If not for internet musicians I literally wouldn't have rediscovered my passion for playing guitar. Idk about any of you, but that, for me, is enough reason to appreciate the existence of online musicians. I've also progressed as a player way more BECAUSE of internet musicians and lessons than I ever would have had I done it all by myself.
Absolutely. I've been playing for going on 40 years but I kind of gave up on it about 20 years ago because all I want to do is record and everyone I know is stuck in the live only rut. I discovered Andy James and Angel Vivaldi about 10 years ago and at first they made me want to burn all of my shit. 🤣 Eventually I got the spark back and now I'm in a band that wants to do some live stuff, which is better than drugs, but they are most interested in recording now that it's become so easy to do. Our drummer is fucking amazing with a computer. I haven't been this excited about music in a very long time.
Also remember that older generation hated rock music (like they hated Elvis Presley) & even they called it "The Devil's Music". Also Jazz musicians & jazz community hated it too lol & Jazz was once dominant the US before rock came. I think Rock is becoming the new Jazz unfortunately.
I love the earnestness of this video. Musicians should definitely do what they want to do. Play at home, play on stage. If theater has taught me anything, it’s that the world is your stage. Your audience will come.
Also they may not have considered that RUclips musicians do this because they don't care to be on a big physical stage for whatever personal reason. That'd be like shaming a comedy youtuber for not hitting the venue circuit, which yes, some end up doing but it is far from mandatory, with the internet being what it is.
It's not the internet guitarists are hated, it's that anyone who's willing to put themselves out there with moderate confidence is going to get hate. Haters can't stand people being happy or good at stuff. That's the nature of hate.
As someone who has toured their entire adult life, his comments about touring being "spending 95% of your time in a bus, van, or hotel room, completely bored out of your mind, probably hungover, and almost definitely with immense diarrhea from all the crappy food you've been surviving on" is absolutely... True.
As a guitarist born in the late 70's I always wished something like nowadays platform existed. Even if i still do not like the bait click system i really loved your approach in this video. Life's evolving and it's a good thing, big up to you and continue like that !
I still remember the one video of the most hated guitarist from Stevie T He said he gets alot of hate but doesn't care because the things people told him like he makes them happy and feel less depressed . He said that he will gladly have all that hate just to hear the those things and honestly that's why I love him so much
@@Ottophil Oh poor you. You watch Stevie T knowing that you get "SaD aNd DePReSsEd" but then come here and complain about it? If you don't wanna feel that way, just don't watch his content. Easy as that. Also what do you want to gain by having your negative feelings matter more than everyone else's? Do you hate Stevie so much that you want all of his fans to give up on him just because you don't like his content? Give me a break...
As someone who is pretty heavily introverted and has social anxiety, the whole social media thing is kind of confusing and exhausting. It's like the difference between performing for 20 bar patrons or performing at a family reunion, where the latter is a far more anxiety inducing experience. I can stand behind a microphone and sing at a room of strangers and still feel like I'm completely anonymous to them. That same barrier doesn't exist on social media, and I'm just not comfortable letting people into my world like that. The internet should have made it easier for people like me to retain anonymity, but social media seems to counteract that trend. You can't just make music, you need to make "content" and then avail yourself to everyone. I made a video not long ago announcing my patreon, and you can clearly see just how painfully uncomfortable I am just sitting alone in my room talking into a webcam. The internet has not been an inclusive platform for me, it actively wants more from me than I know how to give, and that trend doesn't seem to be changing.
That all depends on what you're trying to achieve. If it's just a hobby, then you really shouldn't feel pressured into doing something you don't want to do and just do what you love when you want and share it with people, but if you're actively trying to make a career out of it, then yeah, you'll get that pressure, but no more than doing any other job to survive. If it's your job, then it's gonna feel like a job, even if it's something you love, there's gonna be days where you're not feeling up to it, and you'll need to put the time in, just like a 'normal' job, you'll be putting in 35plus hours a week if you want to be able to live off of it, probably more as it's more like starting/running a business where you need to put all of yourself into it to make it successful, and it will feel like work sometimes.
@@kyleh1127 I don't really have a problem with any of this, but I would still like to push back on the notion that social media is providing a platform for people with social anxiety to be heard, because that claim comes with some pretty big caveats. Particularly, making socially anxious and introverted people engage in an economy that revolves around attention. I do hope the problem is self-evident because I don't really know how explain it any clearer than I already have.
So, I'm old but I totally appreciate this new generation of online guitarists. The internet has made me realize that no matter your age, location, or genre, everyone is better than I am lol. Dont let the haters get you down, nobody elected those assholes as the standard bearers. They should probably shut up and practice
Got to say I'm 47. And growing up the traditional path was the way. But I also got to say that it's because of the content creators like the ones mentioned here then I've learned so much about my instrument and have been impressed by their prowess. I'm not in a band I don't make content but I still love music particularly heavy music and so the creators are feeding my love. Thank you for what you do, it'll be interesting to see how musicians will continue to evolve and how they connect to their audience
Live musicians don’t get second chances or extra takes or edits. They have to impress you with the energy and skill that they have in that moment. I’m not against social media, but certainly I would rather be at an actual show seeing a person in front of me performing instead of watching it on my phone . I have much love for bedroom musicians, but I will never put them on the same level as live musicians because I don’t live online. My life is out in the real world.
This video is spot on, as someone who really struggles playing live. Being able to produce music from my room has been game changing and I likely wouldn't be making music otherwise.
Anthrax had to cancel their European tour because economical issues. Jokes apart, they're not small local band. It just shows how the current situation looks. Other example: Metallica with they double shows in each city. From financial side it's good idea, you don't have move the gear, prepare stage etc. and you are able to play 2 concerts instead 1 (besides so expensive special tickets).
->Hates "influencers" ->Uses Facebook It's also interesting to me that for people that much rooted in tradition, their view of guitar music seems strictly limited to rock and metal, without any knowledge of the thing existed before (and after) that is blues and jazz (and many other stuff).
It's the annoying hyperactive clickbaityness, the fact that music has been turned from art to in your face "internet personalities" who appear to be just in it for the clicks and attention, and because internet guitarists are far from perfect lmao... 😅 It irks me that 90% of the guitarists giving lessons on RUclips have awful vibrato and cannot play with feel to save their lives. You, for example, are a pretty good guitarist (in my humble opinion)... but I come to your channel for the comedy, not the guitar playing or lessons lol. 😬 I go to watch old videos of Marty Friedman and Paul Gilbert when I want to work on technique. I get that the guitar community is especially toxic and gatekeepy, but speaking transparently the real reasons people hate internet guitarists is because they are SO ANNOYING and have an overinflated sense of ego about their completely mediocre playing. At least that's how it comes across and maybe we all need to work on that. And don't get me started on being a "female shredder" 🙄
As long as there has been people, there has been old men yelling at the clouds/telling people to get off their lawns. Its just the way of things. Its also a sign that you're probably doing something right/innovative/new/cool. In 20 years you'll be pissed off that you have to either create or watch VR guitar content when clearly early 20th century youtube was the best medium. At some point the expense of travel due to energy scarcity or climate change is going to make superstar tours more expensive than regular people can afford so it will all mutate again into some new experience for artists and their audience. In my lifetime rock musicians have gone from shushing the audience so they could play to LET ME HEAR YOU SCREAM. We went from tv show appearances to video channels back to TV show appearances and youtube/video on demand. Imagine what other changes are coming
Just think about this : if not for youtube and JTC guitar channel, Guthrie Govan would be an obscure guitar player/teacher. Now he is one of the most famous rock/fusion guitarist and played with Steven Wilson, Hans Zimmer, and have his own band with multiple albums with the Aristocrats and touring worldwide. So online presence can help your offline presence in music as well. And the most amazing thing is, Guthrie doesn't even has his own youtube channel lol, he got famous from other channel (mainly JTC) posting his improvisations over backing track.
Brad, you and Stevie T have been a big reason I started playing guitar again. You two showed me you don't have to be super serious to be freaking amazing players. Just because you guys make youtube videos doesn't take away the talent and dedication you guys have. Just remember even with all the "hate", you've inspired so many of us. Thank you for what you do.
I feel like both sides of this argument (not yours, BH) rely on a robust ignorance of "bedroom musicians" and their popularity throughout history. As I understand it, Beethoven would have been a RUclips pianist today - he didn't like to play anything he'd written down, and never anything twice, and he definitely didn't tour. It was only under duress that he played live at all. But he was a prolific musician. It seems to me he would have felt right at home streaming from his bedroom. I think about this a lot. People like Elliott Smith were most certainly bedroom musicians, even as far back as the 90s. It hurt his career for many of the things you mention, but really for things you don't: If a single person writes a bunch of music with simultaneous instruments playing, he has to hire people to play those parts; If he's the kind of person (or she, whatever - women tend to be too agreeable to succeed in music anyway - see: Ke$ha) who can't get along with two or three other people in a room long enough to compromise with what they want to do creatively so the "band" can create music, he's probably not the kind of person it's super fun to be hired to play on tour for, either. It's like the question of why bassists bitch about having to "play what's appropriate to the song" but don't form their own bands and write their own songs that other people have to play appropriately to. It's weird to me. People make exceptions to that, but the exceptions prove the rule. You couldn't have Devin Townsend, the nicest guy in metal, if you didn't have Dave Mustaine to compare him to. (I don't actually know anything about Mr Townsend. I'm just saying) I don't know that I had even this much to actually say. I suppose my thesis is that the so-called Traditionalists didn't like independent guitarists in their youth, either. This isn't a new phenomenon. I think, really, it's just another aspect of us not appreciating how deep into antiquity megacorporations and cults of personality have shaped our habits. It's like how you never quite grow out of that first behavior that consistently got you attention as a child: Liking a particular style of corporatized music is how people first learned to socialize with music and engage with the wider culture. So it's not so much that they don't like things being different... they just don't like other things.
You wouldn't believe how many normal people are playing guitar and covers alone in their room without being in a band or posting it on youtube. What's wrong with sharing it?
I love youtubers mostly for the memes and such. But you seem to be equating the internet overall with being an influencer like yourself. There are thousands of one man bands that do great on the internet that do not need to be influencers. Touring/labels are very expensive, so using the internet as your label is the modern way. But calling yourself, a meemer, who probably makes the majority of their money not from original music (i have no idea if you even make music), but with covers and RUclips content. I don’t hate on youtubers for making money. But I definitely wouldn’t consider you a modern artist. I feel like there’s a difference for musicians who use youtube/twitch make their band bigger (Matt Heafy) and influencers who use YT to make their music bigger. Usually this music is nowhere near as good as the other million bedroom artists I know NOBODY rips on Darkthrone for not touring. They dont hate on them at all. Ppl may be hating on your because you’re pretending like you are putting out music as good as darkthrones. I have no idea.
RUclips guitarists (like you, or Nick, for example) are the driving reason I got back into playing guitar after many years. Thanks to them, I rediscovered one of my favorite hobbies and avenues for expression. And every time I see a new video drop, it inspires me to play more :)
@dragonballfanscantread2383 It really isn't. Everyone probably has one person that inspired them to play an instrument, and having someone that's better than you is really motivating to get you to practice and try to ''compete'' with them.
@dragonballfanscantread2383 Why? When 8 year old Bob wants to be able to play Highway To Hell because he loves AC/DC and Angus Young is the coolest person he has ever seen, who are you to tell him that he should not touch a guitar because he isn't trying to communicate an original idea with his definitely-already-developed musical composition skills? Also, OP never said they treated Bradley and Nik's videos as competitors to defeat, they said seeing a new video inspired them to play more.
Many people seem to want to put down the guitar after hearing Ichika Ino playing. If it hadn't been for him, maybe I wouldn't take the guitar seriously. It is a challenge. Thank to the amazing internet guitarists, I hope It becomes some kind of wave that reveal more and more talents.
"how many great guitarists have we missed from the '70s and '80s because they didn't have the internet". What an exceptionally profound statement that is. Really makes you think. Also, so glad that you showed footage of Max Ostro during that quote. Dude looks very odd, but he is quite possibly the next Guthrie Govan. If you've never seen him play before, do yourself a favor and check him out. You will absolutely be blown away
I was born in 75 and max creates the most addictive guitar solos I’ve ever heard. As a guitarist for about 35 years, I’ve heard a lot of solos. With the technical proficiency of a Govan, colorful ness of an EVH and Vito Bratta, and with the magical touch of a Jeff Beck, he is an unstoppable force.
Can't stand Facebook comments, they're all unironically boomers, with a negative outlook. It's the same with all comments on the platform, I don't think it's unique to musicians.
It's weird that rock music, which started out with the idea that "Rock is rebellion" or "Sticking it to the man", doesn't want to change. Guys like Sebastian Bach, who haven't done anything significant in 20+ years, sh*t all over the idea of change. And it's dumb. Thing is, if you hire a social media management service, you can even grow your online presence for way less than one would think.
I feel like part of it is backlash. I constantly see comments like "thedooo/ichika/marcin etc is the best guitarist in the world and crap all over touring guitarists" and that incentivises other people to talk bad about those guys.
It takes so little effort to leave negative comments and the tendency towards hyperbolic "this is the worst/best thing ever" that the internet engenders doesn't help. I don't tend to leave negative comments or reviews on anything, and that there are people who seemingly get actually angry about stuff like RUclips baffles me. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Simple
Well the only guitarists online I hate are the ones that think they’re better than everyone and telling people that we’re playing guitar wrong if you do it a certain way. You’re funny and incorporate cool guitar playing with humor, so I’m not talking about you. But the people that I described above are the kinds I do not enjoy watching. You and Shred are my favorite. Edit: I also love Carl Brown he is a very great teacher and has taught me many songs. He’s very humble and enjoys teaching us and never asks for anything except to sign up for lessons which is like a common sense thing to do lol.
It's not about internet guitarists being hated, it's that the guitar community is too full of haters, you can see it on comments on guitar magazines social media for example. Every guitarist that is not EVH, SRV and a couple more will get a storm of hate on every article. Don't take it personally and keep doing your thing 🙂
I'll never know how someone could dislike Nik Noc. He's just an all round nice guy. Even when he doesn't necessarily like something he's still nice about it
The internet musicians especially guitarists are blessings in disguise,i couldn't have found many amazing bands and their music if there weren't you. So thanks for the beautiful music and new techniques which helps to learn everyday ❤️.
Man, you and your channel are one of the main reasons I got into guitar in a more serious manner when I first met you almost 3 years ago. Seeing you and the discord homies always shredding it up served as an inspiration as well as a challenge for me, and it would have been possible without you, RUclips, or the online guitar community overall. Thank you for making me take music seriously, and for being a driving factor behind my improvement.
My only personal problem with modern internet guitarists is their music doesn't stay with me for long, it's not catchy enough, and most of the time it's more about technical "flexing" rather than sort-of getting you through the musical journey, and surprising the listeners along it. I know, the hardest part is composing music from the listener's POV, not a shredder. Still, with all the tools at hand and skills sharped so to speak, i can name only you (surprise-surprise) and Sam Bell that I've listened to and liked a lot. Can't say the same about other more popular RUclips/Instagram guitarists/songwriters.
You made a lot of good points and are obviously very passionate about what you just said - and I love watching online videos about guitar etc. It’s one of the biggest positives about technology in the last 15 years or so. Its great to have soma great community here and it’s very informative and interesting. It’s actually changed things. But you can’t compare a live gig to watching stuff online. Literally, you can’t. A live gig is something experienced with others and a memory created, it’s a proper night out - an online video is usually followed up by watching another or having a cuppa etc. The views or how many people watching aren’t that valid either imo as the content is usually forgotten quite quickly (sorry) compared to a proper live gig or concert.
This person is correct. Will youtube covers with a different spin have the longevity of the original classic song? Of course not. There is an abundance of great playing on the web but I would say the criticism from the old guard is not the fact that people use the internet to perform. Rather It is the that the vast majority of internet musicians do not write songs, and when they do it exposes them as not very good at it. Which is a shame. It appears that The time it takes to make good music is not compatible with the need to make output on youtube almost every day. The two forms of content are vastly different in quality and emotional impact.
Btw I am happy to be corrected if someone wants to direct me to some great original compositions on line. I am sorry i have not solved anyone’s problem with my rant. For as long as music is free I fear we will all struggle to find good new music (or maybe i am just getting on. Lol)
@@violacomedy I agree that most internet -guitarists focus more on covers and memes than on orinals. However, here are some originals by RUclips-guitarists that I like: Imposter - Kmac2021 Moonshine - Pete Cottrell Rain - Rob Scallon Also, Jared Dines' band SION with Howard Jones was very successful (no.1 in metal Album charts).
I've seen hundreds of live shows over the years, 80's/90's/2000's, and it was awesome. Now that I'm older I can sit home and have the musicians come to my house via the internet, and it is also awesome.🎸
That's just the internet in general unfortunately. Never change, Bradley. I've picked the guitar back up after 12 years thanks to you and your vids. You lot do amazing work.
I think the problem stems from the fact that most of the people giving hate (like you said) don’t really know who you are/interact with the RUclips scene all that often. So, when one of your videos gets featured on the aforementioned rock sites or forums, with a title like “Metallica Lux Aeterna but the Solo Doesn’t Suck” which, let’s be honest, can easily be read as a hate filled title, you’re going to get hate in return. Most people who know you and your channel probably know that you don’t hate Metallica or Kirk’s soloing, but for those who may not be familiar, when they see a video like that, you’re just going to come off as “I’m some guitarist that thinks he can play better than Kirk Hammett.” I’m all for constructive videos about our favorite bands or players, and everyone should be free to share their feelings on a piece of media, but the more emotion invoking, seemingly confrontational titles people put on their videos to try and get views, the more you’re going to get mixed feedback. “My Take on the Solo for Metallica’s Lux Aeterna.” Same exact video, same exact solo, but I bet with a lot less hate. Sure, maybe it won’t get as many views, but if you’re going to put out those kind of “call them out” clickbaity titles, you’re going to get hate. I’m not saying that hate warranted or deserved, but I’m saying I get why people might be quick to speak up in defense of their favorite bands.
Thanks for this insight, it connected a lot of fragmented information I've heard and overheard through the past few years about the machinations of the modern music industry. Personally, I always saw "online guitarists", like you yourself could be described as, as a form of entertainment separate from bands (some, like Dean Lamb and Ola Englund, will tie in their bands tangentially though). I did however occasionally ask my screen why you guys aren't in bands because it always seemed to be the point of all of this. A band playing live is much greater than just the sum of its parts after all, something that holds true even more within metal due to the virtuosity aspect. This gave me a bit of a different outlook which, in hindsight, appears completely obvious. Cheers!
Well, you weren't willing to discuss "envy" as one of the possible reasons, so I'm gonna do it for you. :) In my opinion, yes - a huge part in hating on "bedroom musicians" and guitarists (like yourself) comes from the fact that not a lot of people can reach the level of proficiency on their instrument as you (or Steve T, for example; not gonna list and namedrop here any further:)) have achieved. I realize that's not the ultimate goal of making music, but god damn, when it comes to pure skill, most of you guys can absolutely RUN CIRCLES around vast majority of famous rock guitarists of the yesteryear! I mean, that has to be said. And on some level, rock purists (oldheads in particular) don't like that, as they feel threatened by that, because they feel strong connection to their guitar heroes of the past. Also, as you said, their measure of success is stuck in the past (and not even a recent one) while the tendency to feel superior to next generation is completely normal and expected. Problem is, that superiority is not real. It's rather a way to cope with the fact that the world does not end with them and their generation and that things move ahead and evolve. And this reality is scary to many folks. That was my 2c. Cheers! 🍺
Great video as always Bradley! I saw that video from your Lux solo also passing by on facebook and was hyped to see you appear on a more mainstream channel, but then I was looking at the comments and just like you said, they were full of crap and was yet again really disappointed in the metal/rock or in general internet community where everyone is so close minded and see only things a certain way because some other person said it so… in the end just keep doing what you enjoy the most and dont let anything stop you! As long as you are happy and proud with yourself and how everything turns out, thats already more than most of those people will ever be! Youre amazing Bradley keep it up 😁
I finally gave in to it, because I have no other choice. I'll never tour even if someone asks me to, I can't afford it. I enjoy making content for YT, and even though the algorithm isn't too interested in the creations of unknown middle-aged men post-2019 or so...I'll keep doing it because it keeps me out of trouble. However, given the choice between spending a Friday night watching guitarists play in their houses on my computer and going out to see or play a gig and socialize with humans, well, that's no contest. No offense to YT guitar/bass/drums creators, because many are obviously great, but I'm just not entertained by videos of folks playing covers in their bedrooms to backing tracks. I've tried to enjoy it due to recent events forcing us into our homes, and I just can't get behind it no matter how hard I try to adapt to the times.
I got frustrated with guitar years ago. I hit a wall and felt I was never going to "get it" and unlock the secrets of lead playing outside of noodling around. The internet has definitely re-lit a spark thanks to Bradley, Ola, Music is Win, Uncle Ben and several other RUclipsrs. I realize now you can never really "master" the instrument and that it's always been about the journey rather than the destination. In addition to dedicated RUclipsrs, it's been super helpful AND hopeful seeing guitar heroes of mine like Zakk Wilde, Dave Mustaine, Scott Ian and others embrace the internet and show techniques or even just play through songs that I love. I've definitely lost a lot from not playing all these years but I'm confident I can regain my old skills with practice and hopefully learn even more. I never realized people struggle with double picking, tapping and pinch harmonics as those all seemed to come naturally to me within the first year of playing. Without the internet and RUclips guitarists, I might have never picked my guitar back up. So thank you Bradley for all the inspiration and laughs.
Great video, Bradley! I really enjoy these opinion pieces you put out from time to time. If you had a podcast I would totally support + listen. You 1. love lots of music 2. play guitar well 3. understand internet culture, memes, the music biz 4. articulate your thoughts in a balanced yet deep way. Keep it up!
I don't hate Internet guitarists. There were times when content like yours and Stevie T.'s videos was what I was watching on RUclips all the time. However - I think most of RUclips guitarists' content gradually devolved to the point where I just don't find it enjoyable anymore. Because most of you seem to not care about music, you only care about feeding the algorithms and that's it. It's all cringe comedy, lessons, selling courses, reviewing gear and lifestyle vlogging. And occasionally you're just showing off your dexterity, but that stops being interesting really quickly - especially when you never upload live videos of yourself doing it. It's always carefully produced, to the point where I'm not even sure you can actually perform like this. (Yeah, seeing Music Is Win's absolutely disgraceful live performance helped me realize this - he may look like a great shredder, but when he cannot rely on studio magic, he is not that great, to say the least.) Right now I can think of only one RUclips guitarist who regularly uploads complete songs - covers and originals. Justin Johnson. But that's it. All others are simply influencers with guitars. I'd rather watch actual music videos. Also - you don't need to go on a worldwide tour, but playing in your local club is hardly a great expense. Especially since you're not Judas Priest - you won't need a tour bus.
Think of the people who don't hate you. You have dedicated your time to entertain and bring a brief smile to those having a bad day. All those thumbs up mean something. Think of the kids you may have inspired to pick up a guitar, giving it ago....and some giving up to learn to play tambourine.
Now see here young Bradley [gaaak cough cough] Sorry a Werthers went down the wrong way. Anyway, you seem to be assuming an awful lot. Not all those people are people. Bots generating dubious engagement is not exactly new. And of the people who are people, you’re assuming that they are crotchety old blokes. Speaking as a crotchety old bloke that’s probably true. But it’s a reaction to the mise en scene of social media. I mean imagine picking up a flyer for a covers band and thinking “Might be interesting” and suddenly every time you open the door of the lounge to go to the kitchen, there they are. Playing Run to the Hills on Kazoo, spoons and ukulele. Which is what the algorithms do when planting stuff in feeds. It’s about realising that all this [gestures pointlessly at social media] isn’t real. Which means not taking it seriously as consumers. I don’t go around posting comments about Porphyria and their Tending Goats tune (or whatever, floppy hair, tattoos, earnest i’m hazy on the details) Best thing since sliced bread if your musical experience has avoided the same influences that they, ironically, actually have. If not then, um, well not. Or saying Nightwish is entry level prog. The prog Woolworths would sell. The band don’t care. Fans do. It’s like you;re caling their whole self into question. So I don’t say, I scroll past. Not worth pointing out that as far as “symphonic” goes, Ernie the fastest milkman in the west technically qualifies. What was my point ? I think if the audience at venues were miked up, social media comments would seem like a spa day. On the dark side it’s always the negative stuff which produces engagement. Which is sad. And why notoroious Space Karen Elon Musk bought tw@er looking for the one thing a billionaire can never have. Enough. Pesky kids, with your hair and your trousers and your pronouns...........
I stopped gigging late 2019 after leaving my last band and to be honest, I really haven't missed it. The playing part, of course is fun, but I always found gigs super stressful. I have social anxiety, so being around so many people all at the same time was really draining. Since then, I've been trying to build my guitar channel and found it so much more rewarding and convenient. Nothing will ever substitute playing to a live crowd, but I'm perfectly happy to be doing what I'm doing now. It's awesome to be able to still make a career out of my playing without the need to tour.
I feel kinda the same, dude, i consider myself a very sociable person and love going to gigs and drinking beers with the boys and girls that always come to the local shows, but i try to play as few shows as possible because theres always the stress of having sound issues, playing unrehearsed, getting robbed in the backstage, etc and that stress kill the passion of playing live. Few shows a year in a small club its what i look for nowadays
I was shocked when I saw some facebook page posting your idea for Lux Eterna solo and people in the comment section were furious - "how dare this pesky youtuber try to CORRECT Metallica!!!!11111one"
What absurdity is this "ever-increasing divide between modern music fans and traditional music fans" ? I seriously doubt that's even a thing.I'm 45,been listening to rock and metal for over 30 years and nothing makes me happier than seeing the scene staying alive and thriving.It's comforting to see the new generation embracing the classic bands while being brave enough to explore new directions and experiment.And I do believe that live shows play an integral part in the smooth and seamless continuation of the genre's history. No "online concert" could ever possibly substitute the experience of the real thing.And that goes both ways. And Bradley,relax.Nobody hates you.
Most traditional musicians that actually cares about music are transitioning to the internet because its a bigger venue to show your music and to learn and teach, just look at Rick Beato, he's an acomplished producer but his internet courses and videos are what pays his bills. Also remember, Modern Black Metal was born on someones bedroom.
While I agree with most of your points I couldn't possibly disagree more with the ''tradition bad'' argument, rock is and always will be what these great bands from the past made it out to be and new garbage like Polyphia and such should never be considered rock. Hail traditions and the old may they never change.
I think that most negative comments come from guitarists, 99.99% of the time. I love the music community, but guitars are the most profitable and marketable instrument in the world. Therefore, it has a much larger reach to everyone. Then said guitarists, of varying experience and background, safe guard what they deem as a „successful“ guitarist, but do not know what it‘s like to be a successful musician. And us guitarists who only know guitar playing, and not music, are more of the people who will shout „play with feel“, or „sweep picking is boring“ kind of jargon
It's honestly so easy to hate on things. Unfortunately, like you said. Metal and Rock are steeped in tradition and have the most toxic and gatekeeper communites. I know that's not always the case. I admit I used to be that way, but I can't, or could never do what any of these guys do, and I learned to respect and appreciate it because what you guys do does take time and energy.
9:23 I don't know such artist, only Buckethead is epic and skilled enough to record tons of album per year, but many Buckethead fans thinks he's a robot hahah. Really there's a lot of master level guitarists, but only Buckethead recorded over 400 albums and he's still recording. In Buckethead We trust! \m/ \m/
You can never be perfect, so always be willing to listen to constructive, valuable criticism. However, shitting on someone via a holier-than-thou basis and making fun of their circumstances is one of the most childish things you can do. Like Bradlington Hallsworth has mentioned before, the music industry was way better back in the day and the surging boost in the music industry in the 50s all the way through the 2000s is sadly long gone. There can’t be another Metallica, another Megadeth, Beatles, Led Zepplin, Van Halen, etc. not for the near future, anyways. As the wise Jordan Peterson said, “there’s nothing uglier than an adult infant.”
I don't think that tradition plays into this. You look at internet classical guitarists (who are way more anally rigid with tradition, BTW), and their comments section are always overwhelmingly positive. Jazz, Hip Hop, Country, Blues, and Pop/Indie usually follow this trend too. Not so much for rock and metal, though. After three decades being a more "traditional" rock and metal musician, I've noticed that a good number of fans of this genre tend to have a major disdain for people who attain any degree of success and popularity that propels them from small niche communities into a larger market. And these people are extremely vocal about their opposition to it; driven by some incessant need to criticize, condemn, and ridicule whatever is a threat to their own fragile egos. So, next time you see any sort of vitriolic commentary from the peanut gallery, just understand that it's usually someone with a small dick who wants to tell the world about it, and you're actually pretty good at whatever you are doing. Keep it up, my man! It makes these losers cry.
Finn McKenty is the reason I started taking music seriously again. RUclips is the counterculture to the Taylor Swifts and Kanye Wests of the world. Anthony Vincent said it best: "Fuck you. I'm a rock star, too."
The thing is the double moral. Metal Music is described as the most tolerant and chill community. Music that is helping through rough times. IF you aren't a RUclipsr Guitarist/Instrumentalist and or female. If your are both. Good night! 😜 Then you are GETTING rough times by the trve elitists haha.
Personally, I have no problem with a dude choosing to make RUclips content over touring with a band. While there are RUclips personalities I dislike, it's not because they're not touring. The personalities I dislike come off as smug turds, but that's not confined to musicians. Hell, there are touring musicians I dislike because they come off as smug turds too. Yingwee, anyone?
Sigh. Another rant, another finger wag at "old people" . Interesting that your selection of negative comments don't appear to be coming from "traditionalists". The difference is, up to about 15 years ago, it wasn't possible to showcase your abilities in this way. As an old man and liver of hard rock and Metal, content creators have done 2 things extremely well - 1) shown me that anyone can be a musical God, surpassing many of the heroes I had as a youngster, and 2) entertained me enormously. I, and I'm sure many old folk, love you and a great many creators. Please don't lump is all together of falsely paint us as stuck in the mud old dinosaurs.
There are two types of musicians in the world. Musicians who are grateful and believe that music is above them. And musicians who are senseless and believe that music is beneath them. And I completely hate the latter, no matter the genre. But if we're talking about actual art. An audience is quite literally the greatest enemy. And like one of my favorite authors said, "True art is only corrupted by an audience; only stifled by a lapse of fond good faith." And another quote by another favorite author: "Popular opinion is merely a prostitute who sells herself to the highest bidder." I look at art as perhaps humanity's greatest tradition (and it's living proof that love for life and humanity can travel across space an time). As long as we're looking at it as an enterprise of gratitude and addition, rather than, a tiny and selfish winner-take-all scenario. Personally, I find it to be awesome that musicians can finally make some money. And it's great that it's an avenue to spread music throughout the world, like never before. And it's entertaining. But with fame comes a price. And many of these musicians lose sight of themselves and art, and become, much of the time, transformed into a caricature. While consequently, turning art into some greedy and senseless money grubbing scheme that denigrates the art form itself. Turning it into some farcical and absurd vehicle for bloated and senseless egos. But this has always happened. There are two types of artists in this world: artists who courageously expand art forms. And those who selfishly shrink it. And this has always been the case. And honestly, I quite enjoy ripping some bloated egos apart from time to time online. And though I do respect the studio musicianship (anyone can sound good in a studio) of a band like Polyphia (they're actually quite talented); someone please tell them that their taste in music and guitars f*****g sucks. But of course, they're lost in their own fame and have absolutely no idea what they're doing, or where they're going. So how does an artist want to be remembered? As an andy warhol or like the beatles; shameless products of theft, while inventing pop art? Or should you be like Mozart? Where ninety percent of the music he created was found after he had died a poor man, before copyright laws, because he loved music more than any of us? Or like Shakespeare, a man who was never even published in his lifetime, perhaps the most powerful poet, while basically inventing the modern human being? Or like Van Gogh, a transcendent genius who had only sold one painting in his lifetime? Those are the real questions. But the truth is that most people don't have a large enough heart to want to spread their love for art beyond their own lifetimes. Let alone, beyond a few weeks worth of videos. And that's really just fine. As long as great art never dies. And as long as, at least the important people believe, that art is about bringing humanity together; instead of being used as a selfish tool to prop up one fragile ego, for something as low and cheap as fame and money. There can be great nuance to these conversations. But most of the time, in my experience at least, the haters are tiny jealous helpless losers.
And splitting the profits with your other 3 or 4 band (mates)members. And Song writing credits. I rather keep my song writing credit to myself. The only thing I would need help with is producing. So a producer's credit?
I don't think they are, not really, certainly not by musicians of any spec. My kid, who is a balls out savage on guitar, thinks very highly of many RUclips guitar players. There are some he doesn't dig as much, of course. Everyone has tastes that differ somewhat, after all. But that being said, EVERYONE hates on someone, and guitarists and musicians are no different. My boy can't stand Kirk Hammet. I don't dig the arsewits in Five Finger Dork Prick, and the fact that Dave Grohl stopped playing drums as his full time job to pursue a career playing bouncy pop rock REALLY aggravates me on a fundamental level. Don't get me wrong, I think Dave is a great guy, he's just a better drummer than guitarist, and I don't want to hear a musician do the thing they are less good at in a professional setting. What MIGHT make it appear as if RUclips guitarists get more shit, is frustrated, shitty guitarists, in really shitty bands, or worse, dudes who've never played a note of music in their life but been scene kids for most of their sentient lives, getting shitty with dudes who have a platform, while they either choke and fail at their shitty pub gigs, fail to get said gigs, or sit in their mothers basement hating themselves for being too lazy to practice and get that recognition. Theres a lot of people out there dissatisfied with their own lives, seeking to make their bitchassness someone elses problem, and if those people happen to be in a crap band, or never had the bottle to perform live, and see someone else making a go of their life in music, it would be pretty easy for mean, damaged people like that to lash out and use the specific method a Tuber uses to get their music out there, as a tool to beat them over the head with. Its really not about the RUclipsrs, its about the fucknuggets doing the hating and the shitty reasons they have for hating in the first place. Of course, some people deserve all the shit they get, but not everyone is Machine Gun Kelly🤣
It just shows the ignorance from these Mainstream pundits…. I get so much enjoyment watching talented guitarist on RUclips in the comfort in my home rewriting Kirk Hammet’s shit solos.😆 👍🏻
Those Metallica fanboys really do hate the fact that Hammet gets outplayed by "youtube beard guitarist". People gonna people. I hope these kinds of comments don't get to you too much, focus on the positives, bro. You're doing great!
I'm not sure but I think that strong negativity might come from a place of pure passion. I dont know if the "unrelenting ignorance towards this form of entertainment" is really that or if it is more the dislike of things that have only entertainment value. Just to talk about myself. To me, music is much more than entertainment; while entertainment sometimes help letting me forget how shitty reality is most of the time, music is what let me survive all that shit. So while I can enjoy and appreciate pure entertainment from time to time, most of the time I just kill my time with it because I don't have the energy to do something productive with my time instead. Which is why I love seeing Bernth create new and original music but for the love of god can't understand why someone would spend their time watching Nik Nocturnal reactions. This said, of course there's place for both and hating on people that at least are doing something productive (instead of just passively watching like do) is completely asinine. The one thing I have to say is that I'm very traditional when it comes to my approach to music. And yes, if following the modern approach means that musicians don't create their own music for me to buy and listen to, I'd rather support those musicians that still do like the old guys. If you can combine both sides (Matt Heafy or Herman Li are good examples of that), that's awesome. But if you're just doing derivative stuff (which is what most "content creators" do and also the reason why I don't really like that term), you just don't do anything that is valuable enough for me to actually spend money on it.
Pro strat: write music, don't play it live, and also don't develop your social media presence. Just bask in the process and find fulfillment in the art itself. Assume that you'll become posthumously famous one day.
It’s like Newton’s fourth law that if you get big on the internet, you WILL get haters. You could post a video of you ending homelessness and curing cancer and you’d still have hate comments lmao.
I came of age, guitar wise, in Montana in the 1990s. There were clubs where people played rock and pop every night. I decided to start a blues band... We did very well! We toured a bit in the NW US and the band held together for a couple of years until I discovered jazz and the saxophone. Now there is no live music in the town where I grew up. I now live in Philadelphia and the music scene here is no better than it was in Montana in the 1990s. I don't know how live bands make it now. I was talking with a guitarist who grew up in Philadelphia and played in a a rock band for his full time job (!) in the 70s and 80s. He said that there were more clubs than bands in New Jersey and work was plentiful. Those times are dead and gone. I blame the demise of live music on record companies, people who listen to bad music, and the internet, but not on guitarists and other musicians who are able to eke out a living on the internet. That said, it is very different playing in a live situation vs making a perfect video and presenting it. Making a video is like making an album, you can have near ideal conditions and do takes until you get it right. Playing live, you get one shot and the conditions are rarely ideal and often terrible. Playing live music is tough. The bass player, always the bass player, will be late to the gig. The drummer will be a curmudgeon, regardless of age. Most of the band will be drunk by the second set. If you have a sound person, they will do the bare minimum for you at the maximum cost. The club owners will steal from you. They will tell you that they didn't do well that night, even if their bar is full of people who are very drunk and drinking. You will break a string in the middle of a song. Your amp will die. Your pedals won't work. You'll play to an empty house sometimes.
The problem with youtube guitarists is they usually start off with good content but after a while run out of ideas but keep making videos so the algorithm doesnt forget them, and the videos become dumber and dumber. For example two well known youtube guitarists doing things like playing guitar in an empty nuclear reactor, or filling acoustic guitars with water. Not to mention the clickbaity titles and thumbnails are annoying. Things tend to go from bad to worse when they start relying on their videos for income. At that point they just have to keep churning out less and less interesting videos, eventually just feeling insulting to their audience's intelligence.
i dunno man....they don't seem more "hated" than any other "pro" guitar player. look at views. people are clearly enjoying them. if you're going by comment sections, then every guitar player on every album ever recorded is hated.
If you are a touring musician on a label, you're a slave to that label. I don't go to shows once I found that out. Just like I don't shop at Walmart because I don't work there. Simple huh. Don't feed a beast because you're not the only one that suffers.
I think there's a bit of dancing around reality here. It's not that RUclips guitarists are hated. It's just that their content is far more disposable. The unfortunate rub for RUclips content creators is that your work typically has a lifespan of interest of one view per person, then interest in that piece of content expires. At best, a fan might watch a video a 10 times before their interest expires, and then the video is forgotten. This is true even for Mr Beast. But if you're in a band and releasing music, each favoured song will potentially be listened to hundreds or thousands of times, and potentially over the course of an entire lifetime. And then on the back of this, you've built interest to go see shows with other fans if the band comes to town, build bonds with a shared common interest, buy merch, try learn their songs, cover their songs in your own band, etc, etc.
I'll tell a harsh truth for you: your video on Kirk Hammett solo is the another reason of this video is about. I'm sorry (I actually like your solo btw even if it doesn't fit). You should use a better title on that video. That video has one of the most negative comments from your RUclips videos.
Or in the case of Stevie T is the part where he constantly punches down and makes fun of disabled people... while promoting porn to kids. Other than that, this guy is a good guitarist.
Because guitarists are their own worst enemies :P When they can't play a thing they think the other player is superior, when they learn it the other guitarist is trash. Wish they could live in the real world where guitarists are just different people and a hierarchy doesn't need to exist in the world of art :P People especially hate popular guitarists (also RUclipsrs) because most of the time, being charistmatic or entertaining is also a part of it.
Performing nights and weekend gigs is not something I'd ever want to do again. If I went back to performing and had to choose one over the other, I'd choose to be a RUclipsr over being in a band again, hands down. Sorry, boomers.
i mean is pretty easy to know why viewers doesn't really like players like you , you all act like you have the absolute truth and that you can do better music than guitar players that has been in the bussiness selling millions and millions ofs albums when people put their ego in the table like that you just get dissaproval from most of the viewers when all it takes is a different way to show perspectives of the subjets that you're talking about , thats why most of musicians channel doesnt grow u as they should or get the viewers unless their video randomly blows up because the algorythm
The ironic thing is the people who criticize internet musicians don't even play guitar (or whatever instrument it may be) because if they did, they'd actually respect internet musicians abilities as well as their choice to make content since trying to make it as a band in the modern scene is basically impossible.
If not for internet musicians I literally wouldn't have rediscovered my passion for playing guitar. Idk about any of you, but that, for me, is enough reason to appreciate the existence of online musicians. I've also progressed as a player way more BECAUSE of internet musicians and lessons than I ever would have had I done it all by myself.
Same 💪🏻
Absolutely. I've been playing for going on 40 years but I kind of gave up on it about 20 years ago because all I want to do is record and everyone I know is stuck in the live only rut. I discovered Andy James and Angel Vivaldi about 10 years ago and at first they made me want to burn all of my shit. 🤣 Eventually I got the spark back and now I'm in a band that wants to do some live stuff, which is better than drugs, but they are most interested in recording now that it's become so easy to do. Our drummer is fucking amazing with a computer. I haven't been this excited about music in a very long time.
SAME man!
Same boat here 🙋🏻♂️ 1:05 after a 15 hiatus totally rediscovered the love. Even have a RUclips channel now lol
I’ve had the exact same experience. Hadn’t played for many years. Play every day now.
Aced it my dude!
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A Nik in his natural habitat
It’s really funny how rock started as a rebellious music genre and ended up being one of the most closed minded genres out there
Also remember that older generation hated rock music (like they hated Elvis Presley) & even they called it "The Devil's Music".
Also Jazz musicians & jazz community hated it too lol & Jazz was once dominant the US before rock came. I think Rock is becoming the new Jazz unfortunately.
@@gx1tar1er it’ll stop eventually and I think rock will go back to its roots similar to how it did in the 90s
@@gx1tar1er jazz is the real art music. Rock gets repetitive and boring. For me it was just a phase. Now I listen mostly classical and jazz
Because the boomer rock stars sold out and became Bilderbergers. Today's kids are wimps who cry if someone tweets at them. You need to be meaner.
@@thejoker-go3fhDream Theater and Opeth and other Prog Metal are the cure to this ailment.
I love the earnestness of this video. Musicians should definitely do what they want to do. Play at home, play on stage. If theater has taught me anything, it’s that the world is your stage. Your audience will come.
Also they may not have considered that RUclips musicians do this because they don't care to be on a big physical stage for whatever personal reason. That'd be like shaming a comedy youtuber for not hitting the venue circuit, which yes, some end up doing but it is far from mandatory, with the internet being what it is.
@@viscountrainbows2857
You're obviously not talking about stand-up comedy, right?
Or are you?
It's not the internet guitarists are hated, it's that anyone who's willing to put themselves out there with moderate confidence is going to get hate. Haters can't stand people being happy or good at stuff. That's the nature of hate.
@ghost mall I'd say that's no different from any given live scene.
Internet culture is hated because it's cringe and pointless. No subculture is immune.
I have a lot of theories on this topic. We should chat sometime.
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No you don’t Jared. You’re making me angry.
go away
Ha!
As someone who has toured their entire adult life, his comments about touring being "spending 95% of your time in a bus, van, or hotel room, completely bored out of your mind, probably hungover, and almost definitely with immense diarrhea from all the crappy food you've been surviving on" is absolutely... True.
But why aren’t you in a band bro? LOVE this new format
Anyone who makes a living, and doesn't have to work at anything but playing music (touring, RUclips, Spotify, whatever) has my respect.
As a guitarist born in the late 70's I always wished something like nowadays platform existed. Even if i still do not like the bait click system i really loved your approach in this video. Life's evolving and it's a good thing, big up to you and continue like that !
I still remember the one video of the most hated guitarist from Stevie T
He said he gets alot of hate but doesn't care because the things people told him like he makes them happy and feel less depressed . He said that he will gladly have all that hate just to hear the those things and honestly that's why I love him so much
Common Stevie W
Yeah, he seems really cringey at first, but it’s a persona and he seems like a cool dude. Great player too.
He makes me sad and more depressed. Why are his fans feelings more important than mine?
God I hate him
@@Ottophil Oh poor you. You watch Stevie T knowing that you get "SaD aNd DePReSsEd" but then come here and complain about it? If you don't wanna feel that way, just don't watch his content. Easy as that. Also what do you want to gain by having your negative feelings matter more than everyone else's? Do you hate Stevie so much that you want all of his fans to give up on him just because you don't like his content? Give me a break...
As someone who is pretty heavily introverted and has social anxiety, the whole social media thing is kind of confusing and exhausting. It's like the difference between performing for 20 bar patrons or performing at a family reunion, where the latter is a far more anxiety inducing experience. I can stand behind a microphone and sing at a room of strangers and still feel like I'm completely anonymous to them.
That same barrier doesn't exist on social media, and I'm just not comfortable letting people into my world like that. The internet should have made it easier for people like me to retain anonymity, but social media seems to counteract that trend. You can't just make music, you need to make "content" and then avail yourself to everyone.
I made a video not long ago announcing my patreon, and you can clearly see just how painfully uncomfortable I am just sitting alone in my room talking into a webcam. The internet has not been an inclusive platform for me, it actively wants more from me than I know how to give, and that trend doesn't seem to be changing.
That all depends on what you're trying to achieve. If it's just a hobby, then you really shouldn't feel pressured into doing something you don't want to do and just do what you love when you want and share it with people, but if you're actively trying to make a career out of it, then yeah, you'll get that pressure, but no more than doing any other job to survive. If it's your job, then it's gonna feel like a job, even if it's something you love, there's gonna be days where you're not feeling up to it, and you'll need to put the time in, just like a 'normal' job, you'll be putting in 35plus hours a week if you want to be able to live off of it, probably more as it's more like starting/running a business where you need to put all of yourself into it to make it successful, and it will feel like work sometimes.
@@kyleh1127 I don't really have a problem with any of this, but I would still like to push back on the notion that social media is providing a platform for people with social anxiety to be heard, because that claim comes with some pretty big caveats.
Particularly, making socially anxious and introverted people engage in an economy that revolves around attention. I do hope the problem is self-evident because I don't really know how explain it any clearer than I already have.
So, I'm old but I totally appreciate this new generation of online guitarists. The internet has made me realize that no matter your age, location, or genre, everyone is better than I am lol. Dont let the haters get you down, nobody elected those assholes as the standard bearers. They should probably shut up and practice
Yeah got me back into playing seriously. Everyone is still better but not by as wide a margin as before.
Got to say I'm 47. And growing up the traditional path was the way. But I also got to say that it's because of the content creators like the ones mentioned here then I've learned so much about my instrument and have been impressed by their prowess. I'm not in a band I don't make content but I still love music particularly heavy music and so the creators are feeding my love. Thank you for what you do, it'll be interesting to see how musicians will continue to evolve and how they connect to their audience
Live musicians don’t get second chances or extra takes or edits. They have to impress you with the energy and skill that they have in that moment.
I’m not against social media, but certainly I would rather be at an actual show seeing a person in front of me performing instead of watching it on my phone .
I have much love for bedroom musicians, but I will never put them on the same level as live musicians because I don’t live online. My life is out in the real world.
Internet guitarist are hated because they speak more than they play.
This video is spot on, as someone who really struggles playing live. Being able to produce music from my room has been game changing and I likely wouldn't be making music otherwise.
I would love to give an anwser to that, but I love most of the internet guitarists I follow. Never got the hate about them really.
Anthrax had to cancel their European tour because economical issues. Jokes apart, they're not small local band. It just shows how the current situation looks. Other example: Metallica with they double shows in each city. From financial side it's good idea, you don't have move the gear, prepare stage etc. and you are able to play 2 concerts instead 1 (besides so expensive special tickets).
->Hates "influencers"
->Uses Facebook
It's also interesting to me that for people that much rooted in tradition, their view of guitar music seems strictly limited to rock and metal, without any knowledge of the thing existed before (and after) that is blues and jazz (and many other stuff).
It's the annoying hyperactive clickbaityness, the fact that music has been turned from art to in your face "internet personalities" who appear to be just in it for the clicks and attention, and because internet guitarists are far from perfect lmao... 😅 It irks me that 90% of the guitarists giving lessons on RUclips have awful vibrato and cannot play with feel to save their lives.
You, for example, are a pretty good guitarist (in my humble opinion)... but I come to your channel for the comedy, not the guitar playing or lessons lol. 😬
I go to watch old videos of Marty Friedman and Paul Gilbert when I want to work on technique.
I get that the guitar community is especially toxic and gatekeepy, but speaking transparently the real reasons people hate internet guitarists is because they are SO ANNOYING and have an overinflated sense of ego about their completely mediocre playing. At least that's how it comes across and maybe we all need to work on that. And don't get me started on being a "female shredder" 🙄
you do sound a little bitter yourself tho... don't let other people's bad attitudes infect your happiness
As long as there has been people, there has been old men yelling at the clouds/telling people to get off their lawns. Its just the way of things. Its also a sign that you're probably doing something right/innovative/new/cool. In 20 years you'll be pissed off that you have to either create or watch VR guitar content when clearly early 20th century youtube was the best medium. At some point the expense of travel due to energy scarcity or climate change is going to make superstar tours more expensive than regular people can afford so it will all mutate again into some new experience for artists and their audience. In my lifetime rock musicians have gone from shushing the audience so they could play to LET ME HEAR YOU SCREAM. We went from tv show appearances to video channels back to TV show appearances and youtube/video on demand. Imagine what other changes are coming
Just think about this : if not for youtube and JTC guitar channel, Guthrie Govan would be an obscure guitar player/teacher. Now he is one of the most famous rock/fusion guitarist and played with Steven Wilson, Hans Zimmer, and have his own band with multiple albums with the Aristocrats and touring worldwide. So online presence can help your offline presence in music as well. And the most amazing thing is, Guthrie doesn't even has his own youtube channel lol, he got famous from other channel (mainly JTC) posting his improvisations over backing track.
Brad, you and Stevie T have been a big reason I started playing guitar again. You two showed me you don't have to be super serious to be freaking amazing players. Just because you guys make youtube videos doesn't take away the talent and dedication you guys have. Just remember even with all the "hate", you've inspired so many of us. Thank you for what you do.
Seriously, Stevie T? I can't stand that guy. He's a clown with a guitar.
@@RByrne That's his appeal to me 🤷♂
I feel like both sides of this argument (not yours, BH) rely on a robust ignorance of "bedroom musicians" and their popularity throughout history. As I understand it, Beethoven would have been a RUclips pianist today - he didn't like to play anything he'd written down, and never anything twice, and he definitely didn't tour. It was only under duress that he played live at all. But he was a prolific musician. It seems to me he would have felt right at home streaming from his bedroom.
I think about this a lot. People like Elliott Smith were most certainly bedroom musicians, even as far back as the 90s. It hurt his career for many of the things you mention, but really for things you don't: If a single person writes a bunch of music with simultaneous instruments playing, he has to hire people to play those parts; If he's the kind of person (or she, whatever - women tend to be too agreeable to succeed in music anyway - see: Ke$ha) who can't get along with two or three other people in a room long enough to compromise with what they want to do creatively so the "band" can create music, he's probably not the kind of person it's super fun to be hired to play on tour for, either.
It's like the question of why bassists bitch about having to "play what's appropriate to the song" but don't form their own bands and write their own songs that other people have to play appropriately to. It's weird to me.
People make exceptions to that, but the exceptions prove the rule. You couldn't have Devin Townsend, the nicest guy in metal, if you didn't have Dave Mustaine to compare him to. (I don't actually know anything about Mr Townsend. I'm just saying)
I don't know that I had even this much to actually say. I suppose my thesis is that the so-called Traditionalists didn't like independent guitarists in their youth, either. This isn't a new phenomenon. I think, really, it's just another aspect of us not appreciating how deep into antiquity megacorporations and cults of personality have shaped our habits. It's like how you never quite grow out of that first behavior that consistently got you attention as a child: Liking a particular style of corporatized music is how people first learned to socialize with music and engage with the wider culture. So it's not so much that they don't like things being different... they just don't like other things.
You wouldn't believe how many normal people are playing guitar and covers alone in their room without being in a band or posting it on youtube. What's wrong with sharing it?
I love youtubers mostly for the memes and such. But you seem to be equating the internet overall with being an influencer like yourself. There are thousands of one man bands that do great on the internet that do not need to be influencers. Touring/labels are very expensive, so using the internet as your label is the modern way. But calling yourself, a meemer, who probably makes the majority of their money not from original music (i have no idea if you even make music), but with covers and RUclips content. I don’t hate on youtubers for making money. But I definitely wouldn’t consider you a modern artist.
I feel like there’s a difference for musicians who use youtube/twitch make their band bigger (Matt Heafy) and influencers who use YT to make their music bigger. Usually this music is nowhere near as good as the other million bedroom artists I know
NOBODY rips on Darkthrone for not touring. They dont hate on them at all. Ppl may be hating on your because you’re pretending like you are putting out music as good as darkthrones. I have no idea.
RUclips guitarists (like you, or Nick, for example) are the driving reason I got back into playing guitar after many years. Thanks to them, I rediscovered one of my favorite hobbies and avenues for expression. And every time I see a new video drop, it inspires me to play more :)
@dragonballfanscantread2383 who asked
@dragonballfanscantread2383 It really isn't. Everyone probably has one person that inspired them to play an instrument, and having someone that's better than you is really motivating to get you to practice and try to ''compete'' with them.
@@AtomsLab that tard is insuferable
@dragonballfanscantread2383 Why? When 8 year old Bob wants to be able to play Highway To Hell because he loves AC/DC and Angus Young is the coolest person he has ever seen, who are you to tell him that he should not touch a guitar because he isn't trying to communicate an original idea with his definitely-already-developed musical composition skills?
Also, OP never said they treated Bradley and Nik's videos as competitors to defeat, they said seeing a new video inspired them to play more.
Many people seem to want to put down the guitar after hearing Ichika Ino playing.
If it hadn't been for him, maybe I wouldn't take the guitar seriously. It is a challenge.
Thank to the amazing internet guitarists, I hope It becomes some kind of wave that reveal more and more talents.
"how many great guitarists have we missed from the '70s and '80s because they didn't have the internet". What an exceptionally profound statement that is. Really makes you think.
Also, so glad that you showed footage of Max Ostro during that quote. Dude looks very odd, but he is quite possibly the next Guthrie Govan. If you've never seen him play before, do yourself a favor and check him out. You will absolutely be blown away
Guthrie Govan is vanilla sausage.
I was born in 75 and max creates the most addictive guitar solos I’ve ever heard. As a guitarist for about 35 years, I’ve heard a lot of solos. With the technical proficiency of a Govan, colorful ness of an EVH and Vito Bratta, and with the magical touch of a Jeff Beck, he is an unstoppable force.
Can't stand Facebook comments, they're all unironically boomers, with a negative outlook. It's the same with all comments on the platform, I don't think it's unique to musicians.
It's weird that rock music, which started out with the idea that "Rock is rebellion" or "Sticking it to the man", doesn't want to change.
Guys like Sebastian Bach, who haven't done anything significant in 20+ years, sh*t all over the idea of change. And it's dumb.
Thing is, if you hire a social media management service, you can even grow your online presence for way less than one would think.
Dragon Ball fans can't read , look at Mr. Hot Take over here. Someone frame his opinion.
I feel like part of it is backlash. I constantly see comments like "thedooo/ichika/marcin etc is the best guitarist in the world and crap all over touring guitarists" and that incentivises other people to talk bad about those guys.
It takes so little effort to leave negative comments and the tendency towards hyperbolic "this is the worst/best thing ever" that the internet engenders doesn't help. I don't tend to leave negative comments or reviews on anything, and that there are people who seemingly get actually angry about stuff like RUclips baffles me. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Simple
Well the only guitarists online I hate are the ones that think they’re better than everyone and telling people that we’re playing guitar wrong if you do it a certain way. You’re funny and incorporate cool guitar playing with humor, so I’m not talking about you. But the people that I described above are the kinds I do not enjoy watching. You and Shred are my favorite.
Edit: I also love Carl Brown he is a very great teacher and has taught me many songs. He’s very humble and enjoys teaching us and never asks for anything except to sign up for lessons which is like a common sense thing to do lol.
This was just an elaborate advertisement for bean shirts.
Bradley my boi, how the hell did you find the clip at 10:19? Absolutely hornswaggled after that
It's not about internet guitarists being hated, it's that the guitar community is too full of haters, you can see it on comments on guitar magazines social media for example. Every guitarist that is not EVH, SRV and a couple more will get a storm of hate on every article. Don't take it personally and keep doing your thing 🙂
5:26 Did you know Neil Buchanan from art attack has his own band? Worth checking out!
I'll never know how someone could dislike Nik Noc. He's just an all round nice guy. Even when he doesn't necessarily like something he's still nice about it
To be fair, if you go to any metal site, I dont think you will find a single article with more positive comments than negative ones
The internet musicians especially guitarists are blessings in disguise,i couldn't have found many amazing bands and their music if there weren't you. So thanks for the beautiful music and new techniques which helps to learn everyday ❤️.
someone hit a nerve lmao, man stop being jealous and preachy just because youre not famous.
Man, you and your channel are one of the main reasons I got into guitar in a more serious manner when I first met you almost 3 years ago. Seeing you and the discord homies always shredding it up served as an inspiration as well as a challenge for me, and it would have been possible without you, RUclips, or the online guitar community overall. Thank you for making me take music seriously, and for being a driving factor behind my improvement.
My only personal problem with modern internet guitarists is their music doesn't stay with me for long, it's not catchy enough, and most of the time it's more about technical "flexing" rather than sort-of getting you through the musical journey, and surprising the listeners along it. I know, the hardest part is composing music from the listener's POV, not a shredder. Still, with all the tools at hand and skills sharped so to speak, i can name only you (surprise-surprise) and Sam Bell that I've listened to and liked a lot. Can't say the same about other more popular RUclips/Instagram guitarists/songwriters.
You made a lot of good points and are obviously very passionate about what you just said - and I love watching online videos about guitar etc. It’s one of the biggest positives about technology in the last 15 years or so. Its great to have soma great community here and it’s very informative and interesting. It’s actually changed things. But you can’t compare a live gig to watching stuff online. Literally, you can’t. A live gig is something experienced with others and a memory created, it’s a proper night out - an online video is usually followed up by watching another or having a cuppa etc. The views or how many people watching aren’t that valid either imo as the content is usually forgotten quite quickly (sorry) compared to a proper live gig or concert.
This person is correct. Will youtube covers with a different spin have the longevity of the original classic song? Of course not. There is an abundance of great playing on the web but I would say the criticism from the old guard is not the fact that people use the internet to perform. Rather It is the that the vast majority of internet musicians do not write songs, and when they do it exposes them as not very good at it. Which is a shame. It appears that The time it takes to make good music is not compatible with the need to make output on youtube almost every day. The two forms of content are vastly different in quality and emotional impact.
Btw I am happy to be corrected if someone wants to direct me to some great original compositions on line. I am sorry i have not solved anyone’s problem with my rant. For as long as music is free I fear we will all struggle to find good new music (or maybe i am just getting on. Lol)
@@violacomedy I agree that most internet -guitarists focus more on covers and memes than on orinals. However, here are some originals by RUclips-guitarists that I like:
Imposter - Kmac2021
Moonshine - Pete Cottrell
Rain - Rob Scallon
Also, Jared Dines' band SION with Howard Jones was very successful (no.1 in metal Album charts).
@@thifry8829 many thanks buddy. Will check out
imo polyphia found the perfect balance between social media and tradition
I've seen hundreds of live shows over the years, 80's/90's/2000's, and it was awesome. Now that I'm older I can sit home and have the musicians come to my house via the internet, and it is also awesome.🎸
Cool thing about this video, it made a lot of people tell their own stories in the comments.
That's just the internet in general unfortunately. Never change, Bradley. I've picked the guitar back up after 12 years thanks to you and your vids. You lot do amazing work.
I think the problem stems from the fact that most of the people giving hate (like you said) don’t really know who you are/interact with the RUclips scene all that often. So, when one of your videos gets featured on the aforementioned rock sites or forums, with a title like “Metallica Lux Aeterna but the Solo Doesn’t Suck” which, let’s be honest, can easily be read as a hate filled title, you’re going to get hate in return. Most people who know you and your channel probably know that you don’t hate Metallica or Kirk’s soloing, but for those who may not be familiar, when they see a video like that, you’re just going to come off as “I’m some guitarist that thinks he can play better than Kirk Hammett.” I’m all for constructive videos about our favorite bands or players, and everyone should be free to share their feelings on a piece of media, but the more emotion invoking, seemingly confrontational titles people put on their videos to try and get views, the more you’re going to get mixed feedback. “My Take on the Solo for Metallica’s Lux Aeterna.” Same exact video, same exact solo, but I bet with a lot less hate. Sure, maybe it won’t get as many views, but if you’re going to put out those kind of “call them out” clickbaity titles, you’re going to get hate. I’m not saying that hate warranted or deserved, but I’m saying I get why people might be quick to speak up in defense of their favorite bands.
Thanks for this insight, it connected a lot of fragmented information I've heard and overheard through the past few years about the machinations of the modern music industry. Personally, I always saw "online guitarists", like you yourself could be described as, as a form of entertainment separate from bands (some, like Dean Lamb and Ola Englund, will tie in their bands tangentially though). I did however occasionally ask my screen why you guys aren't in bands because it always seemed to be the point of all of this. A band playing live is much greater than just the sum of its parts after all, something that holds true even more within metal due to the virtuosity aspect. This gave me a bit of a different outlook which, in hindsight, appears completely obvious. Cheers!
Well, you weren't willing to discuss "envy" as one of the possible reasons, so I'm gonna do it for you. :)
In my opinion, yes - a huge part in hating on "bedroom musicians" and guitarists (like yourself) comes from the fact that not a lot of people can reach the level of proficiency on their instrument as you (or Steve T, for example; not gonna list and namedrop here any further:)) have achieved. I realize that's not the ultimate goal of making music, but god damn, when it comes to pure skill, most of you guys can absolutely RUN CIRCLES around vast majority of famous rock guitarists of the yesteryear! I mean, that has to be said. And on some level, rock purists (oldheads in particular) don't like that, as they feel threatened by that, because they feel strong connection to their guitar heroes of the past.
Also, as you said, their measure of success is stuck in the past (and not even a recent one) while the tendency to feel superior to next generation is completely normal and expected. Problem is, that superiority is not real. It's rather a way to cope with the fact that the world does not end with them and their generation and that things move ahead and evolve. And this reality is scary to many folks.
That was my 2c. Cheers! 🍺
Great video as always Bradley! I saw that video from your Lux solo also passing by on facebook and was hyped to see you appear on a more mainstream channel, but then I was looking at the comments and just like you said, they were full of crap and was yet again really disappointed in the metal/rock or in general internet community where everyone is so close minded and see only things a certain way because some other person said it so… in the end just keep doing what you enjoy the most and dont let anything stop you! As long as you are happy and proud with yourself and how everything turns out, thats already more than most of those people will ever be! Youre amazing Bradley keep it up 😁
I finally gave in to it, because I have no other choice. I'll never tour even if someone asks me to, I can't afford it. I enjoy making content for YT, and even though the algorithm isn't too interested in the creations of unknown middle-aged men post-2019 or so...I'll keep doing it because it keeps me out of trouble. However, given the choice between spending a Friday night watching guitarists play in their houses on my computer and going out to see or play a gig and socialize with humans, well, that's no contest.
No offense to YT guitar/bass/drums creators, because many are obviously great, but I'm just not entertained by videos of folks playing covers in their bedrooms to backing tracks. I've tried to enjoy it due to recent events forcing us into our homes, and I just can't get behind it no matter how hard I try to adapt to the times.
I got frustrated with guitar years ago. I hit a wall and felt I was never going to "get it" and unlock the secrets of lead playing outside of noodling around. The internet has definitely re-lit a spark thanks to Bradley, Ola, Music is Win, Uncle Ben and several other RUclipsrs. I realize now you can never really "master" the instrument and that it's always been about the journey rather than the destination. In addition to dedicated RUclipsrs, it's been super helpful AND hopeful seeing guitar heroes of mine like Zakk Wilde, Dave Mustaine, Scott Ian and others embrace the internet and show techniques or even just play through songs that I love. I've definitely lost a lot from not playing all these years but I'm confident I can regain my old skills with practice and hopefully learn even more. I never realized people struggle with double picking, tapping and pinch harmonics as those all seemed to come naturally to me within the first year of playing. Without the internet and RUclips guitarists, I might have never picked my guitar back up. So thank you Bradley for all the inspiration and laughs.
They're annoying, saved you 10 minutes.
Great video, Bradley! I really enjoy these opinion pieces you put out from time to time. If you had a podcast I would totally support + listen. You 1. love lots of music 2. play guitar well 3. understand internet culture, memes, the music biz 4. articulate your thoughts in a balanced yet deep way. Keep it up!
I don't hate Internet guitarists. There were times when content like yours and Stevie T.'s videos was what I was watching on RUclips all the time.
However - I think most of RUclips guitarists' content gradually devolved to the point where I just don't find it enjoyable anymore. Because most of you seem to not care about music, you only care about feeding the algorithms and that's it. It's all cringe comedy, lessons, selling courses, reviewing gear and lifestyle vlogging. And occasionally you're just showing off your dexterity, but that stops being interesting really quickly - especially when you never upload live videos of yourself doing it. It's always carefully produced, to the point where I'm not even sure you can actually perform like this. (Yeah, seeing Music Is Win's absolutely disgraceful live performance helped me realize this - he may look like a great shredder, but when he cannot rely on studio magic, he is not that great, to say the least.) Right now I can think of only one RUclips guitarist who regularly uploads complete songs - covers and originals. Justin Johnson. But that's it. All others are simply influencers with guitars. I'd rather watch actual music videos.
Also - you don't need to go on a worldwide tour, but playing in your local club is hardly a great expense. Especially since you're not Judas Priest - you won't need a tour bus.
Think of the people who don't hate you. You have dedicated your time to entertain and bring a brief smile to those having a bad day. All those thumbs up mean something. Think of the kids you may have inspired to pick up a guitar, giving it ago....and some giving up to learn to play tambourine.
Now see here young Bradley [gaaak cough cough] Sorry a Werthers went down the wrong way. Anyway, you seem to be assuming an awful lot. Not all those people are people. Bots generating dubious engagement is not exactly new. And of the people who are people, you’re assuming that they are crotchety old blokes. Speaking as a crotchety old bloke that’s probably true. But it’s a reaction to the mise en scene of social media. I mean imagine picking up a flyer for a covers band and thinking “Might be interesting” and suddenly every time you open the door of the lounge to go to the kitchen, there they are. Playing Run to the Hills on Kazoo, spoons and ukulele. Which is what the algorithms do when planting stuff in feeds. It’s about realising that all this [gestures pointlessly at social media] isn’t real. Which means not taking it seriously as consumers. I don’t go around posting comments about Porphyria and their Tending Goats tune (or whatever, floppy hair, tattoos, earnest i’m hazy on the details) Best thing since sliced bread if your musical experience has avoided the same influences that they, ironically, actually have. If not then, um, well not. Or saying Nightwish is entry level prog. The prog Woolworths would sell. The band don’t care. Fans do. It’s like you;re caling their whole self into question. So I don’t say, I scroll past. Not worth pointing out that as far as “symphonic” goes, Ernie the fastest milkman in the west technically qualifies. What was my point ? I think if the audience at venues were miked up, social media comments would seem like a spa day. On the dark side it’s always the negative stuff which produces engagement. Which is sad. And why notoroious Space Karen Elon Musk bought tw@er looking for the one thing a billionaire can never have. Enough. Pesky kids, with your hair and your trousers and your pronouns...........
I stopped gigging late 2019 after leaving my last band and to be honest, I really haven't missed it. The playing part, of course is fun, but I always found gigs super stressful. I have social anxiety, so being around so many people all at the same time was really draining.
Since then, I've been trying to build my guitar channel and found it so much more rewarding and convenient. Nothing will ever substitute playing to a live crowd, but I'm perfectly happy to be doing what I'm doing now.
It's awesome to be able to still make a career out of my playing without the need to tour.
I feel kinda the same, dude, i consider myself a very sociable person and love going to gigs and drinking beers with the boys and girls that always come to the local shows, but i try to play as few shows as possible because theres always the stress of having sound issues, playing unrehearsed, getting robbed in the backstage, etc and that stress kill the passion of playing live. Few shows a year in a small club its what i look for nowadays
Also, good luck with your guitar channel 🤘
I was shocked when I saw some facebook page posting your idea for Lux Eterna solo and people in the comment section were furious - "how dare this pesky youtuber try to CORRECT Metallica!!!!11111one"
What absurdity is this "ever-increasing divide between modern music fans and traditional music fans" ? I seriously doubt that's even a thing.I'm 45,been listening to rock and metal for over 30 years and nothing makes me happier than seeing the scene staying alive and thriving.It's comforting to see the new generation embracing the classic bands while being brave enough to explore new directions and experiment.And I do believe that live shows play an integral part in the smooth and seamless continuation of the genre's history. No "online concert" could ever possibly substitute the experience of the real thing.And that goes both ways. And Bradley,relax.Nobody hates you.
Most traditional musicians that actually cares about music are transitioning to the internet because its a bigger venue to show your music and to learn and teach, just look at Rick Beato, he's an acomplished producer but his internet courses and videos are what pays his bills.
Also remember, Modern Black Metal was born on someones bedroom.
While I agree with most of your points I couldn't possibly disagree more with the ''tradition bad'' argument, rock is and always will be what these great bands from the past made it out to be and new garbage like Polyphia and such should never be considered rock. Hail traditions and the old may they never change.
I think that most negative comments come from guitarists, 99.99% of the time. I love the music community, but guitars are the most profitable and marketable instrument in the world. Therefore, it has a much larger reach to everyone. Then said guitarists, of varying experience and background, safe guard what they deem as a „successful“ guitarist, but do not know what it‘s like to be a successful musician. And us guitarists who only know guitar playing, and not music, are more of the people who will shout „play with feel“, or „sweep picking is boring“ kind of jargon
It's honestly so easy to hate on things. Unfortunately, like you said. Metal and Rock are steeped in tradition and have the most toxic and gatekeeper communites. I know that's not always the case. I admit I used to be that way, but I can't, or could never do what any of these guys do, and I learned to respect and appreciate it because what you guys do does take time and energy.
9:23 I don't know such artist, only Buckethead is epic and skilled enough to record tons of album per year, but many Buckethead fans thinks he's a robot hahah. Really there's a lot of master level guitarists, but only Buckethead recorded over 400 albums and he's still recording. In Buckethead We trust! \m/ \m/
You can never be perfect, so always be willing to listen to constructive, valuable criticism.
However, shitting on someone via a holier-than-thou basis and making fun of their circumstances is one of the most childish things you can do.
Like Bradlington Hallsworth has mentioned before, the music industry was way better back in the day and the surging boost in the music industry in the 50s all the way through the 2000s is sadly long gone.
There can’t be another Metallica, another Megadeth, Beatles, Led Zepplin, Van Halen, etc. not for the near future, anyways.
As the wise Jordan Peterson said, “there’s nothing uglier than an adult infant.”
I don't think that tradition plays into this. You look at internet classical guitarists (who are way more anally rigid with tradition, BTW), and their comments section are always overwhelmingly positive. Jazz, Hip Hop, Country, Blues, and Pop/Indie usually follow this trend too. Not so much for rock and metal, though.
After three decades being a more "traditional" rock and metal musician, I've noticed that a good number of fans of this genre tend to have a major disdain for people who attain any degree of success and popularity that propels them from small niche communities into a larger market. And these people are extremely vocal about their opposition to it; driven by some incessant need to criticize, condemn, and ridicule whatever is a threat to their own fragile egos.
So, next time you see any sort of vitriolic commentary from the peanut gallery, just understand that it's usually someone with a small dick who wants to tell the world about it, and you're actually pretty good at whatever you are doing. Keep it up, my man! It makes these losers cry.
Every negative comment usually equates to "Technology bad! Old ways good! People who play better than me bad!"... Get over yourselves. 😂
Finn McKenty is the reason I started taking music seriously again. RUclips is the counterculture to the Taylor Swifts and Kanye Wests of the world. Anthony Vincent said it best: "Fuck you. I'm a rock star, too."
The thing is the double moral. Metal Music is described as the most tolerant and chill community. Music that is helping through rough times. IF you aren't a RUclipsr Guitarist/Instrumentalist and or female. If your are both. Good night! 😜 Then you are GETTING rough times by the trve elitists haha.
Personally, I have no problem with a dude choosing to make RUclips content over touring with a band. While there are RUclips personalities I dislike, it's not because they're not touring. The personalities I dislike come off as smug turds, but that's not confined to musicians. Hell, there are touring musicians I dislike because they come off as smug turds too. Yingwee, anyone?
Sigh. Another rant, another finger wag at "old people" . Interesting that your selection of negative comments don't appear to be coming from "traditionalists".
The difference is, up to about 15 years ago, it wasn't possible to showcase your abilities in this way. As an old man and liver of hard rock and Metal, content creators have done 2 things extremely well - 1) shown me that anyone can be a musical God, surpassing many of the heroes I had as a youngster, and 2) entertained me enormously.
I, and I'm sure many old folk, love you and a great many creators. Please don't lump is all together of falsely paint us as stuck in the mud old dinosaurs.
There are two types of musicians in the world. Musicians who are grateful and believe that music is above them. And musicians who are senseless and believe that music is beneath them. And I completely hate the latter, no matter the genre. But if we're talking about actual art. An audience is quite literally the greatest enemy. And like one of my favorite authors said, "True art is only corrupted by an audience; only stifled by a lapse of fond good faith." And another quote by another favorite author: "Popular opinion is merely a prostitute who sells herself to the highest bidder." I look at art as perhaps humanity's greatest tradition (and it's living proof that love for life and humanity can travel across space an time). As long as we're looking at it as an enterprise of gratitude and addition, rather than, a tiny and selfish winner-take-all scenario.
Personally, I find it to be awesome that musicians can finally make some money. And it's great that it's an avenue to spread music throughout the world, like never before. And it's entertaining. But with fame comes a price. And many of these musicians lose sight of themselves and art, and become, much of the time, transformed into a caricature. While consequently, turning art into some greedy and senseless money grubbing scheme that denigrates the art form itself. Turning it into some farcical and absurd vehicle for bloated and senseless egos. But this has always happened.
There are two types of artists in this world: artists who courageously expand art forms. And those who selfishly shrink it. And this has always been the case. And honestly, I quite enjoy ripping some bloated egos apart from time to time online. And though I do respect the studio musicianship (anyone can sound good in a studio) of a band like Polyphia (they're actually quite talented); someone please tell them that their taste in music and guitars f*****g sucks. But of course, they're lost in their own fame and have absolutely no idea what they're doing, or where they're going.
So how does an artist want to be remembered? As an andy warhol or like the beatles; shameless products of theft, while inventing pop art? Or should you be like Mozart? Where ninety percent of the music he created was found after he had died a poor man, before copyright laws, because he loved music more than any of us? Or like Shakespeare, a man who was never even published in his lifetime, perhaps the most powerful poet, while basically inventing the modern human being? Or like Van Gogh, a transcendent genius who had only sold one painting in his lifetime?
Those are the real questions. But the truth is that most people don't have a large enough heart to want to spread their love for art beyond their own lifetimes. Let alone, beyond a few weeks worth of videos. And that's really just fine. As long as great art never dies. And as long as, at least the important people believe, that art is about bringing humanity together; instead of being used as a selfish tool to prop up one fragile ego, for something as low and cheap as fame and money. There can be great nuance to these conversations. But most of the time, in my experience at least, the haters are tiny jealous helpless losers.
And splitting the profits with your other 3 or 4 band (mates)members. And Song writing credits. I rather keep my song writing credit to myself.
The only thing I would need help with is producing. So a producer's credit?
I don't think they are, not really, certainly not by musicians of any spec. My kid, who is a balls out savage on guitar, thinks very highly of many RUclips guitar players. There are some he doesn't dig as much, of course. Everyone has tastes that differ somewhat, after all. But that being said, EVERYONE hates on someone, and guitarists and musicians are no different. My boy can't stand Kirk Hammet. I don't dig the arsewits in Five Finger Dork Prick, and the fact that Dave Grohl stopped playing drums as his full time job to pursue a career playing bouncy pop rock REALLY aggravates me on a fundamental level. Don't get me wrong, I think Dave is a great guy, he's just a better drummer than guitarist, and I don't want to hear a musician do the thing they are less good at in a professional setting.
What MIGHT make it appear as if RUclips guitarists get more shit, is frustrated, shitty guitarists, in really shitty bands, or worse, dudes who've never played a note of music in their life but been scene kids for most of their sentient lives, getting shitty with dudes who have a platform, while they either choke and fail at their shitty pub gigs, fail to get said gigs, or sit in their mothers basement hating themselves for being too lazy to practice and get that recognition. Theres a lot of people out there dissatisfied with their own lives, seeking to make their bitchassness someone elses problem, and if those people happen to be in a crap band, or never had the bottle to perform live, and see someone else making a go of their life in music, it would be pretty easy for mean, damaged people like that to lash out and use the specific method a Tuber uses to get their music out there, as a tool to beat them over the head with. Its really not about the RUclipsrs, its about the fucknuggets doing the hating and the shitty reasons they have for hating in the first place.
Of course, some people deserve all the shit they get, but not everyone is Machine Gun Kelly🤣
It just shows the ignorance from these Mainstream pundits…. I get so much enjoyment watching talented guitarist on RUclips in the comfort in my home rewriting Kirk Hammet’s shit solos.😆 👍🏻
Those Metallica fanboys really do hate the fact that Hammet gets outplayed by "youtube beard guitarist".
People gonna people. I hope these kinds of comments don't get to you too much, focus on the positives, bro. You're doing great!
I'm not sure but I think that strong negativity might come from a place of pure passion. I dont know if the "unrelenting ignorance towards this form of entertainment" is really that or if it is more the dislike of things that have only entertainment value. Just to talk about myself. To me, music is much more than entertainment; while entertainment sometimes help letting me forget how shitty reality is most of the time, music is what let me survive all that shit. So while I can enjoy and appreciate pure entertainment from time to time, most of the time I just kill my time with it because I don't have the energy to do something productive with my time instead. Which is why I love seeing Bernth create new and original music but for the love of god can't understand why someone would spend their time watching Nik Nocturnal reactions. This said, of course there's place for both and hating on people that at least are doing something productive (instead of just passively watching like do) is completely asinine. The one thing I have to say is that I'm very traditional when it comes to my approach to music. And yes, if following the modern approach means that musicians don't create their own music for me to buy and listen to, I'd rather support those musicians that still do like the old guys. If you can combine both sides (Matt Heafy or Herman Li are good examples of that), that's awesome. But if you're just doing derivative stuff (which is what most "content creators" do and also the reason why I don't really like that term), you just don't do anything that is valuable enough for me to actually spend money on it.
Pro strat: write music, don't play it live, and also don't develop your social media presence. Just bask in the process and find fulfillment in the art itself. Assume that you'll become posthumously famous one day.
It’s like Newton’s fourth law that if you get big on the internet, you WILL get haters. You could post a video of you ending homelessness and curing cancer and you’d still have hate comments lmao.
I came of age, guitar wise, in Montana in the 1990s. There were clubs where people played rock and pop every night. I decided to start a blues band... We did very well! We toured a bit in the NW US and the band held together for a couple of years until I discovered jazz and the saxophone.
Now there is no live music in the town where I grew up. I now live in Philadelphia and the music scene here is no better than it was in Montana in the 1990s. I don't know how live bands make it now. I was talking with a guitarist who grew up in Philadelphia and played in a a rock band for his full time job (!) in the 70s and 80s. He said that there were more clubs than bands in New Jersey and work was plentiful. Those times are dead and gone. I blame the demise of live music on record companies, people who listen to bad music, and the internet, but not on guitarists and other musicians who are able to eke out a living on the internet.
That said, it is very different playing in a live situation vs making a perfect video and presenting it. Making a video is like making an album, you can have near ideal conditions and do takes until you get it right. Playing live, you get one shot and the conditions are rarely ideal and often terrible.
Playing live music is tough.
The bass player, always the bass player, will be late to the gig.
The drummer will be a curmudgeon, regardless of age.
Most of the band will be drunk by the second set.
If you have a sound person, they will do the bare minimum for you at the maximum cost.
The club owners will steal from you. They will tell you that they didn't do well that night, even if their bar is full of people who are very drunk and drinking.
You will break a string in the middle of a song.
Your amp will die.
Your pedals won't work.
You'll play to an empty house sometimes.
The problem with youtube guitarists is they usually start off with good content but after a while run out of ideas but keep making videos so the algorithm doesnt forget them, and the videos become dumber and dumber. For example two well known youtube guitarists doing things like playing guitar in an empty nuclear reactor, or filling acoustic guitars with water. Not to mention the clickbaity titles and thumbnails are annoying.
Things tend to go from bad to worse when they start relying on their videos for income. At that point they just have to keep churning out less and less interesting videos, eventually just feeling insulting to their audience's intelligence.
i dunno man....they don't seem more "hated" than any other "pro" guitar player. look at views. people are clearly enjoying them. if you're going by comment sections, then every guitar player on every album ever recorded is hated.
If you are a touring musician on a label, you're a slave to that label. I don't go to shows once I found that out. Just like I don't shop at Walmart because I don't work there. Simple huh. Don't feed a beast because you're not the only one that suffers.
I think there's a bit of dancing around reality here. It's not that RUclips guitarists are hated. It's just that their content is far more disposable.
The unfortunate rub for RUclips content creators is that your work typically has a lifespan of interest of one view per person, then interest in that piece of content expires. At best, a fan might watch a video a 10 times before their interest expires, and then the video is forgotten. This is true even for Mr Beast.
But if you're in a band and releasing music, each favoured song will potentially be listened to hundreds or thousands of times, and potentially over the course of an entire lifetime. And then on the back of this, you've built interest to go see shows with other fans if the band comes to town, build bonds with a shared common interest, buy merch, try learn their songs, cover their songs in your own band, etc, etc.
"Rock... steeped in tradition and incredibly reluctant to any kind of progress" Remember when rock was sticking it to the man?
I'll tell a harsh truth for you: your video on Kirk Hammett solo is the another reason of this video is about. I'm sorry (I actually like your solo btw even if it doesn't fit). You should use a better title on that video. That video has one of the most negative comments from your RUclips videos.
Or in the case of Stevie T is the part where he constantly punches down and makes fun of disabled people... while promoting porn to kids. Other than that, this guy is a good guitarist.
Because they never had to overpay for a fucking tab/sheet music book with incorrect notation or they don’t understand the meaning of DIY.
I mean…guitar RUclipsrs are pretty much uniformly annoying as fuck.
Because guitarists are their own worst enemies :P When they can't play a thing they think the other player is superior, when they learn it the other guitarist is trash. Wish they could live in the real world where guitarists are just different people and a hierarchy doesn't need to exist in the world of art :P People especially hate popular guitarists (also RUclipsrs) because most of the time, being charistmatic or entertaining is also a part of it.
Not me watching this after getting a comment saying “take lessons plz” I cant even have fun with my little videos sometimes it feels like😂
Performing nights and weekend gigs is not something I'd ever want to do again. If I went back to performing and had to choose one over the other, I'd choose to be a RUclipsr over being in a band again, hands down. Sorry, boomers.
i mean is pretty easy to know why viewers doesn't really like players like you , you all act like you have the absolute truth and that you can do better music than guitar players that has been in the bussiness selling millions and millions ofs albums when people put their ego in the table like that you just get dissaproval from most of the viewers when all it takes is a different way to show perspectives of the subjets that you're talking about , thats why most of musicians channel doesnt grow u as they should or get the viewers unless their video randomly blows up because the algorythm
The ironic thing is the people who criticize internet musicians don't even play guitar (or whatever instrument it may be) because if they did, they'd actually respect internet musicians abilities as well as their choice to make content since trying to make it as a band in the modern scene is basically impossible.