I have the new Red 1X and I switch chainrings between a 46 and a 42, I actually like the threaded ring better when running the PM. Fewer items that can be stripped or seized.
We definitely need to move this direction for the 2x chainrings. I have fully upgraded my road bike to the new Red with the exception of the new crank/PM chainring with hopes it'll happen.
It's also worth noting, at least here in the US, that it's cheaper to buy the Red XPLR crank arms, PM spider, and chainring all separate instead of as an assembly. $50 cheaper, which almost covers the cost of the tool.
Do dual chainrings for this system exist? I have loste track of the 1001 SRAM chainset options. One could ask why it screws on from the bike side. Would have been nice if you could remove the chainring with the cranks staying on the bike.
That is cool. There should be a way to do it with the chain on the bike no? Affix the crank arm and spin the rear wheel backwards like a big lever? Or a chain whip? You just need to hold the crank still. I’d have to see it. But I wouldn’t buy a sram red so I won’t know.
SRAM keep changing things. Their road cranksets have gone through at least three kinds of spindles: GXP (22 mm non-drive side, 24 mm the rest of the way) 30 mm DUB (28.99 mm) Shimano on the other hand, stuck with 24 mm spindles for years.
@@yonglingng5640 Really appreciate Shimano on this end really, even for their 12s cassettes, didn't need to use a different freehub body as the current 11s body was already compatible with the 12s. They may move to microspline if they introduce a 10t, but their chainring tooth combinations give them enough range to not need it like SRAM imo.
I'll stick with my 4iiii power meter. much easier to get off. This almost looks like it's overly complicated overly engineered, a solution for a problem that does not exist 🙂.
The change to threaded chain ring make little sense on 1-by systems. Now we have to remove the crank to swap chain rings. Guess I’ll stick with my previous generation 4 bolt power meter spider - where I can swap rings without removing the crank.
I appreciate my Favero pedal PMs for the simplicity for this aspect, they're a bit heavier than spider-based PMs but they're definitely easier to install and move around bikes imo. I even bring them on trips where I may rent a bike and couldn't bring my own for some reason.
Never fear, SRAM lawyers are hard at work filing a patent for an asymmetric pattern torx-ish head crank bolt so that they can sell you a proprietary 24" breaker bar to remove your crank arms. Oil slick launch edition coming to a stocking near you, December 2024.
The final animation was worth the time you spent making it.
Best use of 25 seconds today. 🤣
Better than having to replace the entire spider/pm once the rings wear out. Easy enough.
I have the new Red 1X and I switch chainrings between a 46 and a 42, I actually like the threaded ring better when running the PM. Fewer items that can be stripped or seized.
We definitely need to move this direction for the 2x chainrings. I have fully upgraded my road bike to the new Red with the exception of the new crank/PM chainring with hopes it'll happen.
It's also worth noting, at least here in the US, that it's cheaper to buy the Red XPLR crank arms, PM spider, and chainring all separate instead of as an assembly. $50 cheaper, which almost covers the cost of the tool.
not on SRAM, but there is a certain mechanical satisfaction of using a well designed tool on your bike
I was expecting an Earth-shattering kaboom!
Why can't use a chain whip, while standing on the paddle?
Does any recalibration need to be done to the power meter after the swap over?
Nothing mentioned in the SRAM documentation, iirc. I’d do a manual zero after a few hard stomps when the chainring is first used.
Do dual chainrings for this system exist? I have loste track of the 1001 SRAM chainset options. One could ask why it screws on from the bike side. Would have been nice if you could remove the chainring with the cranks staying on the bike.
That is cool. There should be a way to do it with the chain on the bike no? Affix the crank arm and spin the rear wheel backwards like a big lever? Or a chain whip? You just need to hold the crank still. I’d have to see it. But I wouldn’t buy a sram red so I won’t know.
No way. What you described, is tightening the chainring via pedaling force.
Why doesn't a chain whip with a long piece of chain work? Seems like it was made just to sell another tool.
So crunchy.
Seems like a chain whip with a long piece of chain in a vice would do the same job.
And they say SRAM is more intuitive???? No.1 rule in design, KISS (keep it simple SRAM)
I see what you did there.
SRAM keep changing things. Their road cranksets have gone through at least three kinds of spindles:
GXP (22 mm non-drive side, 24 mm the rest of the way)
30 mm
DUB (28.99 mm)
Shimano on the other hand, stuck with 24 mm spindles for years.
@@yonglingng5640 Really appreciate Shimano on this end really, even for their 12s cassettes, didn't need to use a different freehub body as the current 11s body was already compatible with the 12s. They may move to microspline if they introduce a 10t, but their chainring tooth combinations give them enough range to not need it like SRAM imo.
@@yonglingng5640larger diameter spindles have advantages
At least it didn’t start ”for those people who still have a threaded Sram chainring” 😉
2:36 I am here just for the kaboons. Can we temporarily change your name to Rico 🧨🎇🎆?
Can't you not just use a chainwhip to remove the chainring
You could try..... but there's nowhere to anchor it to with a standard chainwhip.
Definitely, just make sure the chain is long enough as most chainwhips are designed for small cogs
@@gplama You could put the crank arm in a padded bench vise.
I'll stick with my 4iiii power meter. much easier to get off. This almost looks like it's overly complicated overly engineered, a solution for a problem that does not exist 🙂.
If they can do this, why on earth make a non-replaceable one 🤯
SRAM had acquired that power meter brand and they didn't have enough time to develop a new interface/standard.
Nobody wants tools that only works on one product with a proprietary standard.
The change to threaded chain ring make little sense on 1-by systems. Now we have to remove the crank to swap chain rings. Guess I’ll stick with my previous generation 4 bolt power meter spider - where I can swap rings without removing the crank.
I appreciate my Favero pedal PMs for the simplicity for this aspect, they're a bit heavier than spider-based PMs but they're definitely easier to install and move around bikes imo. I even bring them on trips where I may rent a bike and couldn't bring my own for some reason.
We don't need this. Boycott sram
Never fear, SRAM lawyers are hard at work filing a patent for an asymmetric pattern torx-ish head crank bolt so that they can sell you a proprietary 24" breaker bar to remove your crank arms. Oil slick launch edition coming to a stocking near you, December 2024.
For those with the upper body strength of Chris Froome, a 36" version is available for special order.
Rainbow Torx! I’d buy it. 😉
Sram the jokers
First! 🙂