Range Rover Classic - P38 EAS - Finally the test drive Ep6
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2024
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A driving review of the Range Rover Classic Vogue SE 300TDI
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The 300 TDI was a good engine, I had one in a ’96 manual Discovery; bought at 2 years old with 28K on the clock and sold 10 years later with 240K on it, and it was still pulling like a train! The only parts (other than service interval consumables) that engine had were a water pump, an alternator and that big plastic bolt on the top of the thermostat housing, which split/cracked and started spewing coolant out (luckily I noticed as soon as it happened and pulled over before I cooked the engine!) and was replaced with a brass type version (something I’d suggest to anyone with that engine, before it’s too late, but coat the threads with copper-slip or gasket sealant to stop them sticking to the alloy housing over time). I did hear some reports of the head gasket failing on the 300 TDI, but I never had a problem with that.
As for it being an engine for the RR Classic… well, back in the day it made sense if the car was a daily driver and the owner did a fair few miles (I could get around 28 to 30 mpg on longer runs with a little town driving thrown in). However, for a classic car that’s only driven on high days and holidays, then give me a 3.5 or 3.9 V8 petrol RR every time. I have a 3.9 EFI and, despite it still having working AC, I often drive it with the windows down and the stereo turned off, just to hear that V8 sound! It’s a thing of visceral beauty - I sometimes get a sort of wonderful Vulcan bomber type howl out of it at around 3500 RPM when changing from third to fourth when 'pressing on' along some country lanes- yes, it’s a rare (by 1992) manual version.
I’m not decrying diesel engined RR Classics for one moment, it’s great to see them being loved and preserved for future generations to enjoy, but there’s something so special about that V8 petrol engine, the likes of which I doubt we’ll ever see again.
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Five star. As usual.
Turned out nice again,Sir. Well worth the suspension work.Thank you for posting.
Thanks 👍
Another one saved! Well done! Next one Goast train!😊
maybe
Wow courteous driving, i do that and it surprises the assholes today.
Well done Richard. That suspension rebuild was a mammoth task!
just wait for the next one!
Nice test drive.Had to chuckle at your comment about the lorry that should have been on his side of the road.Here in Portugal they teach you how to drive in the middle of the road when going around corners,how to park in a roundabout to answer your mobile phone,how to park your vehicle on a pedestrian crossing and finally how to park on a blind bend and talk to your mate Manuel.😂
Needless to say the standard of driving is pretty grim and the police aren't much better as they have never discovered were the indicators are in their cars.
Anyway onwards and upwards to the next project.well done on this one.👍
Good stuff Richard - well done getting it back on the road.
I have driven an identical 1994 RRC 300TDI Auto Softdash since 2000 and it has done 275000 miles. It is the perfect everyday car. 34mpg no problem. Traffic clogged roads, country lanes and motorways - it does them all with ease and safety and just as fast as eveyone else.
Very comfortable, quiet and relaxed, a real joy to drive. Being a classic car, everyone treats you with respect (most don't know what the hell you are) and don't bother you at all. Bystanders love it for many reasons.
Re the EAS, I had it on for 7 years, too many irritating, time wasting issues, swapped for coils. (I have a 1975 2 door for 40 years) Absolutely no difference in ride/ handling between EAS and coils. An air bag stiffened with air to, say 150lbs/inch performs and feels exactly the same as a coil spring of the same rate. "Riding on air" is just an elusion. I admit the 50mm raising and lowering is gone but I've never missed it as it is a totally useless sales gimmick. Only plus of EAS is trailer/load levelling but original 1970's Boge easily takes care of that.
I look after it entirely at home, never go to garages. Hardly touched the 275000 mile engine (even the tappets) - oil changes 5000miles, cambelts every 70,000 m (unworn), P gasket, replaced turbo (oil seal went hard @ 250,000m).
Re the ABS - the hydraulic servo system is superb and normal braking is so good it needs really bad surfaces for the ABS to kick in.
The "modern" fashion and overly complex, oversize and overweight designs from JLR and the rest completely fail to impress me but that's probably because I've been driving for 56 years!Lovely lovely motor.
Your EAS must have been very faulty or badly maintained. I have Classics of the same age with both suspension types and the difference is night and day.
Everytime I'm forced to watch this program a sense of total despair comes over me the effort and frustration that exists in this workshop which in itself looks like the remains of Armageddon always ends up with me being sectioned again.
Poor Poor @bertiewooster3326, nursey will be along with her stern hand and those meds very soon
The 300tdi ZF is valved differently to the V8 I was informed a few years ago. Apparently petrols with the ZF that have been converted to TDI aren’t very nice to drive if the gearbox wasn’t touched during the conversion.
It would make sense to me, this was news that I didn't know. I suspect that when the 200tdi came out the demand for Auto was sufficient that it was fulfilled when the 300tdi his production.
The ZF is great and I love Tdi engines, just not together! The Tdi tends to drive better with an R380, mine returned 35mpg but was over200k when I took it off the road. I’m hoping it’ll be a bit better after its rebuild. The V8s are great with the ZF.
I can understand what you mean. 200tdi wasn't ever offered with anything other than 5 speed manual. by the time 300 tdi appeared I think that the zf had been adapted to deal with it. It really was quite pleasant to drive
@@churchhouseclassics I tried a couple of 300 Vogue SEs back around 2003ish and was disappointed, but they were already a bit tired, so perhaps neither was running quite right. With a bit of tuning, porting and so on, I think a Tdi would pull a ZF well enough.
Good work getting the EAS running.
Re cruise control, could you raid a drive by wire 300TDI Auto Discovery for the bits and persuade it to work on the Range Rover?
we got there in the end with a specialist in Birmingham who installed a kit that works exactly as the customer wants it
Just thought of Another thing , why those it seem that it's always the left tailgate lock that lets go? Just changed tailgate too the aluminium one, both locks work perfectly, but i can't get the left one to behave!?
never close the top tailgate using the handle, find out which corner when pushed firmly will catch both locks and use that corner every time. The bottom rail of the aluminium frame is far to flexible to stay straight when closing the tailgate