Quick update on the keyboard Fn keys issue I had: this is actually documented on the Arch wiki. The fix is really easy! :) wiki.archlinux.org/title/Apple_Keyboard#Function_keys_do_not_work
@@ex-itguyAlso apple isn't that against OCLP, i saw an official forum admin on apple support say that apple doesn't recommend using non apple solutions for blah blah blah (obviously) but that they don't take any action against those that do use it
Monterey didnt deserve to be discontinued. It was the most stable macOS version with the most legacy drivers making opencore better in older macs, anyway nice video!
Maybe, but all newer macOS releases normally get total of 3 years of support, a lot of Ventura's bugs are fixed and same thing for Sonoma, the unfortunate part is that these bugs only really get patched after main software support is over.
Seeing it runs the latest MacOS without any issues whatsoever, I feel Apple might be missing out on some MacOS money. I mean, people will buy those M4's anyway so it's not that they would lose any hardware sales. Ah well.
@@ex-itguyi wonder when apple will offer paid software updates. after like 10 years for 9.99/month. that could save a lot of old hardware and would give incentive to upgrade less when its not necessary.
@@nutzeeer I think they are afraid of losing hardware sales on that. But it would sure be nice to keep older hardware running without having to switch OS'es
Thanks! Indeed I've seen those adapters. But to be honest, 128GB is more than enough for me on this laptop. It's not going to run Doom Eternal anyway and I'm not doing any actual work on this one anymore. :) I do have a short SD card (also 128GB) in it that sits flush with the laptop (took it out for this test) so I can store a little bit more. I used that when I actually worked on this one to store my audio projects.
@@ex-itguy I completely understand what you mean. I find myself using platter HDDs or 128GB SSDs on older machines that I like to fire up from time to time. The worst experience was w/ an old Fujitsu that ran a single core Celeron on Windows Vista. I upgraded that to a Core 2 Duo T7200 + 2GB of DDR2 RAM and man it's.... still kind of slow, but in a much-faster-than-the-original-spec kind of way. 720p youtube videos baby! I also love my old 2013 15" MBP. Still works great in Sequoia with OCLP. My wife's old 2009 13" MBP even runs fine with OCLP Sequoia. There's also a HDD caddy that was installed instead of the Superdrive, so it also runs MX Linux on a cheap 128GB Toshiba SSD that was harvested from a broken Thinkpad tablet (RIP). The Thinkpad basically became an organ donor for my daily X230 (panel). Looking forward to more of your videos. Keep it up!
I'm as strong supporter of keepting Tech alive! I have a Dell XPS 15-inch from 2018!...that's running Fedora Linux just fine, and a Huawei Matebook X Pro from 2019 that's running PureOS with ZERO issues!.....let those who don't know any better keep on shelling out money for the latest version of "The Same Thing"...I'll stick with my hardware?....until they die a graceful death, and then?....they go in my wall cabinet of "Tech-I've-Owned"....to let others see the greatness of DIY / And Self Repair!!
I've been using Fedora for a while, and even on older laptops (HP probooks, etc) it detects everything. It even runs pretty well on a mechanical drive. So far, Fedora hasn't let me down in regards to getting it installed on any computer. And it just works.
Good old planned obsolescence,Apple and now Microsoft loves to make machines that function well be 'unusable' but Linux comes to the rescue in both cases or clever workarounds to make newer versions of the original OSes work.
We're 30 years apart then 😄 I've been in the IT industry for 24 years or so, but in the end didn't like it anymore. As soon as I quit my job, the hobby came back to me. 😃
When I was about that age, my dad worked at a waste disposal station and sometimes intercepted old computers. I had loads of fun playing around with those. Usually having to fix something to get them running. :)
Koop gewoon een nieuwe bro, ik had ook de MacBook Pro 15' maar dan uit 2016. Heeft 8 jaar lang top gewerkt, maar begon langzaam te worden en kreeg ook geen updates meer. Heb nu twee weken de nieuwe M4 pro 16' MacBook Pro. Echt een aanrader, niet normaal wat een upgrade het is. Tuurlijk het kost wat, maar gezien de vorige 8 jaar mee ging, valt het als je het spreid alles mee en geloof me, je gaat echt blij zijn.
@@ex-itguy Ah oké netjes, zal vast ook heel snel zijn en de meeste taken geruisloos uitvoeren. Zat eerst ook te twijfelen of ik een air of een pro zou doen. Ben voor de pro gegaan, maar eigenlijk is het voor mij (tot op heden) overkill, ik weet zeker dat een air ook had volstaan maar misschien voor toekomstige projecten dat de extra kracht van pas kan komen.
Interesting! I googled that, and got into the Arch Wiki stating exactly this! Did this: # echo 2 >> /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode Woohoooooo! Now I just need to make it permanent. :)
I have a 2015 Macbook Air that I am using every day for web browsing, word processing and journalling. I am keeping it stuck at Catalina as to me it is the most optimum version that has just the essential features of Mac OS and iOS integration without crawling my Mac. I am double booting it to Windows 10 sometimes which runs much better than the Mac OS so that I can use my Microsoft Office license (rather than buying the Mac license). And.. I have installed Linux on it with great success. I have upgraded the SSD myself and replaced the battery on my own too. I see no other reason NOT to use this laptop in 2024. All that I wanna do now in 2024 can be done with a computer from 9 years ago. It's user upgradable, it has better ports selection and even has an SD card slot that some entry model Macbook now lack. It felt sluggish when it pairs with a newer Mac OS but runs blazing fast with the Mac OS that comes with it. Typical Apple tradition and fact. My only wish for this laptop is that it runs cooler and it runs longer on batteries - which the M processors can help with. other than that, I am keeping this one for longer.
The not enough space issue with OCLP, even after deleting old files, it might still keep a snapshot of them. If you went to disk utility you could select Macintosh HD and then press Command+Shift+S. This shows the snapshots stored on the hard drive which you could delete.
It is indeed frustrating, I have a late 2013 rMBP 13", and have also used OpenCore back when it was below version 1. It did help to extend the lifespan for a couple of years, I even upgraded the SSD to a 1TB from the default 128GB. However, one day, the laptop crashed, and I never managed to get back my data, and had to reformat everything. Now that I am on Sonama, while it is usable, the experience is not that wonderful. 8GB ram seems to be insufficient for it, and it constantly ran out of memory. I have also swopped the internal battery twice, once in 2020 and another time in 2023. I guess the 2013 macbook pro has reached its end of life.
Well the 2015 one got supported for 9 years, which isn't bad at all tbh. Mine is still fine, no spicy pillow or other issues. If you really want to stick with MacOS I guess there's indeed a practical limit. Running Linux mine sure runs a lot better though! I'm using it for about a week in Arch now and I can honestly say it runs better than it did before. The battery even seems to last longer. Only issue I still have is the SD card. I use a short Transcent card and after sleep it's gone. It only works when I boot without it and plug it in as soon as the OS is loaded. Not a huge issue, but a bit annoying.
0:53 Trust me, I use this on my 2011 mac mini and it works absolutely GREAT, accept for slow start up times. May need to upgrade your hdd to a ssd. Just saying.
3:43 I signed in just fine, no issues, apple does not care, as it is your device and they cannot stop you. It's not illegal to update a "out of date" device using other software. I don't get why people are calling this "illegal."
You don't have to delete the whole harddrive to upgrade from Mojave. I had the same problem serveral times, even when I had 120GB "free". The trick ist to delete the APFS Snapshots in disk management. You have to make the view from only volumes to all devices to see the apfs snapshots on the bottom. After that there is enough space.
So, for KDE, yes and no. You can setup a custom action that treats the key as it would normally behave when in FN mode, then add a custom action that does the opposite when FN is pressed, in essence just reversing the keys, but this is obviously hacky and weird.
Well it might be a solution. Since there's no bios setup on these things you can't set it there so it has to be done in the OS. I'm actually mostly using F12 a lot for that's the default key to open Yakuake and I'm used to pressing that to open a terminal (I had even set F12 to open iTerm in MacOS 😅) Thanks!
In my personal experience with one of these, they were able to handle Ventura when OpenCore Legacy first made a patcher for that macOS version. Any update afterward, namely for Sonoma and beyond, broke functionality in a number of ways.
@ For me, I lost the ability to change the speaker volume using the hotkey buttons (have to go into the control center) & any file I download ends up “damaged” to where I have to run a terminal command as a workaround just to open - it happens even to documents INCLUDING images.
@ It wasn’t happening until I updated the OpenCore since the video graphics driver broke suddenly on the original version originally designed for Ventura somehow. It was working fine otherwise beforehand so I’m confident it isn’t the hardware since I refurbished it myself after being given it for free on the pretense that it was broken
I have one running 15.1.1 just fine check out open core legacy booter. I do have an M1 and with the prices falling and the entry level M4 at its price point it would be a good time to pull the trigger on a new(er) one.
Really? I find their website a pain to navigate so I believe I used Distrowatch to download the iso because I just couldn't find it on opensuse.org. I guess I should look harder then. 😄 Edit: check! I don't know how I overlooked that! Still can't find the downloads from their website but using the link on Distrowatch I can just open the live folder...
Dank je wel! Ik denk dat elke Linux distro wel prima moet werken, maar persoonlijk vind ik Arch best fijn op deze laptop inderdaad! Ik laat het er nog even op staan, kijken hoe het bevalt. Ik gebruik het ding nog meermalen per week. :)
An enjoyable video!👍👍 Perhaps you could install Linux Mint Mate version, it works well on my 2008 MBP., it even found the correct driver for the Mac WiFi, which can be installed via the notifications tab or driver manager, being from 2008 the computer does have an Ethernet port, but only two USB., ports and they are both on the same side, unfortunately the CPU., is soldered to the MB., but the ram and the drive are removable. I prefer computers which are designed for maintenance though and the HP ProBook 6560b and 6570b are well designed for maintenance, there are two slides on the bottom, one of which releases the battery and the other releases the bottom cover and then everything is accessible and they have socketed CPUs..
Thanks! I expect Mint to do as well as other distros I tried. I mean, in the end they're all using the same kernel, drivers, etc. This 2015 MBP is not very upgradeable. You can change the SSD for an NVMe using an adapter, but that's about it. Even the memory is soldered on.
@@ex-itguy In my opinion, Apple are creating e-waste these days, having said that, dosdude1 is able to repair and upgrade even the most modern Macs, but not everyone has that ability or the required equipment.
@@ex-itguy My previous reply disappeared so I shall try again, in my opinion, Apple are creating e-waste by making their current products non upgradeable.
hey IT guy! I wanted to ask that if you have some upcoming projects or works for this laptop or you're just gonna keep it in your storage. If by any means you have no use for this Can I have it?
some people think using open core legacy patcher is illegal but it's not because you can download the latest versions of macOS from Apple's website for free so it's impossible for that to be illegal if the software is free to begin with.
Grey area I guess. In the past Apple sold MacOS separately. Today it's bound to a device as a "free" download. It's not free though, as it's only to be used with a supported device.
I was going to say, try installing windows 7 on this bad boy.... It's harder than you think, but it makes a super fun video, and I've done it, so I can help
I know a lot of people won't like this suggestion, but i personally really like ChromeOS flex. I installed it on an old machine I had and it's a really good option especially if you only need it to surf the web. I think it's a good option for a lot of people, especially kids/ the elderly.
i have a early 2008 macbook pro running monterrey and it runs fine enough, its a shame they removed the usb 1.1 support on ventura, its the only reason why i stuck with monterrey
@@ex-itguy from what i head yeah, you need to use a usb dongle to usb 2 for some stuff to work or something like that, its a shame really cause for what i use it it still great, im using it rn to type this lol
I also have a 2015 MBP but with 16 GB of RAM and also installed Sequoia with OCLP. It runs but way worse than under Monterey. I think Apple will drop the support for Intel Macs very soon so the Linux option is really one to consider.
Interesting. I didn't test it extensively with Sequoia but it felt about the same as before. Linux sure runs a bit faster though. I also expect Apple to drop Intel support soon. Wouldn't surprise me as Sequoia is the last version to support Intel macs.
@@ex-itguyI don’t think it will be the last, as Apple released Intel Macs as recently 2020, and still currently support models as old as 2017, so I think there will be at least another couple of versions to support Intel
@@ex-itguy To be precise: It seems that the graphics drivers/kexts for the integrated graphics are the cause. This happens in Chrome, Spotify, Adobe programs with GPU support. Maybe it would run better if I chose a MBP with discrete graphics?
Nice, wide os compatibility that's one of the many upsides of the intel mac computers it seems. Everyone talks about how great the m series ones are and how fast they are, but that does not matter when your SSD will die after a few years and you can't even boot externally since the bios is on the internal drive. Those m series ones are designed to be disposable sadly.
@@ex-itguy I think those can boot from USB though I am not totally sure. the problem I was talking about was that the bios is on the SSD so when it fails then it can't boot into anything so it is bricked due to no bios. I should have clarified that. Louis Rossman spoke about it in a video I think. I remembered it because I was looking at one of those M1 air models because of the battery life, but when I found out that the SSD and ram are soldered and tied to the device I just got a normal laptop. they could make the most powerful and longest battery laptop but if it is doomed to fail with soldered on SSD then it is worthless. I like to keep stuff for a long long time so that put me off apple laptops.
That's really bad. I hope it doesn't happen... Tbh I looked at buying a Linux laptop when I needed something faster, but the fact that I'm using iZoptope audio plugins for which there's no good alternative I bought myself a new Mac. Those only run on Windows and MacOS and I'm not going to work on Windows haha
@@ex-itguy Yeah understandable, windows 10 and 11 are real bad and lot of stuff only work on win or mac. I just wanted to warn you since I was also looking at arm powered mac until I dug deeper to find out how restrictive the hardware is and some of the scetchy things in mac os that are being added. I hope the SSD lasts long in yours, maybe use external storage as much as possible to save wear on the SSD. Anyway thanks for uploading cool videos!
@@Compact-Disc_700mb Ah well, it's over a year old by now. Can't really return it 😆 I'll keep trying to get my audio stuff working on Linux though. In another video I even had an iZoptope plugin running by the way. It's just the licensing part that doesn't work. Can't login to prove I paid for it so I'm stuck with a 14 day trial.
Lekker man Persoonlijk zou ik waarschijnlijk upgraden naar nieuwere versie met OpenCore en dan iets als Linux Mint dual booten, want 🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧 LINUX FTW 🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧
Waarom OpenCore als je er toch Linux gaat draaien? Heb ik een functie van OC gemist? 😅 Zelf geen enorme fan van Mint (of Ubuntu derivaten in het algemeen) maar ik verwacht dat ook dat er prima op zal draaien. 🙂
@@ex-itguy Ja ik ben met MacOS opgegroeid als tiener, plus als je een MacBook hebt is het toch in mijn ogen zonde er geen MacOS te draaien, want niet elke device kan dat... Naast dat ik sowieso dual boot fijn vindt om compatibiliteitsredenen. Zit nu op een Windows + Mint dual boot, Windows voor anti-cheat games, CAD software (verplicht voor uni) en MS Office, de rest doe ik allemaal met Mint.
@@ex-itguy Verder, Mint was hetgeen waarmee ik mijn MacBook Pro Mid 2009 revivede en heb er verder niet echt negatieve ervaringen mee, alhoewel ik wel ooit iets als Manjaro of EndeavourOS (of normaal Arch) wil uitproberen...
First hit on Google when you search for "Ventoy" 😉 It's an open source project, you need to download the app and use that to create a stick (any stick will do but the bigger the better). There's also an ISO which you can burn to a cd and boot that to create your stick.
i have the same model, i did sequoia before it released, and its crap load of crap, decided to go with linux and its too much of an inconvenient for such a small improvement, guess monterey is really that good
I like Linux so I don't find it inconvenient at all, but that's personal taste I guess. The problem is that Monterey will be an insecure OS to connect to the internet soon.
What do you mean? They have supported this machine for 9 years, which is a lot longer than other brands do. Would be nice if they'd just sell you an upgrade to Sequoia though 🙂
Never even thought about that. What Android apps would you think be interesting on Linux? I was planning on doing a video on ChromeOS or a variant of that by the way.
In the form of OpenMandriva yes, and Mageia was forked from Mandriva before they went bankrupt. I do not share your conclusion. How many laptops do you have that work flawlessly after 9 years? Even the battery shows as 75% healthy on this thing, which is good for several hours of usage (usually around 3 or 4).
Did I mention I do have an M2? ;) Tbh, video editing is the only reason I upgraded about a year ago. For everything else, the i5 is still plenty enough (well apart from gaming, but I'm not doing that on the M2 either).
Sequoia FLIES on my $150 2015 11 inch MBA thanks to OCLP, the only thing this thing won't do is edit video, but I'm not sure it ever could even when it was new. Point is, GET FKED, APPLE.
Indeed it felt about the same as Monterey on this one. Video editing is the main reason I bought an M2 last year. 😉 It's fine on iMovie, a little sluggish on Filmora and totally unusable on Davinci Resolve. I guess Final Cut Pro could work but I wasn't able to pay that much and didn't want a cracked version on my work laptop.
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Quick update on the keyboard Fn keys issue I had: this is actually documented on the Arch wiki. The fix is really easy! :)
wiki.archlinux.org/title/Apple_Keyboard#Function_keys_do_not_work
I thought the speaker crackle issue was wider spread?
@tomskitv I haven't heard of that. No speaker issues here. :)
It is safe to use your Apple ID, the serial number on your machine isn't spoofed so it won't trigger Apple like it would on a Hackintosh.
Good to know!
MMMM you use the parch of open core lengeny ,if you want salve you machine ,are for old macbook and MacOS 2007-2017
@@ex-itguyAlso apple isn't that against OCLP, i saw an official forum admin on apple support say that apple doesn't recommend using non apple solutions for blah blah blah (obviously) but that they don't take any action against those that do use it
even on my hackintoshes apple doesn't really care
@ that’s likely because you already have a real Apple device connected to your ID
Monterey didnt deserve to be discontinued. It was the most stable macOS version with the most legacy drivers making opencore better in older macs, anyway nice video!
Thanks! I actually hadn't tried opencore before. People pointed me to that on my Mac Pro video a while ago but it wasn't an option on the 1,1.
Do you recommend a newer version that still can be patched and works alright on older Macs? 2011-2015 ish
Maybe, but all newer macOS releases normally get total of 3 years of support, a lot of Ventura's bugs are fixed and same thing for Sonoma, the unfortunate part is that these bugs only really get patched after main software support is over.
that intro jingle alone warrant you at least 100K sub
Thanks! That would be pretty cool haha
But what do we say to apple ? “stfu”
Seeing it runs the latest MacOS without any issues whatsoever, I feel Apple might be missing out on some MacOS money. I mean, people will buy those M4's anyway so it's not that they would lose any hardware sales. Ah well.
@@ex-itguyi wonder when apple will offer paid software updates. after like 10 years for 9.99/month. that could save a lot of old hardware and would give incentive to upgrade less when its not necessary.
@@nutzeeer I think they are afraid of losing hardware sales on that. But it would sure be nice to keep older hardware running without having to switch OS'es
I think the 2015 models can accept an NVMe with a little adapter. Works well! I like your videos my friend.
Thanks! Indeed I've seen those adapters. But to be honest, 128GB is more than enough for me on this laptop. It's not going to run Doom Eternal anyway and I'm not doing any actual work on this one anymore. :)
I do have a short SD card (also 128GB) in it that sits flush with the laptop (took it out for this test) so I can store a little bit more. I used that when I actually worked on this one to store my audio projects.
@@ex-itguy I completely understand what you mean. I find myself using platter HDDs or 128GB SSDs on older machines that I like to fire up from time to time. The worst experience was w/ an old Fujitsu that ran a single core Celeron on Windows Vista. I upgraded that to a Core 2 Duo T7200 + 2GB of DDR2 RAM and man it's.... still kind of slow, but in a much-faster-than-the-original-spec kind of way. 720p youtube videos baby!
I also love my old 2013 15" MBP. Still works great in Sequoia with OCLP. My wife's old 2009 13" MBP even runs fine with OCLP Sequoia. There's also a HDD caddy that was installed instead of the Superdrive, so it also runs MX Linux on a cheap 128GB Toshiba SSD that was harvested from a broken Thinkpad tablet (RIP). The Thinkpad basically became an organ donor for my daily X230 (panel).
Looking forward to more of your videos. Keep it up!
Welcome to the club, 2013 MacBook Pro 😔
If I had an old mac I would use Hackingtosh or Linux(as a linux user) , no way I'm using windows on mac.
Good video btw!
Me neither, but I thought it was fun to try for the sake of the video. No way I'm going to use that on any of my machines haha
After distro hopping for years, I finally settled on Arch a couple of years ago and now use it on every machine I own btw.
I might keep it on here as well, it works really well!
"btw" 😭
arch btw
distro hopping seems so dumb to me. half of the differences seem to be purely cosmetic.
what arch distro?
I'm as strong supporter of keepting Tech alive! I have a Dell XPS 15-inch from 2018!...that's running Fedora Linux just fine, and a Huawei Matebook X Pro from 2019 that's running PureOS with ZERO issues!.....let those who don't know any better keep on shelling out money for the latest version of "The Same Thing"...I'll stick with my hardware?....until they die a graceful death, and then?....they go in my wall cabinet of "Tech-I've-Owned"....to let others see the greatness of DIY / And Self Repair!!
I've been using Fedora for a while, and even on older laptops (HP probooks, etc) it detects everything. It even runs pretty well on a mechanical drive. So far, Fedora hasn't let me down in regards to getting it installed on any computer. And it just works.
It worked fine here as well, apart from the webcam which would be fixable using the same driver I installed on arch. :)
When I get my A1181,I would try to install Sequoia,and document the whole process
I'd love to see that one run the Sequoia!
Good old planned obsolescence,Apple and now Microsoft loves to make machines that function well be 'unusable' but Linux comes to the rescue in both cases or clever workarounds to make newer versions of the original OSes work.
I had an old iMac 7 so I upgraded the memory from 2M to 4 and installed Debian. Works Great.
I’m a 13yr old IT enthusiast like you are an IT guy too! - Riley
We're 30 years apart then 😄
I've been in the IT industry for 24 years or so, but in the end didn't like it anymore. As soon as I quit my job, the hobby came back to me. 😃
@suezq74, me too!
im a 12yo it enthusiast, i got 5 computers in my storage room 😂
When I was about that age, my dad worked at a waste disposal station and sometimes intercepted old computers.
I had loads of fun playing around with those. Usually having to fix something to get them running. :)
@@ex-itguy dayumm
my dad works as a sailor but retired in 2012 when i was born!
I have a 2020 intel macbook pro 13 inch but it kinda feels slow running latest mac is it worth trying linux
Yeahhh try asahi😊
@ on intel?
I use imac 2013, still works.
OpenCore works surprisingly good
Way easier than I expected it to be!
Koop gewoon een nieuwe bro, ik had ook de MacBook Pro 15' maar dan uit 2016. Heeft 8 jaar lang top gewerkt, maar begon langzaam te worden en kreeg ook geen updates meer. Heb nu twee weken de nieuwe M4 pro 16' MacBook Pro. Echt een aanrader, niet normaal wat een upgrade het is. Tuurlijk het kost wat, maar gezien de vorige 8 jaar mee ging, valt het als je het spreid alles mee en geloof me, je gaat echt blij zijn.
Ik heb al een nieuwe ;)
Vorig jaar een M2 air gekocht. Maar deze gebruik ik nog regelmatig in de woonkamer, dan kan de M2 in de studio blijven liggen.
@@ex-itguy Ah oké netjes, zal vast ook heel snel zijn en de meeste taken geruisloos uitvoeren. Zat eerst ook te twijfelen of ik een air of een pro zou doen. Ben voor de pro gegaan, maar eigenlijk is het voor mij (tot op heden) overkill, ik weet zeker dat een air ook had volstaan maar misschien voor toekomstige projecten dat de extra kracht van pas kan komen.
You might be able to get the desired performance on Arch with the function keys by enabling Fn-lock
Interesting!
I googled that, and got into the Arch Wiki stating exactly this!
Did this:
# echo 2 >> /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode
Woohoooooo!
Now I just need to make it permanent. :)
@@ex-itguy glad I could help :)
watched the whole video without skipping, great content!
That's awesome! Thanks!
I have a 2015 Macbook Air that I am using every day for web browsing, word processing and journalling. I am keeping it stuck at Catalina as to me it is the most optimum version that has just the essential features of Mac OS and iOS integration without crawling my Mac.
I am double booting it to Windows 10 sometimes which runs much better than the Mac OS so that I can use my Microsoft Office license (rather than buying the Mac license). And.. I have installed Linux on it with great success.
I have upgraded the SSD myself and replaced the battery on my own too.
I see no other reason NOT to use this laptop in 2024. All that I wanna do now in 2024 can be done with a computer from 9 years ago. It's user upgradable, it has better ports selection and even has an SD card slot that some entry model Macbook now lack.
It felt sluggish when it pairs with a newer Mac OS but runs blazing fast with the Mac OS that comes with it. Typical Apple tradition and fact.
My only wish for this laptop is that it runs cooler and it runs longer on batteries - which the M processors can help with.
other than that, I am keeping this one for longer.
It sure are great machines, and indeed my M2 Air only has two usb-c ports and a mini jack... so I really need to use a dock with that one.
I run Sonoma with OCLP on 3 different Macs, I wonder why people doesn't install Sonoma and wait for Sequoia and OCLP to mature first...
Idk, I figured I'd just try the latest because that's the one that will be supported longest. Seemed to work just fine though.
I use my Apple ID on my mid-2012 MBP on OpenCore sequoia 16, perfectly fine.
Good to know! ☺️
The not enough space issue with OCLP, even after deleting old files, it might still keep a snapshot of them. If you went to disk utility you could select Macintosh HD and then press Command+Shift+S. This shows the snapshots stored on the hard drive which you could delete.
That's what another commenter said as well. Makes sense. Shows I'm a total n00b 😆
It is indeed frustrating, I have a late 2013 rMBP 13", and have also used OpenCore back when it was below version 1. It did help to extend the lifespan for a couple of years, I even upgraded the SSD to a 1TB from the default 128GB.
However, one day, the laptop crashed, and I never managed to get back my data, and had to reformat everything.
Now that I am on Sonama, while it is usable, the experience is not that wonderful. 8GB ram seems to be insufficient for it, and it constantly ran out of memory. I have also swopped the internal battery twice, once in 2020 and another time in 2023.
I guess the 2013 macbook pro has reached its end of life.
Well the 2015 one got supported for 9 years, which isn't bad at all tbh. Mine is still fine, no spicy pillow or other issues.
If you really want to stick with MacOS I guess there's indeed a practical limit.
Running Linux mine sure runs a lot better though! I'm using it for about a week in Arch now and I can honestly say it runs better than it did before. The battery even seems to last longer. Only issue I still have is the SD card. I use a short Transcent card and after sleep it's gone. It only works when I boot without it and plug it in as soon as the OS is loaded. Not a huge issue, but a bit annoying.
I have few machines that don’t support current configuration so I’m installing some other os
0:53 Trust me, I use this on my 2011 mac mini and it works absolutely GREAT, accept for slow start up times. May need to upgrade your hdd to a ssd. Just saying.
3:43 I signed in just fine, no issues, apple does not care, as it is your device and they cannot stop you. It's not illegal to update a "out of date" device using other software. I don't get why people are calling this "illegal."
2015 MBP has an ssd by default
ohhhh, should i try on my 2012 macbook pro? But first i need to fix power connectior issue :c
Yeah I wouldn't try anything without a working power connector haha
Yes it should work well on your 2012 MacBook, i'm running monterey on my 2009 17" MacBook
You don't have to delete the whole harddrive to upgrade from Mojave. I had the same problem serveral times, even when I had 120GB "free". The trick ist to delete the APFS Snapshots in disk management. You have to make the view from only volumes to all devices to see the apfs snapshots on the bottom. After that there is enough space.
Richt! That makes sense!
So, for KDE, yes and no. You can setup a custom action that treats the key as it would normally behave when in FN mode, then add a custom action that does the opposite when FN is pressed, in essence just reversing the keys, but this is obviously hacky and weird.
Well it might be a solution. Since there's no bios setup on these things you can't set it there so it has to be done in the OS. I'm actually mostly using F12 a lot for that's the default key to open Yakuake and I'm used to pressing that to open a terminal (I had even set F12 to open iTerm in MacOS 😅)
Thanks!
In my personal experience with one of these, they were able to handle Ventura when OpenCore Legacy first made a patcher for that macOS version. Any update afterward, namely for Sonoma and beyond, broke functionality in a number of ways.
Everything seemed to work fine, but I haven't tested it thoroughly to be honest.
@ For me, I lost the ability to change the speaker volume using the hotkey buttons (have to go into the control center) & any file I download ends up “damaged” to where I have to run a terminal command as a workaround just to open - it happens even to documents INCLUDING images.
@@damian9303 oof, that's not good. That doesn't happen on any other OS? Sure the machine isn't bad?
@ It wasn’t happening until I updated the OpenCore since the video graphics driver broke suddenly on the original version originally designed for Ventura somehow. It was working fine otherwise beforehand so I’m confident it isn’t the hardware since I refurbished it myself after being given it for free on the pretense that it was broken
4:14 bootcamp saves you from broken WiFi
Yes, but I cleared the whole drive 😋
I use Ubuntu on several older EOL MBA and MBP with satisfying results for Office use - never tried gaming tho.
Yeah these old Macs perform pretty well. I thought gaming was fun because it's something I have never done on my MacBook before haha
I have one running 15.1.1 just fine check out open core legacy booter. I do have an M1 and with the prices falling and the entry level M4 at its price point it would be a good time to pull the trigger on a new(er) one.
Open Core is the first thing I show in the video haha
I already have an M2 air, but this one I still use regularly in the living room. :)
i had a 12,1 a few months ago :3 ran 13.6.1 via OpenCore Legacy Patcher
10:32 - OpenSUSE has live session ISOs
Really? I find their website a pain to navigate so I believe I used Distrowatch to download the iso because I just couldn't find it on opensuse.org. I guess I should look harder then. 😄
Edit: check! I don't know how I overlooked that!
Still can't find the downloads from their website but using the link on Distrowatch I can just open the live folder...
Leuke video! Ik denk dat Arch Linux de beste optie is hier, aangezien Windows 11 best wat bugs kan hebben soms 😅
Dank je wel! Ik denk dat elke Linux distro wel prima moet werken, maar persoonlijk vind ik Arch best fijn op deze laptop inderdaad! Ik laat het er nog even op staan, kijken hoe het bevalt. Ik gebruik het ding nog meermalen per week. :)
You can always run Mac OS as on unsupported hardware
Well not always, but this seemed to work fine
I use a late 2015 MacBook Pro with 500 GB and I am sad that some apps don’t work anymore but there still isn’t really a problem yet
True, but it can become a security disaster quite quickly as you won't get any security updates anymore.
@@ex-itguy oh yeah
An enjoyable video!👍👍
Perhaps you could install Linux Mint Mate version, it works well on my 2008 MBP., it even found the correct driver for the Mac WiFi, which can be installed via the notifications tab or driver manager, being from 2008 the computer does have an Ethernet port, but only two USB., ports and they are both on the same side, unfortunately the CPU., is soldered to the MB., but the ram and the drive are removable.
I prefer computers which are designed for maintenance though and the HP ProBook 6560b and 6570b are well designed for maintenance, there are two slides on the bottom, one of which releases the battery and the other releases the bottom cover and then everything is accessible and they have socketed CPUs..
Thanks! I expect Mint to do as well as other distros I tried. I mean, in the end they're all using the same kernel, drivers, etc.
This 2015 MBP is not very upgradeable. You can change the SSD for an NVMe using an adapter, but that's about it. Even the memory is soldered on.
@@ex-itguy In my opinion, Apple are creating e-waste these days, having said that, dosdude1 is able to repair and upgrade even the most modern Macs, but not everyone has that ability or the required equipment.
I certainly would be lost as soon as I'm going to solder stuff on a logic board haha
@@ex-itguy Yes, it would take a while to master the required skills and to get the equipment, dosdude1 manages it.
@@ex-itguy My previous reply disappeared so I shall try again, in my opinion, Apple are creating e-waste by making their current products non upgradeable.
It’s going on 10 years old. 8-10 years is the standard lifespan for a laptop.
True, not really anything to complain about. :)
I can’t get over the fact that this machine is 10 years old, I’m getting old 😭😭😭😭
Well, 9. You can breathe for a bit now haha
hey IT guy! I wanted to ask that if you have some upcoming projects or works for this laptop or you're just gonna keep it in your storage. If by any means you have no use for this Can I have it?
Haha, no you can't have it sorry. ;)
It's my previous laptop which I still quite often use. :)
tf you mean "legal way" to upgrade, its your device do whatever you want??
some people think using open core legacy patcher is illegal but it's not because you can download the latest versions of macOS from Apple's website for free so it's impossible for that to be illegal if the software is free to begin with.
Grey area I guess. In the past Apple sold MacOS separately. Today it's bound to a device as a "free" download.
It's not free though, as it's only to be used with a supported device.
Nobody with a single functioning brain cell cares what a corporation considers 'legal'
We do wtf we want.
@@ex-itguy To be downloaded, used, and distributed as we please.
I've made a lot of money slapping Windows onto USB sticks.
I was going to say, try installing windows 7 on this bad boy.... It's harder than you think, but it makes a super fun video, and I've done it, so I can help
I thought Windows 11 was torture enough haha
I know a lot of people won't like this suggestion, but i personally really like ChromeOS flex. I installed it on an old machine I had and it's a really good option especially if you only need it to surf the web. I think it's a good option for a lot of people, especially kids/ the elderly.
I think ChromeOS is perfect for people who just want a working computer to surf the web. I was already planning on making a video about it. :)
Windows 11 worked because Ventoy already has those workaround/hacks placed in.
Really? Oops 😆
i have a early 2008 macbook pro running monterrey and it runs fine enough, its a shame they removed the usb 1.1 support on ventura, its the only reason why i stuck with monterrey
Did they? That's even worse than removing 32 bit support (which is why gaming is such an issue on MacOS...)
@@ex-itguy from what i head yeah, you need to use a usb dongle to usb 2 for some stuff to work or something like that, its a shame really cause for what i use it it still great, im using it rn to type this lol
I also have a 2015 MBP but with 16 GB of RAM and also installed Sequoia with OCLP. It runs but way worse than under Monterey. I think Apple will drop the support for Intel Macs very soon so the Linux option is really one to consider.
Interesting. I didn't test it extensively with Sequoia but it felt about the same as before. Linux sure runs a bit faster though.
I also expect Apple to drop Intel support soon. Wouldn't surprise me as Sequoia is the last version to support Intel macs.
@@ex-itguyI don’t think it will be the last, as Apple released Intel Macs as recently 2020, and still currently support models as old as 2017, so I think there will be at least another couple of versions to support Intel
@@ex-itguy To be precise: It seems that the graphics drivers/kexts for the integrated graphics are the cause. This happens in Chrome, Spotify, Adobe programs with GPU support. Maybe it would run better if I chose a MBP with discrete graphics?
Seeing openMandriva & Mageia in one video is quite a feat...
...but you know TempleOS is the only real answer
Hahaha, I guess I should really try that some time. 😄
Nice, wide os compatibility that's one of the many upsides of the intel mac computers it seems. Everyone talks about how great the m series ones are and how fast they are, but that does not matter when your SSD will die after a few years and you can't even boot externally since the bios is on the internal drive. Those m series ones are designed to be disposable sadly.
I didn't even know that. Maybe I should see if my M2 will boot from USB.
@@ex-itguy I think those can boot from USB though I am not totally sure. the problem I was talking about was that the bios is on the SSD so when it fails then it can't boot into anything so it is bricked due to no bios. I should have clarified that. Louis Rossman spoke about it in a video I think.
I remembered it because I was looking at one of those M1 air models because of the battery life, but when I found out that the SSD and ram are soldered and tied to the device I just got a normal laptop. they could make the most powerful and longest battery laptop but if it is doomed to fail with soldered on SSD then it is worthless. I like to keep stuff for a long long time so that put me off apple laptops.
That's really bad. I hope it doesn't happen...
Tbh I looked at buying a Linux laptop when I needed something faster, but the fact that I'm using iZoptope audio plugins for which there's no good alternative I bought myself a new Mac. Those only run on Windows and MacOS and I'm not going to work on Windows haha
@@ex-itguy Yeah understandable, windows 10 and 11 are real bad and lot of stuff only work on win or mac. I just wanted to warn you since I was also looking at arm powered mac until I dug deeper to find out how restrictive the hardware is and some of the scetchy things in mac os that are being added. I hope the SSD lasts long in yours, maybe use external storage as much as possible to save wear on the SSD.
Anyway thanks for uploading cool videos!
@@Compact-Disc_700mb Ah well, it's over a year old by now. Can't really return it 😆
I'll keep trying to get my audio stuff working on Linux though. In another video I even had an iZoptope plugin running by the way. It's just the licensing part that doesn't work. Can't login to prove I paid for it so I'm stuck with a 14 day trial.
My 2012 Macbook Pro still works fine. Just use it, don’t whine.
Should be fine to login with your Apple ID. It's not illegal to run macOS Sequoia on an old machine. As long as it's not used commercially I guess.
Grey area I guess, but nice to know that it isn't an issue. 🙂
Lekker man
Persoonlijk zou ik waarschijnlijk upgraden naar nieuwere versie met OpenCore en dan iets als Linux Mint dual booten, want 🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧 LINUX FTW 🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧
Waarom OpenCore als je er toch Linux gaat draaien? Heb ik een functie van OC gemist? 😅
Zelf geen enorme fan van Mint (of Ubuntu derivaten in het algemeen) maar ik verwacht dat ook dat er prima op zal draaien. 🙂
@@ex-itguy Ja ik ben met MacOS opgegroeid als tiener, plus als je een MacBook hebt is het toch in mijn ogen zonde er geen MacOS te draaien, want niet elke device kan dat... Naast dat ik sowieso dual boot fijn vindt om compatibiliteitsredenen. Zit nu op een Windows + Mint dual boot, Windows voor anti-cheat games, CAD software (verplicht voor uni) en MS Office, de rest doe ik allemaal met Mint.
@@ex-itguy Verder, Mint was hetgeen waarmee ik mijn MacBook Pro Mid 2009 revivede en heb er verder niet echt negatieve ervaringen mee, alhoewel ik wel ooit iets als Manjaro of EndeavourOS (of normaal Arch) wil uitproberen...
Uiteindelijk maakt het niet zoveel uit, het is vooral persoonlijke voorkeur. :)
welp, my laptop is cooked.
😢
on windows normally its fn and esc key that fixes it normally
Tried that but it doesn't work. It can be fixed in the driver though. Link in the description and pinned comment. :)
Can someone give me the file for the ventoy usb stick pls
First hit on Google when you search for "Ventoy" 😉
It's an open source project, you need to download the app and use that to create a stick (any stick will do but the bigger the better). There's also an ISO which you can burn to a cd and boot that to create your stick.
i have the same model, i did sequoia before it released, and its crap load of crap, decided to go with linux and its too much of an inconvenient for such a small improvement, guess monterey is really that good
I like Linux so I don't find it inconvenient at all, but that's personal taste I guess. The problem is that Monterey will be an insecure OS to connect to the internet soon.
4:14 you can just use boot camp
Booting the installer? How would that help?
It’s been almost 10 years… give it up at this point.
Why? It's still a perfectly capable machine. There's enough waste on this world as it is...
Apple should give some type of concessions.
What do you mean? They have supported this machine for 9 years, which is a lot longer than other brands do.
Would be nice if they'd just sell you an upgrade to Sequoia though 🙂
Can you try android apps on linux
Never even thought about that. What Android apps would you think be interesting on Linux?
I was planning on doing a video on ChromeOS or a variant of that by the way.
@ try things like subway surf or any other games for the x86 processing system or install the clock app and any Asop apps
I'll put it on my list of things to check out 🙂
i still use my 2015 MacBook pro
The EXIT GUY!
What? Fix your printer? _makes a run for the exit_ 😆
Open core legacy patcher
I smell the dutch
Echt? Toch maar even douchen dan...
mandriva still exists?
conclusion? do not buy apple
In the form of OpenMandriva yes, and Mageia was forked from Mandriva before they went bankrupt.
I do not share your conclusion. How many laptops do you have that work flawlessly after 9 years? Even the battery shows as 75% healthy on this thing, which is good for several hours of usage (usually around 3 or 4).
ending for you and apple , not for me
Not for me either, as the video shows ;)
@@ex-itguy yes, you are doing great
ASAHI TIME😊❤
Sorry what? 😅
Ah right, it's a Linux distro. One aimed at apple silicon machines though, so that's not gonna work here :)
Nice
Thanks!
kipnugget
Wattes?
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yeah!
All intel macs are end of life, Apple silicon makes them all look like poop
They were VERY far behind the competition. M-series is insane innovation.
Did I mention I do have an M2? ;)
Tbh, video editing is the only reason I upgraded about a year ago. For everything else, the i5 is still plenty enough (well apart from gaming, but I'm not doing that on the M2 either).
Too bad it's still a Mac
Sequoia FLIES on my $150 2015 11 inch MBA thanks to OCLP, the only thing this thing won't do is edit video, but I'm not sure it ever could even when it was new.
Point is, GET FKED, APPLE.
Indeed it felt about the same as Monterey on this one. Video editing is the main reason I bought an M2 last year. 😉
It's fine on iMovie, a little sluggish on Filmora and totally unusable on Davinci Resolve.
I guess Final Cut Pro could work but I wasn't able to pay that much and didn't want a cracked version on my work laptop.