@ Once again you people allow your ego's to take over.All my life it has been the same.ALL YOU are PERFECT and CHOSEN in the eyes of God and I am a bucket of shit.The BIBLE says be nice to strangers as some are messengers of God.BUT you and the rest ALL KNOW that it couldnt be me.I am a piece of shit arent I?YOU and ALL the rest are so full of yourselves that you believe you know every experience every person has had.You have no idea of my experiences or interaction with the One True God.NONE?Shamoun condemned himself.He is going to hell.Come and ridicule me like he did and you can join him.
Thomas called Jesus his Lord and "God" in the gospel of John 20:28 and Jesus did not rebuke him. If Jesus was not God, then Thomas would have been rebuked.
@Ronnie-y5v9b satan is called god Moses was called god Judges were called gods The apostles knew jesus was the Messiah the son of the living God So thats why i said i doubt thomas was calling jesus God almighty
@"How can anyone demonstrate that Julius Caesar was a Roman emperor without reading the historical sources?" There are documents from other historical figures describing his military events. There are also personal letters from contemporary figures also detailing his actions. There are also statues and buildings created during his life constructed and built to and by him. Regardless, the problem with jesus is proving he was the son of god. Caesars wasn't a supernatural being.
1.The quran is not the bible yet it says Jesus is divine by being able to create life by breathing life into clay birds and other miracles( even though quran has issues in authenticity)BUT hey you said other than the bible. 2.Buddhism says Jesus was holy enlightened and had previous lives. 3Hinduism says Jesus is Sadhu. 4Baha i faith says Jesus is a manifestation of God and his sacrifice purified the world. 5 Five other references outside the bible Josephuses antiquities,Telmud,Midrash,Mara Bar Serapion. Now that it is established, let's go back to the True Bible and see who he actually is and see why he was crucified for saying he was God.
It was satan that took the authority that took the Athority that Adam had because Adam sinned and it took Jesus ( the son of man ) to take it from satan and give it back to man cause Jesua is a man and could only save us as a man, the last Adam, but a sinless man ( the perfect sacrfice ) and even satan didn't know who Jesus was being God in the flesh cause his glory was hidden however some of these muslims won't receive the truth so they can't. I used to talk to people who wanted to understand this more better and all I could tell them from my limited thinkig in order to help them gain some kind of understanding. All of all creation, every star and planet and everything on them exists within the infinate living mind of God, His imagination is our reality except however we can cause he allows us to effect it, now, imagine your own planet any way you want it to be and then imagine people on your planet any way you want them to be now, imagine walking around shaking hands and talking with your people on your planet that you imagined and now ask yourself, are you any less god over the world you created in your mind just because you're walking on it ? That's the best I could do from such a limited way of thinking.
2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 1 John 4:3 - And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
I personally struggle a bit with this topic and just dont bring it up much. My fiance is christian and so am I; however she comes from a Muslim family and her country of origin is also an islamic controlled state. She is very sympathetic to it even though she doesnt believe the same. We have had what I thought were simply me pointing things out that I, or we, should believe as Christians that get taken wrongly as if I am judging her family/friends. It is weird and I do my best to be respectful to the people but of course I believe they are mislead the same way they believe I am mislead. I dont judge them personally for it but sometimes it is a conversation where you kind of walk carefully. It has been brought up many times how muslims actually respect Jesus and view him in very high regard "because he is a great prophet." I cannot shake/accept that though as Jesus is not simply a prophet but is God in flesh. Do those that believe in the teachings of Islam also deny extrabiblical sources such as Roman writings/historians that documented very well that Jesus of Nazareth did claim to be God? It isn't just the bible that makes the claim Jesus asserted he was God in person. How can one believe he is a "great prophet" and try to use that as a way to make middle ground when it makes zero sense that a "prophet" would also claim to be God? Would that not make him one of the most damned heretics? I dont know the verses specifically but I remember there being verses that those blessed with visions/prophecy are commiting vile sins by misusing them or mispeaking them. Wouldn't that mean that muslims would have to believe that if Jesus was only a prophet then he was a disgraceful one? Just doesn't make sense.
Pray everyday without seasing for her conversion. Also, think about if islam is what you want for your future kids to learn because the in laws WILL teach them that garbage! Pray and ask God for clarity!!!!!!!
Others point Jesus = God. He never denies. ➕ He proves He is God. Example. Jesus told an injured man that his sins were forgiven. That outraged 😡 people. Then, Jesus said that because He has authority of God, Jesus cured the injured man. Thus, Jesus proved He was God. Jews ✡ who read 📖 that chapter will agree 👍. Yet, the same Jews will not believe Jesus. 😖
@"you are repeating this question for the second time in the same comments section. What’s your point?" So far no one (yourself included) has been able to answer my question. My point is if no one has an answer why would they believe that jesus is divine? Doesn't that make the entire chrisian doctrine false?
@@PROVEIT2 Check histories of the saints. The saint who promoted Divine Mercy. Check the miracles at Catholic shrines such as Vailankanni, India 🇮🇳, La Vang, Vietnam 🇻🇳. St. Francis challenged imams on fire walking 🚶♂️. Only this Catholic saint did it. Jesus permits miracles through the saints ... for a limited time and limited intensity.
God Blesses Sam, no one reveals this to him but the Holy Spirit who is is the Spirit of Truth
May Jesus bless u abundantly brother
He is going to hell for what he said toe his ego destroyed him
@@graemebell8929are you God?
@ Once again you people allow your ego's to take over.All my life it has been the same.ALL YOU are PERFECT and CHOSEN in the eyes of God and I am a bucket of shit.The BIBLE says be nice to strangers as some are messengers of God.BUT you and the rest ALL KNOW that it couldnt be me.I am a piece of shit arent I?YOU and ALL the rest are so full of yourselves that you believe you know every experience every person has had.You have no idea of my experiences or interaction with the One True God.NONE?Shamoun condemned himself.He is going to hell.Come and ridicule me like he did and you can join him.
@@graemebell8929No one knows who is going to hell except the Father.
@iflase5823 And those who the Father tells .
❤ Great explanation
Thomas called Jesus his Lord and "God" in the gospel of John 20:28 and Jesus did not rebuke him. If Jesus was not God, then Thomas would have been rebuked.
Jesus called peter satan and peter did not rebuke jesus
@@AstariahJW Of course Peter didn't rebuke Jesus because Jesus is God. A creature cannot rebuke God because it is impossible.
@Ronnie-y5v9b im making a point just cause jesus didn't rebuke thomas means nothing
Its very unlikely that thomas meant jesus was almighty God
@@AstariahJW Huh! No Jew in their right mind would ever call anyone God because that would mean that they "were" God Almighty.
@Ronnie-y5v9b satan is called god
Moses was called god
Judges were called gods
The apostles knew jesus was the Messiah the son of the living God
So thats why i said i doubt thomas was calling jesus God almighty
Glory to GOD
Jesus does not have to say he is god we all know he is looking at what he did for everyone also faith to believe Jesus is god is all you need amen
profound teaching ♥️
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, but the glory of kings is to search out a matter. proverbs 25:2
This is BS against BS. The most BS wins!
Ok, you win!😂😂😂
A better question is how can anyone demonstrate that jesus was divine with out using the bible? it is impossible.
How can anyone demonstrate that Julius Caesar was a Roman emperor without reading the historical sources?
@"How can anyone demonstrate that Julius Caesar was a Roman emperor without reading the historical sources?" There are documents from other historical figures describing his military events. There are also personal letters from contemporary figures also detailing his actions. There are also statues and buildings created during his life constructed and built to and by him. Regardless, the problem with jesus is proving he was the son of god. Caesars wasn't a supernatural being.
hello? My friend why did you go silent? Was it something I said?
1.The quran is not the bible yet it says Jesus is divine by being able to create life by breathing life into clay birds and other miracles( even though quran has issues in authenticity)BUT hey you said other than the bible.
2.Buddhism says Jesus was holy enlightened and had previous lives.
3Hinduism says Jesus is Sadhu.
4Baha i faith says Jesus is a manifestation of God and his sacrifice purified the world.
5 Five other references outside the bible Josephuses antiquities,Telmud,Midrash,Mara Bar Serapion.
Now that it is established, let's go back to the True Bible and see who he actually is and see why he was crucified for saying he was God.
Clearly it was not impossible.
Allah never said he was the father so he can’t be God
So Alah is not God.
It was satan that took the authority that took the Athority that Adam had because Adam sinned and it took Jesus ( the son of man ) to take it from satan and give it back to man cause Jesua is a man and could only save us as a man, the last Adam, but a sinless man ( the perfect sacrfice ) and even satan didn't know who Jesus was being God in the flesh cause his glory was hidden however some of these muslims won't receive the truth so they can't.
I used to talk to people who wanted to understand this more better and all I could tell them from my limited thinkig in order to help them gain some kind of understanding.
All of all creation, every star and planet and everything on them exists within the infinate living mind of God, His imagination is our reality except however we can cause he allows us to effect it, now, imagine your own planet any way you want it to be and then imagine people on your planet any way you want them to be now, imagine walking around shaking hands and talking with your people on your planet that you imagined and now ask yourself, are you any less god over the world you created in your mind just because you're walking on it ?
That's the best I could do from such a limited way of thinking.
2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
1 John 4:3 - And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Spirit of the antichrist is the trinity dogma or anyone that teaches God almighty came down as a man
@@AstariahJW 1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
A better question is how can anyone demonstrate that jesus was divine with out using the bible? it is impossible.
@@PROVEIT2 Everyone needs poof ! What proof is there that we breath air ? Prove it without a science lab or book !
@@PROVEIT2The shroud of Turin proves it.
Technology 2000 years ago could not emit light like Jesus did under the shroud.
Jesus is reliable guys, put your faith on him don’t play Russian roulette with your souls!
Jesus also told Satan it is written do not Temp the lord your God
The Koran says Jesus Christ is the Messiah Surah 3:45
But Jesus himself didnt say so according to the quran
@@oliviablick7551because mohammed was an antichrist, that's why!
But hold on, isn't raising the dead one of so many others supernatural miracles that is one attribute of God enough to confirm his diety?
A better question is how can anyone demonstrate that jesus was divine with out using the bible? it is impossible.
Sam, define messiah to Muslims. The Quran states that Christ is in fact the messiah, “A very powerful deity”. Perhaps defining that word would help.
I personally struggle a bit with this topic and just dont bring it up much. My fiance is christian and so am I; however she comes from a Muslim family and her country of origin is also an islamic controlled state. She is very sympathetic to it even though she doesnt believe the same.
We have had what I thought were simply me pointing things out that I, or we, should believe as Christians that get taken wrongly as if I am judging her family/friends.
It is weird and I do my best to be respectful to the people but of course I believe they are mislead the same way they believe I am mislead. I dont judge them personally for it but sometimes it is a conversation where you kind of walk carefully.
It has been brought up many times how muslims actually respect Jesus and view him in very high regard "because he is a great prophet." I cannot shake/accept that though as Jesus is not simply a prophet but is God in flesh.
Do those that believe in the teachings of Islam also deny extrabiblical sources such as Roman writings/historians that documented very well that Jesus of Nazareth did claim to be God? It isn't just the bible that makes the claim Jesus asserted he was God in person.
How can one believe he is a "great prophet" and try to use that as a way to make middle ground when it makes zero sense that a "prophet" would also claim to be God? Would that not make him one of the most damned heretics? I dont know the verses specifically but I remember there being verses that those blessed with visions/prophecy are commiting vile sins by misusing them or mispeaking them. Wouldn't that mean that muslims would have to believe that if Jesus was only a prophet then he was a disgraceful one?
Just doesn't make sense.
Pray everyday without seasing for her conversion.
Also, think about if islam is what you want for your future kids to learn because the in laws WILL teach them that garbage!
Pray and ask God for clarity!!!!!!!
Luke 20:22 is irrelevant to the topic , maybe Sam meant Luke 22:20🙏😢
Others point Jesus = God. He never denies. ➕ He proves He is God.
Example. Jesus told an injured man that his sins were forgiven. That outraged 😡 people. Then, Jesus said that because He has authority of God, Jesus cured the injured man. Thus, Jesus proved He was God. Jews ✡ who read 📖 that chapter will agree 👍. Yet, the same Jews will not believe Jesus. 😖
A better question is how can anyone demonstrate that jesus was divine with out using the bible? it is impossible.
@@PROVEIT2you are repeating this question for the second time in the same comments section.
What’s your point?
@"you are repeating this question for the second time in the same comments section. What’s your point?" So far no one (yourself included) has been able to answer my question. My point is if no one has an answer why would they believe that jesus is divine? Doesn't that make the entire chrisian doctrine false?
@@PROVEIT2posted again award 🥇
@@PROVEIT2 Check histories of the saints. The saint who promoted Divine Mercy. Check the miracles at Catholic shrines such as Vailankanni, India 🇮🇳, La Vang, Vietnam 🇻🇳.
St. Francis challenged imams on fire walking 🚶♂️. Only this Catholic saint did it.
Jesus permits miracles through the saints ... for a limited time and limited intensity.
Jesus does not have to say his God
Omg
You guys seem to all have your own vision about what is happening for many years lol😂😂😂😂😂😂
See here i see you all crazy AF😂😂😂😂😂
Sam will never walk in the kingdom of God
Muhammad is still in the grave. waiting for judgement