Interesting, another unit i have had the pleasure of having limited connection to but knew naff all about them... I was pleased for them though when back in the 80s they managed to convince the MOD to increase their Parachute capability. Nice video, easy to listen to👍👍
i always find it interesting how the publicity of the tier one units is basically reversed between the uk and the us, with the seals being the movie and book deal warriors n the deltas being more quiet whereas in the uk the sas cowboys always seem to be louder than the shakies haha
The briefing course is for non infantry units due to the fitness, weapons and skills not taught to support arms that’s why RMR go so that people not ready attend selection
I thought X Squadron was stood up as a mix of SBS and SAS to keep up with the operation tempo during GWOT around 2004. Just a civvy lurker so gods knows what's happened in the last 20 years.
@@JB-td9fz cross posting has been going on for decades.. On a few occasions it actualy leads to the soldier switching service... A few very senior sas officers including a dsf have also commanded an sbs sqn...and at least 2 sbs officers have commanded 23 sas! There are blades at poole and shakeys at hereford
I don’t understand the UKSF(R). Why would you go trough all that to be in a reserve capacity? Also given the fact that SF reserve is a full time commitment (so I’ve been told) what’s to gain from having 2 reserve regiments (and what’s size SBS(R) is)? It doesn’t make sense to have your top 1% serve in reserve.
"It doesn’t make sense to have your top 1% serve in reserve." - I'm not sure what you meant there, but I want to be clear. 21 SAS, 23 SAS and SBS(R) are not the top 1%. In regard to the criteria you likely mean for being at the top, 22 SAS and the SBS are without question in that position. This is because full UKSF selection is ONLY done by 22 and the SBS, and it's far more arduous than reserve selection. Add to that the much wider scope of training and roles assigned to the regulars and it's clear; the regulars are the top, not the reserves. And in case you think so; no, the SRR doesn't do full UKSF selection either.
@@Dr.Ian-Plect I don’t follow. If the men of 21/23/SBS(R) don’t have the same standards as there regular counterparts, then why are they badged and can call themselves SAS/SBS? Also, 21/23 had/has the strategic reconnaissance role, wouldn’t it be mighty important to test them in E&E TQ?
As for 21 and 23 SAS the selection is now combined with the full time element. You'll also find there's people involved with law enforcement particularly in counter terrorism roles applying for special forces reserve. So there's an advantage with having all those transferable skills.
@@G4x5da I'm only stating what is, not what you might wish it to be. As for calling themselves 'SAS' or 'SBS', you must remember what the official names are, not truncated, street terms; - 21 SAS is fully officially called 21 Special Air Service Regiment (Artists) (Reserve), commonly shortened to 21 SAS(R) - 23 SAS is fully officially called 23 Special Air Service Regiment (Reserve) commonly shortened to 23 SAS(R) They do hills phase, but until recently even that was broken up into a few days here and there to fit around their civilian lives and wasn't the full 4 weeks that the regs do. They now do hills phase in one block, as the regulars do, but it's 3 weeks, not 4 of the regs. They don't do jungle selection at all, commonly considered the most difficult phase. As for E&E TQ, I didn't actually state they didn't do that phase, I just stated they 'don't do UKSF selection in full'. However, even the official MOD British Army, UKSF(R) selection timeline doesn't mention that phase. And I agree about them wearing the same key uniform elements as their regular counterparts; they should do identical selection to earn that right. But it is what it is.
@@Kylegreigwalker "As for 21 and 23 SAS the selection is now combined with the full time element" - That could be interpreted as the reserves doing full UKSF selection, which they don't. For clarity, all that means is that the elements of selection that the reserves do are integrated and run alongside the selection phases attended by the regs. For example, the reserves do 3 weeks of hills phase, the regs do 4. The reserves will attend the same 3 out of 4 weeks of hills phase alongside the regs.
@@HardRoutine_TOTWInteresting also are all the SBS reserves based in Poole? As the SAS reserve have detachments all over and do all their training over the weekends. Anyways thanks for the insight.
That's indeed very odd. Leeds would fall under 23 SAS and I know several former badged 23 with years of regular infantry background. I'd say call them back and check.
Great video. Always top shelf quality on this page
Thanks mate, appreciate it!
Interesting, another unit i have had the pleasure of having limited connection to but knew naff all about them... I was pleased for them though when back in the 80s they managed to convince the MOD to increase their Parachute capability. Nice video, easy to listen to👍👍
Thanks for the comment mate 👍
Good video thanks. I always wondered why the UK SAS would have an amphibious troop when you have the SBS. Seems like a double up
Completely different
Love it, that canoe fitness assessment sounds horrid! Thanks
Yes agreed, Duncan Falconer describes it in his book.
i always find it interesting how the publicity of the tier one units is basically reversed between the uk and the us, with the seals being the movie and book deal warriors n the deltas being more quiet whereas in the uk the sas cowboys always seem to be louder than the shakies haha
Very true!
The briefing course is for non infantry units due to the fitness, weapons and skills not taught to support arms that’s why RMR go so that people not ready attend selection
It is my understanding that attending and passing the SF Briefing assessment course is a prerequisite for all candidates from all arms.
Not true. It's for everyone.
I thought X Squadron was stood up as a mix of SBS and SAS to keep up with the operation tempo during GWOT around 2004. Just a civvy lurker so gods knows what's happened in the last 20 years.
Interesting. Thx
Nope. X is SBS only. They never ever woukd mix them lll
@@JB-td9fz they constantly mix them... Sas members took part in the mv nisha op... As sbs lads did on op barras....
@@CraigArnott they might join together for specific operations but to say blades are actually in a SBS squadron is nonsense.
@@JB-td9fz cross posting has been going on for decades.. On a few occasions it actualy leads to the soldier switching service... A few very senior sas officers including a dsf have also commanded an sbs sqn...and at least 2 sbs officers have commanded 23 sas! There are blades at poole and shakeys at hereford
I don’t understand the UKSF(R). Why would you go trough all that to be in a reserve capacity? Also given the fact that SF reserve is a full time commitment (so I’ve been told) what’s to gain from having 2 reserve regiments (and what’s size SBS(R) is)? It doesn’t make sense to have your top 1% serve in reserve.
"It doesn’t make sense to have your top 1% serve in reserve."
- I'm not sure what you meant there, but I want to be clear. 21 SAS, 23 SAS and SBS(R) are not the top 1%. In regard to the criteria you likely mean for being at the top, 22 SAS and the SBS are without question in that position.
This is because full UKSF selection is ONLY done by 22 and the SBS, and it's far more arduous than reserve selection. Add to that the much wider scope of training and roles assigned to the regulars and it's clear; the regulars are the top, not the reserves.
And in case you think so; no, the SRR doesn't do full UKSF selection either.
@@Dr.Ian-Plect I don’t follow. If the men of 21/23/SBS(R) don’t have the same standards as there regular counterparts, then why are they badged and can call themselves SAS/SBS? Also, 21/23 had/has the strategic reconnaissance role, wouldn’t it be mighty important to test them in E&E TQ?
As for 21 and 23 SAS the selection is now combined with the full time element. You'll also find there's people involved with law enforcement particularly in counter terrorism roles applying for special forces reserve. So there's an advantage with having all those transferable skills.
@@G4x5da I'm only stating what is, not what you might wish it to be. As for calling themselves 'SAS' or 'SBS', you must remember what the official names are, not truncated, street terms;
- 21 SAS is fully officially called 21 Special Air Service Regiment (Artists) (Reserve), commonly shortened to 21 SAS(R)
- 23 SAS is fully officially called 23 Special Air Service Regiment (Reserve) commonly shortened to 23 SAS(R)
They do hills phase, but until recently even that was broken up into a few days here and there to fit around their civilian lives and wasn't the full 4 weeks that the regs do. They now do hills phase in one block, as the regulars do, but it's 3 weeks, not 4 of the regs. They don't do jungle selection at all, commonly considered the most difficult phase. As for E&E TQ, I didn't actually state they didn't do that phase, I just stated they 'don't do UKSF selection in full'. However, even the official MOD British Army, UKSF(R) selection timeline doesn't mention that phase.
And I agree about them wearing the same key uniform elements as their regular counterparts; they should do identical selection to earn that right. But it is what it is.
@@Kylegreigwalker "As for 21 and 23 SAS the selection is now combined with the full time element"
- That could be interpreted as the reserves doing full UKSF selection, which they don't. For clarity, all that means is that the elements of selection that the reserves do are integrated and run alongside the selection phases attended by the regs. For example, the reserves do 3 weeks of hills phase, the regs do 4. The reserves will attend the same 3 out of 4 weeks of hills phase alongside the regs.
Is there an age limit to SBS reserves? So not jungle phase either with the reserves?
I think its 42. That's right no jungle.
@@HardRoutine_TOTWInteresting also are all the SBS reserves based in Poole? As the SAS reserve have detachments all over and do all their training over the weekends. Anyways thanks for the insight.
It's a good question I don't know the answer. It was hard to get much intel.
@@Mattbriggs85all in Poole
I heard sbs r do full course now?
Interesting
I tried to join SAS Reserve in leeds, apparently because id already served in the infantry i wasnt allowed ... oh well
That's indeed very odd. Leeds would fall under 23 SAS and I know several former badged 23 with years of regular infantry background. I'd say call them back and check.
@@HardRoutine_TOTW this was a few years ago mate things probably changed ... i probably should of mentioned that
That's bs
@@alextop1850 is it? Prove me wrong
Does type B reserve service count towards those 2 years?
I don't know the answer to that hopefully someone else might be able to answer.
You are going to enjoy Catterick 🤢
My first ever visit!
200lb over 15 mile ..hell fucking fire ..
Insane isn't it. Duncan Falconer describes it in his book First Into Action.