MiSTer FPGA DE10 NANO! SNAC and SNAX Adapters + USB Controllers and Arcade Sticks for MiSTer!
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
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Its been well over a year since we last talked about controller options for MiSTer FPGA and a LOT of you have been asking more about it...so let's do a part 2 of the best video game controllers for MiSTer FPGA so you can enjoy some retro gaming!
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I asked, you answered...and I try to listen :) Of all the requests for new content on the channel one of the most frequently asked for videos is a series on the Terasic DE-10 Nano MiSTer FPGA hardware...so here it is! Retro gaming goodness.
On this episode of our MiSTer series we are going to be talking about some of the awesome retrogaming controller options for MiSTer FPGA; SNAC and SNAX adapters to use your original PS1/SNES/Sega Genesis/PC Engine and TurboGrafx controllers on MiSTer FPGA, modern USB controllers that work great (PS4/PS5/Xbox Series X/Xbox One X and Switch Pro Controller) as well as some 8BitDO options I love controller wise! Plus Daemonbite adapters for your arcade fight sticks for all the awesome arcade cores on MiSTer FPGA!
Daemonbite adapter tutorial : • MiSTer FPGA Daemonbite...
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To enable snac on the TurboGrafx 16 core: From the core menu select the hardware option, then select the USER I/O
option and change it to SNAC. Mentioning here since it's not as straightforward in the menu as it is with the other cores like the NES, SNES, Genesis etc.
Great video! Haven't had any issues with latency or dropped inputs on the 8bitdo or Retrobit controllers over 2.4ghz. I avoid bluetooth like the plague if I can help it though!
Bluetooth is such bad tech. In cars. In controllers. In headphones. It’s the worst
What I like about the PC engine, snac adapter is that the multi player adapter works, so if you have more than one of these controllers, you can play multiplayer games
That is a fun use case
Great video, been using a series controller for everything despite owning snac adapters. That controller is just so comfortable and the d pad is fantastic
The D pad is gold. Second only to an original Saturn controller IMO
I'm using a SNAC adaptor to use my original SNES and Genesis controller. The good thing is that SNES controller works on the NES core and Genesis controller on SMS core.
That is a nice bonus. My fav is the PC Engine controller on PC Engine though. That system needs a real controller
That compatibility is a relief, but can I also map the b and a buttons for the nes core to be the y and b buttons on the snes controller with snac? I just don’t know what Nintendo was thinking when they made the dog bone controller and game boy button layout in a diagonal layout going the wrong way. Our right thumbs are positioned in a backward slash shape like the y and b buttons of a snes controller, not the other way.
It’s a world of possibilities and I love it
Great video. I find doing down up specials in Cadillac and Dinosaurs easier on stick then on pad.
I prefer the offset analogue sticks as a general rule, and the Dpad on the series controller is surprisingly good.
The D pad on Series is probably the best D pad put into a controller outside OG Sega Saturn pads IMO. Well that and Neo Geo CD but that’s not really a D pad at all
@@VideoGameEsoterica definitely like the series controller. Given all the previous Xbox Dpads, I was expecting something bad. A nice surprise for sure.
And the slightly texture on the controller too. They nailed it with Series
It would be nice covering all the different SNAC/LLAPI options. I have the Ironclad Plus motherboard with the Decapod and I was having trouble getting the NES and SNES controllers to work. I managed to get the NES controller working with the ENCC core but was unable to figure out the settings for the SNES controller. Would you have any tips for that?
I would but….$$$! I can’t afford it all
I use a SNES to usb converter with the MISTer. It works perfectly. I have another SNES to USB adaptor which doesn't work (made by Raphnet). My PC Engine Raphnet adaptor doesn't work either. My Saturn Raphnet adaptor does though. The Super Famicom controller can't be beat, imo. Though my hands are a lot bigger than they were when I was fourteen doing endless Shoryuken's.
It’s a real mixed bag out there with adapters it seems. You’d think they’d all work but no
Isn’t it great when things just work? I love the capability of mister fpga, but user friendliness is the major advantage of a mini console over what we use. User friendliness is not to be underestimated. Seems too fitting that mister is Linux based. If there was a user friendly mister fpga with an appealing interface, the thing would be the best thing since sliced bread, but it would have to be really expensive to justify all of that work. What we get is already so remarkable, so I’ll still count my blessings and accept that countless hours of trial and error is the price we have to pay.
I've been using my wireless Genesis and SNES controllers that I bought from Nintendo for my Switch. They work really well on my MiSTer via blue tooth. I also use my USB Turbografx-16 controller that came with my Turbografx-16 Mini console. Lastly, I also use my old SF4 TE arcade stick and a PS4 controller. All those controller feel like they have me covered!
Also, RIP cat pen. You will be missed! 😭
Cat pen will be back next time. It’s a one off :)
So those co trollers work well eh? I’ve been interested in trying them
@@VideoGameEsoterica They do work well. And they're very well built. Definitely a step up in build quality compared to the similar alternatives out there from other controller manufacturers. I also have wired USB Genesis controllers that came with my Genesis Mini console, and those are very noticeably cheaper feeling. The buttons don't feel quite right on those either. Not so with Nintendo's Genesis controller.
Maybe I’ll pick one up. Thanks for the info!
@@VideoGameEsoterica Would love to hear your thoughts on it if you do!
Maybe later this year. I need to make space before I add anything else 😂
Antonio Villena makes SNAC adapters for NeoGeo (I have one) but it does use his DB9 connector (for his IO board) not USB. Essentially it is using the same SNAC technology just the connectors are different.
Ahh. Good to know
How would I go about converting a nicotine soaked Vewlix panel for Mister? Asking for a friend.
Stick it in the freezer til the smoke smell dies (seriously)
@@VideoGameEsoterica incorrect it was already cleaned with simple green.
You want simple brown
What a emotional roller coaster.
A glass box of emotion
If anyone plans on making an arcade stick for their Mister, I would highly recommend a Zero Delay encoder. They are very easy to setup and are plug and play on the Mister and can be used an PS1, PS2 and PS3 without the need for an adapter.
Also a fun option. I just like the Daemonbite as it can be done for the equivalent of a $5 bill
Yes to snacs (yum)
No to dog pen (meow)
#segasaturnsnac #sssnac #saturnsnac
lolol...cat pen shall return after this joke
Saturn gamepad also comes in wired versions, alongside the same companies mega drive gamepads.
True. I just like the options of wireless or adding the wire
Very interesting video. Thanks! 🙂👌
Glad you enjoyed :)
I was looking for a video testing the Neo-Geo adapter from the Ultimatemister site because I am wondering if it´s just for pads or the sticks too, but maybe it was not out at the time.
Pad and stick function the same for Neo Geo so I can’t see why it wouldn’t work
How's the Switch Prob controller for SNES, PS1, etc.? I've never used it.
I really love the feel of it. The D pad isn’t the best ever but the overall controller I give a thumbs up to
Hypothetically, could I use an NES controller with the PC Engine core and vice versa?
You know I’ve literally never tried but I believe it’s controller per system with SNAC. Obv if it’s usb then do whatever you want
Beautiful arcade stick!
Glad you like it
The Ironclad ITX board for MiSTer has a variety of 2 controller SNAC splitters, including NEO GEO. But I think it's doing something unique with the SNAC function so they may only work with the Ironclad ITX itself.
Yes that’s unfortunately not a piece of hardware I have available to test on
@@VideoGameEsoterica I put a order in for batch 6 when it came available. I should be testing it out for myself sometime this spring. (With the Hi-Fi Audio blaster dac upgrade even.)
Sounds like a fun time
I like that homemade Neogeo stick to usb. I like to know more.
I have a video. Look in the description. It’s linked
Using mostly a sf30pro. The hori Pokken controller is my wired choice. Never used snac just fast poll usb. ☮️
Fast poll usb gets the job done
I just use my PS3 controllers over Bluetooth. I'm not good enough at games for it to make a difference. lol I did make a couple of Daemonbite adapters for the C64 core, but it was kind of a hassle. I may look into the SNAC adapter now that there's so many options.
Haha that’s totally fair too. If it works it works!
OK, serious question, has anyone made a controller with track ball and spinner wheel?
Not that I am aware of
How about doing a video on converting old computer keyboards to usb , for example a spectrum or c64 , was thinking about doing this to complete my mister setup .
Maybe. I just don’t have any
For HDMI output wouldn't those mini consoles controllers be the best wired solution? There are official NES, SNES, 3 button Genesis, 6 button Genesis, PC Engine, TurboGrafx16, NeoGeo, PS1 and Saturn controllers available. There might even be more but I'm not into mini consoles.
Personally I use the 8bitdo M30 and their Switch arcade stick. I'm looking into getting a Decapod for CRT gaming.
Possibly. I haven’t tried them all. Some of the mini controllers aren’t so great
Snac is great for light guns and using memory cards
That is an upside for sure
Really, it is cheaper to just get the usb versions of the controllers. I was primarily using a SNAC for the NES Zapper. For the most part, I just use a PS5 controller for everything.
Some of the USB versions aren't great though IMO
I much prefer dogs to cats. Good change xxx
You might be the only fan so far
thank you for your content. Is there really a noticeable difference between DIY Daemonbite adapters and the SCAC solution out there?
In lag? Not huge. In handling? Yes. I’d much rather use an OEM controller vs something not made for that console. Like I want a six button Genesis pad on a Sega core. But that’s just me
I did some daemonbite adapters (starting with your tutorial neo geo stick), thank you so much!, btw....did you test atari controllers (paddles mostly) with snac/snax? and lightguns? (zapper, superscope)?
I didn’t test Atari as it’s really not my jam. I will do a video on lightgun stuff soonish
Yes to snacs!
Everyone loves snacs! And snacks
Is there any issue with NES SNAC? It used to be working fine and now only one button works.
I haven’t noticed anything. That is odd
I'm exploring mister solution, Can I use a snac connected pcengine controller for all core that support a controller or I can only use it on the pcengine core?
Its controller per matching core with SNAC
I love to play ColecoVision games on my Mister but it's missing the keypad.
I tried to map the directions and action buttons on a xbox one controller, and also tried to map the numerak key on a separate keyboard.
I'm wondering if the genesis snac adapter would be able to use a CV controller with it.
Sometimes I wish some one would make a good USB controller with a num pad to use on Colecovision, intellivision and Atari Jaguar emulators and Mister cores
That’s a good question. I haven’t played much coleco at all
I never thought of that
Interesting stuff. Does a Snac/ Snax adapter add any input lag?
No. It lessens it vs usb
which daemonbite nes adapter do you recommend if I can't make my own?
I haven’t tried any of them so I don’t really have one I recommend but let me ask around
Very good vide you did here.
Please tell me one thing, theres any way to make other controllers work on an FZ-10 3DO?
Yes there is a 3DO controller adapter. Just google “3DO controller adapter” and you’ll find the site
@@VideoGameEsoterica ok, ok. Its that SNES to 3DO adapter?
Yep!
@@VideoGameEsoterica i just saw the video you did about it. I saw that there is a BlueRetro adapter for the 3DO too, theres a video about it but i dont know how to find it my friend
I have a blue metal console box i made for the mister that has mt32 mounted on the front, and it is hard to open once closed. I’m interested in mt32 and snax, is there a way to have both plugged in so i don’t have to unplug?
To my knowledge no. One or the other
Maybe someday 😔
You never know
Hi there, I was wondering if you might know what to do about this. On my Mister at a certain point it started to have two cores for each in the console section. So for example I have two Neo Geo cores, but they are distinct by a different date each. Have you seen anything like this before? Any advice would be appreciated. 😊
Sounds like it didnt overwrite the old core when you used update_all UNLESS you manually installed a core?
@@VideoGameEsoterica Thanks for responding. Yea it seems like it just didn't overwrite all the old versions of the cores. Because its the same situation for all my console cores. I guess I should be able to manually delete the older cores when navigating the SD with my computer?
Run update all again. That may fix it. But yes otherwise manually deleting the older cores will purge them. But I’d try update all first
@@VideoGameEsoterica ok thanks I will try that!
👍
hello, I play mister using the 8BotDo Pro2 controller, but I tried DualSense with a friend, and it seemed more convenient to me. Does it make sense for me to change 8Bitdo Pro2 to DualSense? Thank you
Just 100% preference. I think both are great to be honest. It’s kinda a coin flip
@@VideoGameEsoterica I like the quality of the buttons, the design of 8BitDo Pro 2, but I like the ergonomics of Dual sense more, but I need a gamepad that is universal for console cores, arcade ones .. after all, 8BitDo is more suitable here?
Is there any way to use original NEOGEO Pad with mister? I’ve seen USB adapters online for PC but not sure if they work well with Mister..
I use a Daemonbite adapter myself. Very minimal latency
@@VideoGameEsoterica cool,didn’t know such thing existed.I might pick one up,I never used those NEO GEO pad controllers,but since I don’t really like arcade sticks,thought it might be the best controller for that core and maybe for arcade cores too.
Def try a daemonbite out. I love them
@@VideoGameEsoterica I like to use og layout controllers with Mister but the problem is the og NEOGEO pads are very pricey,around $75 and who knows how long they’ll last being 30 yrs old,then there’s cost of Daemon so close to $100 just for one pad..
I’m still considering it tho.what do you think about using Xbox Series for NEOGEO? since the buttons layout is similar.
They are all a bit rough now without maintenance. Lots of the pads have issues with inputs in the clicks thumbstick
I'm assuming you can use the guncon 1 with the PSX snax?
You can. Video eventually on GunCon on CRT :) I have one for LCD currently up on the playlists
@@VideoGameEsoterica when you get around to making one about light guns on Crt, can you cover using it with RGBs BNC? I have a misteraddons snac and I can't for the life of me figure it out lol
Yes I will :)
2:48 :)
haha
I was playing Medal of Honor on the psx core with a DualShock 4, and I noticed it seems the analog sticks won’t allow for the full range of movement.
In duckstation, there’s an option to fix this for modern controllers, but I can’t see any option to fix it on mister.
I haven’t tried that personally so I’d have to look into it. It should just calibrate correctly
@@VideoGameEsoterica I could be doing something wrong, but even after multiple times recalibrating, still the same result.
Very odd. If I hear anything I’ll lyk
@@VideoGameEsoterica Thanks. Also of note, i switched to a DualShock 3, and everything works as intended. So, I'll just keep using that.
As good as the 4
Shame there's no Neo Geo snac adapter.
I am surprised by that
I missed the microSD slot when I inserted the card and as I have a case on the MISTer, I can't get at it. There are no regular screws on the top panel. I'm not sure exactly what they're using but they have HUS 10.9 on them. They look like they could be opened with a hexagonal Allen Key. I've ordered one. And, I've contacted the seller to ask. He said he'd get back to me today but hasn't. Any help is appreciated.
It's the same case (just in white) as the MISTer in this video:
ruclips.net/video/KBYMGYVRbVU/видео.html
Ooh not sure on that one. Sorry to hear that
@@VideoGameEsoterica
Oh well, hopefully he gets back to me. If not, I'll try the Allen Key. It's a design flaw because the hole and the slot aren't lined up together and you can miss easily.
It’s a pain to get the card in when it’s not in a case so yeah I can only imagine
@@VideoGameEsoterica
They got back to me. It's a Torx T8 screwdriver I need.
Nice
I have he snax with snes ,megadrive, nes , and psx adapters. Never could make them work well. Start button doesn't work. But if I use a clone pad on psx for example, it works well. Weird.
Odd behavior. Have not seen that myself
Why are people so mad about pens?? Lmao. I have so many controller and sticks but I don't mind bt or 2.4 GHz more convenient
People are weird. I can’t help but make fun of it 😂
Holy shit. Please dust off your controllers first next time.
I leave them dusty for a reason lol. To make one person upset
@@VideoGameEsoterica you are a madman 😅
It’s my way of keeping myself entertained. Because if I am not having fun why do it? Lol