Bryan Gould and Roy Jenkins had been in the parliamentary Labour Party together in the 1970s. Gould lost his seat in 1979 but got back into Parliament in the 1983 election
Hello from 2024. Cyril Smith was invited to a social gathering at my great great aunts house (she was living in Britain at the time ,in the early 80’s.) At this party in Rochdale Smith zoomed in on my aunt’s son who was 11 years old. My aunts son hid in the bathroom but Smith pushed his way in. He got his 🍆 out and approached the lad‼️ luckily my aunts son ran between Smiths legs and escaped. God knows what Smith would’ve done to the boy😳 The leaders of his party knew what he was like but ignored it,the 💩heads🤬🤬
The SPD was an interesting idea and perhaps had events such as Benn's defeat for deputy leader and the Falkland's War not intervened, maybe something could have come of it. But the whole "Alliance" thing with the Liberals was just a disaster. You start a new party it has to stand on its own two feet and stand for something. To stand for electoral gamesmanship all the while the average voter is wondering why the Gang of Four didn't just join the Liberal Party or why nor just merge the parties (which ultimately did happen) was electoral malpractice pure and simple and many careers ruined as a result
'This was their main and lasting contribution to British politics.' And it was their attention. There was a significant CIA input into the SDP. www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/l31whowh.htm
Not so. There are a lot of studies that show that if the SDP hadn't come about then the Tory majority in 1983 and 1987 would have been even bigger because many disillusioned Labour voters would have switched directly to the Tories.
@@zeddeka That is the point! Matthew Goodwin has tried to elucidate how the extremism is rooted in the disaffection with the hollow centre. The lack of any 'normal' voices leaves the ordinary person completely disenfranchised from politics. Tony Blair got this and won two huge elections despite not getting all of the media onside. Being in "the centre" has almost nothing to do with indecision or woolly-headedness. The Gang of Four were visionaries and we owe them our current existence.
December 2019, the party is back on the national stage and up for 20 seats: wiki your constituency and see if they're standing, then vote for them (Tooting and Tottenham, in London).
The SDP are now up to around 91 Prospective Parliamentary Candidates in the upcoming General Election, which entitles the party to a party political broadcast in England (79 threshold). Many people are joining the party - like myself who previously belonged to no party - because the political programme is so good.
@@andrewrobinson8305 Because many voters want nothing to do with either Labour or the Tories who have run our country into the ground, particularly as regards mass migration, the housing crisis, the increasing wealth gap, the failures in health provision...
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because of the gang of four foots chance of winning was ruined. at a time when labour should of untied they were never so apart so we got 18 years of torys
Not so. In many instances, the people who voted SDP would have voted Tory instead. There have been quite a lot of studies showing that if the SDP had never existed, the Tory majority in 1983 would have been even higher. The labour party was massively unpopular
@@zeddeka prior to falklands labour led massively in the polls, people fell for the jingoistic nonsense of Thatcher and "new politics" of Jenkins and fucked the country
@@tomgibson6801 Not true. The Tories had roughly caught up with Labour by Spring 1982, as inflation began to fall and growth began to return. The SDP and Liberals got a lot of support from One Nation Tories, moreso than from social democratic Labour voters.
you don't know - you're correct about that. it was Labour that betrayed the country and the working class, as they still do today. the SDP saved this country from the evil of socialism.
Bryan Gould and Roy Jenkins had been in the parliamentary Labour Party together in the 1970s. Gould lost his seat in 1979 but got back into Parliament in the 1983 election
Funny to hear Bryan Gould working as a TV reporter, before his days in the Labour Shadow Cabinet...
He had been an MP until 1979 too
20:06 Exposed as a disgusting child rapist in 2012. Cyril Smith
Hello from 2024.
Cyril Smith was invited to a social gathering at my great great aunts house (she was living in Britain at the time ,in the early 80’s.) At this party in Rochdale Smith zoomed in on my aunt’s son who was 11 years old. My aunts son hid in the bathroom but Smith pushed his way in. He got his 🍆 out and approached the lad‼️ luckily my aunts son ran between Smiths legs and escaped. God knows what Smith would’ve done to the boy😳
The leaders of his party knew what he was like but ignored it,the 💩heads🤬🤬
Forget the new party; I want to know what the hell he was looking at at 17:53 that had him so transfixed.
was that successful launch or lunch he said? After all we are talking about Wadical Woy Jenkins!
I would have chosen purple as the party color, a mix of blue and red
And brown 💩
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The SPD was an interesting idea and perhaps had events such as Benn's defeat for deputy leader and the Falkland's War not intervened, maybe something could have come of it. But the whole "Alliance" thing with the Liberals was just a disaster. You start a new party it has to stand on its own two feet and stand for something. To stand for electoral gamesmanship all the while the average voter is wondering why the Gang of Four didn't just join the Liberal Party or why nor just merge the parties (which ultimately did happen) was electoral malpractice pure and simple and many careers ruined as a result
Sorry but I keep thinking of Spitting Image when I see this....
Same here.
Spitting Image brought me here? 😁😁😁
Dennis healey spitting image. 😅
These lot split the left of centre vote and thereby helped Thatcher keep power. This was their main and lasting contribution to British politics.
'This was their main and lasting contribution to British politics.' And it was their attention. There was a significant CIA input into the SDP.
www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/l31whowh.htm
john tudor hallelujah gang of bastards
Not so. There are a lot of studies that show that if the SDP hadn't come about then the Tory majority in 1983 and 1987 would have been even bigger because many disillusioned Labour voters would have switched directly to the Tories.
Labour consistently abandon the centre left
@@zeddeka That is the point! Matthew Goodwin has tried to elucidate how the extremism is rooted in the disaffection with the hollow centre. The lack of any 'normal' voices leaves the ordinary person completely disenfranchised from politics. Tony Blair got this and won two huge elections despite not getting all of the media onside. Being in "the centre" has almost nothing to do with indecision or woolly-headedness. The Gang of Four were visionaries and we owe them our current existence.
December 2019, the party is back on the national stage and up for 20 seats: wiki your constituency and see if they're standing, then vote for them (Tooting and Tottenham, in London).
They didn't do very well did they. With crazy UKIP Patrick O'Flynn on the ballot
Why?
The SDP are now up to around 91 Prospective Parliamentary Candidates in the upcoming General Election, which entitles the party to a party political broadcast in England (79 threshold). Many people are joining the party - like myself who previously belonged to no party - because the political programme is so good.
@@andrewrobinson8305 Because many voters want nothing to do with either Labour or the Tories who have run our country into the ground, particularly as regards mass migration, the housing crisis, the increasing wealth gap, the failures in health provision...
Fantastic stuff
Is another split on the cards not only for Labour under Starmer but also for the Torys
@NOWHERE PEOPLE He could join George Galloway's party. That's the closest he can get to Old Labour.
@NOWHERE PEOPLE Corbyn split the party the way Foot did. If Corbyn and co feel they can do better then carry on
This could be happening again soon...
And so it did, the sequel came out today!
@@wildsurfer12 I don't think the plotters will enjoy the same success as the SDP. Doesn't look like they'll get a single MP
'This could be happening again soon...' With the same result.
So whatever happened to Chuka Umunna's breakaway party?!
They split the left vote and help keep Mrs T in power
Too many commercials
They did hit pieces even then.
well we know what bryan gould made of all this in the end!
Not much as he became a Labour MP and ran for Leader in 1992.
Three decent social democratic politicians- shame about Owen who sold out on the European Union
I thought he wanted the UK to leave the European Union.
@@stevebbuk Yes, that's why he was a sell-out.
Owen explained, that it was the Common Market that he supported back in the day, not the EU, which came much latter
Dr Death , Wadical Woy, Shirley Poppins
Docial Semocrats
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Traitors 🤬
Healey founded the bilderberg group
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because of the gang of four foots chance of winning was ruined. at a time when labour should of untied they were never so apart so we got 18 years of torys
Not so. In many instances, the people who voted SDP would have voted Tory instead. There have been quite a lot of studies showing that if the SDP had never existed, the Tory majority in 1983 would have been even higher. The labour party was massively unpopular
@@zeddeka prior to falklands labour led massively in the polls, people fell for the jingoistic nonsense of Thatcher and "new politics" of Jenkins and fucked the country
@@tomgibson6801 Not true. The Tories had roughly caught up with Labour by Spring 1982, as inflation began to fall and growth began to return.
The SDP and Liberals got a lot of support from One Nation Tories, moreso than from social democratic Labour voters.
Traitors
you don't know - you're correct about that. it was Labour that betrayed the country and the working class, as they still do today. the SDP saved this country from the evil of socialism.
@@zachsmith5515 Saved the U.K. by allowing Thatcher to win? Save me time and just tell me you’re out of touch!
@@zachsmith5515 You're referring to Blair?
Traitors.
Too many commercials