Arikara: The (False?) Spirit of Vengeance | World of Warcraft
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Happy Friday, everybody! Today, we brave the harsh landscape of Thousand Needles to investigate an ancient tauren tale reborn: Arikara, the spirit of vengeance. Is the Earth Mother responsible for a valid retribution, or are bad actors to blame for a political plot?
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Blizzard Entertainment's World of Warcraft (2004-)
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"Westfall" and "Tavern (Tauren)" from the WoW OST
Outro Music:
"Watch Me (Live)" by Greta Van Fleet
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My understanding was that anyone with a lot of vengeance in their heart could summon (or manifest subconsciously) Arikara. With that in mind, my theory is that Makaba Flathoof summoned it in vengeance for the razing of Camp Aparaje, and the target is Magatha herself, and that's why she lies about the real target and wants to stop it.
Bringing in Makaba to the story is interesting!! I hadn't thought of him :D
Magatha is one of those characters that is so obviously evil to us players but for some reason no one else in the Horde sees it lol.
Yeah XD
I really wish they would 'retcon' the cataclysm in a sense and build a wall to undo the flood) - thousand needles had such an amazing vibe before
Here's hoping that if they do end up doing a revamp of the world that some of the zones greatly affected by the Cataclysm are changed up! i really like your idea of somehow making a dam or wall for the zone.
That would be so cool! I agree about the Classic vibe :)
As a mostly Alliance player I'd never seen these quests before. What a cool quest to stash away in the Thousand Needles!
Right? It was very fun to discover :D
Magatha is definitely not "painted as a Bloodhoof loyalist" in Vanilla WoW. It's no secret she's still in charge of the Grimtotems we fight all over Kalimdor, constantly sparring with Cairne over the future of the tauren. That much is spelled out in the game manual itself. She's his chief rival and allowed in Thunder Bluff ("where tauren of all tribes are welcome") BECAUSE she is so respected (as seen with people like Motega Firemane showing such deference to her).
Will always appreciate the mystery of quests like this one though, where there's clearly more going on, but the game doesn't spell it out. I always figured Magatha was trying to save herself from Arikara given her own shady history, but the idea she potentially engineered an appearance by "the spirit of vengeance" to strike down her political rival is intriguing. Quite literally.
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Thank You for the input! I appreciate that. :)
I know this is bit of an aside, but given where things are heading in retail wow, I hope they make some Tauren npc front and center when they finally commune with the world-spirit. I mean - they have worshipped the Earth mother all this time. It would be a shame to not utilize that angle somehow and shoehorn one of their usuals (Jaina, Sylvanas, whoever) in instead.
Agreed!! Bring back some of the sidelined characters to the forefront. :)
I might have said this already but I’m a huge fan of the little voiced sections you do! They add so much more character than just having an AI read them. Stellar video as always!
Thanks so much! I remember you mentioning it a while back... you're one of the reasons I keep doing them! And because they're fun XD
Uh oh my bad - I guess I just really wanted to make sure you knew lol! Glad to hear, keep them coming!
me and a friend were talking about the earthmother, elune (Mu'she) and An'she, aka Azeroth, the big moon, and sun in wow lore. my friend brought up a good point. if elune and the earth mother are a thing, why is An'she not a thing? is the Sun a Naaru? great video as always. stay gold.
Solid point! The only real evidence we have is that a dark naaru was once known as the "Dark Star" so suns/stars could be powered by Light/Naaru as well? We will have to see ;)
Would have never found out about this. And ive alwats done the Alien Egg chain!
Glad I could give you some new details about this! ;)
4:12 "Moving past this conversation, Horde players eventually travel to the Dark Cloud Pinnacle, summon Arikara and slay the beast" That is definitively NOT what 11-old-me remembers. I genuinly remember abandonning the question because : I died from fall, I lost my way trop the Thousand Needles, I made my way back to the Pinnacle by slaying my own race, and I fell again. This time I found a way, and died again.
At least it gave me a very strong impression.
Hey, those adventures are the best kind... sometimes only in hindsight XD
These videos are so interesting. They are really giving me a completely different experience of the quests in Classic. Fantastic stuff.
I'm so glad you're liking them! :)
Sounds like an epic beast that'd yeild some buff food and some sweet loot in a d&d campaign.
Totally! :D
i mean,magatha is the reason why cairne was killed by garrosh in their fight. she was the one who coated gorehowl with the poison that would claim cairne's life. so her creating arikara to take him out would make a lot of sense. elune only knows how many times she tried to take him out that the player hasnt seen.
Yes! After Cata she definitely became a known villain and wasn't hiding it anymore! :o
Cairnes death was the thing i hated the most from Cata. Killing offscreen and uneventfully one of the leaders of the horde? Really? His death didnt even serve as Garrosh character development.
Also
Cairne:
-one of the oldest and wisest warriors of the horde and kalimdor
-loyal to Thrall and the horde
-respected by the Tauren tribes, except for the grimtotem who were scum anyways
-wasnt involved in anything shady, old gods or the legion.
-charismatic ah
Garrosh:
-his dad was Grom Hellscream
-his other dad was Thrall
Nepotism was the downfall of the horde
I always thought they would use Magatha as maybe a raid boss or at least a dungeon boss . I know in Cata she got some powerful item from the Twilight Hammer guys but im pretty sure she loses that in the Shammy campaign in Legion and her current location is unknown.
I would be nice to see her in a future deal where she could be the final boss in a story line involving the Tauren and perhaps leading to a new dungeon in the old world
Great thoughts! She is definitely an underused character in many regards...
We've known the Earth Mother has been Azeroth for a few expansions now.
That is one interpretation of it... I wonder if this is a retcon or if all the Classic references can still be explained using the world-soul in its place?
Such a great video. Thank you Jedi.
You are welcome! :)
I love this channel. It is the first channel I like to watch when I am feeling sick. The presentation is chill and the info is interesting. Thank you
I'm so glad to hear it! :)
Great video. I've always wondered what was going on behind the scenes while doing the Arikara chain, Magatha always felt like a villain.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)
Hi Jedi!
I wish there was more lore for the Grimtotem beyond just "we're bad and untrustworthy and violent for the sake of internal strife". The orcish Shadow Council has good lore for being bad. The human Defias Brotherhood has good lore for being bad. The Grimtotem? Nah.
I agree! With all the conflict with the centaur there wasn't much of a reason for tauren to abandon an alliance that would help protect their land... it seems they are just being contrarians XD
Oh wow, I had forgotten about this quest. It's been 17 years. Brings back memories. Always loved the classic Tauren zones.
So peaceful and isolated! :)
magatha has to be the most interesting under used character, appropriate considering shes a tauren, the most under used race
I agree! They definitely could bring her back in the future for something big related to the Tauren...
Nice lore! I did this quest during hardcore not so long ago! x)
Nice! :D
really enjoy your content... much better than playing myself and getting addicted again and end up raiding 3 days a week in a progress guild + raiding with a twink 😣
its so awesome how every faction provides its own unique way to experience the world of warcraft!
Very true! So many unique experiences :)
Thank you so much for these videos :) Really enjoy the lore of the game and you always find stories and theories that i'm not familiar with. Can't wait for the next one! Thanks again
You are very welcome :)
I would love to know about more quests that deal with Tauren and The Earth Mother, please. This is fascinating. And exciting! I enjoy your videos like this and the one about the Red Ridge rocks. They just fill in small details that fill out this world. So thank you!
I'll have to investigate! I'm glad you're enjoying them :)
@@Jediwarlock Thank you so much! Also, Pyromancer (RUclipsr) went over this video of yours. I know I suggested he do so, and I think others did as well! This one was terrific! And covered something that was not known 1) because they removed it, and 2) It was simply forgotten and 3) not essential to know till NOW, and the Ahnshay (sp?) and Musha 'children's' tale. So thank you!
@@Garouwerks Wait, really? That's awesome!! I'm honored :D
@@Jediwarlock yes. And he really enjoyed it. I would link it, but RUclips would only delete it. History and Lore of Classic WoW is really hard to find now, due to Cata, and the change in the game. You really gathered up some fantastic Lore and information. You always do. I'm glad he took a look see at your video.
I was happy to mention it. :)
Looking forward to rock talk or Lore.
Very cool. I had never even heard of this quest.
I hadn't either until I tried Horde just a few years ago ;)
very cool!
Thanks! :)
New Warlock video! Hype :)
:D
Another great video.
Thanks! :)
honestly i always figured arikara was going after magatha for the crimes of the grimtotem, or that it was manifested by her to justify taking cairne out. she schemes and lies and it was no secret shed do away with cairne if she could even before she actually did in cataclysm 🤔
Yeah! She really showed her true colors during Cata :o
I’m pretty sure we know who Earthmother is now.. or we at least have an idea who that might be.
Oh yeah! Lots of ideas going around :)
@@Jediwarlock Azeroth?
i think it could be a serpent of hakkar maybe one of the sand trolls from tanaris corrupted one of the wind serpents and the wind serpent later layed an egg which then was mistook for Arikara
taurens sometimes mistake things for being something else like when they thought the earthmother was under desolace only to wake up princes theradras
why i think it could be hakkar's: its RED the color of blood and same as the color of the hakkari wind serpents there are trolls in tanaris that use blood magic like the blooddrinkers and Hakkar is the blood god and is incredibley agressive and viscious so was arikara as soon as it was born also there's literally a follower of Hakkar in the dock in tanaris that is trying to summon him and tricking us in doing so also to revive hakkar we need 3 wind serpent souls so another connection to wind serpents
YES! Great details to point out... wind serpents are definitely linked to Hakkar (probably most of them in a generational sense, not direct followers) and it would make sense for that troll Yeh'kinya to perhaps use another one in some sort of scheme ;) I like it!
ohh shiiit this is spicyyy
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Maev is the only spirit of vengeance for me
VENGEANCE
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