New old head music feels...weird
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
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Just to clarify, this is no disrespect to the artists I mention or the legacy they have in hip-hop. There is just a handful of recent releases from them that I think are not up to the standard they have set for themselves.
I enjoy when artists merge/experiment with new sounds and genres but I think the instances I mention feel off to me as far as how authentic the music comes off. But I also recognize there is an audience who appreciates this, especially if you are a die hard fan and grew up with someones music.
Is it money? Is it ego? Have these artists been detached for too long? Am I tweaking? Not really sure but curious what y'all think. Lmk in the comments.
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5:30 another dope example of older artists reaching out to newer artists was DOOM collabing a whole album for Bishop Nehru way back 10 or so years ago. I think Bishop had a bit of a buzz going on but I am sure the look from DOOM was huge for him at the time and in the long run. Guy was 17-18 when that happened and NehruvianDOOM dropped
DUDE, how could I miss this example yes! Another great collab that overlooked Nehru’s status and was all for the love of hip-hop. Bless 🙌🏽
Mad read on the LL Cool J album, there's a ton of interesting artistic stuff going on on the album, bit naff to critique it without even doing the bare minimum of listening to the project. Also listening to LL Cool J talking about the album its literally the exact opposite of the vibe you're talking about, he's clearly engaged with the future of the medium and artists (do think its a reasonable read on the other projects you mentioned)
Word, my perspective came just from that single which gave a similar feeling at first to the other videos. Since listening through I did give the album a chance and do enjoy it artistically, might have some things on replay there.
Ima look into his recent path, seems like theres a general respect for his latest work. Appreciate your feedback
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. I can’t think of any genre of music where the younger generation criticizes the pioneers as heavily as hip hop.
I think that’s valid, hopefully there’s less of that and more appreciation for each corner of the genre 💪🏽
If these old head rappers wanna come back, they gotta come with that same sauce they had 30 years ago
You hit the nail, Most of these old head rappers hop on Generic “90s Type Beats” and rap abt how hip hop is dead 🤦🏽♂️ wondering why the corny stereotype gets stronger by the day
We need more MC eiht Kendrick situations bro didn’t know who dot was and hopped on
with all due respect i think you probably should have researched a little more on the artists you mensioned before making the video, i think some good points were made but it's not fully accurate especially LL, that and there's a number of interviews from older rappers talking about either colaborating or wanting to colaborate with newer artists
Completely respect that, Im a fan of a lot of the older artists I mentioned and didn't give the LL album a full listen. My perspective came more from a point of the singles/videos that were pushed before the full album released. I think how those songs are presented in front of an audience are so important and may determine if they get another listen on the album. But there is a spectrum i don't think every og artist I mentioned falls in the same category.
Saturday Night Special is a dope song tho im making my way through the album now. All for the love of hip-hop fam stay up 🫡
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Btw video was well put together I hope you gain more Subs
Appreciate that heavy, hope you stay along for the journey
The problem is the younger generation has too understand when they get older because it will happen then the next generation will be caling you all old headz 😅 keep that in mind The Original Headz aren't thinking about what's popular they still feel they have something too offer and their fanbase is still there something when this generation gets older will they have that same following like a LL or a ice cube only time will tell probably not 😂😂😂
I agree, and I shouldve prefaced this but I dont mean old head as an insult (think of it as OG or unc). I recognize ima be there one day too but I hope our generation will embrace the change and look to blend their skills with what hip hop evolves to. Or they can cater to their own audience and be comfortable, there's a lane for both paths. Interested to see where we go tho, appreciate you watching fam 🙏🏽
@nene-music-official I understand where your coming from alot of the colabs aren't good but the older artists are guest features it's really the younger artists song like Coi Leray & Busta Busta has been around since I was a teenager in the early '90s I'm 47 now he knows that doesn't sound good lol but it's not his place to be honest with her it's her song honestly I hope your generation when you get my age have that real level of understanding you mentioned I really hope so your welcome i subscribed to your channel congrats hopefully it becomes a major platform in hip-hop 💯🫡lord knows there's alot of garbage posing as hip hop.
Respect man, thank you ✌🏽
@nene-music-official your welcome no doubt 🙏🫡💯
Naw you buggin!💯🤔
I say year after year the music becomes more minimalist.. and everyone tries to do their sleepiest version of a Roc Marciano beat.. while rappers become more talky talky and less rappy rappy.
“Kamala Harris needs to get on her Introspective Bag and Drop a Jazz Album with The Alchemist” - some tweet from Twitter 💯🔥🔥✨🤣
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Casting couch set up?
I’m building up studio it’s not finished yet!! 😭😭 ya nashty
You're probably sensing what 3Stacks was saying about having something to say... whether it's regional or generational
🚨dilated peoples mentioned 🚨
had to
Ironically The Alchemist is Eminem’s DJ 😂
imo this mostly jus happens on already old plp in the idustrey trying to re light the essence they once had on their younger days, being for profit or not, it just doesnt work its not genuine
authenticity!!
The label's are pressing the old heads to drop, especially to feature these more label-pushed artists.
Maybe they lost the plot 🤷🏽♂️
yk u dropped a banger when the old heads writing paragraphs in the comments 😂
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I mean let's be honest thay don't have the hart for it and the industry is telling them and it's about them being older
There are maybe no two rappers more dedicated to the preservation of hip-hop than Busta Rhymes and LL Cool J so this is a horrible take. Both of them made efforts to work with younger artists and put them on so I’m not sure what’s inauthentic about them, these songs, and their love for hip-hop. It sounds more like they aren’t working with an artist you like in particular so that’s more a matter of taste than anyone lacking authenticity or trying to bridge the gap between generations. Actually the ball is in the court of the younger generation of artists to reach out to the legends and pioneers and put them on THEIR tracks, not the other way around.
That’s valid, im ofc biased with what i like but i do love both of those artists music. It should be part of the younger artists to want to collab but they may just not have the connects to do that without being dismissed so it goes both ways. As far as authenticity i just maybe expect something different based on their previous catalog that i do enjoy, and don’t feel it here. but i still recognize their huge contributions to hip hop
Glad this is bringing up this discourse, appreciate you you watching ✌🏽
I think it's because they just trying to get money,
few of em just out of their prime, so when they be talking shit, you just can't take it serious,
also nas still doing it, working with Hit Boy, and collaborating with Asap and 21
Nas is another great example of doing it with grace. He still feels authentic in a way
Yo great video. I think em and those like him don’t collab enough. Couldn’t imagine em cooking ideas with Tyler, or j Cole. Just anybody that ain’t him lol
@@nene-music-officialDo you think Ye is doing it authentically? He’s an older artist as well.
Because artists like LL and Busta only work with STARS, they don’t mingle too much with artists that truly love and live Hip Hop.
It sounds wild saying it out loud but I don’t see why Timbaland and 2Chainz were introduced to Mach-Hommy, were blown away by his art and business model, but have NO RECORDS with Mach-Hommy….2Chainz has songs with Kreayshawn, but not Mach-Hommy. Mach-Hommy got beats from Kaytranada but not Timbaland. That’s Hip Hops problem. Nobody is a fan of this shit to the point of that producing CLASSIC songs and albums, they don’t love it as much as they used to.
Like why is Jay Z having dinners with his favorite lyricists but signing artists he doesn’t listen to? I’m sorry but I don’t believe Jay Z is bumpin Lil Uzi Vert by choice at home, although he has a ROC-a-Fella chain and they’re good friends, I still highly doubt it. But you know what makes sense though? “Jay-Z feat. BoriRock & Estee Nack” , “Jay-Z feat. Westside Gunn & Pop Smoke”, “Jay-Z feat. Mach-Hommy, Tha God Fahim, Your Old Droog”. You know what you’ll get though? “Jay-Z feat. Adele” or “Eminem feat. Jason Derulo” before you get some shit like that.
You said a lot to NOT SAY SHIT
I see your point, ultimately if the collabs wont happen naturally then they arent meant to be. It wouldnt result in the best product it could be