Scared of Airbrushing WARHAMMER? Try Anyway
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Airbrushing Warhammer, for an inexperienced hobbyist it might be quite intimidating. I'm definitely in that camp. I not going to get any better at it not practicing though so in this video I'm finally putting in the practice to improve my airbrushing skills on space marines. Will it be a total mess? Probably.
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Piggybacking off this to give you my top tip for preventing 90% of (my) stoppages: an old toothbrush head mounted within easy reach when airbrushing. I've glued mine to the holder I use for my brush. I have the bristles pointing straight up, and then I dribble a little water or alcohol on. Whenever I feel a clog/dried tip starting, i just rub the airbrush through the toothbrush. Sometimes I do it preventatively as well, sort of like rinsing a regular brush. Having the toothbrush head glued in place makes it incredibly easy to do, and I don't even have to empty out the airbrush cup first.
It obviously won't do anything for issues inside the airbrush, but it has solved almost all my issues during regular use. I hope my explanation makes sense, it felt awkward without showing pictures.
A normal video for a normal level painter. Good stuff, thanks for keeping the mistakes in. More of this painters journey stuff please. Will help ease everyone’s journey down that hobby trumpet and hopefully prevent anyone from getting stuck in it never to return. I to the warp of the hobby trumpet. Do you want to live forever?
It's good to know you're not the only one with such problems. I definitely can relate, been there done that and more (like setting too high PSI to basically tear off previous layers of paint).
100% I used to love when old white dwarfs showed armies that weren't eavy metal and you could see normal armies
Its very refreshing watching a video of someone showing their trial and error with airbrushing. I have had an airbrush that my wife got me for Christmas for over a year and have never used it because I am (like you) intimidated by the tool. Thanks for giving me some confidence to just go for it and see what happens no matter the results!
2:35 Sadly this can be a problem with a lot of things in life. Not just airbrushes. I think the terminator came out really nice. Well done!
It does just get in the way right??
Love this. Not enough creators show the stress you go through learning all of this stuff. End result was cracking too. Lovely job.
Also, what are you using at 15:12...? Leaves a really nice after effect!
Dust effects by AK
Thanks for sharing your experiences with airbrushing. I've recently got into mini painting and also jumped on with an airbrush and this is more in line with my own experiences than a lot of the other tutorials online. Sharing your frustrations is an affirmation that mistakes happen but to keep pressing on and trying new things.
Airbrushing is significantly more difficult than a lot of hobby youtubers seem to suggest so thanks for making this. The end result was great and I'd love to see future attempts.
Well done Pat. It's very brave to film yourself doing the most important bit of the hobby that no one talks about - by which I mean failing better. It's something that not even the "big boys" have the stones to do and it's really refreshing.
Plus the end result was absolutely banging. I hope you were pleased enough to keep on going because a squad just like that would look fantastic.
Still a noob myself, I've found that if you aren't consistent with it, you tend to forget a lot of the little things you've learned along the way. Things like thinning the paint, air pressure, etc. I end up having to relearn between sessions. But then I'm old and forget easily. Great vid on the topic!
FWIW for stoppages, I saw a great tip on Airbrush Asylum, which is (for a dual action airbrush) to keep the airbrush air on at all times rather than doing short bursts. Short bursts makes it more likely to clog because when you cut off the air suddenly whatever paint is going through the mechanism dries half way out, so you're looking to reduce the number of times you cut off the airflow in a painting session
Well short bursts causing stoppages is dependent on the pressure your using and how thin the paint is.
Facts.
There are different ways to avoid this, Vince says to avoid blowing air through the airbrush unless there is also coming paint out because the airflow will dry any paint left on the needle. It has served me well, and I don´t have a lot of clogs, and a quetip on hand with airbrush cleaner on it to wipe the needle makes them even less frustrating.
Leaving the air on all the time made me enjoy air brushing
The main thing is to keep it on until after the paint has stopped. So if you continue painting it goes on full blast. If you stop just make sure that the paint is out before stopping the airflow. It takes some getting used to.
Thank you for this video. An honest view of the first airbrushing attempts helps a lot!
Now I can say 'I' am not scared of airbrushing - I am part of a community, and 'we' are all scared together :)
As far as stoppages, I would say thinning is even more important for the airbrush than in hand painting. Especially with how thin and quick drying the airbrushed layers are, I've found I can build up smooth layers without having to stop to unclog the nozzle and still batch paint faster than I would going by hand. Keep at it, you'll get there!
Good on you for sticking with it! It really is worth the time investment to learn. The model turned out excellent!
I'm quite experienced with the airbrush, and I can point out exactly where some of your problems were:
1) You need to thin almost everything you put through your airbrush, including inks, even though they feel thinner. Especially white. White pigment has a tendency to gum up. Thin your airbrush paints in a little container outside of the bowl so you can test the consistency before putting them through the airbrush. I go for milk consistency most of the time. There are these wonderful little metal, reusable mixing saucers that are perfect for this I got on Amazon. Also, thinner whites also go on smoother. If you mix in a little gloss medium and airbrush flow improver (which is basically retarder, not the same as airbrush thinner), then your white will be less chalky and more durable.
2) Keeping the airflow going while being gentle on the trigger is the way to go. I still keep the PSI around 30-40. You can do that without causing spider webbing as long as you build up the layers slowly and are gentle on the trigger.
3) Paints take longer to fully cure than you think, especially white ink, which should be dried over night. Applying a transfer straight away will wreck them. The issue is more visible with an airbrush because the layers are thinner. When using white ink and over airbrush layers, before I do any techniques that will stress the surface of the model, like decals or drybrushing, I wait an hour, gloss varnish (which you should also thin), then wait overnight and work on other stuff in the meantime.
In short, the adage "thin your paints" applies double with the airbrush.
As someone who bought himself a handheld air brush over Christmas and still hasn't worked up the courage to use it, I really appreciate an honest trial-and-error look at airbrushing. You've motivated me to bite the bullet and give it a go!
Go for it. You’re not going to break it and any mistakes can be fixed with a little bath in rubbing alcohol.
This video has restored my hope in my ability to learn. I have all these some frustrations so it is nice to know I'm not alone.
You can do it!
There's no true failure in mini painting. You either nail it 100% (which is never the case even if you're Richard Gray) or you learn and grow. Every mini painted is progress which can sometimes feel infinitesimal but progress nonetheless!
Thank you for this video. There are so many videos talking about how easy airbrushing is and it is just nice to see someone go though the problems they went through as a newbie to airbrushing. I learnt a lot and cheers.
Dude. That came out really nice. Must be encouraging. You pushed through the hard bit. Just mix everything to the consistency of Liquitex ink and you're good.
Thank you, just bought my first airbrush and assumed I was doing everything wrong. Looks like I need to spend time experimenting.
Having just got an airbrush I'm so thankful you put out this video!
Really interesting video, nice to see a learning process and things going wrong rather than just flawless pros that I couldn't emulate anyway!
When mixing your paints, add the thinner first. It helps stop blockages because there isn’t thick paint at the front. It also helps mix the paint with the thinner better.
Thanks for the video and leaving all that went wrong in it, it's refreshing to see its not plain sailing explaining what went wrong and how you went about fixing it. I think it's time to try out my airbrush again. Love the way the armour turned out in the end
Chin up Pat, it's a whole new set of skills to learn! And you're basically raw-dogging the learning part with trial and error and no-one to teach you in person. Your end result looks fantastic, even if you do think you put heaps too much time into it.
Just compare that final version of the Imperial Fist to the iron Warriors you did a year or so ago, and you will see how different the quality of the finished product is. You can be truly proud of the amount of growth you (and your beard) have gone through in the last year!
This mirrored my experience pretty closely. I guess I take it for granted now that I don't get clogs and stoppages. Mostly just due to familiarity.
Like all tools, proficiency grows with use. These steps forward on your airbrush journey will be priceless the next time you pick it up
The model looks great Pat - its all just a case of practice! As you said huge improvements from the first attempt and you've learned a ton!
Awesome video. Appreciated meeting you and Geoff in Vegas. Fun trading old cross the pond Army stories with him.
This is such a refreshing video to see and so valuable for people not to feel like airbrushing is instant cheating. Your approach to testing up different combos and not giving up is great. I don't see failures. I see a progression of practice and trial and error.
I do think that having a 0.2 mm needle may have been making it more difficult for you as that might struggle with larger pigment particles.
It was really refreshing to see someone learning a new process and having struggles while you ironed out how to get it working, or figuring out what works for you. That much more resembles my modelling and painting journey then so many of the other tutorials I see online.
And the mini turned out great so your struggles definitely paid off. Kudos!
Got an airbrush for Christmas 2 years ago. Have been intimidated to try it because of all the potential problems. This give me the confidence to just GO FOR IT, MAN!
Your finished result looks amazing, what a learning experience for us all. Thank you.
at about the 12 minute mark you look like you're contemplating drinking the paint stripper - it looks like an incredibly frustrating process you've been through but you've had a fantastically positive attitude to all the problems cropping up and the finished mini looks great. nice one.
Lovely vibrant colours. If youre a noob it really isnt obvious. Im only a few months into using my airbrush and certainly agree, practice maked perfect! Well done and thanks!
This was a great video by the way. Few show the mistakes and the struggles. It’s a process. Everyone has these issues. Great job
I think I’ve been painting long enough that I’d like to try airbrushing. Just seems like so much work to set up and use and clean and put away.
That finished result looks AWESOME
Some of these brushes still need cleaning 😂
This is the most relatable video I've seen on this! One day I'll get it right, but glad to know it's not just me!
This has been great, some of the same issues I've found... It's nice to know that airbrushing isn't the silver bullet without putting the effort in. Keep up the good work!
I think you’ve made an awesome airbrushing video that shows an honest journey on where we all begin. Too many airbrushing tutorials are usually just ”do this and get good”. You have to invest a lot of time to learn anything new and it will be messy, but I find so many tutorials gloss over the very early challenges when starting out airbrushing. This vid I found very reassuring and has inspired me to pick up my airbrush again. Like you say, just got to keep trying! Cheers dude 💪
Hi Pat, great video! I would imagine there’s a lot of folks who are intimidated by airbrushes: very good of you to share your experiences. And, of course, the video quality is exceptional 👍
The algorithm recommended this video to me. The fact that you showed where you stumbled and had issues made me subscribe.
It shows you are a normal human, unlike the "pro painters" who only show their best work in videos.
That's some nice weathering, mini looks great !
Thanks for sharing your real experience. Give far more of an idea of what to expect
Oh Pat that was truly heartbreaking to watch in places!
I am too scared to even buy an airbrush, but your end result was outstanding!
You got it!
Respect that you put out a video that's mostly about failing. Very relatable. I haven't tried airbrushing but I've definitely been there with other aspects of the hobby
Hi ! Thanks for this video ! I'm not really an expert in airbrushing, but one advise I received and I can share is to always put thinner first in your cup before adding the paint. This will help avoiding your airbrush to be clogged.
Echoing what others are saying here - I have an airbrush that I use infrequently, and find frustrating when I do use it (but the speed does help make the overall faff worthwhile). Glad to see it's common with other 'real' hobbyists out there when often the narrative on YT or other places is usually around flawless execution with £££ airbrushes. Nice work Pat.
Thank you for letting us see your struggles. It's very heartening for us new painters. :)
This video makes me want to airbrush, no joke. Props for trying something scary
Great video! Airbrushing is definitely a nuanced skill to learn and takes some persistence.
Vince Venturella did a beginner airbrush video covering the basics which completely fixed airbrushing for me. I have a fraction of the clogging issues now using his methods for cleaning, thinning and trigger control. (And buy one of those tattoo water bottles with the bendy nozzle, it works wonders.)
Im so glad I finally made the plunge. Holy cow if any of you are on the fence, please do it!!!
Good video, lots of learning experiences.
I have an orange marine army, so I've gone through everything you have. I like flat paint jobs, so the airbrush helped me through doing an orange army, which is nigh on impossible with a brush.
This very much reminded me of when i started airbrushing. I bought watercolor ink which reactivated on me when i applied contrast over top. Not a fun day. But i try to approach painting like i do my job and just fail upwards.
thank you for this video. we will in fact, bust out the airbrush this weekend and paint. we've been putting it off because it scares us and because brush painting is what we already knew, but you're right, there's no reason to buy a thing and not use it
That mini turned out excellent in the end. I find inks reactivate really easily and have stopped using them on gaming minis. Also, I mix my paint outside of the brush.
Best thing about painting a mini with an airbrush and then hating the result, it's super easy to strip or re-undercoat the mini and not loose detail because paint is soo thin 😊
I love the beauty shots. Very stylish. Also Harder & Steenbeck Infinity has a trigger tensioner
I was afraid for a very long time. I kept buying things I thought I must have then decided I was just putting it off. I love it now. I'm not the best at it, but I tend to use it more and more as time goes on. Started as just priming, then base coating, etc. There really is a lot of things that it is good for.
I use tamiya or lacquer based paints through my airbrush, never had a blockage, when I use water based even when thinned correctly I can guarantee that at some point I will have to disassemble and clean the brush.
Having a tooth brush and iso alcohol is also handy to clean the tip .
This pretty much sums up my initial airbrush work. It takes some time and practice to get used to.
What annoys me the most are inks. They need a good varnish to properly set otherwise it's easy to reactivate them.
Normal acrylic paints, even thinned, are fine, I started doing zenithal with those instead of using inks for that.
Inks are still better at using translucency to filter over zenithal/preshade.
It's good to show when things go bad with painting. Even if you didn't quite know why. The model at the end was great.
That varnish surely needed to dry. I've never seen sol/set tear through paint with such vigor. I have seen it eat away at the top layer of paint before though, after fiddling with it too much without varnish.
The GW mini of the month are fine models to practice new products and techniques on. Especially if you aren't sure how 1 product will interact with another, and for some reason aren't going to varnish in between.
Great video. I really need to try Streaking Grime. I need to watch more of your videos, but I do listen to you guys every day on Spotify when driving to work. Keep it up!
Currently learning to use an airbrush myself - although not an expensive one like you have. Was intimidated myself and still am but keep plugging away at it. Thanks for the video nice to see a painting video aimed at normal / armature level painters. That imperial fist amour though was awesome really liked the fade between the yellow and orange would never have thought to have used pink - colour theory / mixing not one of my strong suits
Total recognition! , i kind of came over the scary hurdle after painting alot of necromunda terrain and got the feel of the airbrush and tested around alot, but since im a teflon brain and can´t remember diddely squat i took the effort to write down succesfull paint recipes in a noteblock so maybe information will stick someday
I use a no name airbrush it's my first airbrush and I've only had to replace nozzle once , I think the key to learning how to use an airbrush is cleaning, different paints react differently so how well we prepare them for airbrushing can change, playing with the cheaper paints can be hit and miss , I find the more costly paints more predictable. Good video Patrick I think it's good to highlight some of the issues we all face at one point or another
Inks sometimes need a bit of thinning as well especially when going through a .2mm needle. I tend to only use them when I really feel that I want to because I've ALSO found that they're more of a pain to clean out of the airbrush. I just use regular white paint for zenithals mostly. Works pretty much the same.
Just a quick just a quick note on the trigger adjustment mechanism. H&S don’t provide this feature but most Chinese brushes including the Gaahleri range do, as do Japanese types such as Iwata and Creos. Your Gaahleri brush exposes that feature where most brushes require the removal of the tail cone to adjust the tension. This is not a big deal as it is the sort of thing you do when you first use a new brush then forget about it. I was surprised to find that with the new Evolution 2024 (my first H&S) I had to shorten or replace the inner spring to soften the trigger action to my taste.
I pre-mix/thin my paints in cheap little plastic pots, it really helps stop blockages, especially with white as any chalky parts don't go straight down into the needle. Stopped the issue almost entirely for me.
Two really good good quotes that apply here:
“Sucking at something is the first step towards being kinda good at something.”
and
“The greatest teacher, failure is.”
Look how much progress you made in 48 hours! Keep banging away at it. I’m just starting my airbrush journey myself and I’m working hard to embrace failures and setbacks as integral parts of the process. You got this, man.
Practice makes perfect mate, keep at it. 👍🏻
If you didn’t experience problems, make mistakes, try new approaches, you’d never improve. So don’t worry, just practice.
BTW, that Terminator looked great. Also, well done on correcting the brush mistakes as well as you did!
Sad defeated Patrick on Saturday night was a bummer. In that kind of situation don't subject yourself to a microwave meal. That's a chipper night. Or some sort of deep fried salty takeout. Glad Sunday was better. I too have an airbrush gathering dust in a box. Too complicated to bother figuring it out. Brushes work fine for me. 😊
Great video. Been working with my airbrush for two years and she can be a cruel mistress. Multiple failures and stripped miniatures has kept our love/hate relationship alive. Keep making more relatable content like this for us average hobby masses.
I have been working on my airbrushing over the past year and i have learnt the importance of not rushing things, letting layers dry properly before going further (have stuffed many models up by just not waiting).
As frustrating as I can find it when I just straight up make a mistake, I have gotten better at reminding myself, if the layers are thin enough, I can just paint over and if it is too bad, a quick bath in some stripper can start over again.
Where can I find more info on the brush sleeve method at 14:35
The problem you faced in 10:40 that the paint melt while you using decal I also met it too, i think that because i add too much Flow Improver in my airbrush. Hope it can help anybody who have same problems.
Pat saying he's going to cry into a microwave meal for one really resonated 😭 Come for scran next time you're in Glasgow!
Quite literally the video I needed most! My airbrush has just been sitting on my work desk for months cause I've been scared to use it! lol
Go for it!
Those terminators look great! Fantastic job Pat on the results.
My main fear with airbrushing is that everyone says you will wreck your first one. :D Going to start out with something cheap.
I hear this advice frequently, I went expensive for my first, got scared and then went cheaper.
Feel your pain brother
But the end result was very good! Inspired
I thought the order was: Few drops of thinner > paint > flow improver > stir or backblow to mix > start painting. I saw an airbrush enthusiast say this is to prevent paint from sticking to the inside of the airbrush since those areas will be coated with thinner before any paint touches them.
That sounds like it makes sense, I'll give it a go!
Using Airbrush flow improver instead of thinners really is the key. Like thinners just dry the paint faster and that messes up the airbrushing process.
Also to anyone who's still using and struggling with one of those compressors that came with a 40 euro airbrush set: throw it away and get a proper, cheap floor compressor for like 50 euros online. You really need to be able to manually set the PSI, and you want something that won't turn itself off every 15 minutes and overheat.
Great stuff! I love these videos. You guys should reach out to Harder and Steenbeck - They're also making some airbrushing videos and have been collaborating with the miniature community.
Bro, compare this to the iron warriors from the early TPP videos and just look how good you got 🤘 loved watching you paint bravely!
It can seem like a chore to airbrush but I always use mine to prime mostly, I need to get a different airbrush as I have bad hands, I'm probably going for dual action trigger airbrush
Great b-roll my man. Really well shot.
That is a small needle size to start with for base coating and what not.
put in thinner before the paint
[TEST] Anything you haven't done before (on a Spoon, Sprue: anything _But_ your built models)
use airbrush thinner instead and it has to have the consistency of milk, plus i have always used iwata cos that's what everyone uses at ILM apparently, i also turned down the pressure on the iwata smart jet which is a great pump. lest spotting and no issues with spidering
The way you feel about airbrushing, is how I feel about varnishing.😪
Excellent video Pat 👍 think you are right! I've just bought my first airbrush and I'm scared of it 🤣 but you've just got to put the hours in and practice with it! I think the terminator turned out pretty well!
Keep going!!!!! We need a follow up video!!!!
Patience! Don't feel you have to whack on loads of pigment in one pass, and also - wait for your varnish to dry!
A good demonstration that a £150 airbrush doesn't instantly make you 10 times better than someone with a £15 airbrush! I'd say 0.2mm is way too small for doing large areas of work. They are more for close-up detail. Speaking about pressure, I guess it works for you, but 25psi is 5 or more psi than I use. I'm no expert either, but my cheap airbrush seems to give pretty decent results at 18-20psi. I'd say just keep going though, your 4 lads look very decent indeed. Perfectly usable.
(Also - Patience. It is worth repeating.)
You look very close to the mini with the brush, it may be the angle but H&S recommend a fist & 2 fingers distance depending on which setting on the ultra your using.
Good spot, I must do some more research and figure it out distance wise. I do have a tendency to edge closer to see results more quickly
Yea I was the same, got my ultra for xmas and watched through H&S videos i have noticed that thinning a little more than i used to stops tip dry and the distance makes a massive difference to the success I am having! Keep up the great work ont he videos and the texture pallette with your logo looks and works great on the desk!@@thepaintingphase
Good stuff
Do you put the Imperial Fist through the airbrush neat?
What's the best airbrush to buy? I have a sparmax compressor, would that work with other brands?
If your airbrush clogs at 25 psi then it’s likely you need to thin the paint even more. If that doesn’t work disassemble it and clean the entire needle. Something has dried within the case. I had this exact problem. I thought I had thinned it out but nope. I had followed the formula but nope. Thinned it more and built up my coats and the problem was solved. If the room is hot then the paint can dry quick so added retarder may also help. All very complicated initially but then you find your flow
Find your flow, see what you did there! Genuinely, thank you for the advice it's much appreciated 👍
No offence meant but I was not expecting the result you got, it looked great