec like you're demonstrating I saw a noticeable difference. Bryson's swing almost looks like a combination of Mo Norman and Ben Hogan combined.
Have been playing around with this for the last 3 months and have gained about 20m off the tee. Have gained a hook at time and lost completely a slice. I tried the Moe Norman grip but have struggled with it. It's worth playing around with the grip and width of stance. When working well, you hit a beautiful high long draw.
Done very much the same, not extreme high hands, got some one length clubs and my 1st 5 rounds have been effortlessly under my handicap. less wrist hinge far more accurate.
Good stuff. I struggled with one length clubs as the short irons went to high so stalled into the wind🤷♂️ Love the concept though, might get them out and try again!
Other than high hands at address, does this nullify any of your previous instructional videos? Can you comment on ball position using this new address position ?
It's early days yet as I only saw the video last night. So far my striking of the ball is inconsistent and generally poor. One thing I have noticed is that in straightening my wrists I alter the lie angle of the club. Won't that have an affect on ball/turf contact?
2:43 "I'm not gonna say I'm gonna change my swing." 🤔 I'm saying you're gonna change your swing! 😃 Once you find out that besides sending the ball super straight, that is easier to draw it, fade it, and to hit it low, medium, high, you'll fall in love with it. Best wishes!
From Stack and tilt to Eureka to a single plane swing (Bryson), or Steve Stricker for that matter, interesting, this approach must require a lot of upper body muscle isn't it?
Started using a similar swing about 2 1/2 months ago (difference I face the ball at impact). Most of my strikes were going straight (even the thins and duffs). But for the past 8:55 last 3 weeks I can’t seem to hit my irons. The driver (hit about 85% of fairways), and fairway woods have been unaffected. Any suggestions?
Hi Steve I don't think classing the angled address position as "wrong Address" is conducive to the masses. I've just come back from the Scottish open at north Berwick and the pro's were angled as this helps keeping hands low on takeaway (Bryson wasn't there😁). Sorry pal just my thoughts but I'm sure this will work for some people..
On your PC press the Space Bar to stop playhead near impact, then press the Period key ( . ) to advance 1 frame at a time and the Comma key ( , ) to go back so you can freeze the video at your exact moment of impact.
Your first swing of the video is my 'unforced error' swing. It comes from nowhere and happens a couple of times in a round. Moe concentration during the setup is required.
Isn't it the same as lifting the handle when chipping not to duff it, but applied to a regular iron shot?! I felt like your shots were missing to the right, as it happens chipping with this sort of handle upwards...
I have tried it with my driver, but not my irons, looks and sounds good! Moe Norman like! Swing path more consistent. I will try it with my irons today. My set up is not like yours but I will try the high hands swing, if it doesn't work I will go back to what I know.
Good point - when I made the single plane swing adjustment I also had to stand much further from the ball and had to have my irons extended over 1 inch to keep my balance (and not fall forward beyond my toes at impact). That said I haven't adjusted the club lie and I don't see a problem on the divot board when I try swinging to measure it.
Sorry Steve, i would worry about your connection, consistency over time would be difficult. Hogan wouldn’t have used this system because of staying on plane. Love that you are thinking about the game, but Bryson is an outlier, very much his own way, not sure Bryson and your swing actually mix.
Not a true Bryson address. About halfway to what he does. I’d love to hit the ball consistently like Steve does, but that’s a dream. Agree it’s better to see a pro hitting lots of balls rather than talking the theory and not demonstrating the practical.
Kudos to you, Steve, for inviting us into your own practice session while you experiment with a “different swing.” Much appreciated and it was fun to watch your honest reactions. I’m playing to a 9 these days and probably, like many of your viewers, I too have experimented with different swing concepts and feels. Seems like every time I go back to a “high hands” set up at address I end up feeling more connected during the swing and strike the ball more consistently AND straighter. I just went through this again very recently and plan to stick with it as long as the positive results continue. Everyone is different, but for me this kind of swing seems simpler and easier to repeat. Fewer moving parts. And I’ve found it can work with stack & tilt as well as the Eureka swing. Really enjoyed this video! Many thanks!
@@user2023workingonmygame thanks, yes the less moving parts was something that really stood out for me. Some people feel wooden and restricted but I feel compact.
I’ve played the game for 70 years, and I have gone down the “high hands, single plane” rabbit hole several times. I know that some players swear by it as if it’s the Holy Grail, but It absolutely does not work for me. Golf is an each-to-his-own game, and I will never venture down that high hands rabbit hole again.
I agree completely. Tried the Moe Norman set up and it just is not a natural set up. Once you try to get it right you get thins and although it sometimes goes straight be prepared to lose distancel. Currently I’m all over the place. And today just confirmed how dangerous it is to fiddle around with this method. It was 14 holes before I struck a decent iron. This is not a quick fix for most amateurs in my opinion. Guys like Steve here could stand on one leg a still ping it further than most of us I think. Trevino , Ballesteros and de Chambeau too can manufacture shots from all sorts of swings. The rest of us…not so much
I think He could get the Same result by Bending His Irons toe Down =Flatter and His normal Swing
@@larrybeavens7580 And by the way Moe Norman is reputed to have worked on this swing day in day out sometimes spending as much as 7 or 8 hours a day perfecting his single plain swing. For most of us that dedication while commendable is simply unobtainable . Which is why we search RUclips for the magic move and the quick fix. I plead guilty as charged
SPS is adjustable for everyone basically no one swings the same, ball and hand position is something you have to work on but when you figure it out contact with the ball is so much better. Check out kirk Junge you tube.
Its an absolutely dreadful golf swing. Very very very few golfers will ever make it work for them and even then it will take years to master
For the standard weekend warrior this is awful
I’ve tried this sort of thing with some success in the past, everything was laser straight but I struggled with thin shots a bit. Thanks for posting this, wish more pros would post this sort of thing, just hitting balls, trying new stuff, saying what they’re thinking and feeling.
The most recent issue of Golf digest has an article about Bryson dechambeau and his swing. Very informative.
Guy called Kurt Jung has been advocating this swing on RUclips for years
His name is Kirk jungle, at set up for impact golf
@@phillipkleinman8726 Kirk Junge...I am one of his instructors.
@@phillipkleinman8726 Perhaps you meant Kirk Junge, unless he's no longer the mild-mannered golfer we all love and has been let loose in the wild jungle
Mo Norman reborn ,good stuff Steve.
I took the "Natural Golf" course. Hit it straight but no distance since there's virtually no body turn. Found you and Eureka and reread Ben Hogan. Keep up the great videos! Right, we're on! Love that.
Moe Norman-esque single plane...works like a charm...also very Stricker-esque...
I’ve been following Steve for about 18 months. Approximately 2 weeks ago I was watching Moe Norman then when at the range I just weirdly decided to try high hands. I couldn’t believe the difference and consistency 🎉🎉
No more Hans Solo !
Hi Steve, I tried this today and drove the ball best ever over 40 years of golf.. Length and accuracy thank you 😊
Great job!
I tried this today on my own and hit some unbelievable shots. This really is something that I’m gonna continue to pursue. Hope you incorporated in your lessons.
Fantastic!
Nice to see someone trying different swing and giving thoughts on it very good video
I would continue the Bryson Golf Swing, it appears it's working for you! I'm going to give it a try tomorrow
Thanks to you Steve with this swing concept I reduced my miss hits by nearly 20% and added distance. Thanks again and you got my attention.
I use this and eureka style and it’s just amazing strike . I call impact golf swing . Kirk junge. Set up for impact
GREAT tip Steve. Ive been recently experimenting with the same thing after watching Bryson's recent success. It works. Last time out i shot 72 (par) with an 8 hdcp. Keep up the good work highlander!
What a coincidence! I just did the same thing with my swing. Only difference is I moved the grip more into the palm on my lead hand like Bryson and Kirk Junge. Skipped the range and took it straight to the course and shot even par on the front 9 for only the 2nd time in my life.
Steve, that is my swing now. I do have to pivot more like you said and I absolutely have to feel my right lower lats to know I am swinging right. I tend to shot a bit more right now, so I guard against that by taking one more stronger club and giving it a 3/4 or less swing. I love how I can depend on it. - I like how you keep on pushing the envelope. It's all about trying new things but having fun with it. - Keep on, keeping on!
Thanks for the feedback and for your encouragement 👍👍
Moe Norman has done that similar swing years ago. I've got to try that out. Great vlog!
Interested in this. Continue. I use Eureka with this set up. Works well for me.
Steve, this is great! Thank you for sharing this with us!👍🏼
Interesting video Steve, this format definitely works, trying new things that may or may not work, and that your "feel" with the change was very different to what it looked like on camera
Enjoy the content. I listen mostly for the accent which is awesome as well as your energy!
Great to see Steve. I have played around with this before. I am keen try it our again. I would be keen to see the impact of the open feet stance as I have been trying more of a closed stance to avoid the left side. Generally my shots go straight or right. I am loving these videos and I am keen to see your progress.
I can also recommend Tom Saguto’s channel - his swing is very similar.
Aye...as others have said, Moe Norman perfected the single plane swing long before Bryson was even born😂😂😂. We should be celebrating Moe and his awesome track record, numerous club records and several 59's . Legend.
9.54. I tried to hit my driver like Bryson and found this action really good.
Its Hogan who who perfected long before Moe. And Moe's swing isnt just single plane, the hands are "high" while with Hogan they are same as classic swing. And I dont understand what's so special about single plane, many players today are single plane, Tiger was and still is single plane.
Keep at it steve.everyone can had something to their game just givee it a try.
Love your exploration Steve. Been using the right arm in line to great effect. Thanks
I can’t wait to try this, although I’ll be waiting for a few days as it’s a very cold and wet winter here in Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺 next week is looking better.
Enjoy watching your progression.
Tried today and great results! Simple setup that us easly repeatable for us hacks
I'd like to see you try this on the course! Thanks.
Would have been nice to watch the track of the ball!
I am old and my swing is short due toback issues. i tried the Bryson swing and found that my aim was better especially with wedges, the strike improved and the ball fliht became quite strong. I try E UREKA as it helps my back. There is definitely some very good mixing both swing thoughts. regards
Many thanks steve.ill try this on the range.
Inspired to try this on the range today. First practice session in about 6 months and had some success, especially with Driver. Totally eliminated the damaging toe-strike duck hook. Worth a go on the course this week - feels really comfortable. 'mon the cabbage!
Hi Steve, nice one. I’m also subscribed to Brysons channel as I’m a similar size at 50 with a handicap around 5. Worked on his style for a couple of months as even after 44 years of playing I’m still learning. Long story short it simply didn’t provide me with the same level of confidence even though the good shots were better and have returned to a similar style to your natural one. Perhaps I didn’t try long enough. 🤔
Single axis golf swing. Is it coming back into fashion again? ‘Natural Golf’ was all the rage in the 2000’s. Todd Graves and Jack Kuykendall have been teaching versions of it for 20 years.
Great job with your SPS adjustment. Especially at 2:23 at impact, and to a lessor degree at 6:42 and 8:44 it seems your trailing elbow is extending away a from your body a tad early, especially considering that your camera position is behind the ball and not behind you. At 7:09, 7:40 and 8:10 you have an improved trailing elbow tuck. Otherwise you might want to eliminate your open foot position to help compensate. Great ulnar deviation, better extension on your 1st, 3rd and 4th driver swing was great (2nd one didn't have quite as good on an elbow tuck). BTW, on your PC press the Space Bar to stop playhead near impact, then press the Period key ( . ) to advance 1 frame at a time and the Comma key ( , ) to go back so you can freeze the video at your exact moment of impact. Thanks again Steve, your swing is really looking great!
The great Moe Norman originated that swing and set-up...right forearm and shaft on same plane line...not sure if Moe used over sized grips as Bryson does...
All clubs have different lie angles and the task is to have contact with the ball in the middle of the face as possible with the face as square to the target as possible.
This includes having the sole of the club as square to the surface of the ground that you are hitting the ball from as possible.
Golfers are made of all different dimensions.
Manufacturers all have different standard lie angles and lengths for their clubs.
Therefore one must adjust to their own clubs and dimensions to achieve square impact.
Agreed 👍
Saw the first part of this about higher hands at address, went out to practice this and flushed everything. Before I was trapped sometimes massive fat shots, now feel I can rotate shoulders easier and get forward press.
Steve, there’s some negative nellies out there. Ignore them. I’ve added the ‘high hands’ to my setup just to try and there is something in it that needs further exploration. Sure it won’t help everyone but for some it’s a game changer. Keep going sir & we appreciate what you’re trying to do.
I've been doing the single plane swing for a few months. Slightly longer shots with more height and very straight. Start from impact position with hips bumped forward. Try to keep left elbow facing target going back and on the downswing.
Why would you change a swing that is so good and works. Eureka works for me. I find that the straight up arms causes tension in the swing if not careful. Stick with what works.. thanks Steve your content is spot on
Works great with HY brids
Steve…I chip and pitch {up to 70 yards} with my wrists pointed down. {tight stance} My short game is now class. I used to blade or hit heavy. Now when I get a bad shot, it’s because I don’t hold the angle. It’s mad, works 100% of the time. .The only thing I can think, it takes my wrist hinge out of the stroke.
very nice. I just noticed one thing, at address your right hand is still a bit over your left. drop your right shoulder a bit more and get that right hand a little more under the club. This helped me significantly. I use the Moe Norman style to golf. In this type of swing, the right arm is just along for the ride. try an overlap grip instead of interlocking. Also, your ball is too far back toward the right leg. I would move it up about 1 balls length to the left and compensate with a little more left knee bend (slight lunge) through impact.
Moe ‘Eureka’ Johnston or Steve ‘Eureka’ Norman? 😊
I couldn't get the single plane until I went to a strong grip (like Kirk Junge). I shoot in the 70's all the time. I also use one length irons (Cobra). Never think about wrist hinge. One benefit is you never need to guess where to put your hands at setup. Same setup with every club definitely eliminates many variables.
Bingo💥
Hey Steve,
Interesting that you said it feels like your using different muscles. Do you think this will be a more back friendly swing?
I ask because I have had a lower right back issues for years with conventional setup/swing, switched over to more upright, high hands, locked lead arm with square grip, flat lead hand at the top single plane swing and my back pain improved. I played this method for 2 years, then switched back to my older conventional setup/swing and back pain returned. I think I may need to switch again to single plane. BTW, I also shortened all my clubs this year, so thinking the combination of this and switching back to single plane makes sense to me.
So my shaft lengths are as follows, which is different than the one length:
- Driver 44”
- 4W 43”
- 4Hy 40”
- 5Hy 39.5”
- 5i 37”
- 6i 37”
- 7i 37”
- 8i 36.5”
- 9i 36”
- PW 35.75”
- W 35.5”
- GW 35.25”
- SW 35.25”
- LW 35.25”
My distances are very consistent with the above shaft length changes and I feel I can swing with confidence better than I have when the shaft lengths all varied with the conventional lengths.
Just got over the 12”and 3” driver tip which was good btw are we switching to one length clubs now
Great impact sound I think it suits you maybe it’s your stature but it looks a great powerful swing to me
One plane swing. they've been banging on about this Moe style swing for years.
Coincidentally I have made a similar change in my swing to great results.
Also, it’s been noticeable some changes in the swings of Tom Kim and Nicolai Hojgaard to be similar to Bryson’s concept.
Made me check my swing at address..i already do this ...not that extreme but i used to do thenother way for a while and was to inconsistent so went back to my old ways lol
I do have my lead arm turned over more(strong grip) which makes my arms more straight than low and relaxed
So I was focusing on keeping my arms equal on my torso and had good results but when I switched to my lead bicep more over my pec like you're demonstrating I saw a noticeable difference. Bryson's swing almost looks like a combination of Mo Norman and Ben Hogan combined.
Have been playing around with this for the last 3 months and have gained about 20m off the tee. Have gained a hook at time and lost completely a slice. I tried the Moe Norman grip but have struggled with it. It's worth playing around with the grip and width of stance. When working well, you hit a beautiful high long draw.
I think you should keep the single plane swing, perfect golf swing.
very nice.
Done very much the same, not extreme high hands, got some one length clubs and my 1st 5 rounds have been effortlessly under my handicap. less wrist hinge far more accurate.
Good stuff. I struggled with one length clubs as the short irons went to high so stalled into the wind🤷♂️
Love the concept though, might get them out and try again!
With your left bicep over your left pec, does that bring your arm across your chest more and move your hands away from target a little bit?
Other than high hands at address, does this nullify any of your previous instructional videos? Can you comment on ball position using this new address position ?
Are you sure that’s a telegraph pole? Hard to tell from your video but it looks like a power pole with maybe a transformer hanging on it?
It's early days yet as I only saw the video last night. So far my striking of the ball is inconsistent and generally poor. One thing I have noticed is that in straightening my wrists I alter the lie angle of the club. Won't that have an affect on ball/turf contact?
I use this one plane swing and scores around 78 to 82 in most time.
Did you try driver using the 12 back 6 in ?
You are setting the limits of your arms on a circle. There has to be something there👍
2:43 "I'm not gonna say I'm gonna change my swing." 🤔
I'm saying you're gonna change your swing! 😃
Once you find out that besides sending the ball super straight, that is easier to draw it, fade it, and to hit it low, medium, high, you'll fall in love with it. Best wishes!
Would have been nice to see you hit a pitching wedge with that style swing
Cant see where the ball goes but the contact sounds excellent
From Stack and tilt to Eureka to a single plane swing (Bryson), or Steve Stricker for that matter, interesting, this approach must require a lot of upper body muscle isn't it?
Started using a similar swing about 2 1/2 months ago (difference I face the ball at impact). Most of my strikes were going straight (even the thins and duffs). But for the past 8:55 last 3 weeks I can’t seem to hit my irons. The driver (hit about 85% of fairways), and fairway woods have been unaffected.
Any suggestions?
Hi Steve I don't think classing the angled address position as "wrong Address" is conducive to the masses. I've just come back from the Scottish open at north Berwick and the pro's were angled as this helps keeping hands low on takeaway (Bryson wasn't there😁). Sorry pal just my thoughts but I'm sure this will work for some people..
More Norman would be proud
Is your distance the same, fly as far?
It would help if you could put your normal swing and this one side by side on screen for an easy comparison.
High hands, wouldn’t that affect how the lie (toe down) is at impact?
I thought it would but Trackman says no.🤷♂️
It's the Moe Norman swing, yes?
Steve looks more like Stricker. I think you should experiment for 4-6 weeks 👍
What would be nice is a slow motion video from the front and side with a breakdown.
On your PC press the Space Bar to stop playhead near impact, then press the Period key ( . ) to advance 1 frame at a time and the Comma key ( , ) to go back so you can freeze the video at your exact moment of impact.
Your first swing of the video is my 'unforced error' swing. It comes from nowhere and happens a couple of times in a round. Moe concentration during the setup is required.
How much was the grip changed?
Norman had more of a Nicklaus finish I think.
Moe Norman promoted this as well
Isn't it the same as lifting the handle when chipping not to duff it, but applied to a regular iron shot?! I felt like your shots were missing to the right, as it happens chipping with this sort of handle upwards...
Have you played a round using your new set up ???
Hands high at address sets your wrist at the top in the same position every time.
I have tried it with my driver, but not my irons, looks and sounds good! Moe Norman like! Swing path more consistent. I will try it with my irons today. My set up is not like yours but I will try the high hands swing, if it doesn't work I will go back to what I know.
If the lie on your clubs are fitted to your usual swing, wouldn't the toe be too low for a Bryson-type swing?
Yes it would be but on trackman all seems fine? I’m still working on this
Good point - when I made the single plane swing adjustment I also had to stand much further from the ball and had to have my irons extended over 1 inch to keep my balance (and not fall forward beyond my toes at impact). That said I haven't adjusted the club lie and I don't see a problem on the divot board when I try swinging to measure it.
Moe norman has been doing that for a long time
Funny thing is --we only have your word those shots are good! I could not see the flight, direction or landing of the ball!
@@edwardw8019 well…..don’t try it🤷♂️
@@stevejohnstongolf I won't!
It looks like the ball is above your feet. Kind of hard to hit it flush from that lie?
This might work for some people, but it's not for me.
Mo Norman introduced the single plane swing 40 plus years ago, this isn't nw.
Did you have to alter the lie angle to do this video?
Nope
Sorry Steve, i would worry about your connection, consistency over time would be difficult. Hogan wouldn’t have used this system because of staying on plane. Love that you are thinking about the game, but Bryson is an outlier, very much his own way, not sure Bryson and your swing actually mix.
I marshalled at Muirfield many years ago and out of 160+ players only 1 pro had high hands. He didn’t get through to the weekend.
I'm still not sure what he means by the ball is near his fewte.
Not a true Bryson address. About halfway to what he does. I’d love to hit the ball consistently like Steve does, but that’s a dream. Agree it’s better to see a pro hitting lots of balls rather than talking the theory and not demonstrating the practical.
You look like you've got more room at impact