RevolutionRace Outdoor Trousers REVIEW | RVRC GP Pro pants & Nordwand Pro Pants
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- Here are my reasons not to buy RevolutionRace outdoor trousers, RVRC GP Pro Pants and Nordwand Pro Pants.
In this video we look closer at two pair of hiking pants from Revolution Race or RVRC as the logo says. I’m honest to say I have only used these pants for very short time but they are actually so crappy that I don't want to use them anymore!
RevolutionRace outdoor clothes is a brand that you don't find in regular outdoor shops. You have to order them directly from their own web shop. These hiking pants comes in several different models and each model comes in up to 30 different color combinations each. You will always find color combination that attracts your taste. I ordered two pair of pants, RVRC GP Pro Pants and Nordwand Pro Pants. After using them a short while I just want to get rid of them. I need hiking trousers that are practical and comfortable out on the tours, not only good looking in nice colors.
I also want to make a warning that the size charts for these models are totally wrong. They recommend me to get size small but medium is already thigh around my waist. It wouldn’t work at all if I was heavier than my 67 kg for my 172 cm.
The quality of the fabric is also bad because already after 5 days the fabric around my legs starts losing color. Reviews on internet and people who I have asked about these pants are saying the same. The fabric will very fast look bad.
RVRC also have very smart campaigns with different price levels if you order two or three pair. In the end it’s not a good price if you compare with buying one pair of hiking pants from a high-quality brand.
I’m going to get rid of these two pants. Hopefully and maybe in the future the RevolutionRace products will get better…or not. Until they have snapped up their product I will go for other brands. I will find better budget trousers than this or I will keep on buying well known good quality brands.
/Matti
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00:00 Intro
00:44 About RevolutionRace
01:32 Nordwand Pro Pants
04:53 RVRC GP Pro Pants
10:26 Resume of the two outdoor trousers
13:40 Revolutions Race campaigns and sell strategy
15:46 RVRC pants are not good enough! 
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I have 2 pairs of RVRC pants, and i have used them basically everyday for the past 3 years. They are super comfortable and durable, and they fit me well. Not a single hole or tear in either of them and i do a LOT of hiking in the woods and mountains of Norway. Great pants in my opinion!
can i ask what size you chose? im about 6 foot 2 and between a 36 and 38 waist but can't figure out they're size guide
@@willowholmes3035 im 6 foot 1 and a waist size 34. I use size L
I have the same experience with the legs, only they were for my very skinny daughter, about six years ago. (She was 15 at the time) So I guess nothing has changed. She couldn't fit them over her Lundhags boots. Ended up buying a pair of Lundhags pants. So much better in every way.
I then tried again a couple of years ago, for myself this time. I ordered almost every model in every plausible size. I sent all of them back. I have thighs, ass and waist. None of the models could accomodate my figure. I'm not fat, just curvy.
Great review by the way! Love your sense of humour. 😂
Thanks.
If I look around in town it's really rare to see someone who have the kind of body that should fit in to this kind of pants.
Nice that you enjoy my kind of humor.
😀
/Matti
I have RVRC GPX pro pants. They're really strong and durable. Great for hiking and MTB and cycling to town or on weekend. Great for gardening. Great indoors. Great everywhere in fact I have worn them probably most days this year! Lower leg has zip to open out pants and widen e.g. get over boot. Pockets either side I find big and deep enough phone + other stuff lower zip pocket good for soft stuff e.g. tissues, string. Mine have elastic type fabric on rear down to back of knees and from the knees down on front. Good for MTB wearing kneepads. Only fault I would have with RevolutionRace trousers is that there are many options to choose from. So if you want good option like ability to open out lower leg and decent pockets you must make sure the one you choose has it.
I have been wearing Fjallraven kit for over forty years, both for my Ranger work, and for camping\trekking\bushcraft. It is excellent quality, but has become so eye wateringly expensive that I resent paying £150 for a pair of trousers.
So I too bought a pair of Norwand pro pants from RR, and although the leg cuffs are indeed narrow, they are ideal if you wear calf length hunting boots in winter, as I do.
For all year round use, get the GP pro rescue trousers, these have really good size vents, on thighs and calves, and zips to adjust leg opening to the size of boots, and are easy to roll up for river crossing. Pockets are good too. And with RR discount, they are £50 cheaper than Fjallraven Vidda pro trousers.
look up decathlon hunting gear and solognac 520 pants
Thank you for this review. I am happy with my RR pants for daily hiking tours.
It's good that at least someone like this pants.
😀
/Matti
they are the most comfortable stylish pants among all of the outdoor clothes in my opinion, so for casual hikers they're actually perfect because many care about looking good and in the city those are awesome looking too and can be perfect. for example I drive an E-Bike for work and my old pants got worn out after like 6 months, RVRC pants could hable that for years and most of their clothes can be impregnated with a water repellant substance in a spray. the mentioned problems are honest opinion but they are not a problem for most people.
My pants are way better then those in the video and they actually have all features needed.
Large ventilation zipers on the inside of the thigh with a mech with large holes. Long zipers from the leg ending almost up to the knee. Thigh pockets placed lower then the video pants with room for stuff closed by ziper. The leg endings are reenforced with a special fabric from Switzerland swiss made. They have stretch between the legs, knees, butt. Regular pockets at the sides closed of with a ziper. They are design to have a slim fit but it's well made so they are not tight anywhere.
Cost more the the dubble of the pants in the video. But it's so worth it. Buy once cry once.
@@tiddybearkush can you please mention the brand, it's always nice to check out such things ✌️
Not with a nordwand, basicly impossible to bike
@@kevinnoel4647 the range of movement in most RVRC pants is quite impressive, i am in Germany and this brand is quite popular and very nice to have again the harsh weather here, and as far as I have tried they don't wear and tear easily, and they fit well when i lose weight and when I gain weight because the waist is elastic too, and you don't have to restrict yourself with a model or color that doesn't suit your style، I just order online and if it doesn't fit you can send it back. And that is just at first because they will recommend the right size for you based on your previous purchases. And above all that if you are patient you could get stuff down to 50% .
Thanks for the great review, I always worry about sizing when I can't at least try some on.
Been wearing Haglofs pants for years. The Rugged collection of slim and regular pants are ideal from my perspective. Durable, functional and fit me well. My Rugged Pro waxed polyamide pants are super tough.
Haglöfs make some great stuff!
/Matti
Thanks so much for the upload, I was thinking about purchasing but definitely going to be sticking to my Fjallraven Vidda/ Keb trousers it's definitely more expensive but you know what your getting 🥰🥰🥰
Thank you for this review. The things you point out are many of the same things that would bother me. With all your experience, it would be nice if you would design the optimal pair of hiking pants. I have a sewing machine. If you design them, I’ll make them or have them made. Function first, style second. What material would you use and where?
Alltid bra tester. Tack!
Har själv enbart använt olika modeller/fabrikat av arbetsbyxor, i närmare 30år. Finns nu i mer eller mindre stretch. Fungerande knäskydd, mm. Köper mina ett par stl. "för stora". Dessutom billigare..
Ja...arbetsbyxor är ofta bra men ganska tunga och inte så snabbtorkande. I kanot o för fiske är de grymma med alla fickor. /Matti
Jag har några byxor från dom och jag kan bara konstatera att din analys stämmer bra.
PS, härligt att få se lite hud från dig också. 😊👌
Tack själv Tommy!
Vad kul att du uppskattar lite hud! Jag har väntat med att göra denna film tills nu när min hud hunnit få lite sol. Tidigare va den mer transparent... typ blåaktig som en död sik... Nu är jag fint solad och har fått en vit nyans. 😀 /Matti
Great review, have a couple of RR pants and like you im trying to find out what they are made to work in.
Pockets are smal and has a weird position, they are to slim fit.
I regret i didnt spend the money on a new pair of fjällräven keb trousers..
Good review, covers stuff you need to know..... saved me buying them and sending them back..... hopefully they will address the issues.
I got at new pair of RVRC GP pro för my hike at Kungsleden two years ago and after two days of them being wet they were discoloured in the non-stretch fabric. The function and build quality is in pair with the cost.
Sorry for that. You are not the first one who tells me about how this pants have made them disappointed…
/Matti
I'm glad I looked up your review before buying. The main reason I was looking at these is size. They offer quite generous sizes, and being rather... large... I'm struggling to find anything that will fit me. I need to lose quite a few more inches until I can fit into Fjallraven. It's frustrating. Manufacturers seem to think that if you're a little overweight, you don't deserve to be on the mountains. Even though I'm quite fat, I'm happy carrying a full kit for 20 miles a day. I'm tired of having to do it in jogging pants!
To be clear, waterproof over trousers do seem to be available, and I've managed to find some that fit. But it would be great to have access to decent "technical" wear.
You should try the clothes from the company “UF PRO”, especially the pants called “Striker X” or the “Striker ULT”. Yes it is a military gear company but I believe that they work phenomenally for us normal people too. Would be fun to hear your take on it.
Thanks!!! I will look in to that!
/Matti
Totally Agree but. UFPro is at least double the price. I have Striker, Urban etc. About 4 Pair. But from my perspective and i dont do hard stuff with those the quality is not the best. especially the pockets made problems. But yes the are the best thougt through pants from my point of view.
Looking forward to your review!
Great videos in a great contry! Thanks for that.
UF Pro is awesome, but a totally different price category. You can't compare them to RVRC
Thx for the tip. Made a last minute switch. Really happy with my new Striker x gen 3 😁
Thank you for great and honest review !
Tack för en rak och ärlig review 👍🏻 keep it up just så. Söker fortfarande bra hållbara byxor, kör Stellar Equipment just nu men de håller ej i ficksömmarna (lika på 2 olika modeller) samt att kevlaren slits för fort vid fötterna. Blir nån rejälare byxa utan "softshell" tänker jag. Tipsa gärna om du hittar nån riktigt bra 👍🏻
Jag har Fjällräven Keb och Klättermusen Gere som tycks hålla bra. Men allt från dessa märken är INTE bra grejer.
/Matti
Good job! I wanted to buy a RR jacket, and i was googling for phrases like: used RR jacket, or one year old RR jacket. Most of utubers do review of brand new clothes saying how cool and strong they are. And you went on a 5 days long trip! Thats honest, thanks for that and detailed video.
I think twice and do more research on buying new hardshell breathing jacket.
I want to buy it once for at least 5 years. Greetings to north of sweden
Thanks!
I think lots of RUclipsrs get a ‘deal’ or a sticker and then they act as they are ambassadors for the company.
That’s not a real review… ;-)
But remember that there is lots of people out there who actually like RR. They maybe use the gear in a different way than than me!?!?
/Matti
Many thanks for making a constructive, critical video about Revolution Race. Quite a lot of hype, but you simply listed everything that just doesn't fit on the pants! but in a sensible way! it's just more city trousers. thanks for your videos!
Just happened on this review. Entirely agree with the reviewer. They're an odd mix of outdoor gear and fashion item. My chief dislike is how difficult it is to get the very narrow trouser bottoms over my boot and the legs are far too long. Returned them. Settled on Fjallraven Keb and Vidda Pro. Excellent in every way. More expensive, but easy to get discounts, and far superior imo to RR in every respect.
Great review, you can’t beat Fjallraven in my view.
What are the boots you are wearing
I like your review....you are deeply sincere on the deepest facts about the product and I respect this very much....good man....good....down to earth....wear it and feel it review......the real how is it to live with review....good man.
The Lundhags Makke is a very good pair of trousers. I Have two pairs and I am very happy with them.
I have revelation race and they are great, also the vent does work as the air comes from the bottom of the legs and ventilates through the top mesh when the zip is open so they work
I have the gp pro and agree with everything you said.I stopped wearing them because they were so narrow at the leg end. Also if you put them on barefoot the hook that attaches to your bootlaces can catch your toenail and pull it off. Very painful. I will pay more in future for fjallraven.Great video thanks 👍
Thanks and interesting that we are so many people who have the same experience and tjat RVRC don't change something... /Matti
Had close call with my toenail
Whoa! I thought I was the only one who got it in the toenail. Close too but painful indeed. They should write it somewhere cause it is not obvious 🙂
Cut off the lace hook on my gp pro due to nightmares about the toe issue. Also, ankle so tight I can't get them down to my laces anyway!
You peeps do know that there is a little pocket behind or in front of the hook where you can put it in.... then there is no problem with toenails
Interesting review Matti. I don’t own any RR gear but my wife does and a few of my friends do. I’ve never been impressed with the quality of their gear so I’ve yet to be tempted to buy it. I’ll always gravitate towards Fjallraven if I can afford it. Thanks for the review 👍
Fjällräven Keb was good when I got my first pair. I hope that they are still the same quality.
/Matti
You almost make an effort to be annoyed about the product ;-)
I have used GP Pro + zip off's for 2-3 now and I am quite happy with them. The ventilation does work and I use it constantly - I have hiked over 50 km/day for several days in them and zero complains from my side. AND they are about 1/3 of the price of other leading brands..
I will recommend them..
Thanks for this. Trying to find a good pair of hiking pants for my husband. tried a few, and there's always something he doesn't like. my Goldilocks lol last pair he tried, everything was perfect but pockets sucked for cellphone.
Have you tried Fjällräven Keb or Taiga Russel?
/ Matti
very helpful review.
I've considered buying for some time, but the small pockets and slim fit are a no-go, at least as hiking pants.
I might try them for the bike.
Great review! Do you recommended Fjallraven and Lundhags for the pants?
I was superhappy with my Fjällräven Keb but I have friends who had problems with the... then I had an old pair of Lunhags that's great... but there is some comments on this video from people who had problem with some of the newer Lundhags... 😞 /Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Thanks for the answer! Basically you must to buy it and hope that it will be fine 🙂
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA My theory is that most of companies cut the quality these days because the demand is simply too high! Economics in works, hence so high inflation everywhere.
Someone should do review on NORRA LJUNG (high quality Swedish brand).
People that use them swear they are better than anything else in that price range.
I'm waiting for my to come in the next few days.
Hey Matti,
I agree with all your complaints on the RR pants.
I contacted customer service about the black fabric loosing colour and the stupid tightness around the ankles. Only answer I got was 'we will pass it on to our designers' but not any constructive solution.
I still prefer my Fjallraven Vidda Pro and Keb trousers, although I always find the Keb trousers a bit baggy, I could try a size smaller. The RR are just not outdoor trousers. They seem more like urban trousers for people who just want the adventure look.
To me at only Fjallraven stands the test of time. The quality is unbeaten. I had some Garphyttan gear a few years ago, the quality was far below zero, the seams fell apart after 2 hrs of use.
Varusteleka from Finland make a sort copy of the Keb trousers, it is (for the price) a very good budget alternative.
Thanks!
It's sad if the producers don't listen to the users and customers. I can really understand if their target group is city people who want an active outdoor image... But thennthey will also get reviews from outdoor people like this one...
/Matti
Hi @Den Bosmens. Can you be more specific about the Varusteleka pants you recommend. What is the model called etc. And maybe what size you bought, how tall you are, body size etc. Thanks mate 🙏
@lemon8 They are the Varusteleka Särmä Outdoor trousers. I wear a size 'medium long', perfect for my 1m89 and 92 waist. They are good and come with a 12 month warranty. One I had got ripped and within 48hrs I had received a new one.
@@den_bosmens_outdoor Actually I've found the video where they are being reviewed and praised. And i saw your comment there too 😄 Thank you for the quick persons here. I'll probably order a pair though I'm not sure about the size? I'm pretty slim. 70 kg and 1.80 cm. Probably Small Regular?
@@MacGyv3r you can use their size finder, it works quite good.
I have a lot of RVRC gear and it’s superb. The trousers are fantastic and very durable.
I’ve had them out in all conditions.
The fit is excellent and the quality for price is absolutely outstanding
That’s lovely that you find equipment that you like. All types of gear doesn’t fit to everyone. Then it’s good that we got many different brands.
/Matti
Thanks for the review. That quite confirmed some of my thoughts on these pants. Now...that begs the question, which are some makes/ models that you are happy with?
I will come with a kind of review soon with two old pants. Fjällräven Keb and one pair from Lundhahs that have been great. /Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA thanks, looking forward to it!
Thanks a lot for honest review 🙏
Thanks! It makes me happy!
😀
/Matti
Thank you !
I have same skit, they have bought me with the price.
They are advertising them only in Arcteryx boots, which are tiny, and pants fits around of course 😀. I could not put them on my usual Salomon tracking boots at all.
Zippers are breaking despite YKK...
Then we are in the same club.
😀
Idiots that's fooled by RVRC.
😉
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA 👍
everything you point out is exactly what i want. good advertisement. ty
But thats great if you are satisfied with this pants.
;-)
/ Matti
I love them - great quality and great value
Wow I love these pants ,been using them for a few years now 109.00 and they're super durable
RR needs to get design help from ppl who actually use them in real outdoors situations. I totally agree with this review.
Yepp... they just need to talk with a few outdoor people...
/Matti
I can honestly say that RVRC are brilliant. Purchased their baselayers last year and have been very warm in winter conditions in Scotland.
Nice that you like them. For me, there exists other brands that’s much better and necessary not more expensive.
/Matti
Thank You for honest review. Almost everyone who reviewing RR clothing seems to be payed byvthe company. In my opinion it's the same business plan as Daniel Wellington watches.
Two days after this review the chairman of the company was quitting because of bad economy.
I don't think my video made such a big impact so quickly but the coincidence was little bit funny.
😉
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA The economy was good but for short period of time to the moment the customers started (as You) to talk about bad things publicly. RR is overhyped because they pay to the people who reviewing their products (money or free clothes). This is the same situation like mentioned David Wellington watches - overpriced watches with cheap chineese movement hyped by fashion influencers. In my opinion better and cheaper trousers can be find in Decathlon.
Thanx for the honest review
Totally agree with all what in the video. I have GP pro and dream to get red of them. I have modified this pants a bit, but not completly of course. Pockets are usless, what you can put inside? If you bend your leg anything in the pocket very annoy you. I have also anorack jacket, bought togeather. The same, usless for forest hicking. Feel cold in cold weather and feel hot in warm weather. Icompare this clothe with my Helikon Tex Pilligrim series jacket and trousers which is very comfortable in the forest for any activity.
You are absolute right with the things you described. I have several of those pants for dogwalks, small hikes, bikejöring etc. ... and would never buy one again ... so if i had spent the money i spent on rr trousers I could get fjällraven or such similar brands ...
thank you for that
Thanks!
When I'm hard like this to a brand I'm always little bit unsecured before. 'Is it only me?'... Thanks for supporting my opinion. Then I know 'It's not only me'.
😀
/Matti
Fantastic video, thank you!
Thank you for the review. Do you have experience with Sasta? It is a Finnish brand with production in Europe.
No experience of that brand at all!
Are they good?
/Matti
Unfortunately, I also have no experience with the brand. I am looking for a new pant and during the search I became aware of the brand. I find interesting that they produce in Europe. Hälsningnar Harald
@kokkmokk I think you might be in the wrong size and should try using the LARGE. I'd be interested to know if those fit better.
When you tucked the pants over your shoes 😂. And the Oscar goes to...
Haaaahahahaa...
It's really good pants if you want to drag out the frustration from the actors!
😀
/Matti
The RVRC pants is exactly that - made for people who mostly walk around in low shoes in the city. Instagrammers.
Then it's just me who doesn't love this pants. 😀
/Matti
After having used Fjallraven pants for many years under severe conditions in the Alps, I have bought both RR pants in this review and I can fully, fully confirm the findings. The RR pants are relatively cheap, nice looking, good for urban use or light hikes, but they are NOT true outdoor pants.
You were more than fair. Thanks.
I have very similar pants as rvrc pro, but bought from prisma marker for 60€ 2 years of wearing couple falls from mtb on the ground. Some holes, but still alive 😁
Thanks for this indepth review, I hate the fact you can't pull these over the knee, if i was to fall and cut my knee how the hell can I even look at it, I'd have to buy a size or two bigger which wouldn't be good
I agree 100% I have exactly the same problems with RR
You just saved me some money, thank you.
The Revolution race Pro Rescue pants are great for me...they have a zip opening for boots etc and are proving to be tough and durable for work on the farm. We must agree to disagree!! Cheers, Steve
So glad I watched your review... pointless buying funky colours if that's the first thing to go.
cheers
BTW I came here, probably like others I was looking for a cheaper alternative to the Keb and Vidda Pro
Check what Bergans have. They are usually little bit cheaper than Fjällräven.
/Matti
Thank you for this very useful review. I also use the norwand pro pants. And i have the same complains like you. specially the stretchy fabric i find not good and the to small legs. For me till know i find Fjallraven the best, special the Keb i find perfect for me . Also i use lundhags Makke pants, but that is for me the most disappointing pant what i ever bought and terrible expensive. Which brand you advice Matti.
Thanks!
...I just got my Lundhags Makke... Will I destroy them?
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Yes Matti, Yes, especially on your upper legs, the fabric is very thin. You get holes in it very quickly. Especially you with your dogs. When my dog was still a puppy he sometimes jumped against me with his razor sharp thin nails. 1 week and my pants were a cheese hole.
Sorry these pants are really shit, nice design but way too thin and way too expensive. Greetings Raymond
For my opinion it is vary good pants,my oldest pants ar 5-6 year old and every day use and stil good.
I've viewed your video entirety. Very comprehensive. I partly agree that things could be improved such as ventilation and the size of the pockets. But sustainability not good? That is patently incorrect. I use the orange as work trousers: tinkering with cars, carpenter work, welding. Extremely strong, almost indestructible. So I don't understand how you manage the wear. Also take a look at Mastermilo who has been wearing them for ages, they don't break.
Strange... was the pants better back in the days? I know several persons that's not satisfied with the durability but I have also heard a few persons that's really happy with those pants.
/Matti
The guy is right . Great review because the trousers are not fit for purpose. The rab lochans are similar but lighter and far more fit for purpose than those rags that the guy is reviewing. Great truthful review in my book
It's exactly the same as my expirience. I wear GPPro for more one year now, but most of the time in the city. Very comfortable, and the material of my pants does not loose colour and does not get pilling. But the legs are much too tight, indeed. This feature seems to be the main problem of that pant. They very are ok for city use but not the best idea for outdoor. It's the same problem with other models of rvrc: the legs are too tight at the lower end, f.e. rescue pant.
And the size recommandation is very bad.
It seems to me that you have an agenda with RR if you laced your boots up correctly the trousers would go over them easier also if you stood up and bent over the trousers would be easier to pull down rather than your knee being bent 😮 As for the cell phone in pocket issue phones are getting bigger I’m sure when these were designed they did take into consideration the average size of the cell phones 📱 I actually agree with some other points you make ie losing colour and tightness around the waste i own lots of RR products and I’m very happy with them I’ll certainly continue to buy from RR 🇸🇪
I have a pair of these trousers and I totally agree with you. I wouldn't buy them again. They are narrow and too long, I don't get why they use cotton in outdoor pants.
Cotton on the outerlayer could be good. Wind resistance and good durability.
But the design sucks...
😀
/Matti
My opinion is, this is outdoor looking clothes to the city and occasional woods/country hiking. Price is 1/3 of Tilak or Fjällräven so there is that. I must say I love my Cyclone Rescue Jacket 2.0 It is super confortable, love the fit, the materials and the look. But if you want the gear for harsh condition, this is not it, or it would not last long ;)
"They also have a stretch fabric in the ass". Caught me off-guard, got a good laugh from that.
Not only you
Is there a reason you never use Arc’teryx gear? It’s my favorite brand for fit and performance thus far. Durability might not always be the best though
Absolutely not. I would love to use Arc'teryx and see what that is but I don't really know their products and I have no shop close to me who have them at home so I can look at them. But I'm really open for tem and another brand I see lots of people wearing with happy smile is Rab. I want to test that to.
😀
/Matti
The rescue pants are far better at the ankle. But true, I can't get the gpx over my Salewa boots!
I have 2 items in my shoppingcar, but i'm going to look for pants from other brands as well before deciding to buy it..
Sorry... but I think you will finde something better than RVRC...
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA that's okay, I'm glad I found this video haha :)
Thanks for the honest review, I has my concerns about the width of the legs and this confirms it. I'll stick with Fjallraven. I have watched several reviews for RR gear and those that are really in favor seem to be fan boys that will never see anything wrong with them. e.g. one reviewer said they really like the hand warming material on the back of the Napoleon pockets on a jacket, but how would that practically work? you would have to have your arms crossed over your chest with your hands in opposite sides, just mad not practical. Another showed the calf zip not closing all the way down when worn over boots (so would collect debris). They are very stylish but fail practically when out of the city. And..... If you had designed a great pant, why would you reverse the materials? it either works or as you have shown, it's just more about fashion. Think of them as skinny jeans for the outdoors. 🤣
Vad tycker du om klättermusen nu? Känns som produkterna är gjorda för kaffe på söder nuförtiden när man ser reklamen, håller dom fortfarande?
Helt enig ang Klättermusen. Har två par Gere som är super men tunga. /Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA När jag vandrar så använder jag The North Face Speedlight. Tunna 4-vägsstrech. De är klockrena torkar snabbt, bra sömmar (många andra byxor jag haft så har kvaliten på sömmarna varit sisådär). En av orsakerna till dom byxorna är just för jag kan dra dom upp över knäna utan problem, sedan så har jag dom alrdrig över kängorna eftersom då svettas jag mer om fötterna och blir blötare (Lundhags Syncro). Jag tror att de antagligen att de inte skulle fungera för dig, tänker framför allt med hundar och att du är nere på knä mycket, misstänker att de skulle gå sönder snabbt av sådan användning. Har också ett par Gere 2.0, fast tycker dom är för varma att vandra i. Kör mina speedlight och sedan drar över tunna jaktregnbyxor om det blir för kallt, blåser eller regnar.
I am a very big fan of the Fjallraven brand, so big that I have a tattoo of the logo on my leg. I've been wearing the brand for over 25 years and it's durable and reliable but that comes with a price tag. A comparison with Revultion race is therefore not entirely valid, it is almost twice as cheap as Fjallraven or other outdoor brands. This brand is made for people with a slightly smaller budget who still want to wear outdoor clothing.
Some of the gear from Fjällräven is great!!!
...and if you have a smäller budget there is still other brands than RVRC that also make pants that's better. 😀
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA what are the cheap and better alternatives?
Is this guy a shill for Fjallraven? I own several pairs of Fjallraven and can testify these Revolution Race are almost the exact same pants at half the price. I spent close to a grand on Fjallraven gear and already worn through (large holes in friction areas) two pairs of their ‘durable’ canvas within a month of regular wear. These RevRace are considerably more durable product and they fit better too. I have muscular legs from 5K races and weight train regularly and the fit is wonderful. I actually find the Fjallraven to be ridiculously overpriced, nowhere near as durable and the sizing as way way too long because they’re designed for super tall Scandinavian dudes. Fjallraven kit also needs constant wax reproofing whereas the RevRace kit is good to go from without proofing because they have integrated protection. Thanks for the video but sorry I don’t agree. My only gripe is the sewn on logo is a bit cheap looking; If they made it in bonded heat embossed leather they’d put Fjallraven out of business!
Totally agree about the durability of Fjallraven trousers. The only pair I've ever had that hasn't worn out prematurely are the hyper-expensive Keb Touring, which are structurally softshell with cosmetic overlays of the useless G-1000. Since G-1000 is Fjallraven's signature material they're stuck with it but it's 'durability' is a JOKE. After wearing out several pairs of trousers made from G-1000 in very short order I'm done with it. Talking to Fjallraven about this resulted in a complete denial by them of G-1000's shortcomings. The Tourings are fine but heavy so I've also acquired a pair of Montane Terra Missions which have already survived the sort of use that would have seen off a couple of pairs of Abisko Lites with no apparent deterioration.
I like the fit of Fjallraven trousers, as I need the long leg length, but no more G-1000 for me so the only ones I'd even consider would be the Keb Touring or the lighter Keb Lite, which don't use the G-1000 structurally but only, with a nod to it's 'iconic' status, as a cosmetic overlay.
Edit: I believe the Keb Lite has been dropped and its replacement is the Keb Agile.
Agree, but it's different things that don't work on Revolution Race and Fjällräven. I don't like any of them. Haven't found what is useful for me. Bought Norrøna and Devold pants yesterday, let's see
He shows in the video that the revolution race lost color without even being washed once, and RR puts stretch matetial in the knees and ass, where you knee and sit at... So you want to tell me that these RR trousers are more durable and long-lasting than G1000 trousers with a double layer on the knees? I would love to hear your opinion a few years from now, but people aren't honest enough to come back.
Agreed. I’m an arborist myself. Ware and tear is extreme on my gear. These pants hold up very well. Waterproof well. Pocket material could be thicker but I don’t think that’s gonna be a problem for most ppl
@@subsonicelf9271you wear these pants for climbing?
As a talk guy who does powerlifter on a amateur level i can't fit in them but to be fair I have a hard time to fit in any outdoor pants without breaking the seems
Stellar Equipment have the same idea (sell directly online with no intermediaries). Have you tried any of their clothes and planning a review?
Jag har aldrig testat det märket. Har de bra grejer?
/Matti
I have 2 pants von rr. Changes to helikon and clwagear
Exactly what i told them ,when i send the pants back....
If you want a cheap Fjällräven alternative then consider Helikon tex
That’s a new name for me! Thanks. I will check out that.
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA yeah their stuff is excellent for the price. They are a polish brand, full ykk zippers etc. They have a bushcraft range. Check out their Pilgrim and Woodsman range. The anoraks are very good for a third of price of fjällräven.
The RVRC pants are great price performance for sports and bushcraft very good utility.
The long legs are designed long so you can have them tailored to correct sizing
Sorry... it's not like that. The lower part of the leg got the zipper etc sp it's not made for cutting of like the old Fjällräven was. /Matti
super prezentacja
I had the RR waterproof trousers, but they aren’t even slightly waterproof. They are tough and hardy and feel like cardboard. But waterproof???? For maybe 35 minutes tops, before the water starts pouring in.
Sorry for that. It’s very irritating to get equipment that’s not working.
/Matti
best review ever
Thanks!
Everybody on youtube doesn't like this... 😉
/Matti
Awesome looking pants, but I guess I may just have to pass after seeing a real good review. Maybe the zip offs would be good?
I would go for another brand even with zip-off... /Matti
Are they much cheaper in Sweden than Haglofs and Fjallraven?
Half the price almost.
/Matti
Rad Boots! What brand? Thx!
What is high quality brand for you? Fjällräven has really strange fitting too (for me)
That's a great question...
Fjällräven Keb are strong but very bulky for me. Klättermusen Gere is good but heavy and warm.
I'm still looking.
I had one pair of Montana that was boooooring grey and I couldn't kill them. 😀
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA try Mammut or Salewa
I agree with all your complaints on the RR pants.
I contacted customer service about the black fabric loosing colour and the stupid tightness around the ankles. Only answer I got was 'we will pass it on to our designers' but not any constructive solution.
I still prefer my Fjallraven Vidda Pro and Keb trousers, although I always find the Keb trousers a bit baggy. The RR are just not outdoor trousers. They seem more like urban trousers for people who just want the adventure look.
I only became aware of RR in an unnatural way, through an incredible amount of advertising. When I saw that these indestructible pants cost $100, I couldn't stop laughing, and now that I know that they put stretch on ass and knees, I see that they are a fashion brand and no outdoor gear brand! Especially as a nature lover, you have to know whether you want to buy pants for €100 that only years later end up in the garbage dump with their plastic...
Revolution race go pro trousers have the zipper on the bottom of the legs,which is great for boots,they should incorporate this in all there trousers…
I agree... it's just silly to not have the zippers.
Beroende på vad man ska göra använda dem till så funkar de bra. Däremot är deras prissättning och marknadsföring lite fullt. Det känns som de alltid har rea, och det är bara då de är prisvärda. De har höjt priser flera gånger under åren.
Priserna går ju upp med åren men du har rätt. Är det inte rea så är det väldigt dyra byxor i förhållande till vad man får.
/Matti
What jacket over the buttocks and pants are better for rainy days?
I went down the revolution race rathole and bought lots of clothing only to realise like you it’s not the best for hiking over mountains and the fit is questionable. Could you recommend a brand worthy of me doing some research into. Cheers
Not only you, but fortunately I just bought 1 discounted set to try out. Id say try brands like: Lundhag, Pinewood, Arcteryx, Härkila, maybe Patagonia, Columbia..
@@2hug thanks bud, Not a complete waste of money since I just use them for work now. We have to give these companies a go. I’m done with the trousers tho. 👍🏻
Very good review and lol 👍😅
Thanks!!!
😀
/Matti
Wie pflege ich die Hosen am besten?
I found the brand is for cityfolks wanting to look fabulous when outdoors. Practicality havent really been given much thougt i think.
The story says they could not find chlothes that really fit them and therefor they started this company. My theory is they are in fact cityfolks that did not find outdoor clothings that LOOKED good enough on them
Yep. For the guys that drive mall crawlers that don’t want the “tactical” beards and coffee look.
I have 4 pairs of Haglofs rugged pant.
I have to test them... Not yours of course... I had to buy my own pants.
😀
/Matti
As you say, it's a long-term investment.
It's a design choice. They have built the succes of their company by targeting those who buy their items for the looks. If you are on a small day hike, it doesn't really matter that much. Even a pair of jeans would do. They obviously sell primarily for people who uses them everyday on the street. Their marketing is all about slick looks.
True...
But also, for these users, there are better choices!
/Matti
Came for the review, stayed for the cool accent